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Topic: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake - page 44. (Read 395841 times)

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Has anyone seen earnings from forging? Not sure if it's worth trying to stake my holdings.
Depends on size of your holdings. I have more than 100K, joined the forging pool and my earnings noticebly increased last days.  Sure, income will grow in proportion with number of childchains run on ARDOR.
sr. member
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Forging Ardor and NXT is different from your average PoS Coin. First, the rewards come from transaction fees only. There's no generating of new coins. Also, Ardor is still in it's infant days so there's not much transactions at the moment. Ignis is not even tradeable on major Exchanges.
You can lease your Ardor to a pool however. The idea is that in a pool you'll forge more often due to the  pool's higher forging power. You'll receive a share of each forged block.
full member
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Has anyone seen earnings from forging? Not sure if it's worth trying to stake my holdings.

Agreed, and even when you do forge a block it is often contains no transactions, so no rewards earned. So if you have 10,000 Ardor and forge you will earn about 1 Ardor a month WHEN it has more transactions than it does now.
If you look at the active forgers in the GUI (Settings -> Generators), you will notice that each has an effective balance greater than 100,000 ARDR (and often greater than 1,000,000).  I've been forging with 75,000 ARDR and have generated 2 blocks in 4 days.  I used to forge on Nxt and had similar results.
sr. member
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Has anyone seen earnings from forging? Not sure if it's worth trying to stake my holdings.

Agreed, and even when you do forge a block it is often contains no transactions, so no rewards earned. So if you have 10,000 Ardor and forge you will earn about 1 Ardor a month WHEN it has more transactions than it does now.
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I've read that foraging isn't that great unless you have a very large stake.  If someone has a different answer, please advise - I just tripled my stake at .98 on Bittrex

Bittrex marke is up and running great, just purchased from a bunch of small stake holders who are going to be crying on their pillow in a month.

Hold and buy and hold, people. This coin will make you a ton of money by the end of the year.  A TON.

And Satoshi is holding up the price at around a buck. When breakout comes Ardor will outpace most others.

Good luck.
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Has anyone seen earnings from forging? Not sure if it's worth trying to stake my holdings.
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The Account Property Bundler
How your users can submit zero fee transactions

https://medium.com/@lyaffe/the-account-property-bundler-e70734859e26


Bundling is the process of packaging multiple child chain transactions into a single ChildChainBlock transaction on the parent chain.
A simple explanation of this process is provided in our wiki
In Ardor version 2.0.13 released today we improved the UI of the bundler page to make it easier to use. We now separate all the known bundlers of the node from the bundlers started by the current account and limit the bundlers listed, to the current chain, and sort them by rate.



However, what if you are a business (think exchange, pegged chain, merchant, crowd sale) and you want to allow zero transaction fees for your child chain users? If you setup a zero fee bundler it will bundle all this child chain transactions not only your users transactions. We had to somehow allow bundlers to filter out transactions they don’t want to bundle.
The initial release of Ardor included a PersonalBundler which when configured bundles only the transactions submitted by the bundler account itself. However exchanges need more flexibility, for example if an exchange has separate accounts for Ardor, Ignis, BitSwift and so one. It makes a lot of sense for the account holding the Ardor to perform the bundling for the withdrawal transaction submitted for the child chains. Since this account is practically guaranteed to always be able to pay the Ardor transaction fees necessary for bundling.
This is where the Account Property Bundler comes into play. As explained in the 2.0.13 changelog:
“Added AccountPropertyBundler add-on, which only bundles transactions sent by accounts having the “bundling” property set on them by the bundler. To enable, set nxt.bundlingFilter=nxt.addons.AccountPropertyBundler. This will apply to all bundlers started on this node.”
You can see below how account ARDOR-V4D7-D3XW-JX9Z-EAC8K set account properties on two other accounts. Once this account will setup the configuration and start a bundler, it will only bundle transactions submitted by one of these accounts.



It goes without saying that this an advanced feature which is only relevant for businesses who need more control over the bundling process. If you just want to bundle transactions for a specific chain, you can simply start a bundler and provide the child per parent exchange rate.
Summary
The unique parent-child chain architecture of Ardor, enables businesses to bundle zero fee transactions so that their users no longer need to pay transaction fees. This unique function, available only in Ardor, finally allows decentralized applications to reach main stream adaption.




They will definitely  experience incredible growth.  The best part about being a Bundler  is that they continue to make money in both red  and  green days.
legendary
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2009 Alea iacta est
The Account Property Bundler
How your users can submit zero fee transactions

https://medium.com/@lyaffe/the-account-property-bundler-e70734859e26


Bundling is the process of packaging multiple child chain transactions into a single ChildChainBlock transaction on the parent chain.
A simple explanation of this process is provided in our wiki
In Ardor version 2.0.13 released today we improved the UI of the bundler page to make it easier to use. We now separate all the known bundlers of the node from the bundlers started by the current account and limit the bundlers listed, to the current chain, and sort them by rate.



However, what if you are a business (think exchange, pegged chain, merchant, crowd sale) and you want to allow zero transaction fees for your child chain users? If you setup a zero fee bundler it will bundle all this child chain transactions not only your users transactions. We had to somehow allow bundlers to filter out transactions they don’t want to bundle.
The initial release of Ardor included a PersonalBundler which when configured bundles only the transactions submitted by the bundler account itself. However exchanges need more flexibility, for example if an exchange has separate accounts for Ardor, Ignis, BitSwift and so one. It makes a lot of sense for the account holding the Ardor to perform the bundling for the withdrawal transaction submitted for the child chains. Since this account is practically guaranteed to always be able to pay the Ardor transaction fees necessary for bundling.
This is where the Account Property Bundler comes into play. As explained in the 2.0.13 changelog:
“Added AccountPropertyBundler add-on, which only bundles transactions sent by accounts having the “bundling” property set on them by the bundler. To enable, set nxt.bundlingFilter=nxt.addons.AccountPropertyBundler. This will apply to all bundlers started on this node.”
You can see below how account ARDOR-V4D7-D3XW-JX9Z-EAC8K set account properties on two other accounts. Once this account will setup the configuration and start a bundler, it will only bundle transactions submitted by one of these accounts.



It goes without saying that this an advanced feature which is only relevant for businesses who need more control over the bundling process. If you just want to bundle transactions for a specific chain, you can simply start a bundler and provide the child per parent exchange rate.
Summary
The unique parent-child chain architecture of Ardor, enables businesses to bundle zero fee transactions so that their users no longer need to pay transaction fees. This unique function, available only in Ardor, finally allows decentralized applications to reach main stream adaption.


member
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Thought I got the bottom, but it was 1500 satoshi higher lol.

Ardor, time to deliver! Smiley Waiting for news.
hero member
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GoMeat - Digitalizing Meat Stores - ICO
With almost all assets are down on this bear market period . Time to stack some ARDR up. It is a dirt cheap right now considering the vast usefulness of the ardor token and its platform .
legendary
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Im sure these markets will settle down at the end of the month.

So much FUD in the media holding everyone back in crypto right now.

Its serious market manipulation at its best.
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Nxt News – January 2018 (IV): Don’t let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning

newbie
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I wish that such companies were as much as possible!
newbie
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Interesting project sir.
member
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Hi

I just got one question I leased my effective account balance.
Does this get adjusted after transfering additional ardor (after 1440 confirmations)?
When will the payouts happen? At the end or will I see them directly?

Thank you for answering.

Yeah, your leasing power will be automatically adjusted after transferring extra tokens of ARDR. At the end of leasing you may either request your payment or proceed with another span.
newbie
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Hi

I just got one question I leased my effective account balance.
Does this get adjusted after transfering additional ardor (after 1440 confirmations)?
When will the payouts happen? At the end or will I see them directly?

Thank you for answering.
full member
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Surprised and happy about that price drop.

Wasn't expecting Ardor going down. Thought it will skyrocket to $2 or $3 in the first day of enabling trades on Bittrex. But all attention is being spent on FUDing banks all over the world.

What I am going to say - Skyrocket and 15-30b cap is coming. Just pin my post and then ask how did I figure that out? Easy, I've read github and haven't found any BS.


...why does a price crash makes  you happy?

Because the guy is loading the truck...Buy low and hodl!!!  Grin
member
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NXT and ARDOR are both on the move, sure glad I bought more
member
Activity: 252
Merit: 12
Surprised and happy about that price drop.

Wasn't expecting Ardor going down. Thought it will skyrocket to $2 or $3 in the first day of enabling trades on Bittrex. But all attention is being spent on FUDing banks all over the world.

What I am going to say - Skyrocket and 15-30b cap is coming. Just pin my post and then ask how did I figure that out? Easy, I've read github and haven't found any BS.


...why does a price crash makes  you happy?

because I just bought for 99 cents exactly Smiley It will go high soon Smiley
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