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Topic: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake - page 52. (Read 395958 times)

newbie
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Thanks allinvain, do you know the approximate return per 1,000 Ardor?
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
will there be a very significant price comparison between Ignis and Ardor? which will achieve success later between them, but I will still maintain to buy Ardor.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1083
This underlines the importance of patience in this crypto game. So many new spoiled kids in this industry that want it their way and want it right now or yesterday  Undecided Once more exchanges get their Ardor daemons ready I see no reason why Ardor/Ignis should not be worth $10 or more.
Completely correct.

One can even create the following bullish theory:
- Ardor scales about 35 times better than Bitcoin. So it could have 35x more users than BTC, with the same hardware requirements for full nodes.
- Ardor has about 40x more tokens than Bitcoin. That's not much more than 35x.
- Conclusion: Ardor can be worth what Bitcoin is worth now. 1 ARDR = $17000 in 2021 Grin Grin

I know, it's not completely correct - ARDR + IGNIS are "diluting" each other a bit. But I think Ignis could well position itself as a mainstream payment token, used for example for BitPay/CoinPayments/Ripio payments and exchange-to-exchange transfers. And then a multi-billion market cap would be very likely.

Exchanges and service providers should know that the capacity/fees problems Bitcoin sees now would probably never happen with Ardor.

You bring up a very good point about ARDR + IGNIS "diluting" each other. I like to think of this as Bitcoin + Litecoin rolled into one. As you say, Ignis can be used for day to day transactions kind of like the US dollar (using a fiat example) and Ardor can act as the reserve or "store of value" backing behind Ignis (like gold backing).

IMHO I'd like to see a 10:1  or 10:2 value ratio of Ardor to Ignis. This hinges on there being more than 1 economically active chain on the Ardor motherchain. So I guess what I'm saying is that a fair market value for Ardor should be around $10 and for Ignis around $1 to $2 for _now_.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1083
No I do not get into any of that scam lending crap, I actually invest in good projects.  Proof of Staking and Masternodes of good projects.

I suggest buying a boat load of Ardor and leasing your balance to a big pool like the one ran by forkedchain. Once transactions volume increases forging income will follow.


newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
No I do not get into any of that scam lending crap, I actually invest in good projects.  Proof of Staking and Masternodes of good projects.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 6249
Decentralization Maximalist
What percent proof of stake is awarded? I am interested in investing in Ardor.
Only transaction fees. If you want a HYIP coin, you can buy Bitconnect Grin
newbie
Activity: 3
Merit: 0
What percent proof of stake is awarded? I am interested in investing in Ardor.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 6249
Decentralization Maximalist
This underlines the importance of patience in this crypto game. So many new spoiled kids in this industry that want it their way and want it right now or yesterday  Undecided Once more exchanges get their Ardor daemons ready I see no reason why Ardor/Ignis should not be worth $10 or more.
Completely correct.

One can even create the following bullish theory:
- Ardor scales about 35 times better than Bitcoin. So it could have 35x more users than BTC, with the same hardware requirements for full nodes.
- Ardor has about 40x more tokens than Bitcoin. That's not much more than 35x.
- Conclusion: Ardor can be worth what Bitcoin is worth now. 1 ARDR = $17000 in 2021 Grin Grin

I know, it's not completely correct - ARDR + IGNIS are "diluting" each other a bit. But I think Ignis could well position itself as a mainstream payment token, used for example for BitPay/CoinPayments/Ripio payments and exchange-to-exchange transfers. And then a multi-billion market cap would be very likely.

Exchanges and service providers should know that the capacity/fees problems Bitcoin sees now would probably never happen with Ardor.
legendary
Activity: 3080
Merit: 1083
Read this, about last ardor updates, exchanges etc.
https://medium.com/@lyaffe/ardor-launch-update-1-be8a0508bdaf

This underlines the importance of patience in this crypto game. So many new spoiled kids in this industry that want it their way and want it right now or yesterday  Undecided Once more exchanges get their Ardor daemons ready I see no reason why Ardor/Ignis should not be worth $10 or more.
hero member
Activity: 840
Merit: 1000
What do you think about the price? What events will be in January-February? It is necessary to keep this coin for a long time?

Probably nothing for now because their goal for now is to make sure that everything is going to work out perfectly fine so I expect Q1 2018 is going to be a boring month for ardor and ignis so the price might always go sideway until atleast june or july
newbie
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Merit: 0
sr. member
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Merit: 251
I would say that the crypto experiment has failed.  Not because my coins were stolen with a simple key logger, but because there is no honor in the crypto space.  The internet seems to bring out the best and worst in people.  Money or the idea of money brings out the worst in people.   The idea of decentralization would be admirable if it were accompanied by honorable users.  Money and honor can not co-exist apparently.  So what do you end up with?  A club of users hoarding coins, thinking those coins are worth something simply because a small minority of users are willing to trade a small minority of the coins for an inflated value.  The truth is that if everyone decided not to trade then we would see the real value of these coins which is ZERO.  The only thing required to give the coin value is some sucker to trade his coins for value and now all of the sudden the entire network suddenly has value.   I'm not trying to spread FUD about crypto.  Crypto is not the problem.  People are the problem. As long as people are willing to act dishonorably then Crypto will fail.  ARDR is a good coin but at the end of the day it is just a computer software program that took a year or two to code.  It is not worth a billion dollars.  Maybe it is some coder's pet project, their baby.  That is admirable. The talent is admirable. But if users put that kind of price tag on a software network of thieves then they deserve to get scammed IMHO.  So what?  My 113,000 coins had perceived value.  Not to me.  I know their true worth.  Zero, because I choose zero.   

Word to the wise.  If you want to be rich, then read a book, or go outside and go hiking.  Get away from the computer.  Wealth is in the mind.   Kiss  Kiss Kiss

Good-bye!!!
If you had a keylogger, wasn't that equally likely to steal fiat if you used online banking? I'm not sure why you are saying there is no honour in the crypto space because of one bad apple.

I think you underestimate the work put into Ardor. It is based on Nxt, so the code base is more than 4 years old and has had several programmers working on it. The real value will come from how it gets used. Nxt didn't seem to get used much, but Ardor has launched with a bit more publicity, and Jelurida has funds from the ICO, so we're hoping for better things.
sr. member
Activity: 339
Merit: 251
looks like polo has refunded/reversed my ARDR withdrawal that was stuck...however, deposits/withdrawals currently disabled
full member
Activity: 792
Merit: 176
Bitcoin Artist and Fashion Designer
What do you think about the price? What events will be in January-February? It is necessary to keep this coin for a long time?
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 6249
Decentralization Maximalist
i change my 55nxt with 52 jelurida token 4 mounths ago and in nxt wallet i see my 52 jelurida token
but now in ardor test web wallet i have 26 ignis and in test nxt wallet i cant see my jelurida token
where is my 26 other ignis? my balance must be 52 ignis but is 26 why?
Yes, you should have 52 Ignis, in theory. The "worst case" would be if you had bought 26 legit tokens and 26 fake tokens. I hope you bought everything on the official "token sale site" and not in the "raw" monetary system section.

If you want, you can send me your NXT address (the NXT-XXXX-XXXX... one) by PM (or post it here, if you haven't privacy problems) and I check where the error lies. Or check it yourself in http://ardor.tools.
newbie
Activity: 6
Merit: 0
How do I know when Ardor is able to trade on Bittrex and Poloniex again?

Sorry, im pretty new to crypto.
hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 709
https://twitter.com/Jelurida/status/949230305046663168

WARNING! Users report that $ARDR deposits and withdrawals to and from @Poloniex are not working.  We tested it and we confirmed it. We are trying persistently to get in touch with @Poloniex but no answer so far.  We ask you NOT TO MAKE any ARDR deposits or withdrawals for now!

I had a withdrawal from Poloniex (but Ardor never arrived) and the support failed to solve the problem: the coins were credited back to me. Maybe it's longer than expected.
full member
Activity: 143
Merit: 100
Can anyone help here? I cant get my wallet to log in.

I get "Cannot connect to /nxt-proxy No openAPI peers found"

Anyone else having this issue?

Install the full node client....The light version does not work well and you will always get the reported message.
By installing the full node client does this automatically make your computer a full node?
Or are their extra commands you need to do?

This looks like the right project for me to get a node online as I have alot of ram and cpu power is just sitting idle.
Might as well put them to good use wouldn't you agree?

If there is a tutorial on youtube showing the steps involved in getting one online that would be appreciated.
Thanks.

 Just install Ardor client 2.0.10 from www.jelurida.com (do not select lite mode and testnet during install) and you are set. Please also note, node starting from scratch could take some time, do not interrupt process.

Yep, moreover, you need to have at least 1000 ARDR to enable forging...Thanks for securing the network!
legendary
Activity: 1162
Merit: 1005
Can anyone help here? I cant get my wallet to log in.

I get "Cannot connect to /nxt-proxy No openAPI peers found"

Anyone else having this issue?

Install the full node client....The light version does not work well and you will always get the reported message.
By installing the full node client does this automatically make your computer a full node?
Or are their extra commands you need to do?

This looks like the right project for me to get a node online as I have alot of ram and cpu power is just sitting idle.
Might as well put them to good use wouldn't you agree?

If there is a tutorial on youtube showing the steps involved in getting one online that would be appreciated.
Thanks.

 Just install Ardor client 2.0.10 from www.jelurida.com (do not select lite mode and testnet during install) and you are set. Please also note, node starting from scratch could take some time, do not interrupt process.
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 122
Can anyone help here? I cant get my wallet to log in.

I get "Cannot connect to /nxt-proxy No openAPI peers found"

Anyone else having this issue?

Install the full node client....The light version does not work well and you will always get the reported message.
By installing the full node client does this automatically make your computer a full node?
Or are their extra commands you need to do?

This looks like the right project for me to get a node online as I have alot of ram and cpu power is just sitting idle.
Might as well put them to good use wouldn't you agree?

If there is a tutorial on youtube showing the steps involved in getting one online that would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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