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I'm surprised to see Glenn Beck involved in all this...
Really? His TV show was nothing but loony conspiracy theory stuff that even Fox News was too embarrassed about and killed his show.
In other news, the offenders were known to use cell phones, eat bread with cheese, watch tv, and surf on the Internet. By extension we should now shut down all cell phone networks, ban cell phones, bread, cheese, destruct all TV's and nuke the Intertubes from Orbit, just in case. Questions ? We'll take them later!
I'm surprised to see Glenn Beck involved in all this...
Really? His TV show was nothing but loony conspiracy theory stuff that even Fox News was too embarrassed about and killed his show.
yeah, he seemed to think the saudi link was a big deal - I mean it probably was in that he was designated a terrorist, not just a suspect but these things are so easily swept under the carpet.
I'm surprised to see Glenn Beck involved in all this, with one video having close to a 2M view count.
I would say we don't know. Not sure if it's relevant, either, since the only thing FBI would have been able to contribute was to give them information and materials, but they can just as easily get it off the internet. It's intent and action of the bombers that counts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
It makes easily swayed and manipulated people decide to do something they wouldn't have done on their own. You'd be surprised what power the phrase "the greater good" has over even the most moral of weak minds.
So... darwinism?
Of a sort, I suppose.
I would say we don't know. Not sure if it's relevant, either, since the only thing FBI would have been able to contribute was to give them information and materials, but they can just as easily get it off the internet. It's intent and action of the bombers that counts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
It makes easily swayed and manipulated people decide to do something they wouldn't have done on their own. You'd be surprised what power the phrase "the greater good" has over even the most moral of weak minds.
So... darwinism?
I would say we don't know. Not sure if it's relevant, either, since the only thing FBI would have been able to contribute was to give them information and materials, but they can just as easily get it off the internet. It's intent and action of the bombers that counts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
It makes easily swayed and manipulated people decide to do something they wouldn't have done on their own. You'd be surprised what power the phrase "the greater good" has over even the most moral of weak minds.
so what do you believe when it comes to whistleblowers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc
there are plenty of people that put their jobs and reputation on the line for no apparent gain in regards to events like 9/11 but it seems you choose to ignore them or don't even know they exist through blindly rejecting the conspiracy and not doing any research.
"The mocking of conspiracy theories in the American press and Western media is based on the simplistic argument that reason is on the side of the government and officialdom, not on the fringe of society and civilization.
Anti-conspiracy proponents ludicrously claim that conspiracy theorists are prey to paranoia and irrational thinking without explaining their own faulty reasoning. They put a huge emphasis on labels and none on facts. But they’re not unique. Apparently, name-calling is enough to win a court case in a 21st century American courtroom."
there are plenty of people that put their jobs and reputation on the line for no apparent gain in regards to events like 9/11 but it seems you choose to ignore them or don't even know they exist through blindly rejecting the conspiracy and not doing any research.
"The mocking of conspiracy theories in the American press and Western media is based on the simplistic argument that reason is on the side of the government and officialdom, not on the fringe of society and civilization.
Anti-conspiracy proponents ludicrously claim that conspiracy theorists are prey to paranoia and irrational thinking without explaining their own faulty reasoning. They put a huge emphasis on labels and none on facts. But they’re not unique. Apparently, name-calling is enough to win a court case in a 21st century American courtroom."
Investigative journalism is not what conspiracy theorists do. If only conspiracy theorists would engage in investigative journalism.
As for your last two paragraphs: The mocking of conspiracy theories is not due to the simplistic argument you've stated. Read the article I posted.
I would say we don't know. Not sure if it's relevant, either, since the only thing FBI would have been able to contribute was to give them information and materials, but they can just as easily get it off the internet. It's intent and action of the bombers that counts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
Does this make good people decide to do bad things? Or does this make bad people decide that it's easier for them to do bad things than they thought it would be?
I would say we don't know. Not sure if it's relevant, either, since the only thing FBI would have been able to contribute was to give them information and materials, but they can just as easily get it off the internet. It's intent and action of the bombers that counts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entrapment
I fully agree, we shouldn't freak out and overreact with giving government too much power in hopes of gaining protection when this stuff happens. Way more damage from 9/11 came from us passing rights-infringing homeland security laws and going to stupid wars, than was done by the 9/11 hijackers themselves. But that doesn't require conspiracies.
The two men involved had been on the FBI's "radar" for some time, yet they still asked the public to identify them.
Hundreds of people are on FBI's radar. Couldn't a simpler explanation be that they just needed public's help to identify which ones out of the hundreds are the ones they are looking for?
FBI regularly does these sorts of stings, where they find a susceptible individual, and convince him to try and blow something up. They then give him a fake bomb to plant, and a cell number to call, or a button to push, and tell him that doing so will blow up that bomb. When he does so, they arrest him for attempting to blow up whatever he planted the "bomb" at.
When you think about it, it is inevitable that, sooner or later, one of these things is going to get away from them. Perhaps this is that case.
When you think about it, it is inevitable that, sooner or later, one of these things is going to get away from them. Perhaps this is that case.
Yeah, I'm aware. There have been a few cases of this, but not too many, unless they keep it secret, which would be pointless, since the whole point of that BS is to show the public that they are doing their job and are needed. So, maybe this was that, maybe this was just people acting on their own. I would say we don't know. Not sure if it's relevant, either, since the only thing FBI would have been able to contribute was to give them information and materials, but they can just as easily get it off the internet. It's intent and action of the bombers that counts.
when false flags don't fly http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJgv39GtcJ0
I think the thing that fits all available data best is that one crazy guy had his brain turned to mush by religious extremism, convinced his younger brother to play along, and they made bombs and detonated them in a highly populated area during a highly populated event, which, due to having a lot of people around, needed extra security to police. Note how there are also larger than normal police presences during marches and peaceful gatherings, but no one is claiming that those police are fake, or that they are there to stage a bombing.
The two men involved had been on the FBI's "radar" for some time, yet they still asked the public to identify them.
FBI regularly does these sorts of stings, where they find a susceptible individual, and convince him to try and blow something up. They then give him a fake bomb to plant, and a cell number to call, or a button to push, and tell him that doing so will blow up that bomb. When he does so, they arrest him for attempting to blow up whatever he planted the "bomb" at.
When you think about it, it is inevitable that, sooner or later, one of these things is going to get away from them. Perhaps this is that case.
I think the thing that fits all available data best is that one crazy guy had his brain turned to mush by religious extremism, convinced his younger brother to play along, and they made bombs and detonated them in a highly populated area during a highly populated event, which, due to having a lot of people around, needed extra security to police. Note how there are also larger than normal police presences during marches and peaceful gatherings, but no one is claiming that those police are fake, or that they are there to stage a bombing.
By the way, one of my coworkers is in on this conspiracy. She is claiming that her cousin was one of the people severely injured in that explosion, and put up posters with info and pictures, asking for donations to help with the hospital bills. But, since the whole thing was staged, obviously she's just scamming everyone here, right? 
I believe the current conspiracy theory goes that the second bomb was real, or some such. As I said before, it's much more likely (Occam's razor again) that TPTB are simply making good use of a real incident, or at worst, trained and equipped a couple of patsies. The latter theory would require such a minor modification to their usual SOP that it's actually kinda scary. (Normally, the bomb is fake.)
A third, "mixed" theory is: They were going to "foil" a "terrorist plot" to bomb the Boston marathon, but the operation got out of control, the guys made real bombs, actually set them off, and the people involved panicked. I think this one fits all the available data best.
By the way, one of my coworkers is in on this conspiracy. She is claiming that her cousin was one of the people severely injured in that explosion, and put up posters with info and pictures, asking for donations to help with the hospital bills. But, since the whole thing was staged, obviously she's just scamming everyone here, right?
The last group is just vocally stupid, so they're easy to spot, and they're all idiots, no exceptions.
The first two groups are just more difficult to spot and discern between the stupid sheep and the smart silent types.
The first two groups are just more difficult to spot and discern between the stupid sheep and the smart silent types.
What about the loud stupid sheep?
Again, how can you discern loud stupid sheep from loud people who did the research and know what they are talking about, but who are concerned about idiots spreading idiocy?
Oh yeah, you can review their research and scientific analysis. Sadly, the vocally stupid of the third group think science is "just a far" made up to confuse us.
Personally, I haven't heard too many sheep being loud about things told to them they didn't question. Even Fox News that regurgitates government propaganda is more of a third category than the first.
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