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June 17, 2021, 01:09:46 PM
Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
When it comes to poker games it's a bit tricky. Developing technique to remain unpredictable requires consistent practice and gambling all most all the time. You just have to practice to be good at what you do and also do them well enough to secure your winnings m

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June 17, 2021, 11:24:21 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?


There does not have to be any kind of correlation between those two aspects, after all poker is a game in which math is heavily involved so for example if you wanted to raise your unpredictability a few points then you could take a look at your watch, while wearing glasses to cover your eyes of course, and if you happen to lay your eyes on the watch at a particular second or seconds then you could bluff or do some other action, this way you become unpredictable as not even you know what you will do.
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June 17, 2021, 10:41:18 AM
First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
If they fear losing their money, it is better they do not play gambling and never try to come to the casino. If someone can not deal with his emotions but still play gambling, he will not have a chance to take care of his money instead of losing it for a long time. The important here is always to control the emotion and greed because that will come to them even when they are playing gambling.
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June 17, 2021, 09:38:10 AM
First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.


Emotions are just part of the game, managing it is key in gambling. When playing poker there are two things we need to consider. First, we need to keep our emotions in check so it doesn't affect our decision making. And second, we need to make sure that we don't show our emotions when playing at a table. If our opponents can smell fear the will bluff us.


Emotions always play the big role in playing poker, you can trick your opponents thinking that you are in fear,

Letting them to bluff you and got burned, if you have the capabilities in hiding what's inside you it will serve as good advantage to your side,
though it's not easy as it is, the needs of more experienced and practices from each sits around the table is very important.
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June 17, 2021, 09:03:38 AM
First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
Positive approach will also attract positive outcome meaning fear must be out when we gamble and try to trust your chance when playing.
i also find this when i am ready to gamble and when i am not.


When I'm ready and in good mood? mostly i win .

But when i am not ready? in just a couple of minutes or time , i am already losing .

Yes, a positive attitude is very important.  A player with a good mood usually wins.  Why?  I don't know ... There is some kind of mysticism in this.  However, this is a fact confirmed by multiple experiments! 

To create a positive mood before playing in an online casino, I do the following:

1) Drink a cup of hot coffee with cream. 

2) I take a bath with cedar and mint oil. 

3) I turn on funny Latin American music. 

4) I dance bachata or kizomba for half an hour. 

All this sets you up for a successful game.  I am as focused and lucky as possible.
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June 17, 2021, 07:49:16 AM
First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
Positive approach will also attract positive outcome meaning fear must be out when we gamble and try to trust your chance when playing.
i also find this when i am ready to gamble and when i am not.


When I'm ready and in good mood? mostly i win .

But when i am not ready? in just a couple of minutes or time , i am already losing .
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June 17, 2021, 06:14:35 AM
First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
I think it would be better to stay focused on keeping your pattern in the game, instead of predicting your opponent's thoughts I guess it will just mess up your strategy. With you having a pattern in the game, you can change the pattern at any time according to the card in hand, if you can master it, I'm sure you will be unpredictable and put you in control of the game.
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June 17, 2021, 05:45:32 AM
First deal with your emotions and the fear that comes with it. Many times gamblers tend to gamble with fear and end up selecting wrong games. If a gambler can tackle their emotions and greed the would have random wins and keep their winnings constant. But been unpredictable I feel it can't be 100% possible so you work on your psychology so you can as well predict the minds of your opponent.
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June 17, 2021, 05:40:41 AM
But if that strategy really works for him, he can still try to use that strategy, but I remind him always to use different strategies to confuse his opponent with your expression.

In addition, we must not forget that the other players also have cards in hand, and they can really have a good game. That's why poker is so unpredictable.

Some of the gamblers skills regarding wtih the cards they know the chance and the probability outcome of their opponent's cards which is a good strategy too some of them make a deep knowledge regarding with the poker like statistics some of the gambler trying to win the game by having the outcome of their card some times having confident on higher scorecards gives them the chance of winning not all wage but still a profit.

In my country when they play casual poker they try to always give them a hint to their enemy about what kind of card they have just shown they will win immediately.
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June 17, 2021, 05:25:12 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?

Poker is a game were in order to win you should be both, very rational(most of the time) and unpredictable(sometimes). An erratic individual can do just fine in the field of unpredictability, but being good in another field, rationality, can be crucial for achieving good results in the end.

So, Yes, I think most great poker players are living normal life, without being unpredictable, because otherwise it would be very inconvenient for those around. And, yes, they can be more unpredictable in games than those who are unpredictable all the time.
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June 15, 2021, 09:44:05 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.
it will be usfull, i think

it's not impossible indeed but we would need more in depth posts and better organization for that
I guess

of course one can always find the forum by chance and go deeper from there but I find that most of the people I indicate to check posts here end up not sticking to it.
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June 11, 2021, 08:44:39 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.
it will be usfull, i think
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June 11, 2021, 08:31:20 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.

ooh, imagine that, bitcointalk holding all the Poker alpha, that would be curious  Grin


So, does unpredictability on games correlates to being unpredictable in life in a positive or negative way?
or none?

Someone who has really predictable life and routine, could be more unpredictable on games than someone who live in a more erratic and unexpected way?

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June 11, 2021, 06:07:04 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting

Yes, that's what I meant, thank you! Smiley

Regarding this topic, being unpredictable is absolutely necessary, but here we can discuss to what degree we should apply this rule. What is the optimum percentage of such moves?

I have a dream that one day poker players, when googling about poker strategies, will be ending up on bitcointalk because here they can see some fresh ideas and use them to their advantage.
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June 10, 2021, 08:49:19 AM
Is there a way that you can ensure being difficult to predict at Poker? For example, if you never bluff, people will eventually get to known that and it will reduce your ability to profit from good  cards? Anyone there knows techniques or trick to avoid being easy to read?
I'm sure you are talking about Real life Poker right? because it is stupid to expect about our emotion on bluffing to be known by the computer online  Grin

Anyway , There is no such thing unless you know how to divert your emotion from tense to happy, and from normal to abnormal.

Probably, you can't show emotions or chat but I think it's possible that you will type and type just to confuse the other players but in real life poker I think changing behavior from time to time would help you not to be read by other players. I think one of my weakness is having trouble reading others maybe they're using that trick to confuse me.
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June 10, 2021, 08:01:34 AM
interesting @Betwrong
now I feel we get to some core of the idea.

to be better players and become more unpredictable we mut have some degree of randomness but not 100% since this would be too much and turn skill into pure luck.

really interesting
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June 09, 2021, 05:49:22 AM


Yeah, just one example. You can't call a big raise instantly, when you have nothing. You should consider bluffing or folding, and it takes time.


Calling with nothing is very risky, we could trust in an Ace high, or a King High but the chances are small for us to win actually. When confronted with a big raise I probably would just fold.

That's what I'm doing most of the time too, but it's not easy to see your stack melting, and your opponents, one by one, outrunning you on the leader-board. You should have the strength to endure it all.


It is not about being unpredictable when we go All in, but the chances are that the opponent has the nuts. Better to fold and win the money back later. If the other guy would check than it is a better position to go All in.

There's always a possibility that they are bluffcatching you, though.

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what are your takes on subjective probabilities?
bullshit or possible to calibrate?

It's not bullshit, that's for sure. Even if you are starting playing with complete strangers, after 20-30 minutes in the tournament you more or less know their style. Then you can start utilizing your knowledge, and you'll fail only when they'll be acting not in their style, in other words, unpredictably. Now, they can't act unpredictably all the time, because it'll turn their game into an almost purely luck-based one, so, yeah, imo, subjective probabilities are useful.
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June 08, 2021, 11:34:17 AM
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Maybe not memorizing but calculating odds can help.
depending on the cards on the table and on your hand you can try and calculate the odds of other players to have better hands than you.
definitely not easy, but feasible.

Calculating the odds of possible outcomes is absolutely necessary when you play poker, and, yes, it's feasible. Experienced poker players do not use calculator for that, it happens automatically in their brain. Of course, since luck is involved, you can know nothing about the odds and still win, but the probability of that is very low.

nice trick on checking response times of users.

Yeah, just one example. You can't call a big raise instantly, when you have nothing. You should consider bluffing or folding, and it takes time.

so fast decision-takers will have an edge, an advantage
quite interesting

what are your takes on subjective probabilities?
bullshit or possible to calibrate?
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June 06, 2021, 02:49:35 PM
would you say that the techniques and tricks for online and offline pocker are almost like 2 different games?
with similar rules
or its not as different as that?

The main rules will be the same.

Now, the way of playing has to be different.
In the offline game, bluffing can involve several aspects, such as facial expression and table posture.
In the online game, these aspects no longer apply. Therefore, the only bluff that can be used is the level of betting behavior, and whether or not to go to the game.


yes! totally agree
level of betting and also repetitive behavior or not, even on online poker sometimes you can tell after playing a few tables if the person usually bluffs more or not by the way they bet/fold and frequency

Not that much since it would rather be ending up as a hunch unlike if you do able to see the persons face or in physical on where you can presume out that he is really into something on where these things cant really be determined when you do play online.You can determine things between two.
So its up to someones own perception and observation but we can really tell the diffence.
Even online we can see some tells about what your opponent may have, and everything has to do with patterns, if you see that your opponent takes most of the time he is given to think about his move but then he begins to make faster decisions then you need to wonder why that is? Most likely this has to do with the fact he has a good hand and it is going to be difficult to beat it and he is so sure of himself that he is not afraid of calling everything that you throw at him, obviously this process is easier to do in real life but there is still ways to get out information out of the betting patterns of your opponents.
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June 04, 2021, 05:43:13 AM
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Maybe not memorizing but calculating odds can help.
depending on the cards on the table and on your hand you can try and calculate the odds of other players to have better hands than you.
definitely not easy, but feasible.

Calculating the odds of possible outcomes is absolutely necessary when you play poker, and, yes, it's feasible. Experienced poker players do not use calculator for that, it happens automatically in their brain. Of course, since luck is involved, you can know nothing about the odds and still win, but the probability of that is very low.

nice trick on checking response times of users.

Yeah, just one example. You can't call a big raise instantly, when you have nothing. You should consider bluffing or folding, and it takes time.
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