Topic: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy - page 17. (Read 17715 times)

Please, if it's not too much, can you just sum it all up for me? I am very tired ATM but also very interested. Did this dispute ever get resolved? Is the OP an Alt of BBXX?

Yes you will need to read through all the posts time consuming I know but it will give you the best understanding on what has actually happened. Also the feedback I left is nothing but the truth.

And this ladies and gentlemen is why the trust rating is a bucket of shit, there goes a Senior account, bye bye.

Lol

gimme some time to catch up on whats happened, BACK TO PAGE ONE!

TL;DR

From OP though, i did see that BeastlyMac was at fault, but please do note that all i read was the OP

Bbxx I have tried my hardest to resolve this issue with you and you have not been forthcoming all you have done is accuse me of false accusations such a the one stating that I do not have his order (a lie) that he had asked for a refund before his order was submitted (another lie). I have been truthful and honest through this whole situation. I now ask another time please have your brother provide his postage details and refund details as per the request made in this thread via pm to me so that this ordeal can end. I was not denying that he ordered from me I was just asking why he was not on the public list. I was able to go through my records and find the reason. It was because of an error or purposeful decision to withhold information regarding his order. Everyone has read your "proof" they have also read the information that I have provided showing that your brother's refund request was after his order had been submitted to the manufacturer and thus he is unable to be granted a refund. It is stated in the thread and those where the terms he agreed to upon his purchase of the devices through my groupbuy. That has been the way I did the gridseed, U1 and other groupbuys. For that reason I am sorry but I have to deny the refund for the 5 chip devices. I would request the details that I require for completion of this issue be submitted to me promptly so that this can be solved.

Regards, Beastlymac

no. i was not close to close this case with 66% loss due to errors at beastly side.
please read pm conversation from screenshoots.
beastly was denying that curiousminer ordered anything from him.
finally he found secret list and result is as you see.

what error he did?
he asked for refund only, multiple times.
you were answering that he has not ordered anything from you.

finally asked for help from me.
you found your hidden record with his order and you want to ship it after 5 months of battle.

is it fair?

bbxx - just a few posts ago it seemed you were ready to close this issue with the refund of the 1BTC and receiving the devices (your brother actually) already paid for. By this post alone I want to say that english isn't your first language... therefore it's possible that this is a result of a communication breakdown. It's unfortunate that your brother lost out, but that happens a lot in this scene - heck, I waited 4 months to get 10 GPUs because of demand.

The only suggestion I have to you now is just to accept the refund of 1BTC and the devices already paid for. Beastlymac has answered all of your questions, my questions and any others posted here thoroughly.

You have not proved anything that he is not on my private list because it is impossible for you to do so. If I where to pay for it it would not be because of my errors it would be an error on your brothers part and an attempt to extort money out of me. You keep attempting to discredit me without any actual proof. I apologies that the time difference means that when I receive messages from you and your brother occurs when I am not at home. I do not spend all my day at home. It is not a tale it is the truth. Everyone that ordered was listed privately and completed ready for shipping orders where listed publicly. It is your brothers fault that he was not listed publicly.

you said that you have not him at your record.
how he could think that he is on your private record?

this time you were at home? or again you were not and checked only public one?
this tale cannot be used twice.

please pay for your errors, be a man.

Thank you for your response and help in the attempts to resolve this.


This was already answered and it doesn't prove anything about my private record only the public one and the reason your brother was not listed on them has also been explained. To prove I am not telling the truth you would need to obtain the private file.

Here.

here you are
look at he bottom of the screen
you have stated that he is not at your records 3 weeks ago
please refund and clear feedback as you have promised above

thanks

bbxx, I think this is sound advice and you should heed to it. From what I can tell, this it was just a misunderstanding, possible due to the different orders, possibly due a communication barrier? Beastlymac seems pretty reasonable... perhaps you guys can work out something to restore your trust level. I can't think of any reason why the feedback you received is unwarranted, but hopefully you guys can come to some type of agreement.

Beastlymac - I absolutely applaud you for handling this accusation with tact. All questions answered and thoroughly. But for whatever its worth, if I had a dispute with a member, I'd like for it to be handled like this - professionally.

I have already answered all of that. You claimed that your brothers order was submitted after he asked for a refund. I proved that to be a lie. I also already answered about the verification please read through my responses that already answer all of these questions. So you accept the fact that curiousminer asked for a refund after his order had been submitted for manufacturing?


If you can prove that he is not on my private records as of this date by providing real factual evidence then I will.

You have confirmed that curiousminer is at your records and refund is not possible.

if i will get proof that he was not at your records  will you refund him?

Any comment at this?

please tell first where i had fabricaded anything


only i said that group buy was closed at early march.

where i claimed that order was not submitted at 7th of feb?

about photo and id, you said you want it becouse somebody suggested it to you?
he already said that signing message is enough,
refund this 1 btc to his address and we will sort the rest.

thanks

For orders that had not yet been fulfilled so that does not include your brothers order that had already been shipped at the period of time that this happened as he was in the first wave. Yes for orders that had not yet been shipped the manufacturer offered a refund. Some people accepted it and they where given a refund. It was already stated in the thread. Your brother's order had already been fulfilled at that point in time. So going back to the thread. An order that has been submitted to the manufacturer and is being processed or it fulfilled can not be refunded. People who had orders refunded had not been fulfilled and the manufacturer offered a refund for their orders and I passed it on. I assume that makes me a scammer for refunding people who where eligible and not for your brother who's order was already fulfilled?

Meaning refunds where offered for people who had not already had orders fulfilled eg the manufacturer hadn't shipped their miners directly to them or to me. Allowing them the option of getting their money back after a large period of issues.

Meaning the whole refund situation that happened does not apply to your brother.

Beastlymac,

please answer, did you get refund from manufacturer?

have you refunded btc to people submited refund request after 7.02.2014?

thanks

1) 0
2) did I receive compensation? No
3) If I receive compensation it will be paid out.
4) Account ruined? How so?
5) Everyone received units. Delays did occur and I did my best to speed up the order even using my own funds to speed up the delivery and delays
6) You have decided to make yourself part of the trade by associating with your brother and saying that everything related to the deal should be done through you. I don't think that you should be associated with the deal so I updated my feedback but it is still true.

I did my best to get the manufacturer to ship out as quickly as he could. If you would like to reference my positive feedback also for the same groupbuy?

Compensation for the second wave of orders (that I was able to control) was given via extra peripherals cables that where required for starting up the device that where not originally included by the manufacturer. This was done to speed up the process and allow people to get mining ASAP. This personally cost me a little over $1500 out of my own pocket including the extra payments required to speed up getting the miners.



For the single chips




Then you can also look at the blue fury devices. Although they where also late because of manufacturing issues we shipped out 600btc worth of them and also provided icefury units as compensation for damaged devices.

As i was sure you are redirecting discussion away from scamming curiousminer.

Please answer my questions


1. how many people you have cheated?
2. have you get any compensation from manufacturer wchich delayed gridseeds wihin 3 months?
3. have you paid any part of compensation to group buy participants?
4. how many people got accounts ruined instead? (i know that is 3 or more)
5. there are some at your profile untrusted feedback, are you going to ressolve their cases?
6. i havent had any trade with you, why you put at my profile untrusted feedback (riskied amount 3.1BTC) ?


about compensation question:

Quote from: Lathanium on 30-04-2014, 05:02:09
You really think that we are going to get compensation?  He probably took a hit having to re-order from 2 other sources for us.  Hes done with this group buy as he already tried to close the thread.

Do I think we are going to get compensation? Probably not.

Did he promise it? Yes:

Quote from: Beastlymac on 24-03-2014, 02:48:47
For the orders that are locked in for shipping they will ship out this week and buyers will be given compensation.

one of group buy participants who is scammed


Quote from: Beastlymac on 13-03-2014, 02:06:18
Messages responded to. Refunds sent also.
I will be refunding more later. For people who had to fix some issues please send them through when you can and i will get your order refunded when i get back online.

Mr. Jinx:
Hello Beastlymac, are you back online?
I've just pm'ed you (again) with all the information you will possibly need.
I'm really waiting for the refund!


03-05-2014, 18:46:50   
 Mr. Jinx #762
Received my incomplete order today.
Just 10 gridseeds with some cables.
Controller, power supply and usb hub missing.
Great Angry


He was marked as untrusted by beastlymac, becouse he was waiting 90+ days for ordered miners.