Biblepay BBP Community Discussion Thread - page 4.

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Quote from: sunk818 on March 29, 2019, 11:31:29 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 26, 2019, 07:03:17 PM

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

Since BiblePay PoDC and PoDC unbanked are gone, are you doing anything else useful with Android smartphones?

I saw Neummanium mentioned Einstein@Home and SETI@Home, but I'm not sure if they are paying Neummanium for those projects any more...?

https://icesword.co.jp/en/computingforgood/

I used to get Neummanium automatically with 0Byte on WCG. Not sure haven't done a lot of boinc crunching lately. But I don't expect Neum to be a big winner.

Really 0byte is the only good coin I've found that rises even in this market. The payout is much better than gridcoin too.

I'm looking at a curecoin/foldingcoin merged setup for desktop. It uses Chrome for a client, and chugs along in the background without much trouble. Kind of Boinc Lite. I believe it has an android client, and is of course a charity coin.

There have been a lot improvements for miners on android. I've been mining Uplexa with phones recently. It has a really nice client that can adjust number of cores and CPU time, and gets decent hash rate. Near gone are the days of overheating phones. I suspect there are other CPU coins that work decently on android. It's just finding them.

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 26, 2019, 07:03:17 PM

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

Since BiblePay PoDC and PoDC unbanked are gone, are you doing anything else useful with Android smartphones?

I saw Neummanium mentioned Einstein@Home and SETI@Home, but I'm not sure if they are paying Neummanium for those projects any more...?

https://icesword.co.jp/en/computingforgood/

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Quote from: secoccular on March 28, 2019, 04:06:00 PM

PODC was really nice, because it appealed to Christians and Good Samaritans alike. It's just about doing good, right? Or do we not want soiled non-believer money and involvement? Can we really afford in this market to exclude anyone? We shall see...

This would have gone really nicely with PoDC. If PoBH mining varied based on your mining stake, the hps throttles and PoDC could have kicked in to do some BOINC tasks.

https://github.com/biblepay/biblepay-evolution/commit/29c6cd8163b33e1e328ecd867af986d87719a4ef

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- Enhance ABN mining (allow miner to sleep if block is not late and ABN is insufficient, ensure all miners wake up when blocks are late)

Bitcoin LE has a time out feature where all miners take a break...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bitcoin-le-new-coin-ecological-bitcoin-pow-low-energy-4951492

Again, that window could be used for other things like BOINC tasks (or mine another altcoin I guess).

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Quote from: sunk818 on March 28, 2019, 03:55:02 PM

Quote from: secoccular on March 28, 2019, 11:17:31 AM

That's the real balancing act--between stability and innovation. Rob clearly favors the latter. I don't like change-for-change's-sake because it increases an already complex set of concepts. Plus it invalidates a bunch of the documentation, so it leaves things hanging until someone can circle back and update the docs.

Check out how many sites still are advertising "Biblepay PODC" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=biblepay+podc&atb=v153-6_l&ia=web

You get it. Some of that content can still be leveraged as redirecting marketing text. No point in deleting it... but there's no clear direction from PoDC for CPU users. PoBH is the current default, but the mining reward will go away when PoG comes back. So, what do we have left? Proof of Giving (PoG) which relies on coin age with no CPU mining required. So, essentially, Rob has decided all the CPU miners are not worth holding on to. Grandma hasn't really materialized because crypto is hard to understand by itself, let alone trying to introduce all these complex concepts. I wonder what population BiblePay is trying to target. Tech savvy Christians? How many of those exist that want to use crypto for charity?

I think Rob wrote a while back, that BBP is for a tech-savvy Christian audience. I find that an odd stance, limiting the popularity right out of the gate. I wonder if Rob is really OK with that. You can't get a top 250 coin by alienating the average crypto person. We can have wide appeal, or we can have an exclusive club that requires a lot of time and research to play, as you said. But I don't think there are many "investors" who have a lot of time to mess with this.

It's been a challenge for me to discuss BBP with Christians at large, because, as you noted, they don't really understand crypto at all, much less PODC, PoG, Evolution. I think we've forgotten how terribly deep we've gone down the rabbit hole.

PODC was really nice, because it appealed to Christians and Good Samaritans alike. It's just about doing good, right? Or do we not want soiled non-believer money and involvement? Can we really afford in this market to exclude anyone? We shall see...

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Quote from: secoccular on March 28, 2019, 11:17:31 AM

That's the real balancing act--between stability and innovation. Rob clearly favors the latter. I don't like change-for-change's-sake because it increases an already complex set of concepts. Plus it invalidates a bunch of the documentation, so it leaves things hanging until someone can circle back and update the docs.

Check out how many sites still are advertising "Biblepay PODC" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=biblepay+podc&atb=v153-6_l&ia=web

You get it. Some of that content can still be leveraged as redirecting marketing text. No point in deleting it... but there's no clear direction from PoDC for CPU users. PoBH is the current default, but the mining reward will go away when PoG comes back. So, what do we have left? Proof of Giving (PoG) which relies on coin age with no CPU mining required. So, essentially, Rob has decided all the CPU miners are not worth holding on to. Grandma hasn't really materialized because crypto is hard to understand by itself, let alone trying to introduce all these complex concepts. I wonder what population BiblePay is trying to target. Tech savvy Christians? How many of those exist that want to use crypto for charity?

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Quote from: sunk818 on March 28, 2019, 10:14:32 AM

Quote from: secoccular on March 26, 2019, 10:27:19 PM

Quote from: sunk818 on March 26, 2019, 09:46:46 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 26, 2019, 07:03:17 PM

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

The chrome extension is pretty cool. I didn't even know they had miners on cryptonote w/ 2 minute block times. The ability to segregate the technology from daily usage is really amazing to me.

The HTML5 or web based parts of the wallet sound promising in that respect. Rob's not a front end design guy so hopefully he recognizes his weak points and farms out that stuff to more competent people.

I mined it for a bit. The algo, CN Heavy variant, was kind of hard on the GPUs. It was just easier to mine a lighter cryptonight coin like turtle or aeon with less impact, and just get TUBE through the chrome extension. Bittube has gone through a lot, and the ideas keep coming.

I've also been crunching on distributed.computer on a few machines. Lately, BiblePay miner on Windows is crashing on me intermittently. Linux biblepayd is solid. I get 2.5khps (Linux) vs 2.0khps (Windows 10) on my i5 3.2Ghz 4 core. So, I"ll see if I can run Chrome browser unattended on distributed.computer and see if that fares better. I don't feel Rob is into fixing hard problems like miner crashes when he's coding his new toys. I can understand the desire, but I feel its just disregard for the fundamentals. Internal miner should be flawless since its a critical process to keep the network secure.

That's the real balancing act--between stability and innovation. Rob clearly favors the latter. I don't like change-for-change's-sake because it increases an already complex set of concepts. Plus it invalidates a bunch of the documentation, so it leaves things hanging until someone can circle back and update the docs.

Check out how many sites still are advertising "Biblepay PODC" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=biblepay+podc&atb=v153-6_l&ia=web

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Quote from: secoccular on March 26, 2019, 10:27:19 PM

Quote from: sunk818 on March 26, 2019, 09:46:46 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 26, 2019, 07:03:17 PM

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

The chrome extension is pretty cool. I didn't even know they had miners on cryptonote w/ 2 minute block times. The ability to segregate the technology from daily usage is really amazing to me.

The HTML5 or web based parts of the wallet sound promising in that respect. Rob's not a front end design guy so hopefully he recognizes his weak points and farms out that stuff to more competent people.

I mined it for a bit. The algo, CN Heavy variant, was kind of hard on the GPUs. It was just easier to mine a lighter cryptonight coin like turtle or aeon with less impact, and just get TUBE through the chrome extension. Bittube has gone through a lot, and the ideas keep coming.

I've also been crunching on distributed.computer on a few machines. Lately, BiblePay miner on Windows is crashing on me intermittently. Linux biblepayd is solid. I get 2.5khps (Linux) vs 2.0khps (Windows 10) on my i5 3.2Ghz 4 core. So, I"ll see if I can run Chrome browser unattended on distributed.computer and see if that fares better. I don't feel Rob is into fixing hard problems like miner crashes when he's coding his new toys. I can understand the desire, but I feel its just disregard for the fundamentals. Internal miner should be flawless since its a critical process to keep the network secure.

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Quote from: sunk818 on March 26, 2019, 09:46:46 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 26, 2019, 07:03:17 PM

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

The chrome extension is pretty cool. I didn't even know they had miners on cryptonote w/ 2 minute block times. The ability to segregate the technology from daily usage is really amazing to me.

The HTML5 or web based parts of the wallet sound promising in that respect. Rob's not a front end design guy so hopefully he recognizes his weak points and farms out that stuff to more competent people.

I mined it for a bit. The algo, CN Heavy variant, was kind of hard on the GPUs. It was just easier to mine a lighter cryptonight coin like turtle or aeon with less impact, and just get TUBE through the chrome extension. Bittube has gone through a lot, and the ideas keep coming.

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 26, 2019, 07:03:17 PM

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

The chrome extension is pretty cool. I didn't even know they had miners on cryptonote w/ 2 minute block times. The ability to segregate the technology from daily usage is really amazing to me.

The HTML5 or web based parts of the wallet sound promising in that respect. Rob's not a front end design guy so hopefully he recognizes his weak points and farms out that stuff to more competent people.

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Quote from: sunk818 on March 26, 2019, 02:06:29 PM

Quote from: secoccular on March 25, 2019, 07:10:32 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 25, 2019, 06:35:52 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 23, 2019, 08:40:01 PM

Yeah...I found that today. The sure aren't making things simple by murking the waters are they? I think what I was using was from bittube.me which I still have an account for. However, that does not use the same login for the bittubeapp. So, I will give this a shot and see how it goes.

Any idea why they have bittube.me and bittubeapp.com still? Different logins. Are they the same people or competing offerings?

Can we at least try to keep the discussion on BiblePay Community?

This is the Chrome extension I'm using: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bittube-airtime-donations/cnogbbmciffpibmkphohpebghmomaemi?hl=en

We're just talking about alternatives especially if we have computers we used for PoDC (defunct Proof of Distributed Computing), but now want to seek new ways to use the computers. PoBH is certainly a possibility, but without anti-botnet features currently, its kind of a moot point. I read they have ABN which they are experimenting with now in 14.0.1 in testnet, so it might be coming. You will need coin age like you did with Proof of Giving (PoG).

I don't know, at this point, I may just stay quiet, hope for a moon, and dump BBP when it is makes financial. I'm seriously sick of Rob's BS.

You can support charity directly without complication and dealing with a paranoid crypto dev.

Thanks Sunk, that is what I'm using now. It certainly works more like it should to be appealing.

I too got tired of the hypocrisy that came from the Dev of this coin. I've seen how he treats everyone, lies and manipulates. The reason investors are leaving are because of him. Not because of the "negativity" that a few forum members bring. People don't trust a Dev that censors the truth and makes up his own version of things. They also don't like it when they are called Satanists just for having a different opinion on technology. What he doesn't understand is that every one of the people he pushed away or out of his thread are indeed investors in some way and he is the one hurting them. He hurts the support he is offered and he hurts any positive word of mouth that the project would normally have.

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Quote from: secoccular on March 25, 2019, 07:10:32 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 25, 2019, 06:35:52 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 23, 2019, 08:40:01 PM

Yeah...I found that today. The sure aren't making things simple by murking the waters are they? I think what I was using was from bittube.me which I still have an account for. However, that does not use the same login for the bittubeapp. So, I will give this a shot and see how it goes.

Any idea why they have bittube.me and bittubeapp.com still? Different logins. Are they the same people or competing offerings?

Can we at least try to keep the discussion on BiblePay Community?

This is the Chrome extension I'm using: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/bittube-airtime-donations/cnogbbmciffpibmkphohpebghmomaemi?hl=en

We're just talking about alternatives especially if we have computers we used for PoDC (defunct Proof of Distributed Computing), but now want to seek new ways to use the computers. PoBH is certainly a possibility, but without anti-botnet features currently, its kind of a moot point. I read they have ABN which they are experimenting with now in 14.0.1 in testnet, so it might be coming. You will need coin age like you did with Proof of Giving (PoG).

I don't know, at this point, I may just stay quiet, hope for a moon, and dump BBP when it is makes financial. I'm seriously sick of Rob's BS.

You can support charity directly without complication and dealing with a paranoid crypto dev.

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 25, 2019, 06:35:52 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 23, 2019, 08:40:01 PM

Yeah...I found that today. The sure aren't making things simple by murking the waters are they? I think what I was using was from bittube.me which I still have an account for. However, that does not use the same login for the bittubeapp. So, I will give this a shot and see how it goes.

Any idea why they have bittube.me and bittubeapp.com still? Different logins. Are they the same people or competing offerings?

Can we at least try to keep the discussion on BiblePay Community?

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 23, 2019, 08:40:01 PM

Yeah...I found that today. The sure aren't making things simple by murking the waters are they? I think what I was using was from bittube.me which I still have an account for. However, that does not use the same login for the bittubeapp. So, I will give this a shot and see how it goes.

Any idea why they have bittube.me and bittubeapp.com still? Different logins. Are they the same people or competing offerings?

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Yeah...I found that today. The sure aren't making things simple by murking the waters are they? I think what I was using was from bittube.me which I still have an account for. However, that does not use the same login for the bittubeapp. So, I will give this a shot and see how it goes.

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 23, 2019, 09:30:17 AM

How well does bit.tube work with the search and such? Using the extension for youtube works but it is very tedious to use for earning as you have to do videos one link at a time.

And don't forget to use people's referrals. :p

You're talking about the old plug-in for youtube. We're talking about the new plugin that rewards tube for any web surfing with chrome.

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How well does bit.tube work with the search and such? Using the extension for youtube works but it is very tedious to use for earning as you have to do videos one link at a time.

And don't forget to use people's referrals. :p

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Quote from: sunk818 on March 20, 2019, 12:52:53 PM

Quote from: cuarc001 on March 19, 2019, 01:44:47 PM

I thought DCC awards from the SPARC Alpha was over. Now to earn DCC you have to run their work which is outside of BOINC IIRC. Is there another that awards DCC?

You can also look at Bittube which has a Chrome extension that let's your learn while you do Chrome DCP work. https://bit.tube/

I'm using their new chrome extension, and it works great. Earn crypto while surfing.

There's also a CPU coin called Surfcoin, which can be used on any phone or browser. It's very low impact on the system, and can run alongside anything.

Also, UPX is another nice CPU coin.

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 19, 2019, 01:44:47 PM

I thought DCC awards from the SPARC Alpha was over. Now to earn DCC you have to run their work which is outside of BOINC IIRC. Is there another that awards DCC?

You can also look at Bittube which has a Chrome extension that let's your learn while you do Chrome DCP work. https://bit.tube/

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Quote from: cuarc001 on March 19, 2019, 01:44:47 PM

I thought DCC awards from the SPARC Alpha was over. Now to earn DCC you have to run their work which is outside of BOINC IIRC. Is there another that awards DCC?

Gridcoin. Also, you can look at curecoin+foldingcoin, which has a Chrome-based cruncher.

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I thought DCC awards from the SPARC Alpha was over. Now to earn DCC you have to run their work which is outside of BOINC IIRC. Is there another that awards DCC?

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