That's what most people say before doing any research - fact is we don't even know how many of the disaster service personnel are even real, eg. some of the Craft International guys in Boston were dressed as police officers at Sandy Hook. Not everyone on the scene needed to be in on it though.
Another connection is the Greenberg's at Sandy Hook, at least one of them played a victim in Boston too - just one of many that was covered in blood but had no visible injuries. I also noticed a bunch of people with torn clothes but no visible injuries or blood, how lucky is that!?
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A clothe being moved seems possible, albeit it moves too fluidly. That explanation does give me a little doubt on my original theory but not much.
I just found this on TB talking about the library explosion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luyvA6BbdEo
I've yet to read any of the myriad of sites claiming false flag, sans the one linked from this thread, coupled with only viewing YT videos, hence being not fully up to speed as to what's out there.
This episode sure does have Alex Jones riled up though.
I just found this on TB talking about the library explosion. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luyvA6BbdEo
I've yet to read any of the myriad of sites claiming false flag, sans the one linked from this thread, coupled with only viewing YT videos, hence being not fully up to speed as to what's out there.
This episode sure does have Alex Jones riled up though.
I have worked with FEMA and other agencies for many years as an emergency responder.
In my experience, people that depend on or have depended on government contracts for their living have a pre-determined bias. I think I posted this but will repost it for emphasis:
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"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it."
-Upton Sinclair
-Upton Sinclair
As an example, I'll use a now deceased member of my family. He was a cryptographer for the NSA from the 1950's until he retired. He refused to, and was probably unable to, see the crimes committed by his employer. His salary, and his later pension, blinded him to the basic right and wrong of what his agency and the government were engaged in. The crying shame of it is that he was a brilliant man in every way except for his ethical sense.
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You guys need to put down the crack pipe and breath some fresh air.
I started being called a "conspiracy theorist" in the 1970's by a member of my family that was later proved very wrong in his assertions and for which my later research proved me closer to the mark than a longtime employee of the NSA was. You'll have to do better than "crack pipe", pal.
So this was an "inside" secret government job? P-lease. I have worked with FEMA and other agencies for many years as an emergency responder. Anyone who thinks that there are people in disaster services who would go along with blowing up the Boston Marathon has never even met us. You guys need to put down the crack pipe and breath some fresh air.
Wired article: http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2013/04/cult-of-tsarnaev/
There's a comment on the article, currently at the top, and he lists several stereotypes of the people who perpetuate these things. Most of you guys seem to be a mix of 1 and 4.
There's a comment on the article, currently at the top, and he lists several stereotypes of the people who perpetuate these things. Most of you guys seem to be a mix of 1 and 4.
Watch the link below very closely at the extreme right hand side of the screen and you'll understand.
No, it's not some nefarious media setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=146s
No, it's not some nefarious media setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=146s
TBH, it does look like a flag or some piece of red cloth being pulled away. It's difficult to tell what's going on there, because we can only see what the camera sees.
A reasonable explanation: somebody was moving some apparatus that had hooked the fabric, and as they moved the apparatus, it pulled the fabric. Of course, nobody will know, but I refuse to attach any significance to it.
Watch the link below very closely at the extreme right hand side of the screen and you'll understand.
No, it's not some nefarious media setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=146s
No, it's not some nefarious media setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=146s
TBH, it does look like a flag or some piece of red cloth being pulled away. It's difficult to tell what's going on there, because we can only see what the camera sees.
FYI - this has recently been confirmed by the aunt as being the older brother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=hkr4mEIKPe0
whether he was killed after the fact or the pic of the dead body is fake or not him, who knows but I'm leaning towards the latter.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=hkr4mEIKPe0
whether he was killed after the fact or the pic of the dead body is fake or not him, who knows but I'm leaning towards the latter.
I'm sorry, but where did the real spectators (not actors) get the memo that the whole thing was going to be staged? Or let me guess, the marathon never happened!
I'm sure there were plenty of real spectators nearby, they needed only to reserve that small section.
There's a whole lot of other issues with the story but let's see you explain the link posted earlier in this thread: http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Not only does the blood looks fake but did you see the bottle of blood in the pic? What's a bottle of blood doing there?
Why did the glass in the building blow outwards?
Why was this guy who lost 2 legs the last to get any attention, why was he and others around him so nonchalant about being blown the fuck up?
Did you notice the pic of him with no legs in an army uniform? don't you think it's him? if it is him, there should be no doubt.
Finally the dodgy early video footage of the blast showed there were actually no people where the flash / smoke bomb went off, strange - it was right near the finish line, it should have been packed there.
If you need a motive - how about the fact that CISPA was passed as well as Obama, Clinton and Bush being indicted for war crimes right when this happened - just as Bin Laden was (apparently) killed the day after Obama was found to have a fake birth certificate - ie. distractions.
In addition, just as per sandy hook with the gun control, a senator has already written a bill to regulate the purchase of gun powder.
It seems over the top but to see drastic change in the constitution, they probably feel they have to stage these events. I actually don't believe anyone was killed here, nor at sandy hook - look at previous real events and you see a whole lot more evidence that there were deaths and obviously to stage such a thing, you'll have a much easier time getting people on board with a harmless sham for a greater good that may save lives (such as gun control).
Btw, I didn't jump to conclusions about this being a conspiracy, it had all the signs - there is video of a guy on local tv saying that before the race they were running a bomb drill, don't be alarmed etc, he reckons he had been attending marathons all over and had never seen anything like it. These drills are known to coincide with evens like Sandy Hook, the London bombings and others so that if they are caught in the act they can say 'it's just a drill!'
Then there was the media totally ignoring what the public was pointing out - the Craft International (private militia) guys who were also in a police uniforms at Sandy Hook, they were in the exact area of the blast and had backpacks that matched the shredded backpack that was found - unlike the actual suspects, they were also seen leaving the scene without a backpack. There was a photo of one of the official suspects leaving the scene, it seemed that the backpack was photoshopped out.
There have been witness accounts saying that the police ran over the suspect that was killed, not his brother - why would you stick your neck out and say that?
Same goes for any of us seeking the truth, we get nothing out of it but the hope of seeing justice done all the while being labelled whack jobs, conspiracy nuts etc thanks to hugely effective job the mainstream media has done drilling this into the general public.
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Not only does the blood looks fake but did you see the bottle of blood in the pic? What's a bottle of blood doing there?
Why did the glass in the building blow outwards?
Why was this guy who lost 2 legs the last to get any attention, why was he and others around him so nonchalant about being blown the fuck up?
Did you notice the pic of him with no legs in an army uniform? don't you think it's him? if it is him, there should be no doubt.
Finally the dodgy early video footage of the blast showed there were actually no people where the flash / smoke bomb went off, strange - it was right near the finish line, it should have been packed there.
If you need a motive - how about the fact that CISPA was passed as well as Obama, Clinton and Bush being indicted for war crimes right when this happened - just as Bin Laden was (apparently) killed the day after Obama was found to have a fake birth certificate - ie. distractions.
In addition, just as per sandy hook with the gun control, a senator has already written a bill to regulate the purchase of gun powder.
It seems over the top but to see drastic change in the constitution, they probably feel they have to stage these events. I actually don't believe anyone was killed here, nor at sandy hook - look at previous real events and you see a whole lot more evidence that there were deaths and obviously to stage such a thing, you'll have a much easier time getting people on board with a harmless sham for a greater good that may save lives (such as gun control).
Btw, I didn't jump to conclusions about this being a conspiracy, it had all the signs - there is video of a guy on local tv saying that before the race they were running a bomb drill, don't be alarmed etc, he reckons he had been attending marathons all over and had never seen anything like it. These drills are known to coincide with evens like Sandy Hook, the London bombings and others so that if they are caught in the act they can say 'it's just a drill!'
Then there was the media totally ignoring what the public was pointing out - the Craft International (private militia) guys who were also in a police uniforms at Sandy Hook, they were in the exact area of the blast and had backpacks that matched the shredded backpack that was found - unlike the actual suspects, they were also seen leaving the scene without a backpack. There was a photo of one of the official suspects leaving the scene, it seemed that the backpack was photoshopped out.
There have been witness accounts saying that the police ran over the suspect that was killed, not his brother - why would you stick your neck out and say that?
Same goes for any of us seeking the truth, we get nothing out of it but the hope of seeing justice done all the while being labelled whack jobs, conspiracy nuts etc thanks to hugely effective job the mainstream media has done drilling this into the general public.
I could punch holes in a many of the points above, but that's not what I came here to do.
I opted to not believe that no way this was a false flag event until, that is, a video caught my eye. Then I hunted down the actually footage from ABC.
Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=150s
If you don't know what you're looking at, take a look at this 33s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bYdYQfBE8
Sloppy editing/splicing, for there's even a crack in the female's voice, and she's supposed to be broadcasting live from Washington.
I assume Alex Jones is all over this, but I'm not sure. I found it by accident.
Watch the link below very closely at the extreme right hand side of the screen and you'll understand.
No, it's not some nefarious media setup.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=146s
There's a whole lot of other issues with the story but let's see you explain the link posted earlier in this thread: http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
I might have to reserve the same comments for your analysis as I did to the last guy.
I'm sorry, but where did the real spectators (not actors) get the memo that the whole thing was going to be staged? Or let me guess, the marathon never happened!
yea I dunno - it may be just some red material being dragged away.. I wouldn't make a big deal of it anyway, the only way to get the cynics to stop and think is to provide evidence without any reasonable alternative explanation, it doesn't seem to matter whether there is like 500 oddities in a given scenario, no matter the odds of it occurring - if they can be explained away individually, they will be.
Were not going to have to call in Myth Busters again are we? They debunked the whole 'Twin towers planted bombs' and what not...
Did they? I don't recall seeing that episode. What I do recall is them very forcefully saying that they were not going to address that theory, and any requests for them to do so on their fansite get summarily deleted.
They did do a fine job debunking the major claims of the moon landing conspiracy theorists.
yea I dunno - it may be just some red material being dragged away.. I wouldn't make a big deal of it anyway, the only way to get the cynics to stop and think is to provide evidence without any reasonable alternative explanation, it doesn't seem to matter whether there is like 500 oddities in a given scenario, no matter the odds of it occurring - if they can be explained away individually, they will be.
Were not going to have to call in Myth Busters again are we? They debunked the whole 'Twin towers planted bombs' and what not, they could do this in a second. Plus there is soo much footage, there's got to be another angle on this thing. It's not necessarily gore just because its red. If it was gore, could have just been edited out for daytime tv but missed a bit. Too many factors to jump and assume a conspiracy fabricated just days even hours after the incident.
Think of it this way, would you seriously bring up the conspiracy in conversation? Without looking an idiot...
yea I dunno - it may be just some red material being dragged away.. I wouldn't make a big deal of it anyway, the only way to get the cynics to stop and think is to provide evidence without any reasonable alternative explanation, it doesn't seem to matter whether there is like 500 oddities in a given scenario, no matter the odds of it occurring - if they can be explained away individually, they will be.
There's a whole lot of other issues with the story but let's see you explain the link posted earlier in this thread: http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Not only does the blood looks fake but did you see the bottle of blood in the pic? What's a bottle of blood doing there?
Why did the glass in the building blow outwards?
Why was this guy who lost 2 legs the last to get any attention, why was he and others around him so nonchalant about being blown the fuck up?
Did you notice the pic of him with no legs in an army uniform? don't you think it's him? if it is him, there should be no doubt.
Finally the dodgy early video footage of the blast showed there were actually no people where the flash / smoke bomb went off, strange - it was right near the finish line, it should have been packed there.
If you need a motive - how about the fact that CISPA was passed as well as Obama, Clinton and Bush being indicted for war crimes right when this happened - just as Bin Laden was (apparently) killed the day after Obama was found to have a fake birth certificate - ie. distractions.
In addition, just as per sandy hook with the gun control, a senator has already written a bill to regulate the purchase of gun powder.
It seems over the top but to see drastic change in the constitution, they probably feel they have to stage these events. I actually don't believe anyone was killed here, nor at sandy hook - look at previous real events and you see a whole lot more evidence that there were deaths and obviously to stage such a thing, you'll have a much easier time getting people on board with a harmless sham for a greater good that may save lives (such as gun control).
Btw, I didn't jump to conclusions about this being a conspiracy, it had all the signs - there is video of a guy on local tv saying that before the race they were running a bomb drill, don't be alarmed etc, he reckons he had been attending marathons all over and had never seen anything like it. These drills are known to coincide with evens like Sandy Hook, the London bombings and others so that if they are caught in the act they can say 'it's just a drill!'
Then there was the media totally ignoring what the public was pointing out - the Craft International (private militia) guys who were also in a police uniforms at Sandy Hook, they were in the exact area of the blast and had backpacks that matched the shredded backpack that was found - unlike the actual suspects, they were also seen leaving the scene without a backpack. There was a photo of one of the official suspects leaving the scene, it seemed that the backpack was photoshopped out.
There have been witness accounts saying that the police ran over the suspect that was killed, not his brother - why would you stick your neck out and say that?
Same goes for any of us seeking the truth, we get nothing out of it but the hope of seeing justice done all the while being labelled whack jobs, conspiracy nuts etc thanks to hugely effective job the mainstream media has done drilling this into the general public.
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Not only does the blood looks fake but did you see the bottle of blood in the pic? What's a bottle of blood doing there?
Why did the glass in the building blow outwards?
Why was this guy who lost 2 legs the last to get any attention, why was he and others around him so nonchalant about being blown the fuck up?
Did you notice the pic of him with no legs in an army uniform? don't you think it's him? if it is him, there should be no doubt.
Finally the dodgy early video footage of the blast showed there were actually no people where the flash / smoke bomb went off, strange - it was right near the finish line, it should have been packed there.
If you need a motive - how about the fact that CISPA was passed as well as Obama, Clinton and Bush being indicted for war crimes right when this happened - just as Bin Laden was (apparently) killed the day after Obama was found to have a fake birth certificate - ie. distractions.
In addition, just as per sandy hook with the gun control, a senator has already written a bill to regulate the purchase of gun powder.
It seems over the top but to see drastic change in the constitution, they probably feel they have to stage these events. I actually don't believe anyone was killed here, nor at sandy hook - look at previous real events and you see a whole lot more evidence that there were deaths and obviously to stage such a thing, you'll have a much easier time getting people on board with a harmless sham for a greater good that may save lives (such as gun control).
Btw, I didn't jump to conclusions about this being a conspiracy, it had all the signs - there is video of a guy on local tv saying that before the race they were running a bomb drill, don't be alarmed etc, he reckons he had been attending marathons all over and had never seen anything like it. These drills are known to coincide with evens like Sandy Hook, the London bombings and others so that if they are caught in the act they can say 'it's just a drill!'
Then there was the media totally ignoring what the public was pointing out - the Craft International (private militia) guys who were also in a police uniforms at Sandy Hook, they were in the exact area of the blast and had backpacks that matched the shredded backpack that was found - unlike the actual suspects, they were also seen leaving the scene without a backpack. There was a photo of one of the official suspects leaving the scene, it seemed that the backpack was photoshopped out.
There have been witness accounts saying that the police ran over the suspect that was killed, not his brother - why would you stick your neck out and say that?
Same goes for any of us seeking the truth, we get nothing out of it but the hope of seeing justice done all the while being labelled whack jobs, conspiracy nuts etc thanks to hugely effective job the mainstream media has done drilling this into the general public.
I could punch holes in a many of the points above, but that's not what I came here to do.
I opted to not believe that no way this was a false flag event until, that is, a video caught my eye. Then I hunted down the actually footage from ABC.
Take a look at this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=2P5ATXS9OiQ#t=150s
If you don't know what you're looking at, take a look at this 33s video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2bYdYQfBE8
Sloppy editing/splicing, for there's even a crack in the female's voice, and she's supposed to be broadcasting live from Washington.
I assume Alex Jones is all over this, but I'm not sure. I found it by accident.
There's a whole lot of other issues with the story but let's see you explain the link posted earlier in this thread: http://buelahman.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/are-you-just-a-believer-or-do-you-think
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Not only does the blood looks fake but did you see the bottle of blood in the pic? What's a bottle of blood doing there?
Why did the glass in the building blow outwards?
Why was this guy who lost 2 legs the last to get any attention, why was he and others around him so nonchalant about being blown the fuck up?
Did you notice the pic of him with no legs in an army uniform? don't you think it's him? if it is him, there should be no doubt.
Finally the dodgy early video footage of the blast showed there were actually no people where the flash / smoke bomb went off, strange - it was right near the finish line, it should have been packed there.
If you need a motive - how about the fact that CISPA was passed as well as Obama, Clinton and Bush being indicted for war crimes right when this happened - just as Bin Laden was (apparently) killed the day after Obama was found to have a fake birth certificate - ie. distractions.
In addition, just as per sandy hook with the gun control, a senator has already written a bill to regulate the purchase of gun powder.
It seems over the top but to see drastic change in the constitution, they probably feel they have to stage these events. I actually don't believe anyone was killed here, nor at sandy hook - look at previous real events and you see a whole lot more evidence that there were deaths and obviously to stage such a thing, you'll have a much easier time getting people on board with a harmless sham for a greater good that may save lives (such as gun control).
Btw, I didn't jump to conclusions about this being a conspiracy, it had all the signs - there is video of a guy on local tv saying that before the race they were running a bomb drill, don't be alarmed etc, he reckons he had been attending marathons all over and had never seen anything like it. These drills are known to coincide with evens like Sandy Hook, the London bombings and others so that if they are caught in the act they can say 'it's just a drill!'
Then there was the media totally ignoring what the public was pointing out - the Craft International (private militia) guys who were also in a police uniforms at Sandy Hook, they were in the exact area of the blast and had backpacks that matched the shredded backpack that was found - unlike the actual suspects, they were also seen leaving the scene without a backpack. There was a photo of one of the official suspects leaving the scene, it seemed that the backpack was photoshopped out.
There have been witness accounts saying that the police ran over the suspect that was killed, not his brother - why would you stick your neck out and say that?
Same goes for any of us seeking the truth, we get nothing out of it but the hope of seeing justice done all the while being labelled whack jobs, conspiracy nuts etc thanks to hugely effective job the mainstream media has done drilling this into the general public.
Firstly don't you think it's odd to put someone who lost both legs in a wheelchair rather than stretcher, it's only going to cause more blood loss - obviously I'm no doctor but hey google tells me I guessed right:
"lie the victim flat, with the feet raised 12 inches above the surface.". There wasn't a drop of blood to be found along the path he was pushed in the wheelchair either.
Not only does the blood looks fake but did you see the bottle of blood in the pic? What's a bottle of blood doing there?
Why did the glass in the building blow outwards?
Why was this guy who lost 2 legs the last to get any attention, why was he and others around him so nonchalant about being blown the fuck up?
Did you notice the pic of him with no legs in an army uniform? don't you think it's him? if it is him, there should be no doubt.
Finally the dodgy early video footage of the blast showed there were actually no people where the flash / smoke bomb went off, strange - it was right near the finish line, it should have been packed there.
If you need a motive - how about the fact that CISPA was passed as well as Obama, Clinton and Bush being indicted for war crimes right when this happened - just as Bin Laden was (apparently) killed the day after Obama was found to have a fake birth certificate - ie. distractions.
In addition, just as per sandy hook with the gun control, a senator has already written a bill to regulate the purchase of gun powder.
It seems over the top but to see drastic change in the constitution, they probably feel they have to stage these events. I actually don't believe anyone was killed here, nor at sandy hook - look at previous real events and you see a whole lot more evidence that there were deaths and obviously to stage such a thing, you'll have a much easier time getting people on board with a harmless sham for a greater good that may save lives (such as gun control).
Btw, I didn't jump to conclusions about this being a conspiracy, it had all the signs - there is video of a guy on local tv saying that before the race they were running a bomb drill, don't be alarmed etc, he reckons he had been attending marathons all over and had never seen anything like it. These drills are known to coincide with evens like Sandy Hook, the London bombings and others so that if they are caught in the act they can say 'it's just a drill!'
Then there was the media totally ignoring what the public was pointing out - the Craft International (private militia) guys who were also in a police uniforms at Sandy Hook, they were in the exact area of the blast and had backpacks that matched the shredded backpack that was found - unlike the actual suspects, they were also seen leaving the scene without a backpack. There was a photo of one of the official suspects leaving the scene, it seemed that the backpack was photoshopped out.
There have been witness accounts saying that the police ran over the suspect that was killed, not his brother - why would you stick your neck out and say that?
Same goes for any of us seeking the truth, we get nothing out of it but the hope of seeing justice done all the while being labelled whack jobs, conspiracy nuts etc thanks to hugely effective job the mainstream media has done drilling this into the general public.
your loser fucked up lazy ass cop out
Incivility gets you *plonked!*.
Take care.
*plonked*, but not refuted. And thus, I hit the nail on the head. Your answer was indeed a loser fucked up lazy ass cop out. And because of that, please refrain from spouting your nonsense any further unless you think it through.
your loser fucked up lazy ass cop out
Incivility gets you *plonked!*.
Take care.
Explain the fire fight given what I have explained to you.
It's a waste of time to pull government/media stories apart. I don't waste my time trying to figure out what known liars and fools are saying.
It's not a waste of time when you make such a claim. The fact is, you don't want to apply rational logic to your demented beliefs because they'll fall apart.
You're worse than a conspiracy theorist. You're a lazy assed conspiracy theorist who can't even spend the time demonstrating any validity to your theories. Instead, you simply buy into the conspiracy without applying your thought process to it. That, by definition, makes you not only deluded, but a sheep.
Either shut the fuck up about your ideas or back them up. Do not give me your loser fucked up lazy ass cop out answer that you don't waste your time on such things. You can start by demonstrating how the pipe bomb scenario works in your fantasy view of the world, factoring in the conundrums I proposed.
Explain the fire fight given what I have explained to you.
It's a waste of time to pull government/media stories apart. I don't waste my time trying to figure out what known liars and fools are saying.
The tactics of the State and those drawn to its power haven't changed in 2000 years. America 2013 is no different in quality from any other burgeoning police state that's existed in history, though the quantity of bullshit being produced as the Police State edifice is being raised is of historical depth.
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