Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 273. (Read 451048 times)

Those bulk lots are often sold on behalf of customers, it doesn't mean they are owned by Bitmain.

You don't have to buy at any price or at all. If you don't like the offer, you're more than free to not accept it.

Turning individual chips off is not a software or firmware based function, it requires expensive on PCB hardware to enable that.

If you're moving them to Switzerland just to host, why wouldn't you just host in CN or buy cloud mining (HashNest etc)?

That was coming from a SpondooliesTech group buy organiser, of course he's going to accuse Bitmain of XYZ....

"omg miners are untested"
"omg hashrate went up, its definitely bitmain"
"omg why are you testing miners"

 

Just ignore him. He's angry at Bitmain because an admin deleted some of his posts.

Its not in the best interests of the customer. I ran the numbers and you can fit about 200 S1s into a fully laden LD3, which is ~800-900kg. Its highly unlikely that any country will have 200 of anything going to it on the same day, so customer orders would then have to be held. Once it arrived in the destination country, it would then have to be delivered to another national warehouse, where its emptied and individual boxes are relabelled, and then reshipped. The turnaround would take 1.5-2.5 days depending on courier pickups, for the boxes to re-enter the courier network. Then, Bitmain has to pay to have them shipped a second time.

So you've said $2 per S5 for 1/3 of the way round the world.
Fixing your size estimations to actually make them fit, it becomes $6 per unit.
Fixing your destination so they actually arrive in the right country becomes $10 per unit.
Fixing your speed of delivery to match UPS becomes $20 per unit.
Having units delivered to a national warehouse, handled and relabelled becomes $26 per unit.
Then handing each unit back to an air courier once in the destination country (for the US) or by express land) becomes $40-55 per unit.
This all assumes you've got 100% occupancy and on every single day or near enough you can fill an LD3 per country.

Meanwhile, you just increased the time of delivery to the customer by 4-7 days.

I wonder, did you even read the original post ...? You missed the bit about the S1 to S5 kit.
So, in time honoured fashion, would you care to retrospectively apply your wisom on the worth / viability of that? Again, do not say it if you have nothing to say.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-sp20-most-efficient-miner-05wgh-2-units-min-903286

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/roadstresss-sp20-special-holiday-gb

May I know how You got to the price 500 USD with shipping for SP20? I would be interested to buy one if able to reach such price.
Thank You

the s5 is 1.4btc shipped..
i dont think they will have any problems making that back.. the main question is, what will be the value of btc then..

when i got my s3s btc was 500$ now its 330$.. even tho i made almost twice as much btc on my s3s, the value wasnt exactly worth it.

Well, also the btc testnet or even an ad-hoc coin based on sha 256 is enough for testing new asics Clearly all the manufacturers are not following this path cause they are basically mining in the best period of the entire lifespan of these devices.

Whether its 'testing', private deployment or in preparation of cloudmining, clearly bitmain is doing something.
https://blockchain.info/pools
IIRC, antpool used to be in the 5% neighborhood. Now they are up to 15% of the network, 3x KnC and bigger than ghash.io (read: bitfury).

The network also appears to be up by >50PH compared to last week, although its anyone's guess how much of that is paycoin miners returning to bitcoin.

i'm going to counter this with an argument, in favour.
The fact that we see the testing of miners hit network hashrate, is a good thing for me, as it informs me of what to expect, should I be buying miners at any point in time.
It's the same with all manufacturers and you shouldn't just bash BMT for it, the fact is, miners need testing on the live network to ensure the product is sound.
I, for one, don't mind seeing the network rise as new h/w gets tested.

my 0.02BTC

Bitmain is offering for sale 250 unit BULK LOTS of S3's...no word on exactly how many of these 100+Ths LOTS are available.

The fucking joke is on all of us who buy hardware at ludicrous rates that has already become gravy from the vendor.  It has become crystal clear that by the time Bitmain boxes these miners to ship (which they are also profiting from!) they may as well be throwing them away but why do that when there is an entire community of people with raging hardons to overpay for them!

S5's should cost AT MOST $150USD SHIPPED! This at least would give the buyers a *chance* to turn a reasonable profit.  They just simply are not going to hand over machines that are literally printing money when the fools (us) will wait, hat in hand.

Ultimately I believe this could be the fatal blow that kills BTC but Companies like Bitmain will have long cashed out and be driving Ferrari's by then.

I think its a little naive of the community to think that these "new" miners are shipped right off the assembly line.  I would think they've been running them for weeks or possibly months and then offer them for sale as new when there is a modest gain above ROI for the buyer.  I find it funny how new BM miner ship dates just happen to coincide with a diff increase.  Probably not just BM either...it's just a matter of corporate greed in a relatively new market. 

2 x ANTMINER S5 BATCH 2  with shipping in my country is  975 USD

2 x SP20 + free shipping is still 1000 USD
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-sp20-most-efficient-miner-05wgh-2-units-min-903286

But I have to agree with the following commentary:"The best way to make money on SP20 was by waiting."


I bought my first SP20 fof 1350 USD (with shipping)+20%VAT  on September 26, 2014 Shipped  Nov 02
I bought my second SP20 fof 875 USD (with shipping)+20%VAT  on November 11  2014 Shipped Nov 27
I bought some SP20 fof 617 USD (with shipping)+20%VAT  on December 17, 2014 Shipped Dec 21  they are still in Israel, They probably come to me 29.12.2014
Today I get to buy SP20 for 500 USD (with shipping)+20%VAT they are received on 2 January?

Almost every time the price will drop even before, when I get my miners.
I do not like to buy things, the value of which will fall so fast. So I'd better wait.

I'd buy 10 or 20 upgrade kits for the S1 depending on the price.

Were you even one of us that actually got an S1 upgrade kit (before they discontinued it in fairly short time, and are quite unlikely to offer again)? It did not include the enclosure panels OR the second fan, and was only BTC0.12 cheaper than an S3 complete package. Therefore, even if your S3 was only worth $50, it would still quite likely be a better net cost on the S5 purchase than an upgrade kit, going on precedence.

Everything he said was relevant and somewhat accurate, not sure why the retaliation...

I wouldn't mind so much if they went back to free shipping and used mining profits to offset that cost.