Topic: ANTMINER S5: 1155GH(+OverClock Potential), In Stock $0.319/GH & 0.51W/GH - page 284. (Read 451266 times)

We would love to cater you in UK for cheaper, too, however, we have to respect each country's law in regards to import tax and VAT.  Unfortunately, we are not big enough to move that big rock to say, please waive the import tax or VAT on our products.

Would be nice if units could be sold by UK reseller and gets stock in cheap and no Import duties as would like to buy some of these S5 however would kill me on import duties and tax.

I wish the price was a little lower.

Thanks for your opinion. We have done a small batch of S3++ in the domestic market, which employee the string power design on the BM1382 chip. It works stable and sound until now.

S5 will open sales VERY SOON!!!!

Noise wise, we will post DB level reading like it was done in S3 and S4 in the past

Happy Shopping!  




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manufacturers almost never talk about noise straight.
Besides, people have situations that differ: many have basements or sheds, which makes it much less relevant.

That's my current decision making issue between the sp20 and S5.  I'm hoping to get some details on noise prior to year end so I can make some tax write-off purchases.  Hopefully when this 'fluid' period is over we will have a price and info that will make them the hands down choice (personally I want it to be a no-brainer). Right now comparing batches to batches, the sp20 has them beat by about $600 for the same hashing, not counting the free shipping.

I'm rooting for BM.  I've had the S1, S3, S4, U1 & U2. Liked them all, but the sp20 does look enticing and gets solid reviews.

Interesting product. A lot will depend on pricing, but at similar pricing and efficiency I think you'd have to give the nod to the SP20 due to many of the reasons other people have listed here (established product, ease of changing settings), but also due to the potential risks inherent in the chained design. Bitmain saves significantly on costs by eliminating the VRMs and should get a small efficiency boost from it as well, but so did AM and everyone saw how the Prismas turned out. This wouldn't be a product I'd be investing a lot of money into until the first batch is field tested for awhile.

Do we independent or factual noise figures for the S5?

SP20's underclocked are rather quiet. I do agree the noise levels are high if you live near the equator.

I completely agree, Bitmain DID a great job on both previous designs and ROI figures. The games has changed and I still believe the U3, and C1 was the wrong direction. A waste of resources. Not speculating, however if you look at history and extrapolate, with advancements in technology we see some very large jumps in difficulty. Naturally, whilst some will ignore history and repeat the same mistakes, waiting for batch 2 (ie. the more bug free version), we shall see what the true difficulty numbers will be. Just saying don't jump in head first.

A great point on the connections. Where is the logic to continuing the same flawed design. The two other major manufacturers have pretty much the same single end connected design.

So making adjustments via a web interface is now classified as a "hack".
NO, NO IT'S NOT!
Having to get a power supply at 9V to underclock your S5's is a "hack".

Wait, I got confused.  Are we talking about ROI, competing or just what it'd take for some of us to pull the trigger?

A. Competing is easy...Bitmain does a fairly decent job as of late. (They use to be very good about allowing an ROI in the early days.)
B.  ROI....wishful thinking.
C.  What it would take to keep playing in the sandbox...a reasonable gross return of bitcoin expended.

YMMV.

Apparently that has changed to ...
"ANTMINER S5: The New Standard, 0.51J/G,"

So apparently it's now the "new standard" of what? something the SP20 has been capable of for months?

You can also resell used miners on Ebay and recoup some of your investment. The resale value of most mining gear is actually pretty decent assuming the hardware is not junk or completely obsolete.

Lets be realistic, every new advancement in technology, history has shown at least a doubling in difficulty. There is no way an S5 will be able to compete even at half the price. Too little, too late.

With the above insert +10

buy and hold:
1. bores me to tears-I have much more fun trading stocks on a stock market, so mining is clearly more fun.
2. mining is a stretched out affair, essentially you also buy and hold if you are covering your miner and electricity cost  with $$, but accumulate bitcoin. You get much better averaging by mining vs buying in lump sums.

Here's my quick and dirty projection:

1155gh/s currently returns an expected .0147btc per day.  Assume no diff change then 90 day return would be 1.323btc. At current rates that's $436 including psu.  Thermalake is the cheapest PSU I currently see for $67. That would make the S5 cost should be $369 to break-even in 90 days with 'free' electricity.  Any value to sell or mine with after that would be used to offset electricity costs and profit.

So basically if it can't gross it's cost in 90 days, I don't expect it to ever ROI.  This is being rather liberal since diff will change and most have to pay something for electricity. I also don't take into account changes in btc price as if it changes, buy and hold makes more sense.

it's just probability...S1 was good, S3 was good (for me); S5 seems to be more like S1.
S2 was not great, but not bad. S4-did not buy because of power supply problem in batch 1.
The caution for me is in the chains while in SP20 you can regulate chips voltage-very neat.
I got one, will buy more SP20, S5 or both-will decide soon.