Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 326. (Read 1210752 times)
August 28, 2014, 06:22:05 AM
Both coins currently gaining ground, it'll be interesting to see where this goes.
August 28, 2014, 06:16:52 AM
without being in any way disrespectful to you - but do you really think that xmr keeps bbr artificially low? - it does not make sense, even the core developers are supporting bbr as a reasonable hedge for xmr. I would guess that at least half of the xmr investors have also stakes in bbr.
August 28, 2014, 06:13:35 AM
No evidence. Just a hunch I have. I am wrong a lot though, so it could just be my paranoia
Usually if you follow the money, you find some answers. Who gains the most if BBR is gone? When did the price ratio start diverging so much? Why is some major XMR guy actively following a coin not even in the top 100?
No one thing is conclusive. Put together, it shows the possibility of a coherent campaign against BBR to demoralize the community. Now it seems to have succeeded so far. I do have a chunk of BBR, but it is worth just like pocket change to me. XMR keeps attacking, then it will motivate me to help BBR all out of proportion to what it is worth to me.
So the more crap XMR gives BBR, the more it will make me want to help BBR. I approached the XMR guys and other than accusing me of using sockpuppets and that XMR is the work of God, they mostly just ignored me. So they want to pick a fight, then I will fight. If they want to cooperate, then I will cooperate. However, I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
So I am back to where I started my anon escapade, but with a bit more to offer this time around. XMR is not interested in Teleport, but I am thinking that combining teleport with cryptonote is the most powerful anon possible, bar none.
James
P.S. I just anti-dumped and bought back to .00017
Evidence is against 'XMR team' is circumstantial at best. The serious dumping of BBR happened weeks ago. I covered off why I believed it was one 'rogue' miner dumping and why speculating as to who and why is irrelevant and unhelpful.
It's a bear market now for all coins. It only takes a single (minor) player to decide now is the right to to exit and cut losses, to move the price significantly. That is more than likely what happened today.
Equally a relatively minor player can buy some BBR and send the price 'soaring.'
Whether they like it or not XMR and BBR are twinned. There is no way (as things stand) that XMR is going to 'the moon' without investors looking back to see whether BBR is a viable alternative. When they do they'll see it obviously is. The work and consistency of the BBR team speaks for itself. BBR just works. And it's fast. The team get stuff done and don't just procrastinate on what could be done.
Despite the question marks around the coin (some of which I've voiced myself), anyone would be foolish not to recognise BBR as having the potential to be a major player in the anon space. That coupled with the ridiculously low price makes it one of the better coins to invest in at the moment IMO.
you make my case. How can one twin lose 90% of its value naturally?
Unless it is a joke coin (BBR is not), it can do no such thing.
Therefore I conclude that some abnormal situation exists, eg. an attack
I doubt DOGE is attacking BBR. Hmmm, lets see who could it be. Maybe DRK, but I know chaositec and he wouldnt be part of anything like that. So I am not sherlock, but the probability distribution of attack vector has the maximal value centered around XMR.
This is not proof and I apologize if I am wrong. I am wrong a lot. I am a simple C programmer
James
Yes it may be your English... to be clear on what I'm saying:
(1) The case you make for the XMR team having a campaign against BBR that involves 'BTC whales' that support XMR mining BBR (at cost of electricity) and dumping BBR on Poloniex, as part of a cunning plan to attack the coin is... at best... circumstantial.
(2) It is my view, that the fates of Monero and Boolberry (long term) are twinned. I.e. I cannot see XMR succeeding without BBR benefiting from that success and vice versa. Yes there is divergence now. However that can happen in a bear market also it is very early days for both coins. Both coins have very high emission rates at the moment. Once the emission rate decreases significantly (in say a year or 18 months) you've have a truer picture of the relative values of the coins to each other - if they are still around. Long term, looking at the merits of both coins, they are twinned in my view.
PS - I don't think anyone would be naive enough to try to 'dump' BBR to death. All they will do is make early BBR adopters rich at their own expense. The only reason to do this would be to try to dishearten the BBE dev team. So far the BBR team seem unaffected by today's price which suggest they see the bigger picture/ potential of their coin. So if that is someone strategy (which I doubt), it is failing miserably!
August 28, 2014, 06:05:32 AM
I let the NXT peoples know also
At least BBR is back to the first page of coinmarketcap
The decline of BBR is over. There is no reason that it should have lost 90% of value, so the first step is to get BBR back to where it was. Then, well, I need to talk to zoidberg first.
First things first. Let the dumpers dump, we will buy.
James
P.S. I also asked some press contact to make some good press for BBR, but I cannot control the result of that
At least BBR is back to the first page of coinmarketcap
The decline of BBR is over. There is no reason that it should have lost 90% of value, so the first step is to get BBR back to where it was. Then, well, I need to talk to zoidberg first.
First things first. Let the dumpers dump, we will buy.
James
P.S. I also asked some press contact to make some good press for BBR, but I cannot control the result of that
The recent dumping has been co-ordinated and wholly unnecessary. It's surely the work of someone, or a team of people who wanted the price to be driven into the ground. It's plain to see there is potential here.
It's good to see you and springfield here involved in this project. I hope zoidberg will give you a warm welcome and a go ahead to build this ecosystem upwards, instead of an arrogant dismissal seen which has been seen elsewhere.
August 28, 2014, 06:03:46 AM
BBR currently on its 24hr high. Go Boolberry 
August 28, 2014, 06:00:49 AM
I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
Who told you that and where? I'd love to have you onboard XMR and probably a lot of other people too.
I am a positive energy guy, not much for such "kill the enemy" attitude. I know, I know, they arent part of the official XMR team. But they are a big part of the XMR community and really what is the difference.
Also, I dont even know who the actual devs of XMR are, while zoidberg has always been quite helpful and was helping me
If the hostilities against BBR stop and it is allowed to grow naturally, then I will be open to working with XMR.
James
P.S. I know you will say that there is nothing you can do about the attacks because you are not doing them. To that I will respond that as long as poor little BBR is being attacked, regardless of who is attacking, I will feel compelled to help it out and wont have time for XMR.
I understand and respect your feelings. I hope the attacks will stop as the community grows. It easily gets a little inbred I think. Too few people with too high stakes.
Cryptonote had a very bad start with all the fuzz around the (presumed) scam with BCN. Maybe this has set the tone a little, but I think the community will outgrow it eventually as the tech gains adoption. No one outside the hardcore cryptocommunity really gives a rat ass which coin wins as long as they can use it.
I wish you good luck and also I hope the XMR-community gains a little more friendly attitude towards you, not only because I own some XMR and want you on our side. (I also own a smaller, but equivalent in numbers stack of BBR)
If I were you I would convert some XMR into BBR and then you can always convert back if you still want to
BBR can easily go 10x, but XMR will have a hard time doubling.
August 28, 2014, 05:58:26 AM
I let the NXT peoples know also
At least BBR is back to the first page of coinmarketcap
The decline of BBR is over. There is no reason that it should have lost 90% of value, so the first step is to get BBR back to where it was. Then, well, I need to talk to zoidberg first.
First things first. Let the dumpers dump, we will buy.
James
P.S. I also asked some press contact to make some good press for BBR, but I cannot control the result of that
At least BBR is back to the first page of coinmarketcap
The decline of BBR is over. There is no reason that it should have lost 90% of value, so the first step is to get BBR back to where it was. Then, well, I need to talk to zoidberg first.
First things first. Let the dumpers dump, we will buy.
James
P.S. I also asked some press contact to make some good press for BBR, but I cannot control the result of that
August 28, 2014, 05:49:23 AM
I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
Who told you that and where? I'd love to have you onboard XMR and probably a lot of other people too.
I am a positive energy guy, not much for such "kill the enemy" attitude. I know, I know, they arent part of the official XMR team. But they are a big part of the XMR community and really what is the difference.
Also, I dont even know who the actual devs of XMR are, while zoidberg has always been quite helpful and was helping me
If the hostilities against BBR stop and it is allowed to grow naturally, then I will be open to working with XMR.
James
P.S. I know you will say that there is nothing you can do about the attacks because you are not doing them. To that I will respond that as long as poor little BBR is being attacked, regardless of who is attacking, I will feel compelled to help it out and wont have time for XMR.
I understand and respect your feelings. I hope the attacks will stop as the community grows. It easily gets a little inbred I think. Too few people with too high stakes.
Cryptonote had a very bad start with all the fuzz around the (presumed) scam with BCN. Maybe this has set the tone a little, but I think the community will outgrow it eventually as the tech gains adoption. No one outside the hardcore cryptocommunity really gives a rat ass which coin wins as long as they can use it.
I wish you good luck and also I hope the XMR-community gains a little more friendly attitude towards you, not only because I own some XMR and want you on our side. (I also own a smaller, but equivalent in numbers stack of BBR)
August 28, 2014, 05:42:27 AM
Hello BBR,
A cryptonote coin partnering with BTCD will make the best anon solution out there.
I'll be chiming in from now on.
Regards,
Springfield
EDIT: let's kill this price suppressing whale who has been plagueing BBR for months, we got the buying power to make him eat his stupid antics
nice to see you here!A cryptonote coin partnering with BTCD will make the best anon solution out there.
I'll be chiming in from now on.
Regards,
Springfield
EDIT: let's kill this price suppressing whale who has been plagueing BBR for months, we got the buying power to make him eat his stupid antics
Likewise Sir
August 28, 2014, 05:40:47 AM
Hello BBR,
A cryptonote coin partnering with BTCD will make the best anon solution out there.
I'll be chiming in from now on.
Regards,
Springfield
EDIT: let's kill this price suppressing whale who has been plagueing BBR for months, we got the buying power to make him eat his stupid antics
nice to see you here!A cryptonote coin partnering with BTCD will make the best anon solution out there.
I'll be chiming in from now on.
Regards,
Springfield
EDIT: let's kill this price suppressing whale who has been plagueing BBR for months, we got the buying power to make him eat his stupid antics
August 28, 2014, 05:39:57 AM
No evidence. Just a hunch I have. I am wrong a lot though, so it could just be my paranoia
Usually if you follow the money, you find some answers. Who gains the most if BBR is gone? When did the price ratio start diverging so much? Why is some major XMR guy actively following a coin not even in the top 100?
No one thing is conclusive. Put together, it shows the possibility of a coherent campaign against BBR to demoralize the community. Now it seems to have succeeded so far. I do have a chunk of BBR, but it is worth just like pocket change to me. XMR keeps attacking, then it will motivate me to help BBR all out of proportion to what it is worth to me.
So the more crap XMR gives BBR, the more it will make me want to help BBR. I approached the XMR guys and other than accusing me of using sockpuppets and that XMR is the work of God, they mostly just ignored me. So they want to pick a fight, then I will fight. If they want to cooperate, then I will cooperate. However, I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
So I am back to where I started my anon escapade, but with a bit more to offer this time around. XMR is not interested in Teleport, but I am thinking that combining teleport with cryptonote is the most powerful anon possible, bar none.
James
P.S. I just anti-dumped and bought back to .00017
Evidence is against 'XMR team' is circumstantial at best. The serious dumping of BBR happened weeks ago. I covered off why I believed it was one 'rogue' miner dumping and why speculating as to who and why is irrelevant and unhelpful.
It's a bear market now for all coins. It only takes a single (minor) player to decide now is the right to to exit and cut losses, to move the price significantly. That is more than likely what happened today.
Equally a relatively minor player can buy some BBR and send the price 'soaring.'
Whether they like it or not XMR and BBR are twinned. There is no way (as things stand) that XMR is going to 'the moon' without investors looking back to see whether BBR is a viable alternative. When they do they'll see it obviously is. The work and consistency of the BBR team speaks for itself. BBR just works. And it's fast. The team get stuff done and don't just procrastinate on what could be done.
Despite the question marks around the coin (some of which I've voiced myself), anyone would be foolish not to recognise BBR as having the potential to be a major player in the anon space. That coupled with the ridiculously low price makes it one of the better coins to invest in at the moment IMO.
you make my case. How can one twin lose 90% of its value naturally?
Unless it is a joke coin (BBR is not), it can do no such thing.
Therefore I conclude that some abnormal situation exists, eg. an attack
I doubt DOGE is attacking BBR. Hmmm, lets see who could it be. Maybe DRK, but I know chaositec and he wouldnt be part of anything like that. So I am not sherlock, but the probability distribution of attack vector has the maximal value centered around XMR.
This is not proof and I apologize if I am wrong. I am wrong a lot. I am a simple C programmer
James
August 28, 2014, 05:37:34 AM
Hello BBR,
A cryptonote coin partnering with BTCD will make the best anon solution out there.
I'll be chiming in from now on.
Regards,
Springfield
EDIT: let's kill this price suppressing whale who has been plagueing BBR for months, we got the buying power to make him eat his stupid antics
A cryptonote coin partnering with BTCD will make the best anon solution out there.
I'll be chiming in from now on.
Regards,
Springfield
EDIT: let's kill this price suppressing whale who has been plagueing BBR for months, we got the buying power to make him eat his stupid antics
August 28, 2014, 05:36:48 AM
I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
Who told you that and where? I'd love to have you onboard XMR and probably a lot of other people too.
I am a positive energy guy, not much for such "kill the enemy" attitude. I know, I know, they arent part of the official XMR team. But they are a big part of the XMR community and really what is the difference.
Also, I dont even know who the actual devs of XMR are, while zoidberg has always been quite helpful and was helping me
If the hostilities against BBR stop and it is allowed to grow naturally, then I will be open to working with XMR.
James
P.S. I know you will say that there is nothing you can do about the attacks because you are not doing them. To that I will respond that as long as poor little BBR is being attacked, regardless of who is attacking, I will feel compelled to help it out and wont have time for XMR.
August 28, 2014, 05:29:16 AM
No evidence. Just a hunch I have. I am wrong a lot though, so it could just be my paranoia
Usually if you follow the money, you find some answers. Who gains the most if BBR is gone? When did the price ratio start diverging so much? Why is some major XMR guy actively following a coin not even in the top 100?
No one thing is conclusive. Put together, it shows the possibility of a coherent campaign against BBR to demoralize the community. Now it seems to have succeeded so far. I do have a chunk of BBR, but it is worth just like pocket change to me. XMR keeps attacking, then it will motivate me to help BBR all out of proportion to what it is worth to me.
So the more crap XMR gives BBR, the more it will make me want to help BBR. I approached the XMR guys and other than accusing me of using sockpuppets and that XMR is the work of God, they mostly just ignored me. So they want to pick a fight, then I will fight. If they want to cooperate, then I will cooperate. However, I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
So I am back to where I started my anon escapade, but with a bit more to offer this time around. XMR is not interested in Teleport, but I am thinking that combining teleport with cryptonote is the most powerful anon possible, bar none.
James
P.S. I just anti-dumped and bought back to .00017
Evidence is against 'XMR team' is circumstantial at best. The serious dumping of BBR happened weeks ago. I covered off why I believed it was one 'rogue' miner dumping and why speculating as to who and why is irrelevant and unhelpful.
It's a bear market now for all coins. It only takes a single (minor) player to decide now is the right to to exit and cut losses, to move the price significantly. That is more than likely what happened today.
Equally a relatively minor player can buy some BBR and send the price 'soaring.'
Whether they like it or not XMR and BBR are twinned. There is no way (as things stand) that XMR is going to 'the moon' without investors looking back to see whether BBR is a viable alternative. When they do they'll see it obviously is. The work and consistency of the BBR team speaks for itself. BBR just works. And it's fast. The team get stuff done and don't just procrastinate on what could be done.
Despite the question marks around the coin (some of which I've voiced myself), anyone would be foolish not to recognise BBR as having the potential to be a major player in the anon space. That coupled with the ridiculously low price makes it one of the better coins to invest in at the moment IMO.
August 28, 2014, 05:27:32 AM
I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
Who told you that and where? I'd love to have you onboard XMR and probably a lot of other people too.
August 28, 2014, 05:17:18 AM
I sent out some messages to get BBR some buy support
August 28, 2014, 04:57:53 AM
XMR keeps attacking
Actually it is just me attacking I think, I should probably stop.
P.S. I just anti-dumped and bought back to .00017
Thanks.
Why is some major XMR guy actively following a coin not even in the top 100?
I'm certainly not a major XMR guy, I just have far too much free time after work.
I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
If true then that is a shame, you think outside of the box and they could do with people like you.
August 28, 2014, 04:55:28 AM
So the more crap XMR gives BBR, the more it will make me want to help BBR. I approached the XMR guys and other than accusing me of using sockpuppets and that XMR is the work of God, they mostly just ignored me. So they want to pick a fight, then I will fight. If they want to cooperate, then I will cooperate. However, I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
Also note that I am not apart of the Monero team at all.
August 28, 2014, 04:52:57 AM
So the more crap XMR gives BBR, the more it will make me want to help BBR. I approached the XMR guys and other than accusing me of using sockpuppets and that XMR is the work of God, they mostly just ignored me. So they want to pick a fight, then I will fight. If they want to cooperate, then I will cooperate. However, I was told quite plainly that I am not smart enough to be able to offer them anything of value.
Also note that I am not apart of the Monero team at all.
August 28, 2014, 04:51:05 AM
Is it a coincidence that after I make positive statement some big daily dump happens?
I have no idea, it doesn't really concern me, the only thing that concerns me is this odd saying that Boolberry is more advanced than Monero, when I see the changes as being too quick and requiring more thought.
Why are you so threatened by BBR? It makes me think that XMR camp is still scared of BBR. Why else are you still monitoring this thread and dumping on polo to counter any positivity that I might have said?
People in this thread are wondering why their superior coin is dropping like a rock in water. Well the reason is that it's not superior and everyone that continues to push this myth are in fact market manipulating, probably hoping some big player believes it all and pumps up their Boolberries for them.
Leave BBR alone. You made your point. XMR has big BTC whales that can afford to use their old mining gear to mine most of the BBR and dump it to cost of electricity. The more you abuse BBR, the more I feel sorry for it and want to help. It is like you are torturing a small puppy. Stop these daily dumps.
I'm not dumping.
I offer peace and cooperation to XMR. I hope you will just leave us alone. fiat is the enemy not the other cryptos.
I'll admit one thing, it's wrong for me to keep coming in here and I'll try not to do this again, I just am tired of this Boolberry is the best and most advanced cryptonote coin chatter that keeps going on.
I understand you all want you're investment in Boolberries to pay off, but I see the talk of how superior bbr is similar to attracting noobs like a fly to a light.
I'll do my best to make any other boolberry posts constructive.
also take a look at: https://www.poloniex.com/exchange/btc_bbr
The biggest dump today, wait, the biggest dump in 10 days happens right after I post some nice things about BBR.
I am sure it is just coincidence. Care to calculate the odds of this timing combined with you also appearing.
Of course you are not monitoring this thread. Of course you are not in any way connected to the daily dumper or this massive dump. Of course you are not operating with instructions to counter any and all positive anything about BBR.
You are just here because?
James
P.S. Since my positive statements about BBR upset you so much, how about this. I, jl777, personally like BBR source code the most of all the cryptonote coins and I am just a simple C programmer. Does that offend you too? Am I not allowed to have a personal opinion? Do I need to clear all my statements about what code bases I like with XMR headquarters?
I can assure you I am not dumping.
Also I follow a lot of threads, I only really replied here because people are complaining about bbr price whilst other people are saying how it'll recover because bbr is a superior coin.
Here is a question, what if bbr isn't actually superior and this chatter causes people to invest too much in "cheap" bbr? Only for it to go a lot "cheaper"?
Some would say I am super paranoid, I have lost so much money in the past that I am now hyper paranoid about losing money. I realize that even if Monero is backed by a great team and a great investor base, well respected users could erode Monero by driving money and confidence to another coin, this is why I follow lots of coins, some of those coins shouldn't post an economic threat but do, and others could pose a technical threat (Ethereum for example).
Anyway, I am actually over paranoid about this stuff and people should regard my actions as the actions of a crazy person who thinks every other coin is going to ruin Monero.
One thing is for sure, I should play nice.
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