Topic: Boston Marathon Explosions - page 2. (Read 15084 times)
I'm just waiting for more info. I don't trust the govt much but this doesn't pass the smell test for some kind of conspiracy but on the other hand, there are some things which just don't seem to add up. *shrug*.
The last group is just vocally stupid, so they're easy to spot, and they're all idiots, no exceptions.
The first two groups are just more difficult to spot and discern between the stupid sheep and the smart silent types.
The first two groups are just more difficult to spot and discern between the stupid sheep and the smart silent types.
What about the loud stupid sheep?
As for conspiracy theorists, they're idiots for the exact same reason religious apologists and science deniers are: They start from a conclusion (it was an inside job, or god did it, or it's all a hoax), and work their way backwards, specifically looking for things that support their hypothesis while ignoring everything else. Rational, scientific-minded people start with "I don't know," and take all evidence into consideration before coming to a conclusion.
Which makes people who believe the official story without question just as bad, doesn't it?
You have people who don't question, who stay silent. We don't really know about those, since they are silent, but they are just as bad, yes
You have people who do question, but since they don't have answers yet, they stay silent. Or people who already questioned, researched, and came to the most plausible conclusion (occam's raizor), and they also have no reason to speak up, because they know what they need to know
You have people who start with questioning, reach a conclusion, and then start to research, looking for things to support their conclusions. Those are usually the most loud and obnoxious, and stupid/misinformed/ignorant types that we hear from the most. They're the conspiracy theorists, the fire and brimstone preachers and protestors, the AM radio hosts, etc.
The last group is just vocally stupid, so they're easy to spot, and they're all idiots, no exceptions.
The first two groups are just more difficult to spot and discern between the stupid sheep and the smart silent types.
As for conspiracy theorists, they're idiots for the exact same reason religious apologists and science deniers are: They start from a conclusion (it was an inside job, or god did it, or it's all a hoax), and work their way backwards, specifically looking for things that support their hypothesis while ignoring everything else. Rational, scientific-minded people start with "I don't know," and take all evidence into consideration before coming to a conclusion.
Which makes people who believe the official story without question just as bad, doesn't it?
Funny, just reading some random articles - Senator McCain sounds just like Charlie Sheen and others talking about 9/11 here:
http://rt.com/usa/mccain-hagel-benghazi-attack-522/
"Of the information concerning the deaths of four brave Americans," McCain fired back. "The information has not been forthcoming. You obviously believe that it has. I know that it hasn't. And I'll be glad to send you a list of the questions that have not been answered, including 'What did the president do and who did he talk to the night of the attack on Benghazi?'"
http://rt.com/usa/mccain-hagel-benghazi-attack-522/
"Of the information concerning the deaths of four brave Americans," McCain fired back. "The information has not been forthcoming. You obviously believe that it has. I know that it hasn't. And I'll be glad to send you a list of the questions that have not been answered, including 'What did the president do and who did he talk to the night of the attack on Benghazi?'"
What in the actual fuck!? McCain was specifically invited to meetings where Benghazi would be discussed, including closed-door meetings where they would discuss secret stuff, and he HIMSELF refused to go, and now he's claiming that the "information isn't forthcoming?" Who the hell is to blame for not geting the information, when it was offered MULTIPLE TIMES, if not him? What a f'in dumbass...
As for conspiracy theorists, they're idiots for the exact same reason religious apologists and science deniers are: They start from a conclusion (it was an inside job, or god did it, or it's all a hoax), and work their way backwards, specifically looking for things that support their hypothesis while ignoring everything else. Rational, scientific-minded people start with "I don't know," and take all evidence into consideration before coming to a conclusion.
Funny, just reading some random articles - Senator McCain sounds just like Charlie Sheen and others talking about 9/11 here:
http://rt.com/usa/mccain-hagel-benghazi-attack-522/
"Of the information concerning the deaths of four brave Americans," McCain fired back. "The information has not been forthcoming. You obviously believe that it has. I know that it hasn't. And I'll be glad to send you a list of the questions that have not been answered, including 'What did the president do and who did he talk to the night of the attack on Benghazi?'"
what a nut!
http://rt.com/usa/mccain-hagel-benghazi-attack-522/
"Of the information concerning the deaths of four brave Americans," McCain fired back. "The information has not been forthcoming. You obviously believe that it has. I know that it hasn't. And I'll be glad to send you a list of the questions that have not been answered, including 'What did the president do and who did he talk to the night of the attack on Benghazi?'"
what a nut!
so what do you believe when it comes to whistleblowers? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trWcqxrQgcc
there are plenty of people that put their jobs and reputation on the line for no apparent gain in regards to events like 9/11 but it seems you choose to ignore them or don't even know they exist through blindly rejecting the conspiracy and not doing any research.
"The mocking of conspiracy theories in the American press and Western media is based on the simplistic argument that reason is on the side of the government and officialdom, not on the fringe of society and civilization.
Anti-conspiracy proponents ludicrously claim that conspiracy theorists are prey to paranoia and irrational thinking without explaining their own faulty reasoning. They put a huge emphasis on labels and none on facts. But they’re not unique. Apparently, name-calling is enough to win a court case in a 21st century American courtroom."
there are plenty of people that put their jobs and reputation on the line for no apparent gain in regards to events like 9/11 but it seems you choose to ignore them or don't even know they exist through blindly rejecting the conspiracy and not doing any research.
"The mocking of conspiracy theories in the American press and Western media is based on the simplistic argument that reason is on the side of the government and officialdom, not on the fringe of society and civilization.
Anti-conspiracy proponents ludicrously claim that conspiracy theorists are prey to paranoia and irrational thinking without explaining their own faulty reasoning. They put a huge emphasis on labels and none on facts. But they’re not unique. Apparently, name-calling is enough to win a court case in a 21st century American courtroom."
It's kinda frustrating, I've now seen video of spectators running toward the blast area filming and being told to get the hell out so what evidence there is has already been filtered, all we have is what they might have missed.
Confirmed: This Is Tamerlan Tsarnaev Being Arrested? 2013
They're having a hard time explaining this one away.
They're having a hard time explaining this one away.
To be fair, "actors" doesn't always mean thespians. Is suspicious, though.
He would have been better off if he didn't immediately correct himself, for the term used wouldn't have been too far off base.
To be fair, "actors" doesn't always mean thespians. Is suspicious, though.
He would have been better off if he didn't immediately correct himself, for the term used wouldn't have been too far off base.
watch his eyes nothing but lies
nice one - unfortunately it reminds me of Larry Silverstein's slip of saying 'pull it' regarding building 7 which hasn't helped at all!
To be fair, "actors" doesn't always mean thespians. Is suspicious, though.
this guy's a bit over the top but seems to have convinced a few with the documents etc he's describing so what the hell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHym0NyR05s
how do you know what I've done? I scoured the web for images for like 3 hours just on that one item, you're probably assuming like so many others that the theory is that the guy in the hospital is meant to be Vogt and it's not, just the guy at the marathon - different people. That video just talked about the scars but had links to other references.
BTW, there was some argument as to whether Nick Vogt (ex-army amputee) was playing the part of Jeff Bauman in the marathon.
It's pretty much confirmed - even outside the following video, the guy at the marathon was found to have a pinky missing as per Nick Vogt and his very unique hairline matches up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhwLYrRWUG8
It's pretty much confirmed - even outside the following video, the guy at the marathon was found to have a pinky missing as per Nick Vogt and his very unique hairline matches up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhwLYrRWUG8
You really have to stop with this garbage. Instead of actively seeking out the outlandish crap produced by those who have an agenda to both absorb conspiracy material because they already believe it and manufacture it as well, what you should do, if you had any common sense at all, is seek to verify it or refute it. Don't you think, that if you actually attempted to start verifying or refuting, you would actually find something worthwhile out?
You can and should do some of your own homework here. You can verify or refute your above claim. Two ways to do it: find information out there on the Internet which refutes it, or physically go find these people and talk to them. You're not bothering to do method number 1, and you won't do method number 2. Otherwise, you're accomplishing nothing but rubbing the backs of other nuts, and convincing nobody else. So what's the point? Do some real research, instead of reposting the ravings of other nuts. That's not how the truth is discovered. Be a skeptic of your own beliefs for a day, and actively attempt to refute a claim such as the one you just made, and then I think your tune will change.
Also, not only is their no evidence his pinky is missing, there are very clear photos showing his pinky is not missing (on left hand).
Apparently the bombers are claiming to have acted in "self defence" before the drones hit them. Yes, this globe is one crazy place.
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