I'm not as confident as you with going for an under here, Plant might be making sure that he himself won't be knocked himself so I won't risk doing that, I'll just bet on Canelo normally.
yes, same thought, I agree to bet my right hand holds Canelo, honestly I don't like Caleb's style too cocky, usually boxers like that don't last long.
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If Caleb though is really that durable and tough, this might go to distance.
If not the fight could end in < 10 rounds, with Canelo winning either by KO/TKO. So still this fight is hard to predict, although Canelo is the favorite, we are looking for the rounds wherein he can win. And even though Caleb hasn't lost before and seems to be one of the best fighters that Canelo will face in his last 3 fights. he might last a decent rounds before Canelo can finished him.
If not the fight could end in < 10 rounds, with Canelo winning either by KO/TKO. So still this fight is hard to predict, although Canelo is the favorite, we are looking for the rounds wherein he can win. And even though Caleb hasn't lost before and seems to be one of the best fighters that Canelo will face in his last 3 fights. he might last a decent rounds before Canelo can finished him.
What do you think about the rounds though? I'm thinking around 6 and up the fight would go on Canelo's way. Going to distance? Now I'm having my doubts as it looks like Canelo is going for the kill here because of Caleb's trash talking. There are training videos of Canelo is YT and he always tells us that this is personal for him.
The trash talk and the scuffle that followed looked scripted for me, so I don't want to read too much into it. And IMO, there is a 50% chance of a KO. But even if the fight ends in a KO, I expect it after the 8th round. 6th is a bit early for me. I know that Canelo is like invincible in his weight class. But Caleb has an unbeaten record till now and he is no easy walkover. I am not saying that he's going to beat Canelo. But he has the capability to last for the full 12 rounds and even if the fight ends in a KO it will come late during the fight.
Maybe in the rounds of 6-8 might be a good bet. But if you really wanted to have a very attractive odds, you might go with round 8 for a KO win by Canelo. Yes, Caleb is no pushover, no lost in his career. But that's what BJS and Callum Smith was before facing Canelo. They have no lost as well and people says that they have a chance to win, but Canelo took that 0 from both fighters.
Indeed! Canelo break those records and give both fighters their first losses, probably a big chance that will also happen with Plant.
He might be another champion without any loses but facing Alvarez might give him one, I don't know how this one would end up as it also being said that Plant can last long and maybe he can pushed this fight to decision and not a KO.
If you wanted to gamble and you have a strong belief with Alvarez, taking that bet for 8 round KO will give you decent, unlike with straight ML in which you can only win 1.08 odd.
There is good news for both of them Canelo vs Caleb, they are both ready to fight boxing in the ring next November 6th, I can't wait to see them both, negotiations are over, their final is ready.
Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant undisputed super middleweight title fight set for Nov. 6
Canelo Alvarez-Caleb Plant undisputed super middleweight title fight set for Nov. 6
I'm not as confident as you with going for an under here, Plant might be making sure that he himself won't be knocked himself so I won't risk doing that, I'll just bet on Canelo normally.
yes, same thought, I agree to bet my right hand holds Canelo, honestly I don't like Caleb's style too cocky, usually boxers like that don't last long. 
I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
I'm not as confident as you with going for an under here, Plant might be making sure that he himself won't be knocked himself so I won't risk doing that, I'll just bet on Canelo normally. 
What do you think about the rounds though? I'm thinking around 6 and up the fight would go on Canelo's way. Going to distance? Now I'm having my doubts as it looks like Canelo is going for the kill here because of Caleb's trash talking. There are training videos of Canelo is YT and he always tells us that this is personal for him.
The trash talk and the scuffle that followed looked scripted for me, so I don't want to read too much into it. And IMO, there is a 50% chance of a KO. But even if the fight ends in a KO, I expect it after the 8th round. 6th is a bit early for me. I know that Canelo is like invincible in his weight class. But Caleb has an unbeaten record till now and he is no easy walkover. I am not saying that he's going to beat Canelo. But he has the capability to last for the full 12 rounds and even if the fight ends in a KO it will come late during the fight.
Maybe in the rounds of 6-8 might be a good bet. But if you really wanted to have a very attractive odds, you might go with round 8 for a KO win by Canelo. Yes, Caleb is no pushover, no lost in his career. But that's what BJS and Callum Smith was before facing Canelo. They have no lost as well and people says that they have a chance to win, but Canelo took that 0 from both fighters.
I'm just curious, what's with the round 8?
Is there an odds already available for Canelo winning in round 8?
What do you think about the rounds though? I'm thinking around 6 and up the fight would go on Canelo's way. Going to distance? Now I'm having my doubts as it looks like Canelo is going for the kill here because of Caleb's trash talking. There are training videos of Canelo is YT and he always tells us that this is personal for him.
The trash talk and the scuffle that followed looked scripted for me, so I don't want to read too much into it. And IMO, there is a 50% chance of a KO. But even if the fight ends in a KO, I expect it after the 8th round. 6th is a bit early for me. I know that Canelo is like invincible in his weight class. But Caleb has an unbeaten record till now and he is no easy walkover. I am not saying that he's going to beat Canelo. But he has the capability to last for the full 12 rounds and even if the fight ends in a KO it will come late during the fight.
Maybe in the rounds of 6-8 might be a good bet. But if you really wanted to have a very attractive odds, you might go with round 8 for a KO win by Canelo. Yes, Caleb is no pushover, no lost in his career. But that's what BJS and Callum Smith was before facing Canelo. They have no lost as well and people says that they have a chance to win, but Canelo took that 0 from both fighters.
Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.
Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.
Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there.
Please explain how can 1.08 be risky ? You think that Caleb Plant can surprise boxing industry November 6 ? If Canelo persuasively beat top2 and top3 boxer in worlds ranking, how can a top7 be more dangerous. Btw, during press conference, Plant came to Canelo and pushed him. Canelo responded with a punch and left a cut on Plants face. Canelo has already won before their fight
About the small odds. Instead of wasting my limited budget to win with a 1.08 odd, I would better make a bet on a different event and get more. That what I was trying to say.
Where're your guts now? You are saying that Canelo is a sure win here. Then bet your money with that 1.08 odds. We are the same, I don't see Caleb Plant winning but still, betting on 1.08 on a high amount is risky for me.
Disregard your last statement if you are true to yourself that you believe Canelo will win. It's easy to make a statement that it's a sure win for Canelo but without betting and supporting your stand that 1.08 is not risky, then it's just a simple post.
I will wait for you to bet a good amount on Canelo to prove that you are really supporting your stand. Share your betting slip here. Don't bet $50, $100, you won't feel the profit.
What is "a good amount" for you? I can not allow myself to make a $100 bet. To prove that that I support my stand, I can make any bet. Doing a bet will already be a proof. All crypto casinos are banned in my country. I can bet only on webpages, that has licenses from government. I don't want to use VPN. If I make a bet, make a screenshot and send it in PM, will it suit you? I don't want to post in public, because by casinos UI, my location can be identified easily.
I see where you are moving our conversation. You have moved it from "risk" to "profit".
What do you think about the rounds though? I'm thinking around 6 and up the fight would go on Canelo's way. Going to distance? Now I'm having my doubts as it looks like Canelo is going for the kill here because of Caleb's trash talking. There are training videos of Canelo is YT and he always tells us that this is personal for him.
The trash talk and the scuffle that followed looked scripted for me, so I don't want to read too much into it. And IMO, there is a 50% chance of a KO. But even if the fight ends in a KO, I expect it after the 8th round. 6th is a bit early for me. I know that Canelo is like invincible in his weight class. But Caleb has an unbeaten record till now and he is no easy walkover. I am not saying that he's going to beat Canelo. But he has the capability to last for the full 12 rounds and even if the fight ends in a KO it will come late during the fight.
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I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
To be frank i am yet to watch a Caleb Plant fight live even though i have seen some of his past fights when this fight was announced against Canelo Alvarez and i cannot find anything that could create a problem for the great Canelo. I am also looking to place a bet on rounds rather than going for the money line.I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
What do you think about the rounds though? I'm thinking around 6 and up the fight would go on Canelo's way. Going to distance? Now I'm having my doubts as it looks like Canelo is going for the kill here because of Caleb's trash talking. There are training videos of Canelo is YT and he always tells us that this is personal for him.
The press conference antics was there to promote the fight and it looks like it paid off as everyone i taking about the fight.
Not sure if this is set up or what, but from what I've seen yeah, more hype have been created after that press conference scuffle.
The line for Canelo to win is -900, you can get an idea from that already, but could only be confirm once odds are available.
Most of the sites are having odds of 1.08 for Canelo (or even lower). That translates to -1250, right? If you are able to find a sportsbook with odds of -900, then it sounds attractive. Anything up to -1,000 is OK for me. For some of his earlier fights, Canelo's odds were even higher (-3500 to -4000 range). The bookies believe that this time Caleb is having a chance.. although really small. But still one month to go for the fight, and the odds can change as the gamblers favor one boxer over the other. The sportsbooks need to adjust their odds to reduce their risk.
I think the fight they previously had ( not in the ring) makes people to decide more than Plant has no chance of winning. Look at the odds, at 1.08, I think it's almost impossible for Caleb to make an upset here, and Canelo will be waiting and eager to punish him because of his trash talk that is below the belt.
1.08 is still good IMO. In some of the previous fights, Canelo's odds were 1.025 - 1.030. It makes no sense to bet with such odds, but a lot of gamblers would disagree with me and say that it is just assured winning. At the time when the fight was first announced, I made the decision not to make a bet on this match. I knew that the odds would be insanely low. Even if it is an assured win, if the bet remain this low then I am not going to take it. And BTW, although we call it as an "assured win", there is no 100% guarantee. Upsets happen in the boxing ring every now and then.
Not worthy to risk your money as also my opinion. Though maybe it's an assured fight but upset and shit can happen, we don't know how ready Plant is and what preparation he's taking right now to increase his chance of winning this fight, though for most, Alvarez really have the higher edge and bookies recognize that.
All depends now on how bettors will take their sides. If you are okay with small odd, then take Alvarez. maybe decent amount may give you entertaining profits.
Good luck and enjoy watching the fight!
That's true, it all depends on the bettors if they are willing to take that 1.08 and think that it's easy money. Upset could happen in boxer, that's proven in the past, so it's not impossible to see an upset in this fight, and bettors who take that 1.08 should be ready if they lose as no boxer is unbeatable.
I'm sure that those who will take this odd are really willing or an avid fan of Alvarez, they trust him a lot and if they will risk hugea mount they are willing to take that big risk knowing the high advantage of their favorite fighter.
In terms of upset we all witness that it really happened not just inside boxing but with very sports that we;ve known.
Let those who are willing to work on it and see the outcome! Good Luck!
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I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
To be frank i am yet to watch a Caleb Plant fight live even though i have seen some of his past fights when this fight was announced against Canelo Alvarez and i cannot find anything that could create a problem for the great Canelo. I am also looking to place a bet on rounds rather than going for the money line.I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
The press conference antics was there to promote the fight and it looks like it paid off as everyone i taking about the fight.
Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.
Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.
Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there.
Please explain how can 1.08 be risky ? You think that Caleb Plant can surprise boxing industry November 6 ? If Canelo persuasively beat top2 and top3 boxer in worlds ranking, how can a top7 be more dangerous. Btw, during press conference, Plant came to Canelo and pushed him. Canelo responded with a punch and left a cut on Plants face. Canelo has already won before their fight
About the small odds. Instead of wasting my limited budget to win with a 1.08 odd, I would better make a bet on a different event and get more. That what I was trying to say.
Where're your guts now? You are saying that Canelo is a sure win here. Then bet your money with that 1.08 odds. We are the same, I don't see Caleb Plant winning but still, betting on 1.08 on a high amount is risky for me.
Disregard your last statement if you are true to yourself that you believe Canelo will win. It's easy to make a statement that it's a sure win for Canelo but without betting and supporting your stand that 1.08 is not risky, then it's just a simple post.
I will wait for you to bet a good amount on Canelo to prove that you are really supporting your stand. Share your betting slip here. Don't bet $50, $100, you won't feel the profit.
the over/under betting line is more attractive to place bet if you don't want to bet on full time for canelo, as it will only give you small profit if he wins. a lil more than a month from now, we will see a very interesting fight. by the way, it seems their tickets are not yet sold out so we will see if they can get good number of actual audience here. at least, we are seeing live matches now with live audience.
I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
Just be patient, the betting line is not even available now, so you will not see the over/under odd of this fight yet. Normally, they will first reveal the Moneyline odds for the fight and then a week or few days before the fight, the full market will be displayed, that's why be patient.
as per report in https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-plant-odds
The line for Canelo to win is -900, you can get an idea from that already, but could only be confirm once odds are available.
the over/under betting line is more attractive to place bet if you don't want to bet on full time for canelo, as it will only give you small profit if he wins. a lil more than a month from now, we will see a very interesting fight. by the way, it seems their tickets are not yet sold out so we will see if they can get good number of actual audience here. at least, we are seeing live matches now with live audience.
I like to see the over/under line, I'll probably bet on the under here as I expect a KO win by Canelo, and with what happened during the press conference, I think Canelo has the motivation to KO Caleb Plant and the fight will end before 6 rounds.
^^ I would love to see a toe to toe battle as well in the early rounds. And maybe Caleb can take advantage of Canelo being a slow starting and could earn some points in the judges eye. Billy Joe did this strategy, but he seems to run out of gas and that's why Canelo was able to take over, forcing Billie Joe to quit. So Caleb will need to start hot and able to sustain it and be ready if Canelo's started to get his rhythm going around round 4. And then switch to being a boxer, uses his jab more. It's going to be a chess match if Caleb wanted to pull an upset.
It depends on the mindset, the first two rounds will set up the tempo of the fight and the direction where it will go, I always believe in what Mike Tyson said, Everybody has a plan until they get hit if Plant can take and see Canelo's punch he had a chance if he can hit and past enough to not get hit, then he'll have a good chance, whatever Plan, Caleb has can be implemented on how Canelo reacts in the first two rounds.Caleb has to take the advantage of Canelo being a slow starter, otherwise, that will come to bite him back. He needs to finish the match as early as he can, otherwise, if the match is lengthened, I'm afraid Canelo will get the better of Caleb and win the match as I think that Canelo gets better as the rounds progress. Although I'm hoping for a 50-50 matchup. Both the players are very capable, maybe strategies will make the difference between them.
the over/under betting line is more attractive to place bet if you don't want to bet on full time for canelo, as it will only give you small profit if he wins. a lil more than a month from now, we will see a very interesting fight. by the way, it seems their tickets are not yet sold out so we will see if they can get good number of actual audience here. at least, we are seeing live matches now with live audience.
^^ I would love to see a toe to toe battle as well in the early rounds. And maybe Caleb can take advantage of Canelo being a slow starting and could earn some points in the judges eye. Billy Joe did this strategy, but he seems to run out of gas and that's why Canelo was able to take over, forcing Billie Joe to quit. So Caleb will need to start hot and able to sustain it and be ready if Canelo's started to get his rhythm going around round 4. And then switch to being a boxer, uses his jab more. It's going to be a chess match if Caleb wanted to pull an upset.
It depends on the mindset, the first two rounds will set up the tempo of the fight and the direction where it will go, I always believe in what Mike Tyson said, Everybody has a plan until they get hit if Plant can take and see Canelo's punch he had a chance if he can hit and past enough to not get hit, then he'll have a good chance, whatever Plan, Caleb has can be implemented on how Canelo reacts in the first two rounds.Caleb has to take the advantage of Canelo being a slow starter, otherwise, that will come to bite him back. He needs to finish the match as early as he can, otherwise, if the match is lengthened, I'm afraid Canelo will get the better of Caleb and win the match as I think that Canelo gets better as the rounds progress. Although I'm hoping for a 50-50 matchup. Both the players are very capable, maybe strategies will make the difference between them.
^^ I would love to see a toe to toe battle as well in the early rounds. And maybe Caleb can take advantage of Canelo being a slow starting and could earn some points in the judges eye. Billy Joe did this strategy, but he seems to run out of gas and that's why Canelo was able to take over, forcing Billie Joe to quit. So Caleb will need to start hot and able to sustain it and be ready if Canelo's started to get his rhythm going around round 4. And then switch to being a boxer, uses his jab more. It's going to be a chess match if Caleb wanted to pull an upset.
It depends on the mindset, the first two rounds will set up the tempo of the fight and the direction where it will go, I always believe in what Mike Tyson said, Everybody has a plan until they get hit if Plant can take and see Canelo's punch he had a chance if he can hit and past enough to not get hit, then he'll have a good chance, whatever Plan, Caleb has can be implemented on how Canelo reacts in the first two rounds.Caleb has to take the advantage of Canelo being a slow starter, otherwise, that will come to bite him back. He needs to finish the match as early as he can, otherwise, if the match is lengthened, I'm afraid Canelo will get the better of Caleb and win the match as I think that Canelo gets better as the rounds progress. Although I'm hoping for a 50-50 matchup. Both the players are very capable, maybe strategies will make the difference between them.
Skils and and mental advantages are both with Alvarez, no doubts that's how bookies see this event.
Obviously, as it reflected on the odds easily, Caleb could be undefeated but taking on Alverez is a nightmare, either he will get KO here or he will suffer from serious injury, just like what happened to the opponent of Canelo in his last fight.
No one would think now that Canelo would lose, if we just look at the previous fights of Canelo, we will be convinced that he is unbeatable. Anyways, for those who would insist, I would like to know what are the reasons why you think Caleb Plant could pull an upset here? willing to listen.
I do think that Canelo will win as well. I also can't see how Caleb Plant will upset Canelo, of course, if he caught Canelo with a good power punch then maybe he can score a knock out, but that chance are very slim. We've seen GGG hit him hard, but Canelo just shake it off and we didn't see him buckle a bit because Canelo has a granite chin as well. So it's really difficult for Caleb, unless really a one hail mary shot that will put Canelo in the canvass and can't beat the 10 count.
Well, maybe that could possibly happen as Canelo has the power to KO an opponent, or the ref could stop the fight if he sees that his opponent is taking too much damage. However, Plant should also not be underestimated because he has not experienced a defeat yet and we don't know what he can do here, maybe we will be surprise and our expectation will not happen.
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