[Boxing] Beterbiev vs. Bivol - Undisputed Light Heavyweight Championship - page 6.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2024, 05:10:53 AM

Boxing fans, I want you to watch the greatest promo on boxing, the Bivol vs Beterbiev fight,

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It's like a movie trailer, and Kudos to HE Turki or whoever come up with this idea.

For sure it will pump us all watching the trailer and we can't wait for the actual fight. So I guess we will have to put our bet right now and not wait till like a day or two as the odds might be lower.

Thanks for sharing. They really put some effort and money into producing it. It's not in my taste, as I don't like this type of promotion, but judging by comments here and on youtube, others liked it a lot.

Here are the press conference highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUXlx5_BAZI

As expected, there was not much trash-talking from either of them, and it was rather polite, with undercard fighters doing most of the talk + the second half of the video is the official trailer.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 10:26:56 PM

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Kidding aside, I agree with you. Canelo might indeed be envious of that thriller, considering he sees himself as the face of boxing. It’s interesting that no one has ever used him as a promotional tool in the same way.

Trailers like that don’t suit Canelo because he’s just cherry-picking his opponents, and before the fight even starts, we already know he’s going to dominate. So the excitement just isn't there. Now, this fight feels more like a 50/50 matchup, although Artur Beterbiev is slightly favored, you can never be sure what Bivol might bring to the table. When he fought Canelo, he was the underdog, but he dominated, and Canelo knows that..probably why he’s not looking for a rematch.

The last time that I felt a 50/50 fight is going to happen is the first Canelo - GGG fight and the first Fury - Canelo fight I felt that this fight go either way, so much depends on who has the best preparation and good motivation headed to the fight.

Beterbiev has a long layoff, but we can't say that he is an underdog here, The guy has 100% knockout; he has his own way of training and motivating himself. What made Beterbiev the slight favorite here is because Bivol had a hard time disposing of his opponent, and his last few fights ended in unanimous decisions, the fighter with a higher knockout rate always favored in a fight and this fight reflects this belief..

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2024, 05:10:53 AM

Boxing fans, I want you to watch the greatest promo on boxing, the Bivol vs Beterbiev fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxypNPkc_SU
It's like a movie trailer, and Kudos to HE Turki or whoever come up with this idea.

For sure it will pump us all watching the trailer and we can't wait for the actual fight. So I guess we will have to put our bet right now and not wait till like a day or two as the odds might be lower.

I've never seen a trailer as epic as this, and both fighters deserve this kind of trailer ahead of their monumental fight. There's always a huge excitement and anticipation every time two undefeated boxers do not back up from any fighters, so I consider this to be the most anticipated boxing event of this year.

Thanks mate, yes, I also haven't seen as epic as a promotional trailer in what we are witnessing in the Bivol vs Beterbiev fight. For sure, majority of us as I have said, are pump up and waiting and anticipating that this is going to be a great fight and could be fight of the year candidate.

Quote from: coin-investor on September 26, 2024, 07:07:01 AM

I like this fight in the sense that there's less drama, they are not selling the fight with thrash talks and drama, because the fight sells itself; the record speaks for itself. I just hope that it will live up to the hype, and who knows, we may have a rematch or a trilogy after this fight.

Maybe it was due to language barrier, as we all know that both are Russians and English is not their first language. And so with that, they are just looking to fight and take each other's head off. And yeah, it's possible that we might see a rematch and even a trilogy if that fight is so even that it's hard to see who is the clear winner or at least the fight ended in a controversial manner.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 10:26:56 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 09:04:49 PM

Kidding aside, I agree with you. Canelo might indeed be envious of that thriller, considering he sees himself as the face of boxing. It’s interesting that no one has ever used him as a promotional tool in the same way.

Trailers like that don’t suit Canelo because he’s just cherry-picking his opponents, and before the fight even starts, we already know he’s going to dominate. So the excitement just isn't there. Now, this fight feels more like a 50/50 matchup, although Artur Beterbiev is slightly favored, you can never be sure what Bivol might bring to the table. When he fought Canelo, he was the underdog, but he dominated, and Canelo knows that..probably why he’s not looking for a rematch.

I think we haven't seen this before and so for now we might say that it won't suit him, and besides, he is cherry picking as well and so it doesn't make sense that the other party can be portrayed as also his biggest opponent.

And since we are talking about Canelo, I read that he is willing to face Bivol at Middleweight, specially if he wins here. But he doesn't talk about fighting Beterbiev is he become the unified champion. So talking about Canelo's trying to pick his fight.

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Quote from: Finestream on September 26, 2024, 10:26:56 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 09:04:49 PM

Kidding aside, I agree with you. Canelo might indeed be envious of that thriller, considering he sees himself as the face of boxing. It’s interesting that no one has ever used him as a promotional tool in the same way.

Trailers like that don’t suit Canelo because he’s just cherry-picking his opponents, and before the fight even starts, we already know he’s going to dominate. So the excitement just isn't there. Now, this fight feels more like a 50/50 matchup, although Artur Beterbiev is slightly favored, you can never be sure what Bivol might bring to the table. When he fought Canelo, he was the underdog, but he dominated, and Canelo knows that..probably why he’s not looking for a rematch.

But still, if you are the so called cash cow, you should be promoted by highly in my opinion. And we haven't seen any precedence of this kind of promotion and this is the first that we have seen. And as what others said, they set the bar high for this one.

And it's fitting as both combatants have 0 loss, so it's just about time that this fights are going to promoted like this. And then again, with the involvement of the power broker who keeps on reinventing boxing, it's no surprises that they come up with this idea. They also have this kind of trailer if I'm not mistaken with Usyk and Fury and also a AJ fight, who had a game if I'm not mistaken.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 09:04:49 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on September 26, 2024, 05:52:20 AM

^^ For sure they've thrown a lot of money just to make that promotional fight and it really paid off as it was beautifully made and that's what money can do for you. As we all know that it is backup by the powerful broker from Saudi Arabia.

And I completely agree that if fans like us here seen this promo, and we should say that this should be now the bar on how fights are going to be made, by Top Rank and Golden Boy and any other promotion for that matter.

Come to think of it, Canelo watching this when he thought that he is the cash cow, but he could be seeing this and envying at the sideline.

Canelo is also on the trailer, he was that bear that Bivol slayed hehe.

Kidding aside, I agree with you. Canelo might indeed be envious of that thriller, considering he sees himself as the face of boxing. It’s interesting that no one has ever used him as a promotional tool in the same way.

Lol, but yeah, he could be represented in the trailer and as I have said, lots of money being thrown so they should expect a good showing from both of this fighter. Maybe they think that they don't need this kind of promotions. But as we have seen, when the Saudi enter into the picture, the sports has change upside down. We have seen some great fights lately, and it will also include this fight.

And with that, they really need to capture the attention of the boxing public with having this kind of trailer. And I think this will be the standard as well, for the upcoming fights that the Saudi's are going to sponsor.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 26, 2024, 09:04:49 PM

Kidding aside, I agree with you. Canelo might indeed be envious of that thriller, considering he sees himself as the face of boxing. It’s interesting that no one has ever used him as a promotional tool in the same way.

Trailers like that don’t suit Canelo because he’s just cherry-picking his opponents, and before the fight even starts, we already know he’s going to dominate. So the excitement just isn't there. Now, this fight feels more like a 50/50 matchup, although Artur Beterbiev is slightly favored, you can never be sure what Bivol might bring to the table. When he fought Canelo, he was the underdog, but he dominated, and Canelo knows that..probably why he’s not looking for a rematch.

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 26, 2024, 05:52:20 AM

^^ For sure they've thrown a lot of money just to make that promotional fight and it really paid off as it was beautifully made and that's what money can do for you. As we all know that it is backup by the powerful broker from Saudi Arabia.

And I completely agree that if fans like us here seen this promo, and we should say that this should be now the bar on how fights are going to be made, by Top Rank and Golden Boy and any other promotion for that matter.

Come to think of it, Canelo watching this when he thought that he is the cash cow, but he could be seeing this and envying at the sideline.

Canelo is also on the trailer, he was that bear that Bivol slayed hehe.

Kidding aside, I agree with you. Canelo might indeed be envious of that thriller, considering he sees himself as the face of boxing. It’s interesting that no one has ever used him as a promotional tool in the same way.

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Quote from: TravelMug on September 26, 2024, 05:52:20 AM

^^ For sure they've thrown a lot of money just to make that promotional fight and it really paid off as it was beautifully made and that's what money can do for you. As we all know that it is backup by the powerful broker from Saudi Arabia.

And I completely agree that if fans like us here seen this promo, and we should say that this should be now the bar on how fights are going to be made, by Top Rank and Golden Boy and any other promotion for that matter.

Come to think of it, Canelo watching this when he thought that he is the cash cow, but he could be seeing this and envying at the sideline.

We only get to see few fights like this when we have so many boxing organizations with great champions because boxers are now businessmen rather than legacy fighters. Here we are seeing two legacy fighters who do not avoid each other just to give the fans what they want.

Fighters like Canelo chooses to present fight based on what will benefit him and not the community, after this fight I hope fighters will think and fight like warriors and legacy fighters.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 26, 2024, 05:10:53 AM

Boxing fans, I want you to watch the greatest promo on boxing, the Bivol vs Beterbiev fight,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxypNPkc_SU
It's like a movie trailer, and Kudos to HE Turki or whoever come up with this idea.

For sure it will pump us all watching the trailer and we can't wait for the actual fight. So I guess we will have to put our bet right now and not wait till like a day or two as the odds might be lower.

I've never seen a trailer as epic as this, and both fighters deserve this kind of trailer ahead of their monumental fight. There's always a huge excitement and anticipation every time two undefeated boxers do not back up from any fighters, so I consider this to be the most anticipated boxing event of this year.

I like this fight in the sense that there's less drama, they are not selling the fight with thrash talks and drama, because the fight sells itself; the record speaks for itself. I just hope that it will live up to the hype, and who knows, we may have a rematch or a trilogy after this fight.

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^^ For sure they've thrown a lot of money just to make that promotional fight and it really paid off as it was beautifully made and that's what money can do for you. As we all know that it is backup by the powerful broker from Saudi Arabia.

And I completely agree that if fans like us here seen this promo, and we should say that this should be now the bar on how fights are going to be made, by Top Rank and Golden Boy and any other promotion for that matter.

Come to think of it, Canelo watching this when he thought that he is the cash cow, but he could be seeing this and envying at the sideline.

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Boxing fans, I want you to watch the greatest promo on boxing, the Bivol vs Beterbiev fight,

It's like a movie trailer, and Kudos to HE Turki or whoever come up with this idea.

For sure it will pump us all watching the trailer and we can't wait for the actual fight. So I guess we will have to put our bet right now and not wait till like a day or two as the odds might be lower.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 14, 2024, 04:33:46 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 14, 2024, 12:13:58 AM

I mean even the ML already is very attractive for Bivol as he is the favorite but the odds are very much appealing. His fans here can just throw big money and then expect a payout and to not complicated their betting strategies.

However, majority of average joe could be just looking for more risk high rewards for us. And since Beterbiev is the underdog, then yes, is going to be that attractive as well. But I'm not seeing him scoring a knockdowns on Bivol. Bivol has one of the solid chin at LHW, even Canelo was not able to crack it. And he is the younger and the more active boxers between the two as Arthur is coming from a injury and that could be the first sign that his body is deteriorating, just saying.

To be fair I think throwing big money on moneyline bets is a reckless move (unless you're filthy rich and don't know what to do with your money). The reason this fight is so exciting is the fact both of them are undefeated and represent different styles of boxing, so any outcome is possible.

I disagree though, if you look at the odds, it's already big for average joe and casual boxing fans. You don't need to throw big money if the odds is like 1.7x or up in the ML. At least that's what I understand from betting on the ML. So will only throw big money when the odd is like 1.2 or even less, and that is a reckless move and not a guarantee as you still has a chance to loss, like in this case, Gambler Loses 1.4 million USD in a bet with lower than 1.01 odds!

Quote from: pawel7777 on September 14, 2024, 04:33:46 AM

Even though I expect Bivol to win, I wouldn't bet on it anything more than a pocket change. The risk-to-reward ratio is just not good enough.

But odds for Bivol winning by KO or Beterbiev by decision look good enough for a small-wager bet. And I think Beterbiev by decision is more likely, although who knows, Bivol might not be a KO artist, but all it takes is one well-timed counter punch.

Of course if you look for better odds that will be great, but I guess for some gamblers, a ML here is a good bet already. You don't need to complicate your betting strategy. You just sit and watch the fight and hope that Bivol will win either decision, knockout or stoppage.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 14, 2024, 12:13:58 AM

I mean even the ML already is very attractive for Bivol as he is the favorite but the odds are very much appealing. His fans here can just throw big money and then expect a payout and to not complicated their betting strategies.

However, majority of average joe could be just looking for more risk high rewards for us. And since Beterbiev is the underdog, then yes, is going to be that attractive as well. But I'm not seeing him scoring a knockdowns on Bivol. Bivol has one of the solid chin at LHW, even Canelo was not able to crack it. And he is the younger and the more active boxers between the two as Arthur is coming from a injury and that could be the first sign that his body is deteriorating, just saying.

To be fair I think throwing big money on moneyline bets is a reckless move (unless you're filthy rich and don't know what to do with your money). The reason this fight is so exciting is the fact both of them are undefeated and represent different styles of boxing, so any outcome is possible.

Even though I expect Bivol to win, I wouldn't bet on it anything more than a pocket change. The risk-to-reward ratio is just not good enough.

But odds for Bivol winning by KO or Beterbiev by decision look good enough for a small-wager bet. And I think Beterbiev by decision is more likely, although who knows, Bivol might not be a KO artist, but all it takes is one well-timed counter punch.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on September 13, 2024, 05:30:29 PM

Exactly one month to go to the Beterbiev Vs Bivol fight, in my opinion. This is the biggest boxing fight this year, ex aequo with the Fury Vs Usyk bout, but I'm not seeing much hype around it, or maybe I'm just not getting it in my feed.
Not much changes in terms of odds, maybe except Bivol becoming even more of a favourite.
As reflected in the odds below, there seems to be a consensus in opinion that if Betrbiev is to win, it will be by a KO, and if Bivol will get his hand raised, he'll likely to win by decision.

I could imagine Artur winning by decision, e.g. he could score a few knockdowns during the fight and get the scorecards in his favour. So betting on Beterbiev winning by decision is looking fairly attractive.
Thoughts?

I mean even the ML already is very attractive for Bivol as he is the favorite but the odds are very much appealing. His fans here can just throw big money and then expect a payout and to not complicated their betting strategies.

However, majority of average joe could be just looking for more risk high rewards for us. And since Beterbiev is the underdog, then yes, is going to be that attractive as well. But I'm not seeing him scoring a knockdowns on Bivol. Bivol has one of the solid chin at LHW, even Canelo was not able to crack it. And he is the younger and the more active boxers between the two as Arthur is coming from a injury and that could be the first sign that his body is deteriorating, just saying.

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Exactly one month to go to the Beterbiev Vs Bivol fight, in my opinion. This is the biggest boxing fight this year, ex aequo with the Fury Vs Usyk bout, but I'm not seeing much hype around it, or maybe I'm just not getting it in my feed.
Not much changes in terms of odds, maybe except Bivol becoming even more of a favourite.
As reflected in the odds below, there seems to be a consensus in opinion that if Betrbiev is to win, it will be by a KO, and if Bivol will get his hand raised, he'll likely to win by decision.

I could imagine Artur winning by decision, e.g. he could score a few knockdowns during the fight and get the scorecards in his favour. So betting on Beterbiev winning by decision is looking fairly attractive.
Thoughts?

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 11, 2024, 09:09:52 PM

Shakur will no longer be in the co-main event. He has injured his hand and has undergone surgery. Not having this fight on the undercard isn’t a huge loss since it was a mismatch that nobody wants to pay to watch. He was supposed to fight William Zepeda after this fight and now that fight is in doubt. Shakur has killed the momentum in his career with boring performances and this is another setback.

It's too bad to hear that Shakur will be sideline for the rest of the year. I read that he was working with Crawford in the mitts or something and so maybe he really push himself in the training and trying to impress his mentor that he has power.

Maybe if his knuckle will heal in time, then next year he could be fighting William Zepeda.

I do agree that it somewhat stop him in his tracks and go back to 0 again. Because he will have to train and reset everything, not a sports medicine expert, but a brittle hand will at some time is going to be injured as you are going to used your hands again and again obviously in this sports unless you will to inject a substance in it like Floyd does.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 11, 2024, 09:09:52 PM

Shakur will no longer be in the co-main event. He has injured his hand and has undergone surgery. Not having this fight on the undercard isn’t a huge loss since it was a mismatch that nobody wants to pay to watch. He was supposed to fight William Zepeda after this fight and now that fight is in doubt. Shakur has killed the momentum in his career with boring performances and this is another setback.

Yes, and this is what Matchroom Eddie Hearn has to say,

https://x.com/MatchroomBoxing/status/1833990974290493498

It's very unfortunate that he had injured his hand and then go for a immediate surgery perhaps they have decided it that it should be done the earlier the better it will heal. So he might be back early 2025 and who knows who is going to be his next opponent.

I don't think it killed his momentum though, he is still very young and there could be more fights for him if he settles his injury today.

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Shakur will no longer be in the co-main event. He has injured his hand and has undergone surgery. Not having this fight on the undercard isn’t a huge loss since it was a mismatch that nobody wants to pay to watch. He was supposed to fight William Zepeda after this fight and now that fight is in doubt. Shakur has killed the momentum in his career with boring performances and this is another setback.

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^^ In order for Haney to win by a knockout, they should cherry pick a fighter that has a weak chin. However, it could backfire on them as obviously fans are going to call out Haney for that fight.

Ryan Garcia could be just chilling right now and probably plotting his next move after the ban on him is lifted next year.

And against Cordina, Shakur is a big favorite to win the fight. Cordina is 8:1 betting underdog.

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