Loading up LD3 containers is always cheaper than UPS. I am surprised Bitmain (or other suppliers) don't do this.
By the way, I used to pay over $1,000,000 a year to UPS for shipping, so I know how low they can go. UPS can never ship 100 shipment (with 100 customs clearances - the real hidden cost in all of this) cheaper than 1 air freight shipment with 1 customs clearance (with the same amount of goods as the 100 orders).
Personally, I think BitMain just focuses on other things and hasn't put the energy into making this happen (which is fine if they have more pressing things). However, if you can move weight, air freight then UPS (or whoever) to deliver in country will always be cheaper. I havnt looked into prices lately, but our rate was about $900 for each LD3 moving 1/3 of the way around the globe. This is for 1500 KG, so you are talking about $2.00 to ship a S5 across the world. UPS will not move a S5 any distance for $2.00, let alone across the world.
BitMain - I or someone else can make it happen, look into it!!
Hear that! At last, someone who knows what they are talking about!
What a fantastic x-mas present that is
@dance191 ! You are a breath of fresh air in this stale environment jam-packed with people spouting their ignorance and passing it off as fact. @dogie and such like - EAT THAT!
Problem is the reasons listed a few posts back: it costs a lot of money and time to setup a warehouse in EU which will likely need 4-7 locals to staff it at minimum. Shipping from china is already available to them at a reasonable price and does not include the 12month contract risks and unknowns of a new office in a new country.
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Always disappointing to hear such flimsy arguments ..... all I'll say is, if you do not have anything to say, do not say it.
Yeah, I did this for 10 years so I know how it all works. Often people here say things like it is fact, when they are really just guessing. Earlier, people were arguing with Mr Teal about what a PCI-E cable can do. Little do they know he has his own line of miners he has designed, I think the man knows what he is talking about.
Just like people can't wrap their head around 20,000 watts going through a PCI-E cable, they don't understand international logistics.
Beside this, many look at the situation in their country, not analysing the whole situation. Just a scenario: Switzerland and China have a free trade agreement. So no VAT or whatsoever is due for importing the miners to Switzerland. There, they can be stored without any problem in the duty free area. So they - technically - are still ex-Switzerland. For sending them around in Europe, you wouldn't have to invent the wheel: There are existing companies which do this. Easy and cheap. So if Bitmain would analyse how many miners they could sell in Europe, they could easily store them there before sales start and ship them very quickly around in Europe. If this would save Bitmain AND the clients a couple of bucks, it would be fine.
Furthermore, if you know where, you will be able to find very cheap electricity in Switzerland.... So European miners who would have to pay like 20% VAT could leave the miners in Switzerland for cheap mining - without paying ANY VAT.
With creativity and research, there would be a lot of possibilities to save money for both sides....
for S5, so 384+25-30 appears to be right 
