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September 01, 2023, 03:21:22 AM
The majority of gamblers are drawn in by flashy promos, much like moths to a flame, but who are the true experts, the winning gamblers? They look past the mirrors and smoke. They possess both vision and insight

Addiction is a serious problem, as you pointed out. These promotions are offered by casinos, you see, as bait. A true expert, however, understands when to bite and when to wait. Considering that they are influencing the game rather than just playing it. Not only are they players in a game of chance, but they are the designers of their own destiny

Successful gamblers who truly are a rare breed. We ought to venerate them since they're superior to everyone else. Stop being influenced by every small offer that comes your way and start thinking large if you want to be one of them! Recall: advertisements will come and go, but legends? They always exist. Until the next promotion, anyhow
That's true and that's what keeps gamblers returning to the casino, whether old or new. They are really interested in the casino's promotions, which creates that curiosity to send the gamblers back to the casino.

For this reason, we as people who gamble frequently, must really be able to prevent bait in the form of promotions from casinos. We must be able to determine which promos we can take and stay away from to prevent gambling addiction because once we feel the pleasure of playing gambling, it can make us come back again and again. We gamble only for fun and not to make money. That's what we have to remember when playing gambling.

A successful gambler can control himself and is not easily tempted by promos from casinos. They can play gambling in peace and act wisely after gambling for a while. Maybe we will find it difficult to become successful gamblers, but we can become responsible gamblers when gambling.
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August 31, 2023, 06:12:22 PM
First of all how do we measure a successful gambler, a successful gambler is the one who has used gambling to acquire everything in life. And he is still living fine in the society. Now do we have such gamblers in the society? And I don't think so. But we have average gamblers. Those who have money in the gambling field and uses huge amount of money to gamble are businessmen and not successful gamblers. A gambler might wins a big amount of money and by the time he has done or carry out some the project, the money would just finished halfway.

In addition, a successful gambler is always a gambling addict if you are not an addict there is no way you will become a successful gambler because for you to be a successful gambler, your body and soul must involved.
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August 31, 2023, 05:27:59 PM
I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

lol(*)
Excuse me, the fact that someone has many hours dedicated to whatever, it does not mean that they are addicted, the addict is sick, it is a pathology, it is treated as a disease.

The winning or losing player who does not put in many hours of gaming can be addicted.

(*)In fact, the situation is so complex that you can be addicted to anything in life and not know it, for example gambling, there are addicts who never return to a casino, they don't lose money or win, but they live and think about gambling every moment, they suffer stress, impatience without playing.

(this to justify my initial laughter, I don't want to seem to disagree with you, but I think you don't understand the issue of addictions beyond the colloquial comments that people always mention because they see a person many hours in any activity).
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August 31, 2023, 05:17:35 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
If you look at the facts that happen in gambling. Addiction and gambling are things that always go hand in hand. But the context is like this, a gambling addict, sometimes there are those who are successful and sometimes there are those who are not successful. So if a gambling player gets success from the results of playing his gambling, it means that his gambling journey is arguably not a short time and is also very consistent in playing his gambling. This means that in general, people who are consistent and have been playing gambling for a long time can be said to be addicted to gambling.

But what about a beginner in the field of gambling,suppose he is not yet addicted and he
also the first time playing gambling. But because of the luck of the beginner, he won the bet and made a huge profit. Because there are not a few people who play gambling for the first time and immediately get lucky and win.

So if you look at all aspects of success in gambling. People who are successful through gambling, if they are said to be addicted, they can too and if they are said not to be addicted, they can too.

You are right, generally when there are two types of players in casinos, the successful and those who do not win, normally a successful player is because he has a large enough financial capacity, so he can afford to lose as many times as he wants. , but a normal player, a player who, above all, has been in the world of gambling for some time, casinos and others, including sports betting, we as people and players who have some experience in the world of gambling, can attest that these activities are due be very careful to take care of the fact of not becoming addicted to the game, these things are what we have to see, and one of the things to avoid becoming addicted are several things, such as only bet what we are allowed and willing to lose, not bet more money than we can afford to lose.

When there are novice players, the odds and successes that are seen are not many, some believe that they will never lose, others see the casino as an option to multiply money, and others see it as the best option to make quick money and become millionaires quickly. , then they are things that sometimes we don't even take a good look at, but we throw ourselves towards the things that we believe best.

A novice should always look for a way to take the necessary precautions before playing so that he does not blind himself to the mistakes that a gambling addict already has, one is the desperation to consider winnings when a lot has been lost, another is to seek to win more than what norm, l, that is to say, if you bet 10 usd, you will not claim to win 1000 usd unless you are playing in a slot machine and the truth is that you are very, very lucky, yes you can but it has to be a very specific case of great luck, the truth is something Difficult, but possible, so since the possibility is so remote, it should not be taken as an option to search, because it does not make sense, looking for something so difficult is hard, it is better to do other things so that you can do the possibility of earning a little more.
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August 31, 2023, 02:50:29 PM

It's not always about the gains, but it's the control they have over their losses that makes them successful because they don't just allow the house to rip them off but they stop gambling right at the moment they see they are losing constantly which is usually an indicator that your luck isn't working and you should stop trying, but most gamblers don't see this that way and they keep thinking that they will start winning any time until they lose everything.

So, when they manage to save their funds from excessive losses when their luck isn't on their side, they use the same money to win in a different session sometime later which is what everyone should do. I've suggested this to a lot of people but they just don't understand and keep doing what they think is right.

Some gamblers opinion is always gain and they thought to get the income from the gambling.It’s really hard one to the experienced gamblers to get continuous gain,the game had both loss and gain.Only way is we can increase the winning percentage to the gambling by creating tactics on the game.Some people get the indicators from his many friends and loss all the time.The fact is the tactics will be created by one gamblers based on their past history.We can’t sure the same tactics help us to get win.Actually if two people use same tactics in same game is not good one.Most of the gambling addict was born on the continuous loss in the game.

Successful gamblers aren't considered as addicts because they have the proper control of everything. Those who fall for gambling addiction are those who can't control their urges and usually make wrong decisions because of lack of self control. We can say that they will but they aren't successful since they don't have limitations that they are even spending all that they have just to enjoy gambling.
Successful gamblers are those who know when to stop and when to continue. Of course, they still experience losses but they have the right mindset, self discipline and proper control towards gambling. The success of a gambler shouldn't be determined only by his total wins but rather how he handles gambling risks wisely.
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August 31, 2023, 01:59:52 PM
However the society does not see the successful gambler as gambling addict.
I wouldn't say the entire society but the majority of us do see successful gamblers as simple as they are successful. In our society, as long as you've got money and however you're able to obtain that, I don't think that most people will scrutinize you as it's not really a requirement.

They treat them as role model for other gamblers which is not right.
As long as you are winning , people will appraise you even if you are addicted to gambling. That's a sad reality.
I agree, that's the truth and this society only looks upon you when you have money. So whether you're a gambler but you've got a lot of money , you don't have to think of what other people are going to say about you. There's already the description about you having lots of money.
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August 31, 2023, 01:48:16 PM

It's not always about the gains, but it's the control they have over their losses that makes them successful because they don't just allow the house to rip them off but they stop gambling right at the moment they see they are losing constantly which is usually an indicator that your luck isn't working and you should stop trying, but most gamblers don't see this that way and they keep thinking that they will start winning any time until they lose everything.

So, when they manage to save their funds from excessive losses when their luck isn't on their side, they use the same money to win in a different session sometime later which is what everyone should do. I've suggested this to a lot of people but they just don't understand and keep doing what they think is right.

Some gamblers opinion is always gain and they thought to get the income from the gambling.It’s really hard one to the experienced gamblers to get continuous gain,the game had both loss and gain.Only way is we can increase the winning percentage to the gambling by creating tactics on the game.Some people get the indicators from his many friends and loss all the time.The fact is the tactics will be created by one gamblers based on their past history.We can’t sure the same tactics help us to get win.Actually if two people use same tactics in same game is not good one.Most of the gambling addict was born on the continuous loss in the game.
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August 31, 2023, 01:30:40 PM
If they invested time and effort here, most probably this is their profession already.
I mean they take gambling seriously and not just gamble for entertainment. There are gamblers who are treating gambling like their daily job and some are earning a lot and that’s the time we can call you a successful gambler if you are able to control your finances and keep on winning in gambling.
Successful gamblers are never addicted to gambling.  Because those who are addicted to gambling deviate from their normal thinking and greed works in them due to which they cannot gain anything good from gambling.  On the other hand they suffer a lot from gambling.  However, those who are successful gamblers do not gamble for a long time but think a lot and do a lot of research and then invest in gambling. Don't panic while gambling but gamble with a cool head. And finally they succeed. they are the real gainers
It's not always about the gains, but it's the control they have over their losses that makes them successful because they don't just allow the house to rip them off but they stop gambling right at the moment they see they are losing constantly which is usually an indicator that your luck isn't working and you should stop trying, but most gamblers don't see this that way and they keep thinking that they will start winning any time until they lose everything.

So, when they manage to save their funds from excessive losses when their luck isn't on their side, they use the same money to win in a different session sometime later which is what everyone should do. I've suggested this to a lot of people but they just don't understand and keep doing what they think is right.
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August 31, 2023, 11:16:51 AM
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I'm not going to look at it from your point of view. According to research, persons who are even addicted to gambling do not necessarily make a fortune or a large profit from it. When they win a small amount, they will want to attempt again and again, hoping to win more, but all to no effect. A successful gambler is usually one who is clever enough to play and forecast a game, and when they win, they either stop playing or lessen their degree of risk by investing modest amounts of money in gambling again. Successful gamblers are wise and intelligent, not addicted as you may have assumed.

This is why there's a saying that In the world of gambling gamblers always loss or let say gamblers are loss more than their winning. And one of the best reason is that when a gambler out his bet every day by 10$ which is pretty good enough cause if he win then the amount of winning is 500$ but when the gambler bet everyday and within 6 months of betting he won then he put his mind that gambling can make them rich without knowing that his winning see too small than his losses.
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August 31, 2023, 10:01:55 AM
Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

I'm not going to look at it from your point of view. According to research, persons who are even addicted to gambling do not necessarily make a fortune or a large profit from it. When they win a small amount, they will want to attempt again and again, hoping to win more, but all to no effect. A successful gambler is usually one who is clever enough to play and forecast a game, and when they win, they either stop playing or lessen their degree of risk by investing modest amounts of money in gambling again. Successful gamblers are wise and intelligent, not addicted as you may have assumed.
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August 31, 2023, 09:28:07 AM
I wish I could have posted this in a more better place but since the thoughts came from gambling addiction, I thought it wise to ask this question over here and I hope we can discuss and get this straight.

Just as the tittle already ask, I really want to know if people who are successful in gambling also seen as addicts because I believe  for one to be successful in gambling or whatever they choose to do, there must be some good amount  of time and effort invested in it as well as money and we know that a successful  gambler must have invested  both time, effort and even money to make any reasonable  winning  and these also are features of an addict as there are always excessive time spent on a betting site.

Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?

We have different perspective in life cause in my opinion I can say that there's a successful gamblers Yes they can won a good amount of money or let say they will won successively but I cannot say that they are successful in gambling cause there's no gambler has been successfull betting everyday maybe there's a gambler who bet on lottery and hit the jackpot then he became a millionaire or even billionaire but still it can't be called successful cause he won because of his luck without his luck he can not win.
If you win = You are successful.
In gambling, gamblers do not have any other objective but to win. If you win, other people will say that you successfully win a huge amount of money. Even if it's by luck or what. A win is a win, and that means you are successful by achieving that winning.

And to answer OP, yes, because spending a lot of time and especially money means that you focus all of your time on gambling. A successful gambler has nothing in mind but gambling.
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August 31, 2023, 09:10:02 AM
I think also that the reason that successful gamblers succeed is because they see gambling like business. In other words, in a business, it requires adequate plan and execution so also do  they gamble. They refuse the temptation of continuous gambling because they have lost some bet like it is used to gamblers who don't understand the withdrawal strategy.

Those who are addicts are the less successful gamblers and that is why they are always found gambling to win or recover losses, and the successful gamblers are not addicts because they don't display the desperation sign.
Obviously, successful gamblers can make plans and execute based on the plans they have previously made so that they gamble well. They can resist temptations that many gamblers cannot and are further tempted by the offers from the casinos. That differentiates successful gamblers from most gamblers because they have more experience and other things they have gained from their gambling journey.

Those who are addicted to gambling cannot control themselves because they are increasingly tempted by offers and promotions given by casinos, even though these are just promotions that they can take whenever they want and not just take them straight away. Meanwhile, successful gamblers know that a promotion is just a promotion and there will be other promotions that are even more interesting.
The majority of gamblers are drawn in by flashy promos, much like moths to a flame, but who are the true experts, the winning gamblers? They look past the mirrors and smoke. They possess both vision and insight

Addiction is a serious problem, as you pointed out. These promotions are offered by casinos, you see, as bait. A true expert, however, understands when to bite and when to wait. Considering that they are influencing the game rather than just playing it. Not only are they players in a game of chance, but they are the designers of their own destiny

Successful gamblers who truly are a rare breed. We ought to venerate them since they're superior to everyone else. Stop being influenced by every small offer that comes your way and start thinking large if you want to be one of them! Recall: advertisements will come and go, but legends? They always exist. Until the next promotion, anyhow
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August 30, 2023, 11:18:47 PM
I think also that the reason that successful gamblers succeed is because they see gambling like business. In other words, in a business, it requires adequate plan and execution so also do  they gamble. They refuse the temptation of continuous gambling because they have lost some bet like it is used to gamblers who don't understand the withdrawal strategy.

Those who are addicts are the less successful gamblers and that is why they are always found gambling to win or recover losses, and the successful gamblers are not addicts because they don't display the desperation sign.
Obviously, successful gamblers can make plans and execute based on the plans they have previously made so that they gamble well. They can resist temptations that many gamblers cannot and are further tempted by the offers from the casinos. That differentiates successful gamblers from most gamblers because they have more experience and other things they have gained from their gambling journey.

Those who are addicted to gambling cannot control themselves because they are increasingly tempted by offers and promotions given by casinos, even though these are just promotions that they can take whenever they want and not just take them straight away. Meanwhile, successful gamblers know that a promotion is just a promotion and there will be other promotions that are even more interesting.
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August 30, 2023, 11:17:51 PM
We have different perspective in life cause in my opinion I can say that there's a successful gamblers Yes they can won a good amount of money or let say they will won successively but I cannot say that they are successful in gambling cause there's no gambler has been successfull betting everyday maybe there's a gambler who bet on lottery and hit the jackpot then he became a millionaire or even billionaire but still it can't be called successful cause he won because of his luck without his luck he can not win.

However the society does not see the successful gambler as gambling addict. They treat them as role model for other gamblers which is not right.
As long as you are winning , people will appraise you even if you are addicted to gambling. That's a sad reality.
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August 30, 2023, 11:09:53 PM
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Now let's be sincere, will you also classify a successful gambler as an addict?
If you look at the facts that happen in gambling. Addiction and gambling are things that always go hand in hand. But the context is like this, a gambling addict, sometimes there are those who are successful and sometimes there are those who are not successful. So if a gambling player gets success from the results of playing his gambling, it means that his gambling journey is arguably not a short time and is also very consistent in playing his gambling. This means that in general, people who are consistent and have been playing gambling for a long time can be said to be addicted to gambling.

But what about a beginner in the field of gambling,suppose he is not yet addicted and he
also the first time playing gambling. But because of the luck of the beginner, he won the bet and made a huge profit. Because there are not a few people who play gambling for the first time and immediately get lucky and win.

So if you look at all aspects of success in gambling. People who are successful through gambling, if they are said to be addicted, they can too and if they are said not to be addicted, they can too.
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August 30, 2023, 06:30:54 PM

These successful gamblers don't experience gambling addiction because they can manage everything well and use gambling well. They can overcome the temptation of gambling while other gamblers will find it difficult to do so. So we, who are just ordinary gamblers, must learn to control ourselves so we don't get addicted to gambling.


I think also that the reason that successful gamblers succeed is because they see gambling like business. In other words, in a business, it requires adequate plan and execution so also do  they gamble. They refuse the temptation of continuous gambling because they have lost some bet like it is used to gamblers who don't understand the withdrawal strategy.

Those who are addicts are the less successful gamblers and that is why they are always found gambling to win or recover losses, and the successful gamblers are not addicts because they don't display the desperation sign.
those that gained success are those that know what they are doing, they are betting on sports, they got strategy in their hand, even full fledged analysis in regard of the match.
meaning they come fully prepared to get that money doubled, its unlike many that just rely on their so called instincts and then went bankrupt afterwards.
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August 30, 2023, 06:29:28 PM
We know that gambling is not a job because it is too risky but some people make it a job and sometimes even take out loans just to have gambling and there are also those who spend the family's money just to have gambling and that is what I can call an addict, the one who doesn't have self control.

There are a lot of occupations that would be considered risky. Gambling isn’t a job not just it’s risky but it doesn’t give the gambler a steady and constant paycheck either weekly or monthly. Admittedly, some gamblers have taken up gambling as a job. Constantly taking out a loan for gambling is just crazy and that could be considered a sign of being an addict.
Lack of self control when gambling creates an addiction in people and would most likely bring about more losses as well. And a gambling addict with little to no self control cannot be successful.
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August 30, 2023, 06:00:54 PM
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Addicts are everywhere, we're the ones that would be able to tell ourselves the truth, nothing else. We know what we're signing for, and we hope it results in massive profits that would surpassed the loss. Successful gamblers already know the disciplinary measures to follow in the space, they're nothing compared to newbies but professionals, basically have a full knowledge of the gambling system. They make and estimate calculated risks within time, they're running in massive profits. More often, they do record some losses but with budgeted comeback winning to the system.

That's the thing, people hope to get a good result, while ignoring the math behind it.

At the end of the day, most gamblers just do it on a hunch, on feeling, rather than just simply calculating the math behind it, because the return is negative.

And also they cannot do the math because they don't have any records with them. They aren't even aware what are their risk reward is. They don't know when they usually lose, they don't know what is their edge to which they win more often.

Because in gambling if you wanted to be a winner, you gotta to what professionals do and not what addictive gambling do.
Yes, it is very likely that someone does not have financial records when playing gambling because all he thinks about is being able to play and hoping to win.
I agree with you if we look at how professional gamblers play, that is a good step because they will most likely set a good example so that we are not addicted to gambling, and of course we can control ourselves both in terms of finances and our abilities in gambling.
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August 30, 2023, 05:49:33 PM

These successful gamblers don't experience gambling addiction because they can manage everything well and use gambling well. They can overcome the temptation of gambling while other gamblers will find it difficult to do so. So we, who are just ordinary gamblers, must learn to control ourselves so we don't get addicted to gambling.


I think also that the reason that successful gamblers succeed is because they see gambling like business. In other words, in a business, it requires adequate plan and execution so also do  they gamble. They refuse the temptation of continuous gambling because they have lost some bet like it is used to gamblers who don't understand the withdrawal strategy.

Those who are addicts are the less successful gamblers and that is why they are always found gambling to win or recover losses, and the successful gamblers are not addicts because they don't display the desperation sign.
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August 30, 2023, 05:05:31 PM
Well, your first analogy is completely different from what gambling addiction is, the love to participate in something does not mean someone is necessary addicted to it, that I naturally love gambling does not mean I am addicted to gambling, gambling addiction is completely different from all these.

To add more addiction doesn't care if you love what you're doing or not. Addiction makes it so that you're obsessed with what you're doing and you don't care if you're winning or losing when it comes to gambling that's why addict run out of money and do illegal things.

Addiction makes you want to satisfy the urge to do what you're addicted to, you can neglect every other thing to make sure you fullfil the urge to gamble when you're a gambling addict that's why it's bad when someone is an addict because they're always dangerous to be with.

A successful gambler can be an addict as a well as an unsuccessful gambler. Successful gambler are the worse type of addict to correct because your can correct them by telling them how awful they're at Gambling to make them want to stop because they're winning always.
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