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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 08:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

At some point the individual has to bear some responsibility. Sure, gambling away all your money is a bad thing, but I'm sure the kid did it thinking he was going to get rich or something. There are just no shortcuts to wealth unfortunately. Those who try, whether that be from gambling, prostitution, selling drugs, or various other crimes, are usually disappointed. I think trying to find someone to blame isn't always the most beneficial thing. Maybe it was his teacher, parents, friends, or some advertising campaign that led to this problem. Who knows? One thing I do know is that resisting temptation is part of the human experience. Those who fail are often left with consequences from their actions. Sometimes the blame falls on the individual.

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Gambling addiction for an underage may have high responsibility on the parent, it's has become hard for parents to control the actions of their kids and since we are in the computer age kids have access to games through many means.

There's a study that when kids have been into technology at an early age, it could lead them to brain damage. Well, the actual damage isn't all about damaging the brain all along but about the change of attitude which will make them angry if they can't get what they want like for this purpose.
There could really be some short coming from the parents but it's not always the case for the others.

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Quote from: madnessteat on March 16, 2022, 04:07:52 PM

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I think everyone should be responsible for their actions. He was not dragged at gunpoint to the casino. He went there quite deliberately.

A weak person is more likely to blame someone else for his problems than to take responsibility for his own actions and begin to deal with those problems.

Fine. I would like all "accusers" of the gambling or any other industry to have a sense of common sense and reason like you. It must be remembered that "care" for a person who has free will often turns into totalitarianism and violates his rights. But unfortunately there are always more weak people and they set the trend. It is very easy to blame someone for the consequences of your own decision and demand compensation (LOL).

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Quote from: Slow death on March 11, 2022, 03:34:11 PM

I already commented on this in a past post, people shouldn't blame gambling sites or real world or even online casinos because the responsibility to use money and play is the person's, it's not the casino's responsibility to say how each person should use his money and how he should manage his private life, that needs to be clear. in all casinos or anything related to gambling they put in the TOS that minors are prohibited from using the casinos or gambling sites and the reason is quite simple: all people over 18 are adults responsible for themselves . Now about the issue of minors playing, this issue is the responsibility of the child's parents, not the casinos' responsibility

Agreed, at the end of the day people should only gamble a small amount of their money which they can afford to lose, how people expect the casino to know that the money they are betting is in fact money they need to pay a debt or something like that?

The only way for casinos to know this would be to put them in control of your finances and allow them to take a decision of how much you can spend when you gamble, does this makes sense? Of course not, but this shows us the level of responsibility that will need to be handed to the casinos so they could limit the amount of money their gamblers can bet with them in a more effective way, and since this is not going to ever happen then the responsibility to do this belongs to the gamblers and no one else.

Gambling businesses isnt a charity that would be minding off mainly with your finances which is of course they wouldnt really be putting any limit on how much you can spend unless if you do literally asked or made out

some request for it but if not then sky is the limit on how much you could spend out and since this is business then they would really prefer on making people do spend even more.
You are the ones who should be blamed because of the actions that you had made out and not the casino.

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When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

It's true as you said all parties must be involved, not only parents who take a role but the government must also protect the nation's children from falling into gambling, the role of parents is really needed but the role of the government is more feared, because if the government issues law and do it properly, I am optimistic that the nation's children will definitely be awake, plus the world is now sophisticated, it is certain that our parents will never know what we are doing, this is where the role of the government is needed to block all porn sites, and online gambling games..

Although it can still be said to be true, actually the main mistake is those who become addicts because everything mentioned is a forbidden site or will damage the mind and even become addicts but why still do it.
we can't completely blame the government because I believe the government has done a good job and the other reason is technology is man made so other humans will easily beat it even if it has been blocked, and if they know it will have a negative impact why do it because 16 years is enough mature and know what is good or not, and also know when to stop.
and we also can't blame parents if they don't know it and if they find out they will definitely forbid it and they are also busy taking care of and earning a living to support their family.
and as a child he must be self-aware and must be able to control himself if he gets lost, not burden his parents, and if he is smart, any forbidden sites will still exist in any country, even fanatical countries.

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Quote from: Slow death on March 11, 2022, 03:34:11 PM

I already commented on this in a past post, people shouldn't blame gambling sites or real world or even online casinos because the responsibility to use money and play is the person's, it's not the casino's responsibility to say how each person should use his money and how he should manage his private life, that needs to be clear. in all casinos or anything related to gambling they put in the TOS that minors are prohibited from using the casinos or gambling sites and the reason is quite simple: all people over 18 are adults responsible for themselves . Now about the issue of minors playing, this issue is the responsibility of the child's parents, not the casinos' responsibility

Agreed, at the end of the day people should only gamble a small amount of their money which they can afford to lose, how people expect the casino to know that the money they are betting is in fact money they need to pay a debt or something like that?

The only way for casinos to know this would be to put them in control of your finances and allow them to take a decision of how much you can spend when you gamble, does this makes sense? Of course not, but this shows us the level of responsibility that will need to be handed to the casinos so they could limit the amount of money their gamblers can bet with them in a more effective way, and since this is not going to ever happen then the responsibility to do this belongs to the gamblers and no one else.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

If your parents can't keep track of what you do in your free time and what you're interested in, it's ridiculous to expect the state to do that. To fully control a person, you need constant monitoring, but I don't think anyone would like that idea. So if a person has an addiction he stays alone with it. The best option in this situation is to devote to the problems of their relatives and turn to specialists.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 08:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

I think that such stories will appear in the media more and more. Hundreds of thousands or even millions of teenagers did not go out from home to school for many months, but spent their time in front of the computers. Certainly many of them fell into traps set by the marketing tricks of various casinos.
The pandemic situation is unprecedented, so we cannot blame anyone. We have to realize that the consequence of all lockdowns will be these types of new dangers. The only thing we can do now is be aware of it and warn others about it.

As long as teenagers don't use their free time to do positive things and instead use them for negative things, the consequences will surely exist and befall teenagers.
Moreover, if the situation at their home is not conducive, it will add to the chaos of the atmosphere and can make teenagers do things beyond what parents can imagine.
It can make them addicted to gambling but maybe even worse because of various kinds of deviations they can do if they can't control themselves.
If they prefer to spend their time on the internet, they will become addicted to it and may socialize less with other friends.

Unfortunately, this is a very serious problem and often parents are either not aware of it at all or simply do not know how to deal with it. Unfortunately, Youtube, Tiktok, Instagram have become a new world for young people and casinos know about it, so they try to reach them in various ways.
Many streamers show how they win huge amounts in casinos, of course they are fake money and everything is just marketing, but young people who watch it do not know about it and of course they want to try their luck themselves.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 08:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

What a weak argument for placing the blame on gambling. Gambling is obviously not the issue here but rather her pre-existing mental health issues. Gambling just made everything worse.

This reminds me very much of the reason why the Dutch government banned psychedelic mushrooms. A girl who supposedly had a mental illness did psychedelic mushrooms and jumped out of her window. The blame was placed on the magic mushrooms although this was a isolated incident in all the years of the entire population of Netherlands doing mushrooms without any problems.

Was the mental illness blamed? No. Can't outlaw mental illness.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

So you are saying that government agencies should keep an eye on you or rather spy on your activities as your parents are unable to find out about your activities. It is not that hard for parents to look after the children's activities unless they are too busy or don't take interest.
Government can't take responsibility of each and every kid activity, the parents have to play their part. If any child is found in any wrong doing before he gets mature, i will say its 100% parent's fault.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided.

This could be because your parents were both working class people or very busy people that didn't plan their time very well with those of the children. Parents should try to provide time for their children and that will help the children to grow up fine and not to be nuisance in the society. The welfare of children is not directly in the place of government to provide especially where parents are still alive. Government can provide things outside the home like rules and regulations.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

Your point is well taken because you are speaking from the perspective of a child, but I believe your parents are not particularly open to you, for example, do they regularly inquire as to your well-being? or what are you up to these days? I believe you are extremely secretive, even to the point of not telling them anything at all because you are not comfortable telling them. However, you should be aware of the consequences of your actions, and the best part is that you are in control of the situation. The government will assist you, but most people believe that government is ineffective in these situations; therefore, you should resolve the situation by yourself.

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Quote from: paxmao on March 17, 2022, 05:23:49 AM

I think it is actually easier that children get in contact with gaming and betting in the off-line AKA real world than on-line. They will wager with friends at sports or even play occasionally if they manage to enter a site with fake ID or the like. The exception is actually the gaming industry in which sometimes games may introduce forms of betting or staking that may lead youngsters into the activity unadvertedly.

I just knew some young ones from our community who just learned how to gamble outside their home, like influence of the peer they belong or the kind of environment he/she used to watched and curious about those things, well I am talking about the card games type of gambling. Actually I have tried to play card games inside our home but I can say that it is not gambling because there's no money related. Teenagers are always curious about everything, there's nothing bad about it trying but still theres a need of parents guidance and supervision to correct if there's anything wrong.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

I think if parents are clueless on everything technical, they should get someone (a friend or family member) to help them with that, so it should not be used as an excuse. Also, if a child are allowed to sit behind a closed door ..and participate in illegal activities, then the parent are not doing their job.

I say.... have a open door policy.. when your child are not naked or in need of privacy. They should not be behind closed... because that gives them the opportunity to participate in illegal activities that might harm them.

In our family ...we keep the doors to our rooms open and only close it when we need some privacy. We also spend time together most of the time ... so we do not get time to hide secret activities. Wink

When the child is still young and spends a lot of time at home, this measure with open doors and the absence of secret activities is certainly effective.
But what happens when your child grows up and begins to communicate more with his friends. His friends and acquaintances, especially those who are older, can also teach him how to play online casinos. Here, you can't stop it.
Especially if he began to spend a lot of time outside your home.
And it is during such periods that children can become addicted to gambling. And here you can’t even come up with such effective ways as “open doors”

I think it is actually easier that children get in contact with gaming and betting in the off-line AKA real world than on-line. They will wager with friends at sports or even play occasionally if they manage to enter a site with fake ID or the like. The exception is actually the gaming industry in which sometimes games may introduce forms of betting or staking that may lead youngsters into the activity unadvertedly.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

I think if parents are clueless on everything technical, they should get someone (a friend or family member) to help them with that, so it should not be used as an excuse. Also, if a child are allowed to sit behind a closed door ..and participate in illegal activities, then the parent are not doing their job.

I say.... have a open door policy.. when your child are not naked or in need of privacy. They should not be behind closed... because that gives them the opportunity to participate in illegal activities that might harm them.

In our family ...we keep the doors to our rooms open and only close it when we need some privacy. We also spend time together most of the time ... so we do not get time to hide secret activities. Wink

When the child is still young and spends a lot of time at home, this measure with open doors and the absence of secret activities is certainly effective.
But what happens when your child grows up and begins to communicate more with his friends. His friends and acquaintances, especially those who are older, can also teach him how to play online casinos. Here, you can't stop it.
Especially if he began to spend a lot of time outside your home.
And it is during such periods that children can become addicted to gambling. And here you can’t even come up with such effective ways as “open doors”

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

I think if parents are clueless on everything technical, they should get someone (a friend or family member) to help them with that, so it should not be used as an excuse. Also, if a child are allowed to sit behind a closed door ..and participate in illegal activities, then the parent are not doing their job.

I say.... have a open door policy.. when your child are not naked or in need of privacy. They should not be behind closed... because that gives them the opportunity to participate in illegal activities that might harm them.

In our family ...we keep the doors to our rooms open and only close it when we need some privacy. We also spend time together most of the time ... so we do not get time to hide secret activities. Wink

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

I think this is depending on what kind of family we have and how they brought us since childhood.

Because in Our family , My parents tries everything to make us all be responsible , God fearing and not hiding secrets from them (though there are some secrets still But things like gambling and other vises should be told) so not until I graduated from College? me and My Mom and Dad keeps being intact and sharing everything.
so Maybe in yours you can keep secrets? but in ours normally there is none .

But of course Losing someone we love specially our children is really not that easy to take and we will find justice in whatever this may cost .

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Quote from: TopT3ns on March 16, 2022, 08:51:12 PM

Nice adoption ideas should did government about gambling site rule, I think have several countries looks freedom with gambling promoting exactly on football domestic league jersey, I think need have rule adopted if gambling site is not allowed for advertising to public and this effective how to make children not really understood with gambling site. But right now many countries looks have legal for advertising gambling site although they have same rule with gambling is not legal in their country. Have I saw in my football domestic team they advertising gambling site but in my country gambling is not legal.

Where should they advertise their casino if it's not to public? Casino is profit business and they're legal to promote their sites on anywhere they want as long as they can paid the fees. It just depends on the channel or media want to promote casino or not.

What? you said gambling isn't legal on your country, but why do the football team advertise gambling? They can got jailed due to break the laws.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 16, 2022, 09:42:10 PM

When I was 16 my mom and dad was already clueless with most of my activities outside the house, even inside to a certain extent. So it is difficult for them to know whether I am beginning to get hooked on to gambling, porn, solvent, weed, guns, meth, etc. So I think there is also the part in which government agencies should be functioning to their full capacity so that these things could be avoided. I can understand how frustrated the parents of the victim here. Their son is dead.

It's true as you said all parties must be involved, not only parents who take a role but the government must also protect the nation's children from falling into gambling, the role of parents is really needed but the role of the government is more feared, because if the government issues law and do it properly, I am optimistic that the nation's children will definitely be awake, plus the world is now sophisticated, it is certain that our parents will never know what we are doing, this is where the role of the government is needed to block all porn sites, and online gambling games..

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Quote from: noormcs5 on March 08, 2022, 08:07:37 PM

Heartbroken parents say Hull teacher was victim of 'predatory' gambling industry. Whom to blame for this sad incident ?

Both Must be Blamed , the Parents, the community and also the government as I think what is written is a mistake and false of all the said accountable .

I know that Parents are obligated to learn and understand their children activities.

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Why not try to find the root cause here first. Where were the parents when their 16 years old son was addicted to gambling ? They should have monitored his activities and this situation would not have raised. You cannot blame the doctors on insufficient medical treatments when the son could have be taught at home to avoid excessive gambling. I would consider it a negligence on parents behalf as it was their first duty to keep an eye on their children.

but i think this is just a story to tell now because that was happened long time ago and I believe that all have learned their lessons . so Blaming is already on the passed the table .

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