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I got Satoshi's avatar!
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完全去处中心化,没有发行机构,也就不可能操纵发行数量。其发行与流通,是通过开源的p2p算法实现。
匿名、免税、免监管。
健壮性。比特币完全依赖p2p网络,无发行中心,所以外部无法关闭它。比特币价格可能波动、崩盘,多国政府可能宣布它非法,但比特币和比特币庞大的p2p网络不会消失。
无国界、跨境。跨国汇款,会经过层层外汇管制机构,而且交易记录会被多方记录在案。但如果用比特币交易,直接输入数字地址,点一下鼠标,等待p2p网络确认交易后,大量资金就过去了。不经过任何管控机构,也不会留下任何跨境交易记录。
山寨者难于生存。由于比特币算法是完全开源的,谁都可以下载到源码,修改些参数,重新编译下,就能创造一种新的p2p货币。但这些山寨货币很脆弱,极易遭到51%攻击。任何个人或组织,只要控制一种p2p货币网络51%的运算能力,就可以随意操纵交易、币值,这会对p2p货币构成毁灭性打击。很多山寨币,就是死在了这一环节上。而比特币网络已经足够健壮,想要控制比特币网络51%的运算力,所需要的cpu/gpu数量将是一个天文数字。
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Completely centralized place , no issuer , it is impossible to manipulate the issue number . Its issuance and circulation through open source p2p algorithm.
Anonymous , duty-free regulation.
Robustness. Bitcoin is entirely dependent on p2p networks, no distribution center , so the outside can not turn it off. Bitcoin prices may fluctuate , crash , many governments may declare it illegal , but the huge Bitcoin and Bitcoin p2p networks will not disappear.
Without borders, cross-border . Transnational remittances, foreign exchange will go through layers of regulatory bodies, and the transaction will be multi- documented. But if Bitcoin transactions , direct input numeric address , click, wait p2p network to confirm transactions , a lot of money over. Without any control mechanism , it will not leave any cross-border transactions.
Cottage were difficult to survive. Since Bitcoin algorithm is completely open source , anyone can download the source code, modify these parameters , recompiling , we can create a new p2p currency. But these cottage currency is very fragile and vulnerable to the attack was 51% . Any individual or organization , as long as the control one kind of currency p2p network 51% of computing power , you can freely manipulate the transaction currency , which would constitute a devastating blow p2p currency . Many cottage coins that died on this link . The Bitcoin network has been robust enough bitcoin network wants to control 51% of the computing power , the number of cpu / gpu need to be an astronomical figure.
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完全去处中心化,没有发行机构,也就不可能操纵发行数量。其发行与流通,是通过开源的p2p算法实现。
匿名、免税、免监管。
健壮性。比特币完全依赖p2p网络,无发行中心,所以外部无法关闭它。比特币价格可能波动、崩盘,多国政府可能宣布它非法,但比特币和比特币庞大的p2p网络不会消失。
无国界、跨境。跨国汇款,会经过层层外汇管制机构,而且交易记录会被多方记录在案。但如果用比特币交易,直接输入数字地址,点一下鼠标,等待p2p网络确认交易后,大量资金就过去了。不经过任何管控机构,也不会留下任何跨境交易记录。
山寨者难于生存。由于比特币算法是完全开源的,谁都可以下载到源码,修改些参数,重新编译下,就能创造一种新的p2p货币。但这些山寨货币很脆弱,极易遭到51%攻击。任何个人或组织,只要控制一种p2p货币网络51%的运算能力,就可以随意操纵交易、币值,这会对p2p货币构成毁灭性打击。很多山寨币,就是死在了这一环节上。而比特币网络已经足够健壮,想要控制比特币网络51%的运算力,所需要的cpu/gpu数量将是一个天文数字。

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Are you sure about that?
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完全去处中心化,没有发行机构,也就不可能操纵发行数量。其发行与流通,是通过开源的p2p算法实现。
匿名、免税、免监管。
健壮性。比特币完全依赖p2p网络,无发行中心,所以外部无法关闭它。比特币价格可能波动、崩盘,多国政府可能宣布它非法,但比特币和比特币庞大的p2p网络不会消失。
无国界、跨境。跨国汇款,会经过层层外汇管制机构,而且交易记录会被多方记录在案。但如果用比特币交易,直接输入数字地址,点一下鼠标,等待p2p网络确认交易后,大量资金就过去了。不经过任何管控机构,也不会留下任何跨境交易记录。
山寨者难于生存。由于比特币算法是完全开源的,谁都可以下载到源码,修改些参数,重新编译下,就能创造一种新的p2p货币。但这些山寨货币很脆弱,极易遭到51%攻击。任何个人或组织,只要控制一种p2p货币网络51%的运算能力,就可以随意操纵交易、币值,这会对p2p货币构成毁灭性打击。很多山寨币,就是死在了这一环节上。而比特币网络已经足够健壮,想要控制比特币网络51%的运算力,所需要的cpu/gpu数量将是一个天文数字。
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i have a problem with all of my antminer s2.

it keeps turning off after 15-30min hashing, then it need to be unplug for 5 min before it can be turn on again. anyone having the same problem?
perhaps firmware issue or other known issue ??

btw, how to control the fan?

Check the gauge of your power cord? Use a heavy duty.  This fixed the very same problem for me.
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i have a problem with all of my antminer s2.

it keeps turning off after 15-30min hashing, then it need to be unplug for 5 min before it can be turn on again. anyone having the same problem?
perhaps firmware issue or other known issue ??

btw, how to control the fan?


PSU it is!

Sounds like it. Quick test and sort-of fix is to pull one board.

Put it in the coolest place and on floor if possible.
Just a few degrees may allow it to run for now.
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Here is the delivery guy for S2s.



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i have a problem with all of my antminer s2.

it keeps turning off after 15-30min hashing, then it need to be unplug for 5 min before it can be turn on again. anyone having the same problem?
perhaps firmware issue or other known issue ??

btw, how to control the fan?


PSU it is!

Sounds like it. Quick test and sort-of fix is to pull one board.
hero member
Activity: 728
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i have a problem with all of my antminer s2.

it keeps turning off after 15-30min hashing, then it need to be unplug for 5 min before it can be turn on again. anyone having the same problem?
perhaps firmware issue or other known issue ??

btw, how to control the fan?


PSU it is!
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i have a problem with all of my antminer s2.

it keeps turning off after 15-30min hashing, then it need to be unplug for 5 min before it can be turn on again. anyone having the same problem?
perhaps firmware issue or other known issue ??

btw, how to control the fan?
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GIF by SOCIFI
We just had an S2 arrive destroyed.
All blades out of slots and in a bunch.
It won't boot.

All BITMAIN needs to do is put foam on both sides of the blade rails and on top of the main card in the middle since it's shorter.

Look at my last posts pictures, it happens exactly the same to me. I think they should simply ship the boards out of the box in a different box than the miner box.
Bitmain has offered me new blades shipping the bad ones back and they have already sent me a new card holder. So at least I got a working miner but it seems that they have been playing football with it. Not good if you plan to sell the miner to a client.
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I cannot understand why they dont fix it somehow.
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Bitmain - we have had a great relationship for the past few months.  Sadly, it looks like it's ending.
You are no longer competitive given the S2's fragility and high price.  There are better options that are built more solidly and don't cost as much.
But I'll keep watching.  Hopefully you come to market with a product as great as the S1's were for their time.

We just had an S2 arrive destroyed.
All blades out of slots and in a bunch.
It won't boot.

All BITMAIN needs to do is put foam on both sides of the blade rails and on top of the main card in the middle since it's shorter.

They could also Pop Rivet two flats to those rails and the sides of the case. So what the case cover sticks up a tiny bit. It's worth the peace of mind.
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Is BTC6.5 bad investment for batch 3?

IMHO yes...not a good investment...

Let's do some math... S1 is 0.831 BTC ...or $410-415 ( @112Bit as well)...

S2 is generally replicated 5 x S1 ...in a rack box ...10 blades vs 2 blades design...900Gh vs 1000Gh

So $410 x 5 = around $2,000 ...add 1 more blade ...around $2,100 ...all other parts, including PSU, case, LED etc are maybe another $100 at cost...$2,200...but they are saving of 4 controllers less...and they are not so cheap...

My guess is that In May we will see price in the $2,000 and a change range...

What do you think...? Am I missing something...?  

S2 is way over priced BUT saves on electricity.
Still overpriced though...
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Bitmain just issued my coupon for a B2 unit - Ive never had issues with thier coupons (other than the seemingly random values and distribution frequency as they sometimes are not rewarded for weeks after a purchase, and othertimes only a day or two after - either way a coupon is a coupon!)

My only beef with Bitmain's coupons is that they expire too quickly (usually within a 3-4 weeks).  Sometimes I just want to sit on the coupons for a bit longer, but can't.

I agree, but think its totally fair that they expire. Imagine using a 0.085BTC coupon at the current price - the sale would be nearly unprofitable for Bitmain at 0.55
You think these things (S1) are expensive to make? ...

Not in China... Grin
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Christian Antkow
Yay for Batch 3 becoming available. Boo for pricing not being competitive with A1 options out there Sad Guess it's more A1's for me for the next little while...
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Computers have parts worth money, even a 4-5 year old amd or intel cpu.  and Motherboard and ram.  Asic machines will be paperweights.

At least good for something.   Undecided

What is intriguing to me is that negative outlooks and feelings of despair among miners, historically, have signaled a renewed upward trend in the price.  Of course, history need not repeat itself.  Just saying...
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Computers have parts worth money, even a 4-5 year old amd or intel cpu.  and Motherboard and ram.  Asic machines will be paperweights.

They're only worth a small fraction of the new value at that point, so this is a small difference.



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Any jump over 2-3% is bad.

Imagine buying a machine for $100.  With a theoretical 15% increase every jump.  In the first 10 days the machine makes you $10, then days 10-20 it makes only $8.40, then days 20-30 it makes $6.70.  So the first 30 days it has made you $25.10.  Based on my experience the first month a miner will make 70% of its lifetime ROI if the btc price stays steady.

If the jumps fall to 2-3% or even lower (which will happen at some point, probably sooner than most assume) then miners will return a lot less than 70% of their lifetime output in the first month. Eventually they will be more like regular computers with a ~3 year industrial lifespan.


Computers have parts worth money, even a 4-5 year old amd or intel cpu.  and Motherboard and ram.  Asic machines will be paperweights.
legendary
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Any jump over 2-3% is bad.

Imagine buying a machine for $100.  With a theoretical 15% increase every jump.  In the first 10 days the machine makes you $10, then days 10-20 it makes only $8.40, then days 20-30 it makes $6.70.  So the first 30 days it has made you $25.10.  Based on my experience the first month a miner will make 70% of its lifetime ROI if the btc price stays steady.

If the jumps fall to 2-3% or even lower (which will happen at some point, probably sooner than most assume) then miners will return a lot less than 70% of their lifetime output in the first month. Eventually they will be more like regular computers with a ~3 year industrial lifespan.
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