[BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 331.

damashup

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Quote from: crypto_zoidberg on August 21, 2014, 06:22:55 PM

Quote from: damashup on August 21, 2014, 04:21:52 PM

Quote from: maxcan on August 21, 2014, 04:15:36 PM

Quote from: clintar link=topic=577267.msg8471705#msg8471705

Just want to be clear here about the aliases. You don't need a pool to create an alias. Just mine a block yourself and set it in the daemon. I'm just offering to make some as a convenience.

that seems a bit of a silly way to do aliases from a practical standpoint... that means there'll only be about 120 thousand total, won't it? i mean, the only coin to have anyone using it on a grand scale right now is bitcoin, but if this one sees adoption in the future, only a % of people will be able to use them, and even then only if they buy or are given one.

not a big concern right now but i dunno why you're required to mine a block to have an alias.

i'll pm you when i get home to set mine up if you're still offering Grin

might be wrong but I'm sure you can create more than one alias per block mined... either way doesn't seem a big deal.

Nop, you can't, i've explained my vision in my prev post.
In block you could register one alias, OR update alias with associating it with different address and comments, to do that you need to prove that you own this alias by signing update message with wallet's secret key. Last feature implemented in core and in unit tests, but not represented in command line yet.

Thanks for clarifying... seems sensible enough.

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Quote from: damashup on August 21, 2014, 04:21:52 PM

Quote from: maxcan on August 21, 2014, 04:15:36 PM

Quote from: clintar link=topic=577267.msg8471705#msg8471705

Just want to be clear here about the aliases. You don't need a pool to create an alias. Just mine a block yourself and set it in the daemon. I'm just offering to make some as a convenience.

that seems a bit of a silly way to do aliases from a practical standpoint... that means there'll only be about 120 thousand total, won't it? i mean, the only coin to have anyone using it on a grand scale right now is bitcoin, but if this one sees adoption in the future, only a % of people will be able to use them, and even then only if they buy or are given one.

not a big concern right now but i dunno why you're required to mine a block to have an alias.

i'll pm you when i get home to set mine up if you're still offering Grin

might be wrong but I'm sure you can create more than one alias per block mined... either way doesn't seem a big deal.

Nop, you can't, i've explained my vision in my prev post.
In block you could register one alias, OR update alias with associating it with different address and comments, to do that you need to prove that you own this alias by signing update message with wallet's secret key. Last feature implemented in core and in unit tests, but not represented in command line yet.

crypto_zoidberg

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Quote from: maxcan on August 21, 2014, 04:15:36 PM

Quote from: clintar link=topic=577267.msg8471705#msg8471705

Just want to be clear here about the aliases. You don't need a pool to create an alias. Just mine a block yourself and set it in the daemon. I'm just offering to make some as a convenience.

that seems a bit of a silly way to do aliases from a practical standpoint... that means there'll only be about 120 thousand total, won't it? i mean, the only coin to have anyone using it on a grand scale right now is bitcoin, but if this one sees adoption in the future, only a % of people will be able to use them, and even then only if they buy or are given one.

not a big concern right now but i dunno why you're required to mine a block to have an alias.

i'll pm you when i get home to set mine up if you're still offering Grin

I see aliased mostly as an option for business in future(like a visit card or for colored coins) and a personal aliases for early adepts or persons who able just to buy it.
When i was thinking about different ways to implement aliases i also considered pratical issue about aliases database size - if i let alias registration very easy - in special transaction for example - than aliases database could be flooded with thousands of senseless aliases, and user would be forced to keep that crap on their computers. So we need predictable amount of possible aliases -> easiest way to tie this with blocks.

So i've decided to have only one alias per block, we have 720 blocks per day - it's 263 520 aliases per year, seems to be a enough and reasonable.

damashup

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Quote from: maxcan on August 21, 2014, 04:15:36 PM

Quote from: clintar link=topic=577267.msg8471705#msg8471705

Just want to be clear here about the aliases. You don't need a pool to create an alias. Just mine a block yourself and set it in the daemon. I'm just offering to make some as a convenience.

that seems a bit of a silly way to do aliases from a practical standpoint... that means there'll only be about 120 thousand total, won't it? i mean, the only coin to have anyone using it on a grand scale right now is bitcoin, but if this one sees adoption in the future, only a % of people will be able to use them, and even then only if they buy or are given one.

not a big concern right now but i dunno why you're required to mine a block to have an alias.

i'll pm you when i get home to set mine up if you're still offering Grin

might be wrong but I'm sure you can create more than one alias per block mined... either way doesn't seem a big deal.

maxcan

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Quote from: clintar link=topic=577267.msg8471705#msg8471705

Just want to be clear here about the aliases. You don't need a pool to create an alias. Just mine a block yourself and set it in the daemon. I'm just offering to make some as a convenience.

that seems a bit of a silly way to do aliases from a practical standpoint... that means there'll only be about 120 thousand total, won't it? i mean, the only coin to have anyone using it on a grand scale right now is bitcoin, but if this one sees adoption in the future, only a % of people will be able to use them, and even then only if they buy or are given one.

not a big concern right now but i dunno why you're required to mine a block to have an alias.

i'll pm you when i get home to set mine up if you're still offering Grin

clintar

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Quote from: drawingthesun on August 21, 2014, 11:06:08 AM

[inflammatory stuff deleted...]
- The Alias system in Nxt is much more powerful, everyone can buy an alias whenever they want, they don't need a pools permission. (By the way I no longer own any Nxt, but can admit to its strengths.)

- iCE, you're a known scammer and drew many people into icedrill losing all their money, it suits you that you're now a BBR advocate.

Just want to be clear here about the aliases. You don't need a pool to create an alias. Just mine a block yourself and set it in the daemon. I'm just offering to make some as a convenience.

Also, not sure what you have against this coin or its community, but could you two send your personal attacks to private messages?

drawingthesun

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on August 20, 2014, 12:34:02 PM

Quote from: drawingthesun on August 20, 2014, 06:37:04 AM

Also alias system? It's a joke compared to Nxt, why even bother with such a second rate system.

Boolberry fudsters are the worst.

Oh look, it's DTS acting the fool as usual. Remember, this is the guy who though Ken's IntelliHash would revolutionize BTC mining...

Nxt? The Rube Goldberg inspired, Java dependent, hot bloated mess of an IPO scam? Please.

Maybe you should buy some Virtual Mining Coins, IntelliCoins, and LabCoins instead. Grin

BBR is a solid and extremely undervalued coin. It will either be the Coke or Pepsi of Cryptonote coins. We're going to the moon with or without you.

You're a total idiot!

- I called Ken out on intellihash and did not believe in that rubbish. I actually built an entire simulation that determined the window in which we could have made money, once this window passed last year I knew it was over and just hoped for something, all the while warning everyone away whilst other shareholders kept lying attempting to attract new blood. Even though I was going through the process of losing all of my money I still maintained integrity and did not sink into a moral abyss to save my ass, unlike you.

- The Alias system in Nxt is much more powerful, everyone can buy an alias whenever they want, they don't need a pools permission. (By the way I no longer own any Nxt, but can admit to its strengths.)

- iCE, you're a known scammer and drew many people into icedrill losing all their money, it suits you that you're now a BBR advocate.

drawingthesun

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Quote from: scroogeMcDuck on August 20, 2014, 01:37:03 PM

Is Boolberry a competitor to Monero or a possible partner coin (like Litecoin is to Bitcoin)? Either way I constantly hear about Monero's bugs and I can't understand why people wouldn't choose Boolberry if it is already implementing a GUI wallet Huh

It's because most of the Monero bugs are actually lies spread by the Bytecoin and Boolberry communities.

dayas

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I have tested and verified we can add aliases at Extremepool.
If you are interested in getting an alias and are mining there let me know I can set that up for you.

It is great to see the pools are finally here and stable, this will be great for this coin.

clintar

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Quote from: maxcan on August 20, 2014, 08:04:57 PM

Quote from: clintar on August 20, 2014, 06:06:36 PM

I'm creating aliases for anyone that wants one for the next while. Let me know and i'll add it to the list at my pool.

sorry if i missed it earlier in the thread, but how exactly do aliases work?

do people get to claim a name ("@maxcan") that works synonymously to their BBR address? why would someone need to give you their alias in that case?

and if not, i don't really see a purpose of having one if payouts are automated and it's just another thing to give to pool owners Huh

It's just a convenience/vanity thing so you can easily send coins to a name instead of remembering the address. You need to find a block to create one, and I have the pool set up to make them. Probably easier than solo mining and making it yourself.

maxcan

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Quote from: clintar on August 20, 2014, 12:52:24 PM

GREAT NEWS!!!

Anyone wanting to mine in a pool, crypto_zoidberg implemented binary scratchpad transfers in boolberry daemon. Reject rate should be under control now. In fact, I haven't seen a reject due to scratchpad updating on my pool since implementing. Accepted percentage has gone up from around 93 to 99 on the few miners I've tested!

1 reject out of 50 so far, but i've only been running for an hour so far. sounds great

Quote from: clintar on August 20, 2014, 06:06:36 PM

I'm creating aliases for anyone that wants one for the next while. Let me know and i'll add it to the list at my pool.

sorry if i missed it earlier in the thread, but how exactly do aliases work?

do people get to claim a name ("@maxcan") that works synonymously to their BBR address? why would someone need to give you their alias in that case?

and if not, i don't really see a purpose of having one if payouts are automated and it's just another thing to give to pool owners Huh

clintar

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I'm creating aliases for anyone that wants one for the next while. Let me know and i'll add it to the list at my pool.

smooth

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Quote from: scroogeMcDuck on August 20, 2014, 01:37:03 PM

Is Boolberry a competitor to Monero or a possible partner coin? Either way I constantly hear about Monero's bugs and I can't understand why people wouldn't choose Boolberry if it is already implementing a GUI wallet Huh

Nobody really knows what is a competitor of what. It is entirely possible that coins will find different niches and not compete directly, but both succeed in some way. It is also possible that one coin will prevail over the another, but for reasons that are hard to know in advance. Alternately it is possible that neither will succeed. Finally it is certainly possible they are direct competitors. Use your own judgement to decide.

Also, one small comment on objectivity and logic. When people make this argument (and someone else made it very recently on this thread) of the form "X therefore I can't understand why Y," the implication is generally that because of X, Y should not happen, but better logic is to say that you observe X and simultaneously observe Y, which contradicts your understanding, therefore your understanding of the relationship between X and Y is likely flawed.

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Is Boolberry a competitor to Monero or a possible partner coin (like Litecoin is to Bitcoin)? Either way I constantly hear about Monero's bugs and I can't understand why people wouldn't choose Boolberry if it is already implementing a GUI wallet Huh

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Quote from: btc-mike on August 20, 2014, 01:11:21 PM

Quote from: slapper on August 20, 2014, 12:50:55 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 20, 2014, 12:05:07 PM

May I ask why do you and by extension some other members of Monero spend so much time in other altcoin threads? Wouldn't the time be better spent coding and enhancing Monero?

I spend a lot of time reading (less posting) other coin's threads. It is usually a good idea to know what your competition is doing.

Constructive posts by anyone are appreciated here. Smooth has remained neutral in his posts and I appreciate his feedback.

I agree. It is why I respect smooth.

fluffypony on the other hand.... Seems othe is also sidetracked of late.....

In my opinion there should not be any "core team" crapping on other people's threads. Sorry now it is getting offtopic and I will take it outside of this thread ...

smooth

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Quote from: btc-mike on August 20, 2014, 01:11:21 PM

Quote from: slapper on August 20, 2014, 12:50:55 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 20, 2014, 12:05:07 PM

May I ask why do you and by extension some other members of Monero spend so much time in other altcoin threads? Wouldn't the time be better spent coding and enhancing Monero?

I spend a lot of time reading (less posting) other coin's threads. It is usually a good idea to know what your competition is doing.

I rarely if ever post about Monero on the BBR thread (or other coin threads) except in direct response when others make incorrect or misleading comments I feel are due a response.

I occasionally post here about other issues such as the design of the PoW, the effect of optimized miners generally on a coin, trading markets, etc. because, aside from being part of the Monero team (and long before being part of the Monero team) I happen to be interested in the design, deployment, and trading of crypto-currencies, and further always interested in improving my understanding of these issue by way of intelligent discussion. Any such posts are my personal opinions.

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Constructive posts by anyone are appreciated here. Smooth has remained neutral in his posts and I appreciate his feedback.

Thank you for this feedback btc-mike.

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Quote from: slapper on August 20, 2014, 12:50:55 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 20, 2014, 12:05:07 PM

May I ask why do you and by extension some other members of Monero spend so much time in other altcoin threads? Wouldn't the time be better spent coding and enhancing Monero?

I spend a lot of time reading (less posting) other coin's threads. It is usually a good idea to know what your competition is doing.

Constructive posts by anyone are appreciated here. Smooth has remained neutral in his posts and I appreciate his feedback.

slapper

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Quote from: smooth on August 20, 2014, 12:57:40 PM

Quote from: slapper on August 20, 2014, 12:50:55 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 20, 2014, 12:05:07 PM

May I ask why do you and by extension some other members of Monero spend so much time in other altcoin threads? Wouldn't the time be better spent coding and enhancing Monero?

This seems pretty off topic for BBR, but the short answer is that we feel both coding and community relations (which includes but is not limited to effective two-way participation on the bitcointalk forums) are extremely important, along with several other functions. We have organized our project to effectively manage all of these.

No it is on topic. If you think you are doing a good job of community relations, you have not been successful. I am known to be acerbic, but I respect you and I will let it go. I will be starting a moderated topic about Monero team members constantly posting in other threads and the impact of it on Monero, in the near future. I think you are grossly underestimating what you are doing.

smooth

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Quote from: slapper on August 20, 2014, 12:50:55 PM

Quote from: smooth on August 20, 2014, 12:05:07 PM

May I ask why do you and by extension some other members of Monero spend so much time in other altcoin threads? Wouldn't the time be better spent coding and enhancing Monero?

This seems pretty off topic for BBR, but the short answer is that we feel both coding and community relations (which includes but is not limited to effective two-way participation on the bitcointalk forums) are extremely important, along with several other functions. We have organized our project to effectively manage all of these.

clintar

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GREAT NEWS!!!

Anyone wanting to mine in a pool, crypto_zoidberg implemented binary scratchpad transfers in boolberry daemon. Reject rate should be under control now. In fact, I haven't seen a reject due to scratchpad updating on my pool since implementing. Accepted percentage has gone up from around 93 to 99 on the few miners I've tested! Because of the better accept rate, I have added a temporarily increased pool fee and temporary core dev fee to pool because of crypto_zoidberg's efforts. Pool fee will be lowered as other pools update, so please update, pool owners!

cncoin.farm, btw

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