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October 08, 2021, 10:17:47 AM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention. Other boxers are doing the same thing and it's something that we have to ignore. Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years. I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.

I agree with you, I do not know, sometimes I think that the amount of money that Caleb can receive could make all expectations arise in him and that he can offer in front of the public, something that I have noticed in boxing is that he is moving an amount of impressive money, honestly the established business model is very lucrative, if Caleb takes a beating, but they guarantee him enough to guarantee his life, why not do it?

From a sporting point of view, without belittling Caleb, I think that Canelo is on another level, I do not see Caleb as a suitable rival, it is for this reason that the predictions are focused on Canelo, although it is not known, a possible good luck if Caleb prepares better, anything could happen.
Off-Topic Note: In my case, if they mess with my mother, I think I would react much more violent than Canelo, and this is just that it will give the spice to wait for a Knockout.
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October 08, 2021, 06:59:24 AM

We will know that inside the ring, of all of the recent opponents of Canelo, it seems that Caleb is the most loud about it as far as trash talking is concern. Very vocal in attacking Canelo in public and even in their face off. But it's different when they are inside, either he can really has the power to knock out Canelo (which majority of us doubt), or he will just be an ordinary fighter there because Canelo's talent is too much for him.

He should not change, he should keep attacking Canelo for us to see an entertaining fight. Majority of the fans are on the side of Canelo, but if he can upset Canelo here, he will accelerate into stardom and he will get big fights and money going forward. I believe all boxers do not only aim for honor, they aim for money more, so Caleb should train hard to beat Canelo.
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October 08, 2021, 05:59:36 AM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention. Other boxers are doing the same thing and it's something that we have to ignore. Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years. I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.

We will know that inside the ring, of all of the recent opponents of Canelo, it seems that Caleb is the most loud about it as far as trash talking is concern. Very vocal in attacking Canelo in public and even in their face off. But it's different when they are inside, either he can really has the power to knock out Canelo (which majority of us doubt), or he will just be an ordinary fighter there because Canelo's talent is too much for him.
legendary
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October 08, 2021, 04:28:05 AM
I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention.
Maybe, but it's not good, because they are watched by millions of people in that humiliation, it's boxing, not a good impression for insults, anyone can get emotional if the words Caleb says to Canelo, it looks like there is a personal grudge between them, maybe, who knows.

Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years.
yes, it can be seen from the career that has been achieved by Canelo so far.

I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.
Not sure, but if Canelo faced him in the ring it could emotionally turn around, but conversely if Canelo faced Caleb professionally, the winning points could go to Canelo, which is sure to please this boxing.

I often see boxing, opponents who are emotional, arrogant in rounds 1-3 fall.
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October 07, 2021, 12:43:19 PM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

I guess that's just Caleb's strategy to gain more attention. Other boxers are doing the same thing and it's something that we have to ignore. Canelo has an edge here since he has more supporters because of his good record through the years. I just hope that Caleb could also prove everything that he's boasting about.
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October 07, 2021, 09:29:22 AM
That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I agree, it won't work because Canelo has been in the game for so long. But still effective tactics to others. And as you have said, it's not going to work because Caleb can't back up his s**t. Canelo still the A-side in this fight.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.

He can still brawl though if he remains very light. But it could affect on how he takes up a punch. He can either go heavy or light. Heavy as in the Fury strategy, he has more sting in his punches against Wilder in the second fight. But being light would be more beneficial for him in the long run, in my opinion.
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October 07, 2021, 03:51:33 AM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

Just check the ticket sales and it looks like there are still some available. Maybe because we still have a month to go, but for sure the press con scuffle really put more hype on the fight, and then every Canelo training video, he always tells us how Caleb is going to pay for disrespecting his mother.

So we don't know if this is scripted or not, because if yes, then Caleb get a mark on his fight. Hopefully  even if the tickets are not sold out, we will see great fight between the two.

I am a bit curious, how are we going to check the ticket sales? Is there a website where we can monitor the total number of tickets sold already and tickets still available? I know this is a hyped fight as what both have done during the press conference creates noise in the boxing world.
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October 06, 2021, 11:40:15 PM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.

Just check the ticket sales and it looks like there are still some available. Maybe because we still have a month to go, but for sure the press con scuffle really put more hype on the fight, and then every Canelo training video, he always tells us how Caleb is going to pay for disrespecting his mother.

So we don't know if this is scripted or not, because if yes, then Caleb get a mark on his fight. Hopefully  even if the tickets are not sold out, we will see great fight between the two.
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October 06, 2021, 11:25:22 PM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.

Who knows what happened out there for sure? All of this may be scripted, just to get some cheap attention. Perhaps the organizers wanted to fire up the supporters of Canelo, since the ticket sales and PPV buys were low. And it will not be too surprising if the sale figures are low. The maximum interest will be there only if both the sides are of equal strength. Naturally the interest won't be there if one side is expected to dominate the match. That's why there was massive interest in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo fought against Golovkin.
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October 06, 2021, 11:09:05 AM
That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.

Caleb for me should take every opportunities to go toe to toe,

with that trash talk that  it's more likely that fans expect him not be lite from this fight.

He should focus more trying his best countering whatever Alvarez will use against him, this incoming fight will be mostly anticipated,

Alvarez always have the fans, Plant is the underdog here it shows around including  bookies.
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October 06, 2021, 09:05:59 AM
Anyone will be angry if someone insults him, what else is insulted is: his biological 'mother', well, well, look at this one: Don't talk about my mum! Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez explains how Caleb Plant's family slur led to their on-stage punch-up... warning the American 'you don't want to fight me now'

I think the boxing this time is between Canelo vs. Caleb will be fatal, I think this is no longer boxing to win the championship, but a burning revenge boxing.

The schedule has been set, the tickets have been distributed, inevitably boxing must be carried out, I think this is a big problem between Canelo vs. Caleb, I myself don't like to see Caleb's attitude that has a gay mouth, unprofessional.
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October 06, 2021, 08:04:49 AM
That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.

It could work though, same strategy of GGG in the first fight, he really took off early and try to stay in the pocket and hit Canelo with good shots and then move out of arm's way. That's why the fight is very close as GGG was controlling early and Canelo chooses to play defense plus he is a slow starter.

So Caleb needs to play the same, score points early, avoid those bombs and then wait for Canelo to do the catch up, then try to use his boxing skills like in the Canelo vs Lara fight. Go light and use a lot of movement to frustrate Alvarez.

I guess Caleb is not that good to beat Canelo in the early rounds, that strategy could be useful for some elite fighters but for Caleb, I doubt that. He won't be able to do that against the almost unbeatable boxer now which is currently the number 1 in the pound for pound raking per the ring maganize. https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/
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October 06, 2021, 07:51:32 AM
That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.

It could work though, same strategy of GGG in the first fight, he really took off early and try to stay in the pocket and hit Canelo with good shots and then move out of arm's way. That's why the fight is very close as GGG was controlling early and Canelo chooses to play defense plus he is a slow starter.

So Caleb needs to play the same, score points early, avoid those bombs and then wait for Canelo to do the catch up, then try to use his boxing skills like in the Canelo vs Lara fight. Go light and use a lot of movement to frustrate Alvarez.
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October 06, 2021, 07:46:04 AM
There is good news for both of them Canelo vs Caleb, they are both ready to fight boxing in the ring next November 6th, I can't wait to see them both, negotiations are over, their final is ready.

Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant undisputed super middleweight title fight set for Nov. 6
Its already set and now we're just going to wait for their fight. Hopefully everything will go as planned and no problem can occur that might cause the fight to have changes like what happened to Pacquiao vs Spence, since the latter has withdrawn due to eye damage. Anyway many fans are waiting for this fight and became a trend due to their face off commotion. Now its their chance to prove themselves and show who's the real stronger.
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October 06, 2021, 07:41:57 AM
That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.

Team Caleb already knew that Canelo doesn't have a weakness so that might be the reason why Caleb Plant resorted to trash-talking so he could provoke Canelo and make him out of focus on fight night but i think that's not gonna work as Canelo has been through this kind of a situation a lot and he already knew what to do.

I think it would be good if Caleb won't go light on this fight and try his luck brawling with Canelo, who knows if he can land few solid blows that could turn the fight in his favor.
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October 06, 2021, 07:28:52 AM
^^ I would love to see a toe to toe battle as well in the early rounds. And maybe Caleb can take advantage of Canelo being a slow starting and could earn some points in the judges eye. Billy Joe did this strategy, but he seems to run out of gas and that's why Canelo was able to take over, forcing Billie Joe to quit. So Caleb will need to start hot and able to sustain it and be ready if Canelo's started to get his rhythm going around round 4. And then switch to being a boxer, uses his jab more. It's going to be a chess match if Caleb wanted to pull an upset.
It depends on the mindset, the first two rounds will set up the tempo of the fight and the direction where it will go, I always believe in what Mike Tyson said, Everybody has a plan until they get hit if Plant can take and see Canelo's punch he had a chance if he can hit and past enough to not get hit, then he'll have a good chance, whatever Plan, Caleb has can be implemented on how Canelo reacts in the first two rounds.

Caleb has to take the advantage of Canelo being a slow starter, otherwise, that will come to bite him back. He needs to finish the match as early as he can, otherwise, if the match is lengthened, I'm afraid Canelo will get the better of Caleb and win the match as I think that Canelo gets better as the rounds progress. Although I'm hoping for a 50-50 matchup. Both the players are very capable, maybe strategies will make the difference between them.

That's why Caleb needs to be have a good plan and work with his coach on how they are going to upset Canelo because it seems that he doesn't have a weakness. So the best way is to test him out early in the first 2 rounds and see how Canelo will react. Not sure if Caleb will show as the heavier during that fight, or the lighter one so that he can move and be the fastest one on his feet so avoid Canelo's power punches. But it will be boring though if he keeps on running and playing defense.
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October 06, 2021, 07:20:37 AM
There is good news for both of them Canelo vs Caleb, they are both ready to fight boxing in the ring next November 6th, I can't wait to see them both, negotiations are over, their final is ready.

Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant undisputed super middleweight title fight set for Nov. 6

I'm not as confident as you with going for an under here, Plant might be making sure that he himself won't be knocked himself so I won't risk doing that, I'll just bet on Canelo normally.
yes, same thought, I agree to bet my right hand holds Canelo, honestly I don't like Caleb's style too cocky, usually boxers like that don't last long.

It's really a fight worth waiting for, in my opinion the fight will be full of revenge and also emotions so that the fight will run full of blood, canelo has a great opportunity to silence caleb in the ring for the insults that caleb has done in the face off session, and I think both boxers have their respective advantages but in terms of experience it is clear that I think Canelo is superior and I personally bet on that fight for Canelo's victory.
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October 06, 2021, 02:31:08 AM
Hopefully, no last minute cancellation here because a lot are expecting to see this fight inside the ring. Being Canelo as the heavy favorite, this will be a good challenge for Caleb. Can he pull an upset just like Usyk? Seems not likely. But the fight will speak for itself. So let's see...

After so much bad blood between the boxers, I don't think that there is a possibility of last minute cancellation. And I have seen posts comparing Canelo to Anthony Joshua earlier as well, in this thread. You can compare Caleb with Usyk (still I would say that Usyk is a more classy athlete), but I don't think that it is logical to compare an all time great like Canelo with a overhyped motormouth like AJ. Given the recent thrash talk from the part of Caleb, actually it will suit more if you compare Caleb with AJ.

Let us not discuss cancellation because it's so frustrating to know that the fight we have been waiting for will just be cancelled, some fights this year has been cancelled already, hopefully, it's not a trend this year. Because of the recent cancellation of events this year, bookies are now not giving advance betting odds I guess, the Pacquiao vs Spence was cancelled but good thing Pacquiao is willing to fight the substitute, hopefully, other boxers will do.
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October 05, 2021, 11:46:33 PM
Hopefully, no last minute cancellation here because a lot are expecting to see this fight inside the ring. Being Canelo as the heavy favorite, this will be a good challenge for Caleb. Can he pull an upset just like Usyk? Seems not likely. But the fight will speak for itself. So let's see...

After so much bad blood between the boxers, I don't think that there is a possibility of last minute cancellation. And I have seen posts comparing Canelo to Anthony Joshua earlier as well, in this thread. You can compare Caleb with Usyk (still I would say that Usyk is a more classy athlete), but I don't think that it is logical to compare an all time great like Canelo with a overhyped motormouth like AJ. Given the recent thrash talk from the part of Caleb, actually it will suit more if you compare Caleb with AJ.
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October 05, 2021, 07:54:09 PM
There is good news for both of them Canelo vs Caleb, they are both ready to fight boxing in the ring next November 6th, I can't wait to see them both, negotiations are over, their final is ready.

Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant undisputed super middleweight title fight set for Nov. 6

I'm not as confident as you with going for an under here, Plant might be making sure that he himself won't be knocked himself so I won't risk doing that, I'll just bet on Canelo normally.
yes, same thought, I agree to bet my right hand holds Canelo, honestly I don't like Caleb's style too cocky, usually boxers like that don't last long.

Hopefully, no last minute cancellation here because a lot are expecting to see this fight inside the ring. Being Canelo as the heavy favorite, this will be a good challenge for Caleb. Can he pull an upset just like Usyk? Seems not likely. But the fight will speak for itself. So let's see...
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