Topic: ANTMINER S2 Discussion and Support Thread - page 111. (Read 355842 times)

Thank Juan- i knew something is not right with them. 10 days website is up and they already have 60 units in stock or gone.
I like when people calling them self names but them names means nothing.

Just to say minerstore.com / Your Miner Store IS NOT an authorized reseller or Bitmain Tech Ltd.

Dammit edgar you made me unignore him to see what you were replying to! Regretted it almost immediately tho

I dont trying twist anything around.
Burning test for 24h? Do you really believe in any of this crap coming from you?
Just because you have fancy logo and accepting cards does not mean you right and i'm wrong.
Keep your examples to someone who actually will believe and are stupid more than anyone else.

Pallet a day(60 units) huh? Why i newer heard about you before?For some reason you hijacked this thread with your own stuff and trying explain me  what?

Sample testing, burning testing etc....all means you using miners end of story. Call this how ever you want its still mining.

When you testing units, what testing pool you using? How do you know they working?

I noticed that any who calling himself legit, reseller and other nice fancy words are always getting angry and upset when some one challenge them.
You saying units are brand spanking new BUT they are tested by bitmain for 24h(which is BS) and you as well.

I suggest you keep all this fancy info for someone who just starting because i dont believe that from let say april 23/04/14 you have sold any of units from that pallet  without notice to this community..

To back up this last sentence here is proof:

Domain Name: MINERSTORE.COM
Registry Domain ID:  
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Registrar URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/
Updated Date: 2014-04-25T00:00:00Z
Creation Date: 2014-04-23T00:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-08-08T00:00:00Z

Here is direct link: http://whois.domaintools.com/minerstore.com

This is second check on different site:


So it seems you in the business no more than 10 days and already  with you minerstore you sold pallet a day? When this happened? How its possible S1 was out of stock for few moments and you have 60 units in hand?

If any of it is not true or i made mistake and misread any of your info in your post im sorry but nothing sticks together...

Please start your own thread, dont make bold statements about unused S1 , burning tests , how many units you have in stock etc here as this will be picked up easily by people like me and will be exposed as BS.

Can you provide Tx or anything (wallet, hash)to prove using blockchain you purchased 60 units from bitmain?

I don't want to jinx anything, but my batch 2 S2 has been hashing flawlessly since I got it out of the box.  The only trouble I had was because I was a nobbin and assigned it the same IP address as a PC on my network.  Once I figured that out, everything was fine.  It's true that other S2 owners have had some nightmare shipping damage... I guess I was lucky, however my unit had the foam on the case top, which probably helped keep the cards seated.  I haven't done anything to it, it's running 1TH/s with the stock PSU, stock settings.  All I did was put in my pool details.

I wish mine had the "hole in the side for the PSU" improvement, but it's working fine nonetheless.  It is good to see that Bitmain are making improvements for each batch.  Looking forward to hear success stores for batch 4, hopefully a lot less shipping damage (ideally none).

I really like my S2, it's my favourite miner right now. 

I waited around 20 minutes to see if it would reset, but it didn't. I'm pretty sure the problem was a loose power cable inside.


Sigh. I guess I'll just use one of my own PSUs. Pretty annoying since its not like the ROI on this thing is so great, but I guess I get to keep the PSU at the end. Right at 3 years of mining (multiple rigs) on my oldest AX1200...

Alright that was an adventure. Looks like some of the cables had gotten loose, including one of the backplane power cables. Fixed all the cables and got BSOD. Found an SD card I had around, flashed it, and then realized I need a microSD card. Oops. Look around some more and find a microSD card, flash that and it boots. I had removed two ASIC boards to make it easier to access the controller. Shutdown linux, pop the SD, power down, put the SD back, put the boards back in, and now it won't boot!

Pull one ASIC board and it boots fine. Looks like I need to upgrade the PSU to get it to run with 10 boards. Has anyone gotten any love from Bitmain on this issue, or do I just have to junk their PSU and use my own?

Sorry if I offended you, and I'm happy your miner came in perfect condition (except for 1 defective board)

Actually I only call idiots, idiots, if you have something intellligent to say that makes sense, I am all ears and will treat you with respect. But if you are going to attack me I am not going to sit back and take it.

Oh I suck? oh please dont hurt my feelings, maybe you enjoy overpaying for broken devices, but I surely dont, and if you consider that to mean I suck, then you are truly the sucker here.

And try harder? whats that? try harder not to suck? maybe you can teach me, since you are so gung ho about bitmain and his "sucky" S2.

I shouldnt need to try at anything hard or soft or anywhere in between, I am the paying customer, bitmain is the one who needs to "try harder".

I'm just giving my point of view on the shit I recieved in the mail thats all....there shouldnt have to be anything to try harder at...that was a weird comment. Unless you mean try harder not to tell the truth and lie and say all is fine and dandy with these miners, maybe for bitmain it is, but not for a majority of the "try harder suckers" on here as you call them.

She's dead Jim.

I had one card throwing X's so I decided to crack open the case and take a look. I had to drill out one fo the screws and bumped the power cord out. (I was planning to leave it on in case I didn't see anything wrong inside and avoid possible reboot SD problems.) Okay, finished opening it, checked the boards. A few needed to be reseated, although I guess it most of them still had some kind of connection because only on board had X's before I opened it up (was hashing around 900). Plug back in and nothing. No fan, no blue screen, just cold and dead. Flip the power switch a few times, unplug and plug a few times. Still dead.

I guess I'll try swapping the PSU?

if you have 1200W try overclocking - you can proabbly get another 50-100GH without any cooling modifications

My batch two S2 started frequently powering off a couple of days ago. I replaced the crap Enermax with a Corsair AX1200i that I had running 3 Singles. So far it's been running great. I also got my FrankenJup up to 2.8THs with a little extra work. I'm now enjoying a cocktail in the hot tub. It's been a good day for a change. 

Hi again,

      I really don't have the time to explain how a legit company runs, but I will entertain your last few questions and possibly shed more insight on how we do business. To start off, I do apologize if I misunderstand what you are writing. I am finding it hard to understand a few things you have written. None the less, I think I get the general idea you are trying to portray.

      First off, I see that you are trying to twist the meaning of our words. Yes, technically the miners are not "untouched". Any person with a brain should know that any electronics that get manufactured, whether it be a microwave, tv or Antminer, has to go through a series of tests to ensure functionality and etc. Yes, bitmain typically does a 24 hour burn in test on all miners we get. That is typical for any PCB/electronics board manufacture. It weeds our poorly manufactured products from the good ones. This is one way for us to know that miners we sell with work on arrival. Second, we only get palatalized shipments. I have worked years in the shipping industry, and personally can guarantee that shipments on pallets have lower chances of getting damaged then single boxed units. Hence, we trust our shipper. Third, we are not stupid. We obviously have our own mining operation, and any miners that have a damaged box will go into our own mining operation, just in case they are DOA. Its called sample testing (take a few from a batch, test, if test is passed, batch is considered good). Lastly, we rarely have miners just sitting around in boxes ready to ship, hence we are not stupid. This is because we receive a pallet or two per day, and by the end of the day, the miners on the pallets are sold. I would call this, good logistical planning.

Now, for one main point on why we are not dumb enough to user the miners and then sell them (I will give you the short version). We are not Bitmain, we do not have the ability to pay whatever we want per miner. We don't build them, they do and they charge us for ever miner. If you haven't noticed, the Antminers typically drop in price everyday. Some days are stable, some are not. If we used miners and then sold them, it would net us a loss.

Example!- Lets say we have 60 units in stock today and we decide to use them to mine. Great, we would net $300 in BTC. However, lets say bitcoins price drops $10 tomorrow. Bitmain may then also choose to lower their price to 0.5 BTC. If you calculate, that means our hardware would lose $1800 in value over 24 hours. But hey, we made $300 in BTC. You may ask then why we don't just mine them for a month? Here is another interesting fact that may blow your mind. If we pull in one pallet a day (60 units), and we sell 1 pallet a day (60 units), then over one months time, we would have sold 1800 units, and brought in 1800 units. In order to mine units for one month and then sell them, we would have to have 1800 units on hand, mining away. I am not sure if that is a lot to you, but it is a TON to us. Who has that kind of space, electricity, cooling and all??? In the end, instead of just doing whatever the heck sounds good, we choose to actually think it through, pull the numbers and plan things out. This is where our statement of "bad for business" comes into play.

In the end, do your research before accusing.

As for what is in stock, like stated above, we typically have around 60 units rolling in and rolling out.

My miner came in perfect condition - not a scratch. You're exploding all over the place and all I asked was how to change the password. My miner still hashes. 1 of 10 boards was defective and I had to exchange 3 emails in total to get RMA.

TIP: Try not being angry at customer service because that won't get you anywhere soon. Judging by how you are posting, this is probably how you are emailing too. In the end, they hold the key and if you need support, ask nicely.

You, my friend, are an idiot

What in the hell are you even talking about...is english your first language, cause if not , I woud totally understand and let this slide, but it's too much for me not to reply, I cant resist....sorry.

Obviously if you can read, then you havent read anythig I've posted. GAW sells whatever they want , that is none of my business. What they do have to do with "anything" as you so politley say, is that you are accusing me of working for them or gridseed actually , which makes me think you need to cut down on your LSD intake pefore posting here.

By me sucking on someones "nutsack" as you so eliquently put it, I do not suck nutsacks, I am not that desperate..yet

The point of my post was simply to let your idiotic brain try and understand between acid flashes, that I do not work for any mining company selling any sort of gear, but instead, I praise the ones that do right by their customers, and will bash the ones that dont especially if I am a customer of each.

Plain and simple...nuff said, try and comprehend that beetween your next bong hit

But make sure your mom doesnt hear you in the basement from upstairs, and give you a time out.

@Minerstore

Thanks for clarification.

But first:


^^^So in other words you not checking against DOA,miners was newer out of the box?How this would be bad for business? You making money when gear is waiting in warehouse to be sold. In other words you have open safe full of money but you not touching it because it wouldn't be right?

Unfortunately you not selling brand new untouched items as all miners was used by bitmain and i will not believe in that you have miners in your hands which was after production packed in boxes and was waiting to be delivered to you.

Second:



Do you really think anyone will believe in that? Bitmain is doing this all the time-miners overclocked delivered, dusted, heatsinks broken.
Please explain to me how its possible you have S1 different than me or anyone else who ordering from them directly?How miner which is bought and used and will brake cannot be a subject to warranty-because that's what i see in your post.

And to your last sentence: All asics companys doing same stuff-they mining with gear until they die and become nearly obsolete and then they selling to make profit again to people like us.

BTCtalk is not ebay, most people here are smart and not stupid good luck in finding one who will go for your prices and your golden rules. Maybe someone will believe you not using gear to mine for yourselve.

Just curious: how many S1 have you got in stock?
 

Sorry we missed your comment. We are working to accept discounts on the S2 units for a limited time. In the mean time, you are correct, it would be less expensive to purchase direct from bitmain.

@s1lverbox

Hi there,

    We are prohibited to use miners that are for resell. That would be bad for business, not to mention unethical. We only sell 100% brand new miners, untouched.

Additionally, if we sold used equipment, you would not get a full 90 day warranty with bitmain unlike certain companies that sell used miners as new, (won't mention names).

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    As to your second statement, unfortunately according to Colorado law, and the rules set by our credit card processor, we can't "publicly" discriminate the sale price between payment options.

Example - If we charge you less for paying with bitcoin, verses charging you more for using a credit card, then we would loose our card processing and open ourselves
up for a lawsuit.

There is a little loophole to this whole fiasco, and that would be to give a discount to customers who use bitcoin or cash. We are currently working on adding that to our website.

Either way, you don't have to like the our fair prices, or what we offer. Continue using your current channels. We started Miner Store for people who want to buy miners with credit/debit card, or people who want working miners now, not later.

So you not mining with gear which is in your hands?

If payment in BTC you not subject to 5% credit card charge.
Prices way to high.

Difficult for me to believe in that.

We have adjusted are prices. Thanks for the feedback and we can get you business.

Thanks