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legendary
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December 19, 2023, 06:10:31 PM
Hello  Smiley

As a former customer of Betnomi as well, I'm very happy to see Betnomi coming back here and doing this refund instead of just leaving us in the dark (which would be an easy thing to do but Betnomi looks to take the honest way regarding this). Kudos if former customers can really get a refund here.  Smiley
Submitted my form as well just yesterday for my small amount still in my account (but hard to remeber the exact amount as Betnomi is down for a very long time already).

Maybe it's a good decision as well, to extend your 30-day period where former customers can request a refund. I'm sure that some people will only see your announcement later, they won't be able to claim anymore and therefore don't receive any refund. So, maybe it's a consideration for Betnomi to extend your refund request date until January 31, 2024, if it's possible?
legendary
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December 18, 2023, 08:41:19 AM
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@Betwrong, to confirm, we have received your request and will process it.

@Betwrong can you confirm anything from there?

Yes, I will definitely post here in this thread when refund is done or there's any news regarding this matter. As of now, I have nothing new to report. I think if they'll manage to do it within one or two upcoming weeks it would be great.
legendary
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December 17, 2023, 07:38:45 PM
but with the case here, i highly believe you have the chance to receive your refunds. as they want to have their good reputation in this forum, as much as possible they want to resolve this bottleneck in their business. as it seems, they do want to continue their business, however, with this situation not fully closed, they can't move forward.

because they can't launch a new one, even if they will not use betnomi's name. that is, if they want to refer that they were running a casino business for years, and they would want to refer a casino in which issues have been fully closed. it will give them a good start of earning credibility.

If there is a sincere desire to refund all users, I see no reason why a request would be delayed for a month or longer. It simply needs to pay off and move on. I would say that this only makes things look worse.

who knows they are continuously working on it and would be a great christmas gifts for those who have substantial claim.

Returning money to someone is not a gift.
legendary
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December 17, 2023, 04:04:31 PM
So we have come close to the end of this saga. They received a significant number of applications for refunds, and now all that is left is to inform us about the fulfilled obligations.
Is there anyone who received a refund from Betnomi, of course, they are a member of the forum from before and not a newly registered account?
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May I suggest we also ask for GekkeBelg's input? He's quite... vocal on the gambling section, and I think his first hand experience on this refund plan can be trusted, given he had submitted his request around a month ago.

Gekke, did you get anything yet?

You're right, I submitted my claim the first day immediately. Nothing received and I also don't know of anyone who has received anything. To be honest, I have very little trust I will ever receive anything, the chance is about 1% I would estimate.

but with the case here, i highly believe you have the chance to receive your refunds. as they want to have their good reputation in this forum, as much as possible they want to resolve this bottleneck in their business. as it seems, they do want to continue their business, however, with this situation not fully closed, they can't move forward.

because they can't launch a new one, even if they will not use betnomi's name. that is, if they want to refer that they were running a casino business for years, and they would want to refer a casino in which issues have been fully closed. it will give them a good start of earning credibility.

who knows they are continuously working on it and would be a great christmas gifts for those who have substantial claim. the team should also post the tx ids once they start sending those funds to their affected users.
full member
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December 17, 2023, 03:23:54 PM
So we have come close to the end of this saga. They received a significant number of applications for refunds, and now all that is left is to inform us about the fulfilled obligations.
Is there anyone who received a refund from Betnomi, of course, they are a member of the forum from before and not a newly registered account?
[...]

May I suggest we also ask for GekkeBelg's input? He's quite... vocal on the gambling section, and I think his first hand experience on this refund plan can be trusted, given he had submitted his request around a month ago.

Gekke, did you get anything yet?

You're right, I submitted my claim the first day immediately. Nothing received and I also don't know of anyone who has received anything. To be honest, I have very little trust I will ever receive anything, the chance is about 1% I would estimate.
legendary
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December 17, 2023, 05:51:13 AM
So we have come close to the end of this saga. They received a significant number of applications for refunds, and now all that is left is to inform us about the fulfilled obligations.
Is there anyone who received a refund from Betnomi, of course, they are a member of the forum from before and not a newly registered account?
[...]

May I suggest we also ask for GekkeBelg's input? He's quite... vocal on the gambling section, and I think his first hand experience on this refund plan can be trusted, given he had submitted his request around a month ago.

Gekke, did you get anything yet?
legendary
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December 16, 2023, 06:12:33 PM
So we have come close to the end of this saga. They received a significant number of applications for refunds, and now all that is left is to inform us about the fulfilled obligations.
Is there anyone who received a refund from Betnomi, of course, they are a member of the forum from before and not a newly registered account?
Also, is there an internal list of users who applied for a refund? How to even check that this is not just throwing dust in the eye by Betnomi?

We have received a large number of refund requests, many of which are duplicates. We are carefully analyzing them to separate legitimate requests from bogus ones. While we intended to complete this process sooner, we are actively working on it and appreciate your patience.

@Betwrong, to confirm, we have received your request and will process it.

@Betwrong can you confirm anything from there?
hero member
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December 16, 2023, 04:48:22 PM
The problem is they are the one who give a 30 days window to withdraw balance of affected customer. This means that they should be active on answering emails since they only give limited window time to claim yet most of the user here reported unanswered email.

You’re right that Betnomi coming back for refund is already a miracle but my concern is why they need to have a window time on for withdrawal funds while they will take longer to analyze all the submission.
Maybe they are working on something and that's why they put a window but I do understand the others that probably still have funds on their betnomi accounts and are busy in real life and are not aware of this update from them.

The only hope that these people can have is if betnomi is going to put an extension on this 30-day window period for the withdrawal of their customers. They have to reconsider it if there are still some accounts found on their database that still have some fund on them.

I think filtering and checking them manually and giving a notice to their emails will help.
legendary
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December 16, 2023, 07:05:33 AM
I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

Do you actually find it worthwhile to use your deposit address for refund? But this is more dangerous than you might expect. I will explain the matter to you simply: operations are not required to be carried out from a private address to which the depositor has a private key. I can assure you that most of them complete deposits and withdrawals to and from their accounts on the trading platforms. These addresses are not the property of the users, but rather the property of the trading platform they use, and the platform recommends not using any of the addresses in withdrawal operations to make deposits.

This is a very serious point, and any user who will be compensated must be asked to provide a refund address according to the type of his assets.

Don't get me wrong about this but I think if the exchange where they get those addresses is fine then there's nothing to worry about and Betnomi could use that since they can really verify if the claimnants is real then maybe they can check the deposited amount to their wallet while the issue happened to them.

But if there's a problem on the exchange then maybe they should pm Betnomi for that and ask for certain verifcation and also change of wallet address for refund so that you will not get any problem if they sent the refunds then make sure that everything is alright at your end.

Perhaps I should have clarified one thing:

If the address you sent your coins from was from an crypto exchange then it could be dangerous to send coins back to it. The reason being that some cryptocurrency exchanges have a different methodology of separating addresses. So your exchange address could be different from your deposit address and sending coins back could mean they become lost forever.

I am not sure which crypto exchanges do this but better safe than sorry.

Make sure to check thrice before sending anything to any address!
sr. member
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December 16, 2023, 06:10:58 AM
I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

Do you actually find it worthwhile to use your deposit address for refund? But this is more dangerous than you might expect. I will explain the matter to you simply: operations are not required to be carried out from a private address to which the depositor has a private key. I can assure you that most of them complete deposits and withdrawals to and from their accounts on the trading platforms. These addresses are not the property of the users, but rather the property of the trading platform they use, and the platform recommends not using any of the addresses in withdrawal operations to make deposits.

This is a very serious point, and any user who will be compensated must be asked to provide a refund address according to the type of his assets.

Don't get me wrong about this but I think if the exchange where they get those addresses is fine then there's nothing to worry about and Betnomi could use that since they can really verify if the claimnants is real then maybe they can check the deposited amount to their wallet while the issue happened to them.

But if there's a problem on the exchange then maybe they should pm Betnomi for that and ask for certain verifcation and also change of wallet address for refund so that you will not get any problem if they sent the refunds then make sure that everything is alright at your end.
legendary
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December 15, 2023, 04:38:05 PM
I still keep wondering how such a fake claim can even happen. Cause these are the preconditions mentioned by Betnomi in the opening post:
1. First name, Last name (if you are KYC verified)
2. Username (request will be ignored if the username does not exist)
3. Email address (request will be ignored if the email does not match)
4. Refund Amount (approximate balance is acceptable)
5. Wallet address (we will process only in the cryptocurrency you have)

So, a fake claimer would have to know the first name, last name (if KYC verified), username, refund amount and would have to have access to the email box of the legitimate user.
Because as stated, if the email does not match the request will be ignored. This also confirms that Betnomi do still have the list of all emailaddresses (otherwise they would not be able to see if an email matches or not).

Sure it can. If the false claimee is friends/family with the true claimee and knows about the situation. And perhaps they can get into their e-Mail address., All it takes is to create a wallet address and voila. Stolen.  I think they should only refund to an address previously used for deposits. That might bring an extra layer of security into the whole thing. Especially against people who might try to pre-plan and fake such a scenario in order to claim they never got their refund.

But this is one of those times where KYC comes in handy. (Although I am not a fan of giving strangers government documents, which if leaked or sold, could lead to them having life-long identity theft issues.)

Do you actually find it worthwhile to use your deposit address for refund? But this is more dangerous than you might expect. I will explain the matter to you simply: operations are not required to be carried out from a private address to which the depositor has a private key. I can assure you that most of them complete deposits and withdrawals to and from their accounts on the trading platforms. These addresses are not the property of the users, but rather the property of the trading platform they use, and the platform recommends not using any of the addresses in withdrawal operations to make deposits.

This is a very serious point, and any user who will be compensated must be asked to provide a refund address according to the type of his assets.
hero member
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December 15, 2023, 01:40:33 PM

I doubt that this will be helpful to speed up his case because there’s zero case of refunded user here so far since Betnomi create this thread and announce the plan. There should be some user that receive refund if they are really busy on processing refunds.

Bumping email will not help if they are not responding any of the refund claims since the beginning.

Of course they won't do single refunds.
If they send these, it will be in bulk transactions. Obviously figuring out the whole situation takes a lot of time. Not every request for a refund might be valid, there are enough clowns trying to take advantage of all the fuss and get a freebie or something.
It takes as long as it takes, their initial reappearance and and first post back is not even 1 month old. You can't expect miracles here.
I think all users thinking they would never see 1 cent from them should be happy there is still a chance. Personally I am also effected by this, not a lot of $ thankfully . Still I didn't expect a refund to be an option until I found this thread.



The problem is they are the one who give a 30 days window to withdraw balance of affected customer. This means that they should be active on answering emails since they only give limited window time to claim yet most of the user here reported unanswered email.

You’re right that Betnomi coming back for refund is already a miracle but my concern is why they need to have a window time on for withdrawal funds while they will take longer to analyze all the submission.
hero member
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December 15, 2023, 11:15:25 AM
It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I think Betnomi is processing a lot of requests, so they can't respond quickly. You should try to send them some more requests and then maybe they will pay attention to your problem. I hope the casino support will solve your request.

I doubt that this will be helpful to speed up his case because there’s zero case of refunded user here so far since Betnomi create this thread and announce the plan. There should be some user that receive refund if they are really busy on processing refunds.

Bumping email will not help if they are not responding any of the refund claims since the beginning.

Of course they won't do single refunds.
If they send these, it will be in bulk transactions. Obviously figuring out the whole situation takes a lot of time. Not every request for a refund might be valid, there are enough clowns trying to take advantage of all the fuss and get a freebie or something.
It takes as long as it takes, their initial reappearance and and first post back is not even 1 month old. You can't expect miracles here.
I think all users thinking they would never see 1 cent from them should be happy there is still a chance. Personally I am also effected by this, not a lot of $ thankfully . Still I didn't expect a refund to be an option until I found this thread.

hero member
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December 15, 2023, 09:31:52 AM
It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I think Betnomi is processing a lot of requests, so they can't respond quickly. You should try to send them some more requests and then maybe they will pay attention to your problem. I hope the casino support will solve your request.

I doubt that this will be helpful to speed up his case because there’s zero case of refunded user here so far since Betnomi create this thread and announce the plan. There should be some user that receive refund if they are really busy on processing refunds.

Bumping email will not help if they are not responding any of the refund claims since the beginning.
legendary
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December 15, 2023, 06:21:23 AM
It's not about that, you're not responding to emails.

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I think Betnomi is processing a lot of requests, so they can't respond quickly. You should try to send them some more requests and then maybe they will pay attention to your problem. I hope the casino support will solve your request.
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December 14, 2023, 06:27:48 PM
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They already stated on their previous post that only few left that still doesn’t receive their funds before they close. The large volume of fake claims is very easy to address since they have all the original information of their players including email.

The email itself is sufficient to claim the refund without the need of KYC unless they imposed KYC to all their user before then KYC really matters at all. They should have at least process the first batch if they are really serious about this refund process.
Well, I'm just weighing in on opinions about the possible reason as to why they're still not being responsive about the emails, I mean there's a lot of reason why someone can't respond to emails quickly right? And there's also the possibility that they don't have the money yet for the other refund money, didn't their partners run away with some of the money right?
legendary
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December 14, 2023, 05:41:27 PM
2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.
Sorry about that, but you are never going to receive any reply from that email because sorsis is not controlling it anymore.
If I am wrong it would be very easy for him to prove that and send several emails with message that he controls it.
I am waiting to see what is going to happen.


My guess is that they are not even going to use that mail to reply to enquires of people who want to have an answer. I believe it is similar to when you try to get to get a reply from a mail which is not even being monitored by an actual human being, but only used for commercial automated purposes. If one is seeking to talk to a person instead of giving a shoot to an email which is obviously not Intended to be for customer support, then it is more constructive to try to get the attention of Betnomi in here, they at least have proven to be willing to talk to gamblers in this thread.
By the way, one must also keep in mind we are going right through the Christmas season, so I would not be surprised if Betnomi does not count with all the workforce they would need to quickly process all the refunds and filter all the mails they must be getting at the same time, we are not supposed to forget the staff behind this effort to alledgely help people to reclaim their money are human beings as well and they would also like to spend time with their families this season. I know it sounds rather cynical keeping in mind all this started as a exit scam, but those are facts we cannot forget about.

In the meantime, I am also keeping an eye on this thread and see who this story/situation will continue to develop.
legendary
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December 14, 2023, 04:44:54 PM
They already stated on their previous post that only few left that still doesn’t receive their funds before they close.

Which is also weird that so far none of the refunds were processed if only a few are left especially when most of them have really small balance.

The large volume of fake claims is very easy to address since they have all the original information of their players including email.

At the same time, there are also several legit claims that could be processed in the mean time without having to wait for everyone to submit their request then sort out which is a legit claim and which is not. Pretty sure they could easily differentiate which is a legit claim

I am waiting to see what is going to happen.

Probably nothing at this rate. Unless they decided to process several batches of the refunds then at this rate, nothing is going to happen. Im pretty sure that there are several legit claims that is easy for them to differentiate compared to those fake claims. Some of the betnomi's sponsored poker tournaments players still havent received their refunds yet and these players's claims are legit
legendary
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December 14, 2023, 04:28:29 PM
2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.
Sorry about that, but you are never going to receive any reply from that email because sorsis is not controlling it anymore.
If I am wrong it would be very easy for him to prove that and send several emails with message that he controls it.
I am waiting to see what is going to happen.
hero member
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December 14, 2023, 12:09:09 PM

2 weeks went by, no response via email, none whatsoever.

I don't know if this is true but given the volume of people that's requesting a refund and are angry at Betnomi, I think that you shouldn't base your belief in Betnomi by their response time to their emails because they're getting a lot of hatemails already and it's an instinct for them to ignore it and basically your email is probably drowned in spam and hatemails from other players. Maybe you can hope that you'll be able to get some response from them now that you've exposed yourself.

They already stated on their previous post that only few left that still doesn’t receive their funds before they close. The large volume of fake claims is very easy to address since they have all the original information of their players including email.

The email itself is sufficient to claim the refund without the need of KYC unless they imposed KYC to all their user before then KYC really matters at all. They should have at least process the first batch if they are really serious about this refund process.
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