Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy - page 16.

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Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 06:52:38 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 06:47:51 AM

ok so you have destroyed my bitcointalk account becouse i accused you of lying ?

accusation was becouse you have said twice to curiousminer that he has not order anything from you (he was not at your records)

so my lies are consequence of your responses to him wchich turned out to be false
(due to your travelling, not taking group buy secret private list with you)

your statement about traveling was after i submited "lie"

so how it can be lie if i had no full information? should i have crystall ball ?

please remove your trust rating from my profile, becouse my lies were based of false information you have provided.

thanks.

Again off topic. You lied through PM and public posting's. You made accusations that where not backed by any factual evidence. That i deem to be slanderous to my profile. You then went and posted them outside of this thread spamming my apparent "scam". I will not remove the feedback. In future if you don't have full information against someone don't make accusations.

i got full information you have provided.
you have twice informed curiousminer that he has not ordered anything.
screen from pm inbox/outbox is factual evidence.

please tell me where i am wrong ?

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 06:47:51 AM

ok so you have destroyed my bitcointalk account becouse i accused you of lying ?

accusation was becouse you have said twice to curiousminer that he has not order anything from you (he was not at your records)

so my lies are consequence of your responses to him wchich turned out to be false
(due to your travelling, not taking group buy secret private list with you)

your statement about traveling was after i submited "lie"

so how it can be lie if i had no full information? should i have crystall ball ?

please remove your trust rating from my profile, becouse my lies were based of false information you have provided.

thanks.

Again off topic. You lied through PM and public posting's. You made accusations that where not backed by any factual evidence. That i deem to be slanderous to my profile. You then went and posted them outside of this thread spamming my apparent "scam". I will not remove the feedback. In future if you don't have full information against someone don't make accusations.

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ok so you have destroyed my bitcointalk account becouse i accused you of lying ?

accusation was becouse you have said twice to curiousminer that he has not order anything from you (he was not at your records)

so my lies are consequence of your responses to him wchich turned out to be false
(due to your travelling, not taking group buy secret private list with you)

your statement about traveling was after i submited "lie"

so how it can be lie if i had no full information? should i have crystall ball ?

please remove your trust rating from my profile, becouse my lies were based of false information you have provided.

thanks.

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 06:26:18 AM

Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 06:15:44 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 06:10:58 AM

so all your statements send by pm to curiousminer are false becouse you were not at home?
Huh

twice?
at april and july?

They only pertain to the publicly available records as already stated.

i dont care about those photos of miners. you have been denying that he ordered anything.
this is a fact.

The photo's prove that his miners are sitting here waiting to be shipped thus this whole accusation based on a lie. I originally stated he was not on the public list. It has also been stated that this happened because his details where incomplete

please remove trust feedback from my profile.

No, since it is valid

your accusations of me lying are based on some imaginary secret list wchich you dont check answering to people requests, becouse you are not at home.

I don't travel with the documents pertaining to the group buy. You are also making another false accusation.

Please answer these facts

The facts are:
He ordered and whilst doing so accepted the rules
His order was submitted to the manufacturer on the 7th making his order valid
His order of 5 chip devices is sitting here waiting to ship.

if you answering tell that you are not sure becouse you are at travel. you didnt. twice. how curiousminer could know about you travelling?

1 yes
2 yes

3 if yes, so why instead of asking for adres signature you have not asked about shipping address, order transfer etc?

you havent helped him
he asked you multiple times to get refund, you were ignoring his pms emails, denying that he has order anything.

why you behaved like that?

regarding feedback,
so you will not remove false feedback due to fact that you are traveling? wtf?
can you explain that closer?

3 is also yes. And since they are all yes that means you don't have any reason for this accusation.
I didn't deny he had ordered anything i was wondering why he was not publicly listed again we have found the reason for that.

The feedback is off topic to this thread. But my answer is no. My feedback has nothing to do with me being away from home it has to do with your lies and false accusations and attempts to discredit my name in this thread and in others.

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Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 06:15:44 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 06:10:58 AM

so all your statements send by pm to curiousminer are false becouse you were not at home?
Huh

twice?
at april and july?

i dont care about those photos of miners. you have been denying that he ordered anything.
this is a fact.

The photo's prove that his miners are sitting here waiting to be shipped thus this whole accusation based on a lie. I originally stated he was not on the public list. It has also been stated that this happened because his details where incomplete

please remove trust feedback from my profile.

No, since it is valid

your accusations of me lying are based on some imaginary secret list wchich you dont check answering to people requests, becouse you are not at home.

I don't travel with the documents pertaining to the groupbuy

Please answer these facts

The facts are:
He ordered and whilst doing so accepted the rules
His order was submitted to the manufacturer on the 7th making his order valid
His order of 5 chip devices is sitting here waiting to ship.

if you answering tell that you are not sure becouse you are at travel. you didnt. twice. how curiousminer could know about you travelling?

1 yes
2 yes

3 if yes, so why instead of asking for adres signature you have not asked about shipping address, order transfer etc?

you havent helped him
he asked you multiple times to get refund, you were ignoring his pms emails, denying that he has order anything.

why you behaved like that?

regarding feedback,
so you will not remove false feedback due to fact that you are traveling? wtf?
can you explain that closer?

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 06:10:58 AM

so all your statements send by pm to curiousminer are false becouse you were not at home?
Huh

twice?
at april and july?

They only pertain to the publicly available records as already stated.

i dont care about those photos of miners. you have been denying that he ordered anything.
this is a fact.

The photo's prove that his miners are sitting here waiting to be shipped thus this whole accusation based on a lie. I originally stated he was not on the public list. It has also been stated that this happened because his details where incomplete

please remove trust feedback from my profile.

No, since it is valid

your accusations of me lying are based on some imaginary secret list wchich you dont check answering to people requests, becouse you are not at home.

I don't travel with the documents pertaining to the group buy. You are also making another false accusation.

Please answer these facts

The facts are:
He ordered and whilst doing so accepted the rules
His order was submitted to the manufacturer on the 7th making his order valid
His order of 5 chip devices is sitting here waiting to ship.

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so all your statements send by pm to curiousminer are false becouse you were not at home?
Huh

twice?
at april and july?

i dont care about those photos of miners. you have been denying that he ordered anything.
this is a fact.

please remove trust feedback from my profile.

your accusations of me lying are based on some imaginary secret list wchich you dont check answering to people requests, becouse you are not at home.

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 05:40:14 AM

Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 05:38:46 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 05:37:43 AM

all my lies are related to your secret private list

you said to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything.

i said that you have not ordered goods for him becouse you were denying that he is on your records.

so where i lied?

tell me. i dont understand this.

That is a perfect example.

here is perfect example of your scam

http://i57.tinypic.com/20s9dog.png

Also just to prove his order is sitting here:

Interestingly you keep repeating the same accusation with the same debunked evidence.

I will again quote the reason this picture makes no difference

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The reason I asked at the time was because I was not at home and thus could not check my documents meaning all I could look at was the public list. It became apparent why he was not listed publicly when I looked at my own documentation he failed to complete his information.

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Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 05:38:46 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 05:37:43 AM

all my lies are related to your secret private list

you said to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything.

i said that you have not ordered goods for him becouse you were denying that he is on your records.

so where i lied?

tell me. i dont understand this.

That is a perfect example.

here is perfect example of your scam

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 05:37:43 AM

all my lies are related to your secret private list

you said to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything.

i said that you have not ordered goods for him becouse you were denying that he is on your records.

so where i lied?

tell me. i dont understand this.

That is a perfect example.

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all my lies are related to your secret private list

you said to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything.

i said that you have not ordered goods for him becouse you were denying that he is on your records.

so where i lied?

tell me. i dont understand this.

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 05:20:15 AM

Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 05:09:44 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 04:49:36 AM

can you qoute my slanderous lie?

i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.

where is my lie?

Ok.

Claiming that i don't have a private list.

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but he behaved like little rat. he is now telling tales that devices were already ordered...

This was proved to be true. You claimed it wasn't. A lie.

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"he lied that he has his miners sealed"

Sent via PM

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lying that you have ordered goods

That was proven false

Sent via PM

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i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,

That was again proven to be a lie fabricated to mislead people.

So those are the lies i was able to compile in 10 minutes.

have i spammed your threads with this qoutes?
you just getting them from private correspondence between you and me?

my only "lie" is fact that i have qouted your answers to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything
, answers based on your records.

but you have double records, one public one private.

so where is my fabricated lie?

All quotes are made by you either in this thread or via pm. Denying it just proves you are untrustworthy. The first quote is from post #16 in this thread.
The second quote is from post #48 in this thread. The third quote is from a pm dated July 22, 2014, 09:40:21 AM. The fourth quote is from a pm dated July 22, 2014, 10:46:07 AM. Those are all slanderous accusations that are not true.

It is also interesting you didn't quote the part that links to you spamming another thread. Why?

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Quote from: Beastlymac on July 29, 2014, 05:09:44 AM

Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 04:49:36 AM

can you qoute my slanderous lie?

i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.

where is my lie?

Ok.

Claiming that i don't have a private list.

Quote

but he behaved like little rat. he is now telling tales that devices were already ordered...

This was proved to be true. You claimed it wasn't. A lie.

Quote

"he lied that he has his miners sealed"

Sent via PM

Quote

lying that you have ordered goods

That was proven false

Sent via PM

Quote

i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,

That was again proven to be a lie fabricated to mislead people.

So those are the lies i was able to compile in 10 minutes.

have i spammed your threads with this qoutes?
you just getting them from private correspondence between you and me?

my only "lie" is fact that i have qouted your answers to curiousminer that he have not ordered anything
, answers based on your records.

but you have double records, one public one private.

so where is my fabricated lie?

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Quote from: bbxx on July 29, 2014, 04:49:36 AM

can you qoute my slanderous lie?

i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.

where is my lie?

Ok.

Claiming that i don't have a private list.

Quote

but he behaved like little rat. he is now telling tales that devices were already ordered...

This was proved to be true. You claimed it wasn't. A lie.

Quote

"he lied that he has his miners sealed"

Sent via PM

Quote

lying that you have ordered goods

That was proven false

Sent via PM

Quote

i dont care you have sent order or not. (it was after he asked about refund). he has not ordered items,

That was again proven to be a lie fabricated to mislead people.

So those are the lies i was able to compile in 10 minutes.

They where made in an attempt to discredit my account and past business relations and are thus slanderous the spamming related to you posting them off topic in other threads (for example here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/psa-self-moderated-group-buys-are-999-scams-707786) including one of my sales threads. That post has since been deleted.

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can you qoute my slanderous lie?

i posted facts that you were denying that curiousminer ordered anything.

where is my lie?

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Please re read the feedback that i have left you. All of your apparent "facts" have been debunked yet you keep claiming them to be true. The feedback that i and others left on your account and your brothers account is my opinion and is the truth. The risked btc amount was updated and represents 0 not 3.1. You have actually represented mostly here say based of little knowledge. You seem to state that he should get a refund i ask that you again read through the rules of the group buy and look at the payment date that alone invalidates this whole claim. Your account says "Warning: Trade with extreme caution!" no where did i say you scammed me. I said "Spamming threads with slanderous lies" and that is true.

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my brother was attempting to get money back.
within 5 months Beastlymac neither send btc back neither ship miners
my brother aksed me to help.
i have presented whole case here, only facts.

the fact is beastly was denying that he curiousminer has order anything.
finally beastly asked to send email to him, wcich he never responded.
please check screenshoots.

after long battle instead refunding money he found another excuse, secret list of orders, on wchich there is only curiousminer with no shipping address.

he never informed cruiousminer that his miners are ready to ship, istead he was asking about adres signining etc.

he stated at group buy that miners will be shipped 13 feb
the group buy turned to be a failure, some people got no miners until may,
he closed thread to finish case but others asked admins to reopen it.

some of people got trust ruined, not only me my brother but other ones, look at beastlymac feedback.

i had perfect hero member account marked as scammer now becouse beastly thinks that i have scammed him (riskied sum 3.1btc)

in fact i only was helping my brother to get his money back.

that is very sad. and unfair.

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