Topic: [Boxing] Beterbiev vs. Bivol - Undisputed Light Heavyweight Championship - page 2. (Read 3554 times)

Yes, no one could forget about the scoring on the fight GGG vs Canelo fight, and as I have said, GGG could have been rewarded by the win, but the judges really screw him up and had the fight on a draw.

So in this case, it should be at least a draw for me, but there is one judges who awarded Beterbiev with a 4 point swing. And someone already posted the numbers in this fight and as we can see numbers don't lie as Bivol is ahead. Hopefully that referee that has given the fight ot Beterbiev should be investigated and then suspended from judging big fights again in the future.

Yes, what Beterbiev says that he is not satisfied with his performance, and Bivol says he accept what the decision of the judges. So there is respect in both of them and maybe since both are Russians, that could be the very reason why there is no finger pointing or accusations after that fight. For sure, both could be ready for a rematch and it HE Turki could have been working with that already. This is still very controversial ending, it can go either way as we have said. That's why it's really good to have a rematch next year, and hopefully both are willing to make another round of their fight. And we might see new strategies like Bivol should be really let his hands go or Beterbiev going in for a knockout win.

This is the argument that I have created in this thread before the fight! However, if you were watching the fight, it very much appeared that Beterbiev had more stronger punches thrown on Bivol. Also, it was the forceful pressure that Beterbiev has created. This has forced Bivol to walk backward and cornered by Beterbiev on the rope. Bivol has also appeared to not be very comfortable against Beterbiev.

This is a very good performance for Beterbiev and a not very good performance for Bivol if we consider that Beterbiev is 39 years old already and he had a knee surgery before this fight.

Here are the statistics of the total punches thrown and landed for each of them. These seem to be the most quoted ones, so hopefully the most accurate, but I've seen some post-fight video analysis quoting significantly different figures, so who knows.

Either way, it looks like Artur managed to convince judges with the volume alone rather than accuracy. I believe good defence should have been counted in Bivol's favour but it doesn't look like that was the case in this fight.

It's very good that you remembered the Canelo and GGG fight, because it seems that just after their first fight then suspended the judge who awarded the victory by a large margin to Canelo, I think her name was Adelaide Byrd. So here the situation is similar and apparently Bivol's team wants to do the same with this referee, so that at least he will be suspended from serious matches, if the result can not be changed.

If there was any fighter who had reason to complain, it would’ve been Bivol, but he didn’t. He just showed how professional he is as a boxer and respected Beterbiev, accepting the defeat with grace, even though the fans were divided. I’m not sure about the latest developments or if a rematch is in the works, but if it happens, I’m sure fans would love to see it again. There was never a dull moment in their fight- they don’t talk much, but it’s like fireworks when they step into the ring. Fans were definitely satisfied seeing all the rounds of that bout.

What I like about their fight, that after results were announced, nobody start throwing poop and dirty talks. Nobody said that opponent cheated, judges stole victory, got robbed and so on. Both had great respect towards each other. I think that both will be ready for a rematch and both find each others opponent as an interesting challenge that they would repeat. I think I would be right to say that everyone wants a rematch now

Referees scoring a fight used to be common but not so much anymore. In the UK, referees are the only ones who score a fight if it is a non-title fight. The fights in Saudi Arabia were sanctioned by the BBofC but they did not use the British rules and instead they had three judges scoring fights.

Now that Beterbiev has had 12 full rounds to study Bivol, he will not be off to such a slow start in the rematch. Bivol does not have as much room for improvement and so I feel that Beterbiev will win more convincingly if there’s a second fight.

You have made a headshaking argument without considering that Bivol is also a champion in light heavyweight division and also who defeated Canelo. Did you expect that Beterbiev can give Bivol a knockout easily? Did you also see the odds on the sportsbooks? Beterbiev was the underdog for this fight. Much of the boxing analysts thought Bivol would have the victory hehehehe. However, it was Beterbiev who exposed Bivol with his pressure and his powerful punches to the body of Bivol. No one has done this to him before. I reckon Canelo tried a similar tactic on Bivol but he was not successful. It was Beterbiev who has done a similar tactic and he was successful.

LOL, it's just probably a typo, referee doesn't score the fight, we have 3 judges who look to score the fight and hopefully it's not a biased scoring. But one judge here score the bout in favor of Beterbiev by a lopsided 4 points.


Exactly, we can compare this to the first GGG vs Canelo fight, it's somewhat controversial as we have thought that GGG did enough to win the fight, but it did end up in a draw. But here Beterbiev won but still very controversial that we are all divided or somewhat large portion of us see that Bivol should have won the fight or at least the fight should be a draw. So there should be a rematch to settle the controversy. If Beterbiev won convincingly then it's 2-0 and a trilogy is not needed. But if Bivol makes the score 1-1, then we should be expected a final fight between this two.

He admitted it already that he is not satisfied with his performance,


https://www.boxingscene.com/artur-beterbiev-didnt-like-fight-still-beats-brilliant-dmitry-bivol--186444

And if he is not, then we hope that Bob Arum will want a rematch with Bivol. Eddie Hearn is fuming about the result and for some boxing analyst, I see them saying that it could have been a very close fight and a draw might be the best. But there was one judges who favors and give Beterbiev a 4 point win, which is really not the majority of us see in this fight.

The referees' votes were extraordinary. This match could have been a draw at best.
I think Beterbiev won one or two rounds in total. Beterbiev did not give the audience the feeling of winning the match throughout the fight.
Although the match was good in terms of viewing pleasure, in my opinion it was not a fair vote.

The result of the match can not be denied, it seems that there was no such case in history, but the point is that Bivol's team wants the referee who put 116-112 in favor of Beterbiev to be held accountable.
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/10/dmitry-bivols-team-to-file-protest-over-defeat/
“'We're going to file a protest on Monday. I think the judge has to at least have some kind of responsibility for what he did,” said Bivol's manager, Vadim Kornilov, to BoxNation. The reason Bivol lost wasn't because of the judge, who had it 8-4 for Beterbiev.”

I think also they did it for the future rematch if this is can be done so that in case of a rematch there will be no more such biased decisions of the judges as in the last fight.

Seriously, did I miss something? Since when does the referee score in boxing? Hopefully, this is just a typo, because otherwise, I’ll blame myself for not keeping up with the new rules. Anyway, a rematch is definitely necessary, especially since fans are split on what they saw. If Beterbiev wins the rematch, he needs to make it convincing so there’s no need for a trilogy.

I agree with you that Bivol and Beterbiev are the strongest welterweights in the world right now and although Benavides also has great stats at 29-0, Bivol and Beterbiev could very well beat him.
Bivol's team has appealed the suspension of the referee who scored it 116-112 for Beterbiev.
I think that Beterbiev is definitely ready for a rematch, because now Beterbiev has confidence that he can beat Bivol, but with Benavides I think it's a question of the fee, which should be more than the 10-20 million that Beterbiev got for the first match.

Beterbiev "MUST" accept it or else, it might affect his reputation and might be labeled as "COWARD" if he will not.
I know he made history as the first fighter to unify those 4 belts at his own division, but not considering a rematch against his so-called "Rival" is not an option knowing they're fighters. Also, fans wanted it as well.

Many though that Bivol was robbed including those analysts which I find funny, but TBH there's some truth in it. In fact, I would call the fight a split draw instead of a majority decision. I'm not good at scoring, but I'm just basing it on what I watched so... yeah, but I expect a trilogy between these 2 fighters. Now the 100% KO ratio rate has been broken, and like what others said, the one who scored the bout 116-112 must be banned from judging because that's just way to disrespectful for the fighter. As for Canelo fighting Bivol again, he will still have no match for him that's for sure. Bivol just toyed with him when they fought for the first time, and there will be no difference if they will face the second time. Losing against one of the best in Light Heavyweight doesn't mean they're weaker already.

As for Beterbiev's next move, fighting Benavides might be an option, but I still believe that no one in their division can beat Beterbiev except for Bivol himself.

They will have a rematch cause it is in their contracts and Bivol said he's ready for a rematch, so it's up to Beterbiev, but considering how old Beterbiev is and how he fought, I think he'll be able to perform at the highest level for at least a year or two.
Now I wonder if Canelo will be interested in fighting Bivol or not after his loss to Beterbiev.
Whether Beterbiev is now ready to fight Benavides is also an interesting question and I think Beterbiev can beat him now.

Same. I thought Bivol did enough but it was close. I definitely wouldn't have given it to Beterbiev though. Personally, I think these sorts of fights should be given as a draw. I think they'll likely rematch but they'll probably cancel each other out again.

Wardley pretty much punched a hole in Clarke's head. Vicious punch. Looks like a broken jaw for Clarke.




Whittaker disappointed. I wonder if he did actually get injured or just took the opportunity to quit or maybe try get a disqualification given he was losing the fight? The rest of the fights all went the way I thought they would.

This fight exposes Beterbiev; he isnot really that invincible against a tough fighter like Bivol who knows how to counter and how to pace himselves and with good technical skills he had a hardtime knocking out Bivol. I am also one agreeing that the fight should have gone through Bivol's way but its better for the fight to be a draw.

The rematch will be another exciting event to watch, There will be a lot of adjustment between the two camps, I consider this a fight of the year candidate as both fighters od not have a clear advantage during the fight.

He should be happy because many think that Bivol won the fight. So many articles points out to Bivol as the clear winner of the fight, the compubox had Bivol ahead on the percentage of the punches landed, Even top boxers do not agree with the decision, Ryan Garcia thinks it s robbery.
Its just right that they have a rematch, and there's also a possibility of a trilogy, So far, the fight satisfies the boxing community but not the decision.