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PODC is gone.

What coin you guys recommend to mine with my boinc clients if any ?

My stations are old stations, they are good for boinc but not for BLE.
Do you know any other coin that can be mine with old dual core x86 64bit Linux stations ?

Resistance.io has a boinc pool you can join. Same code it seems as grcpool or bbppool.

there's DCC that is web based. you may be able to use some cli chrome based tool to do work like

puppeteer
https://github.com/GoogleChrome/puppeteer

selenium, kantu, etc
https://a9t9.com/kantu

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I'm doing 0Byte. I'm not certain but they may have lowered the payouts some. Still, it's a good deal.

profodc, there are a lot of cpu coins out there. You should join the Cpu Miner's Club, there's always lots of ideas there.
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PODC is gone.

What coin you guys recommend to mine with my boinc clients if any ?

My stations are old stations, they are good for boinc but not for BLE.
Do you know any other coin that can be mine with old dual core x86 64bit Linux stations ?
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Religion and crypto should never be mixed what a ridiculous concept for a coin.

Can you explain your position more? BiblePay has some Christian values like helping the poor. BiblePay thus far donated over $150k USD to charity. My intention is not to boast, but to show the positive the crypto coin has done by supporting charities. Maybe you can explain in more detail why religion and crypto shouldn't be mixed and you feel this is a ridiculous concept?

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Command": "podcupdate",
  "PODCUpdate": "Invalid Destination Address"
}

exec associate rosetta_email rosetta_password true

"Results": "Error: The transaction was rejected! This might happen if some of the coins in your wallet were already spent, such as if you used a copy of wallet.dat and coins were spent in the copy but not marked as spent here."

Does your biblepay.conf have tithe=1 and nickname=supporter setup? If you are doing PoG, some people have been able to do PoDC update by using utxooverride=your-stake-amount , then move that BBP amount to your rosetta address (or non-tithe address) then do an exec associate again . There's some weirdness sometimes when you try to use PoDC and PoG together. You're not the first to report this.

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Maybe ours should say "SlovakiPay" LOL, JK.

theymospay

I noticed there were 76 invalid tithes in one block about 12 hours ago. Block height 106662.

Looks like many of it was bbptoshi - min coin amount was okay, but maybe min coin age was increased after the tithe entered the mempool.

For me, I used to send with 0 fee. But now that txes are crowded sometimes, I use the recommended fee now. And that seems to include the tx in the next block more often.

Can we include a higher fee? The smart fee calculator seems brokens and it won't let us pick higher tx fee.

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Who is PoG @('_')@ Monkey?  

You don't sanitize the nicknames? Maybe make the parser smarter and filter out anything non-alphanumeric between and ?

Who is PoG @('_')@ Monkey?  

Same address has used also StopCrashingBiblePay nick.
I remember seeing this at least yesterday.

I've had the nicknames:
Code:
PoG @('_')@ Monkey

Code:
StopCrashingBiblePay

Code:
((̲̅ ̲̅(̲̅C̲̅r̲̅a̲̅y̲̅o̲̅l̲̲̅̅a̲̅( ̲̅((>

There's some cool 1 line ascii art here: https://1lineart.kulaone.com/#/

If you want, I can list all the nicknames I used.

Why, is that even relevant or important?

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Wait, WHAT?
Sorry, but this is ridiculous. May I remind you that the proposal was not just simply "retire PODC?" but actually "retire PODC in favour of POG?"! So by all that is right, if you now make the (rushed) decision to simply bury POG for good, then this whole proposal/vote has no more legitimacy whatsoever!

So what you're saying now is, we not only give up on POG (which more and more seems to have been in beta stage at best), but also simultaneously bury the ONE system that has worked for more than a year now? And we're going back to our good old trusty botnet-mining?

I hate to say it, but I'm afraid as soon as any exchange is gonna open up our trading again (that is if there is still an exchange patiently enough ...) this coin will dump hard. Sad

PoG was working for the most part. We had some illegal tithe issues (could have been remedied by explicit confirmation count). The nickname can be sanitized. Developers do this as part of SQL injection mitigation. I don't know why code like that isn't there for nicknames, prayer requests, or messages of any type. If its an attack vector, you take reasonable safeguards to prevent it. I think PoG is still viable, but as always, its up to Rob and his 120+ masternodes.

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Btw, stop trying to form hate groups on discord and move users over to your own private channels.  

People's messages are not being deleted if they follow the guidelines here.  

Your messages won't be deleted if they are respectful and helpful and contain the Full truth (not half truths as yours and Nokos have been).

Also, Please stop being disrespectful on our forum.

Thanks for taking our chain down Sun; thats one thing Ive always disliked is hackers in prod.  

If you can't admit weakness in the BBP code, how do you expect to make a better product? You can't admit that not sanitizing the nickname or using a homebrew serialization method is not best coding practice? So far, you can rarely admit you were wrong which means everyone around you by default is wrong. That's no way to live a life nor is a good way to have relationship with others. Why do you think everyone on the BiblePay team (except some devs) are all gone?  You think people like being called "dimwit" and accused of wrongdoing all that time?

I admit I'm human and weak at times. It happens to all of us. Being able to admit your vulnerability and work on your shortcomings, makes you a stronger person in Faith. I hope you can do the same and relate to all of us in a way that earns respect and shows you as a spiritual and sacrificial leader.

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While I know that this has been a frustrating week, let's all take a second to thank MIP/Rob for the tireless dedication they've shown towards fixing these issues. It might feel a little chaotic, but those of us wanting more transparency and clarity in the process are getting it, and now we all know everything that goes into new feature launches and dealing with unforeseen circumstances. I'm sure we'll do things a bit differently in the future, and there are some lessons to be learned no doubt, but let's not forget to have some gratitude either.

Don't get discouraged; we'll come out of this and be able to focus on the mission.

One of the changes I'd like to see is not to use letters in builds.

Everyone that is not compiling the source themselves are confused now. Is it 1.1.9.9a or g?

Some are downloading the binary from biblepay.org/wallet while others are getting the Linux PPA.

We just need to know what we're dealing with. Many of us are ready to help mine the difficulty down with hundreds of core.

I guess we will have to compile the source to be sure: https://www.reddit.com/r/BiblePay/comments/6ummuj/how_to_mine_biblepay_on_linux/

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as a group, we were a much more cohesive community a year ago than we are now.

personal infallibility of epic proportions will do that to a group.
LOL, the original group is still intact except for the troublemakers - which YOU are part of, and thats why Your out.


LOL, get real Rob. You think you know everything and do everything, but it just shows how little you know, especially how to treat people with respect. You crave respect but you don't know the first thing about how to earn respect. I don't work for you and never have. I'm here for the community and to insulate them from your boorish, arrogant, and childish behavior.
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my wallet started crashing in Win 10 lately too. I tried to sync from begining  but, will see. strange thing.

I'm stuck at block 33620 on any wallet I started from scratch.
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my wallet started crashing in Win 10 lately too. I tried to sync from begining  but, will see. strange thing.

I suggest you wait a few more hours, until the new wallet version is available.
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my wallet started crashing in Win 10 lately too. I tried to sync from begining  but, will see. strange thing.
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Hi Guys!

It just sounds great to post knowing it will not be deleted; I had to test it Smiley
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Everything crashed during this night again.

I wonder why he wants to keep erasing posts. He said he was not delete posts, but lately he deletes many. Some are not even criticism.
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Everything crashed during this night again.
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So bigger, your posts will not be deleted here
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I have about 8 unconfirmed tx in my wallet from 12 hours ago.

I tried:

1) tools, repair, rescan
2) tools , repair, zapwallettxes=1
3) resync - remove everything except wallet.dat and biblepay.conf and resync the chain

I want to avoid zapwallettxes=2 because I lose coin age. And its not clear based on zapwallettxes=1 that =2 would solve my issue.

Short of running a new wallet, any other suggestions? I'm guessing my wallet.dat got corrupted from the daily crashes 1198 is experiencing.

thanks.

I don't think you tried -rescan yet, because that removes orphans and rebuilds the entire txlist.

On corruption, you will know if its corrupted after you boot, as there is a wallet check.

If you really want to ensure there is no corruption you can back up your wallet - then remove wallet.dat, and replace it with a backup from the backups folder, and restart, and verify your balance is full.

What OS are you running thats crashing?  Im on the latest in windows and not crashing.  Im only running one thread on the miner though, maybe try running less than 5 threads on the miner.

I just told you I tried -rescan already. I'll try again. I may have to resort to salvaging the wallet or creating a new wallet and import the private keys to the fresh wallet.

I'm running Windows 10 64-bit. Like I said, wallet running only PoDC has not crashed.

The one running PoG with genproclimit=1 and minersleep=950 crashes daily. Do you believe there is an issue with 1198, or it is just me? If you believe, it is just me, then there's nothing to do I suppose. But if you believe this is caused by 1198, I'd like updates on what you propose to do to address the crashes? I know many masternodes on Linux are crashing recently, so I'm lead to it is BBP code and not something specific to my workstation.


Do we have anyone else on the forum in windows 10 that crashes daily?

Yes, on the -rescan, I am saying that from what the code actually does, it clears orphans and reinstates the transaction list based on blockchain data, so yes please try that again and monitor the txlist orphan before and after.  It should not say "offline".  It might say Unconfirmed (broadcast through N nodes) - that is not an orphan in that case.  



Yes, my wallet is crashing in Win 10 as well. Not daily but one time per few days.
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Maybe ours should say "SlovakiPay" LOL, JK.

theymospay

I noticed there were 76 invalid tithes in one block about 12 hours ago. Block height 106662.

Looks like many of it was bbptoshi - min coin amount was okay, but maybe min coin age was increased after the tithe entered the mempool.

For me, I used to send with 0 fee. But now that txes are crowded sometimes, I use the recommended fee now. And that seems to include the tx in the next block more often.

Can we include a higher fee? The smart fee calculator seems brokens and it won't let us pick higher tx fee.

Command": "podcupdate",
  "PODCUpdate": "Invalid Destination Address"
}

exec associate rosetta_email rosetta_password true

"Results": "Error: The transaction was rejected! This might happen if some of the coins in your wallet were already spent, such as if you used a copy of wallet.dat and coins were spent in the copy but not marked as spent here."

Does your biblepay.conf have tithe=1 and nickname=supporter setup? If you are doing PoG, some people have been able to do PoDC update by using utxooverride=your-stake-amount , then move that BBP amount to your rosetta address (or non-tithe address) then do an exec associate again . There's some weirdness sometimes when you try to use PoDC and PoG together. You're not the first to report this.

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Religion and crypto should never be mixed what a ridiculous concept for a coin.

Can you explain your position more? BiblePay has some Christian values like helping the poor. BiblePay thus far donated over $150k USD to charity. My intention is not to boast, but to show the positive the crypto coin has done by supporting charities. Maybe you can explain in more detail why religion and crypto shouldn't be mixed and you feel this is a ridiculous concept?
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More crashes today. More reports of MN crashing today (last count 6 masternodes crashed) along with my Windows QT wallet crashing again after many days of no crashes. It got really quiet after 1198 came out.  Existing builds need more stability. I think DASH evolution can wait until existing product is stabilized. And no, waiting 60 days from now to release DASH evolution rebase is not the answer.
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February 19, 2019, 10:26:12 AM
Don't forget, the community page is only lightly moderated (mostly against profanity and objectively damaging speech).

So by and large, your posts won't be deleted here.   Biblepay has a lot of potential and the dev is certainly responsive to public pressure when its just not an outright attack.

Discuss, debate and improve.  Accept the good the dev has done and accept his faults as well.  Look for solutions and know the dev is most responsive to highly detailed highly solutions that have been implemented already and shown to work.  So if you can code, bang around in the code (it's open) and see if you can fix anything.   Good luck!

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Please try to be less argumentative and prideful, I realize you are trying to prove your point at any cost but its not about "you or me". 


Truthfully 616WestWarmoth doesn't come across as either argumentative or prideful. 

He doesn't spread fear, uncertainty and doubt. He respectfully contributes to the discussion and clearly articulates his position. He asks intelligent questions and gives intelligent responses. He doesn't appear to be trying to prove his point at any cost. In fact it sounds as if he is trying his best to help BiblePay succeed. I wish we had 10,000 more like him on our team.

Imagine how many orphans we could sponsor.

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Please try to be less argumentative and prideful, I realize you are trying to prove your point at any cost but its not about "you or me". 

Truthfully 616WestWarmoth doesn't come across as either argumentative or prideful. 

He doesn't spread fear, uncertainty and doubt. He respectfully contributes to the discussion and clearly articulates his position. He asks intelligent questions and gives intelligent responses. He doesn't appear to be trying to prove his point at any cost. In fact it sounds as if he is trying his best to help BiblePay succeed. I wish we had 10,000 more like him on our team.

Imagine how many orphans we could sponsor.

Thanks!  Maybe some day I will earn enough respect for you to stick up for me when I'm being bashed or sworn at.
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February 19, 2019, 10:07:48 AM
Don't forget, the community page is only lightly moderated (mostly against profanity and objectively damaging speech).

So by and large, your posts won't be deleted here.   Biblepay has a lot of potential and the dev is certainly responsive to public pressure when its just not an outright attack.

Discuss, debate and improve.  Accept the good the dev has done and accept his faults as well.  Look for solutions and know the dev is most responsive to highly detailed highly solutions that have been implemented already and shown to work.  So if you can code, bang around in the code (it's open) and see if you can fix anything.   Good luck!
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February 17, 2019, 12:45:43 PM
The sign of a healthy community is its ability to absorb and process dissension.

There are two ways I know of to enable this. One, is for the community to embrace different viewpoints, and realize the value of perspectives from all--whether dev, investor, casual interested parties (easier said than done)

The second way is to stamp out any differing perspectives, and whittle down the numbers to only the most staunch of true believers, at the cost of diversity. This path is often a downward spiral, as the community has no way to meaningfully affect the coin's path, and the leaders are no longer listening. It can reach levels that appear totalitarian.

The key, and I have no idea how to do this, is to get the leadership a (A) little thicker-skinned (B) and the community communicating in more helpful ways. Those two seem to go hand in hand. If one fails, they both do.

I will not go down the sink just singing the praises of BBP. If BBP is so fragile that any criticism is harmful, then we have a big problem. A strong project can take the criticism in stride, even if it's crude.


Honestly, I wish the lead dev was spending more time fixing existing code, and a lot less time defending BBP against perceived attacks. It doesn't help, and just makes the whole project seem immature (feedback I've gotten before).

Nobody needs to defend BBP. If any criticism is seen as a slight against potential future investors, we've got a bigger problem.

I guess it will come down to, do we value of egos so much that the accusations and infighting (from both "sides") can't be let go of? Or do we realize as Christians, we need to just focus on the coin, and keep our feelings a little more to the side? And can everybody do it?
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January 31, 2019, 03:12:41 AM
Same here. Weak dev is deleting constructive posts again. Welcome back in totalitarian forum.


No, I dont - thats why I asked.  A screenshot does not tell me what the original value is - it tells me what was on the screen in the first shot.....

Please start behaving in a more respectful way. 

I don't have a theme selected. Just for thoroughness, I tried no theme selected, BiblePay, or Dark. It doesn't matter... F5 (refresh) brings up a blank background.

I also ordered $15 subway gift card for 46,750 BBP. Let's see how that goes.

I wouldn't mind if $25 Amazon gift card eDelivery is made an option.

Please test f5 in the pool now (using either theme) - I believe the problem is solved for good.



Wow, its gotten even worse. The top of the page is blank and you have to scroll a full page down to see the white background.

Same here, terrible. I told my collegue to test it on Mac OS, with Chrome same result as in win, with Safari it looks "ok".
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January 20, 2019, 03:25:07 AM
Rob = hypocrite.

@SunK, please do not make posts here that violate the rules in the OP post.  You have posted with swear words and directly attacked me in an unwarranted way - that breaks more than one of the rules.  (Otherwise I will start the ban process with the bitcointalk mods) - you are now considered a Troll - along with SVK Noko.

I don't know how many times you've violated the rules of the OP post. I do not post swear words -- I just post truth about your character. Do you see anyone disagreeing with my assessment?

So, we've gone from me the pool ugly but working to you calling me a troll and all things in between. Does a troll answer questions on social media? Does a troll participate and give feedback on testnet?
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January 19, 2019, 01:47:38 PM

Yikes, that's a lot of AMD Ryzen 1700x on the first URL. That's a lot of new RAC. I just thought grcpool1-2-3 were contributing. There was that guy from Turkey, but I see a lot of new RAC coming on. At least some of them have to stake BBP outside of a pool.
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