[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 18.

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That was just my speculation because we all know that boxers want to hype their fight to make more money. Just like what happened with the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight, I guess that one though looks real but it could also be an acting job too. But anyway, just don't mind it, we will see the fight soon, so we will see how Canelo would punish Caleb Plant in the ring.

It was different on Mayweather vs Paul because their fight has no bearing and really needed hype. Mayweather's reputation is not that good too even he is an undefeated boxer so they really need to do something to catch and attract the interest of the audiences and viewers.

It's hard for me to believe even just for speculation that the incident that happened at the Alvarez-Plant press conference is an acting job.

Regardless, I hope Caleb Plant is not just pure of talks. For Canelo, I hope that trash talk won't distract him. It's normal to get in emotion but it can affect a boxer's performance on the ring especially if heated one.

I really think that Caleb is doing everything that he can to try to get Canelo out of his game but this is a dangerous game, I have seen many of the professional fights of Canelo and one thing I have noticed is that even if he was an incredibly punching power he does not want to injure his opponent, if it seems the opponent is about to go down he gives them a chance to go down before receiving more punishment, if Caleb is doing all of this and does not have the skill to back it up, I think Canelo may try not only to beat him but to hurt him.

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Anger makes every man dangerous you have to prepare yourself and win the battle to win the battle canello is a strong fighter and he manages everything perfectly after fighting just once last year sol canello alvarez is back in the ring for a second fight in the second month, the biggest appeal in boxing to defend the super middleweight title against. Also the first fight of the mexican legend now exceeds any canelo and boxing activity anywhere in the world with high aspirations.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on September 28, 2021, 11:16:08 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 28, 2021, 05:14:58 PM

Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year. He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.

That's a dangerous emotion to have, it can help you fuel your desire to win the fight or it can cloud your judgement that you're not able to think straight since you're so full of rage that you're only strategy is to use as much force that equals your rage. Canelo is a good fighter though, hopefully we get to see him deliver a good show.

Yeah, no need to be angry or what, just focus on your goal to win the fight against one of the best we have right now in Canelo. Caleb needs to concentrate and developed a perfect plan on how to defeat Canelo otherwise he will be the next victim and going to be knock out. Although Caleb has a good chin, he was never touch in his previous fight with a power of Canelo. Not sure what the odds are for a Canelo knock out, but if it good and attractive, I might go with it.

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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin

. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier. Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

It's just a scratch on his face, superficial wound, no nothing serious and the fight will continue as per schedule. But I do agree that this is a high profile fight and there should be security around to separate them when they have their face-off. For sure, they don't want this to happen during the weigh in and I reckon that they are not going to be close physical contact when they hit the scale in public.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on September 28, 2021, 11:16:08 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 28, 2021, 05:14:58 PM

Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year. He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.

That's a dangerous emotion to have, it can help you fuel your desire to win the fight or it can cloud your judgement that you're not able to think straight since you're so full of rage that you're only strategy is to use as much force that equals your rage. Canelo is a good fighter though, hopefully we get to see him deliver a good show.

He definitely will. That's Canelo Alvarez. He's a very talented fighter. This is his fight. Caleb is here to prove something. He better be good. He cannot be just less than a good fighter if he is facing Canelo. In fact he has to step up and be a better boxer when the time comes. I'm afraid Caleb's best wasn't good enough for the monster in Canelo. He has to improve or else the odds will be final and it favors Canelo. He has to forget about the altercation that happened in the promotion. Anger blinds a fighter. Boxing is technical. You cannot just box your way out of anger and win.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on September 28, 2021, 05:14:58 PM

Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year. He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.

That's a dangerous emotion to have, it can help you fuel your desire to win the fight or it can cloud your judgement that you're not able to think straight since you're so full of rage that you're only strategy is to use as much force that equals your rage. Canelo is a good fighter though, hopefully we get to see him deliver a good show.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 28, 2021, 12:36:01 PM

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier. Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

You never know who started the fight. Canelo claims that Caleb used bad words about his mother. But for me, all this sounds scripted. They just want to attract more publicity to the event. Who knows? Maybe the ticket sales are not looking good as a result of the pandemic? Reminds me of all the drama we had before the actual fight between Khabib Nurmagomedov and Conor McGregor (UFC). If anyone think that it was scripted, then this one is also scripted for sure. The organizers only care about gate collection and PPV buys.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 28, 2021, 12:36:01 PM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 28, 2021, 09:23:42 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 28, 2021, 08:23:01 AM

We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin

. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier. Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

Caleb has to be angry so we will see a good fight, this is the last fight of Canelo this year so hopefully, he can finally find a matchup that would give him a real challenge, not the last two fights he beat this year. He suffered a little cut, that's not a big deal for Caleb, but at least he experienced how strong Canelo is.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 28, 2021, 09:23:42 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on September 28, 2021, 08:23:01 AM

We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin

. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier. Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 28, 2021, 08:23:01 AM

We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin

. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 28, 2021, 08:16:29 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 28, 2021, 12:42:07 AM

Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

I'm thinking the opposite of what you think hehe. If they have that act scripted, then there should not be hurting physically, verbal spat should be okay and if ever that act was scripted then they deserve an Oscars lol.

Yeah, you have a point that there's no need for that scuffle if an increase in viewership is what they need as Canelo is already a crowd drawer. Caleb Plant is trying to get under the skin of Canelo in order for him to lose focus as revenge will be the only thing in his mind thus setting aside their pre-fight plan.

Viewership doesn't need to be increased, Canelo himself is already bankable star even out of boxing, so for me this is not scripted, Plant has been a keyboard warrior and try to be the alpha by verbally spatting with Canelo during their face off. But it's good to see Canelo acting like that, he needs to get out the feeling before the fight. And during the fight itself, it will be very different, all the emotions, what has been said will be boiling as Caleb crosses the line, specially about Canelo's mom. And Canelo predicted that he will KO Plant as he is fired up.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 28, 2021, 08:16:29 AM

Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 28, 2021, 12:42:07 AM

Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

I'm thinking the opposite of what you think hehe. If they have that act scripted, then there should not be hurting physically, verbal spat should be okay and if ever that act was scripted then they deserve an Oscars lol.

Yeah, you have a point that there's no need for that scuffle if an increase in viewership is what they need as Canelo is already a crowd drawer. Caleb Plant is trying to get under the skin of Canelo in order for him to lose focus as revenge will be the only thing in his mind thus setting aside their pre-fight plan.

We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 28, 2021, 12:42:07 AM

Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

I'm thinking the opposite of what you think hehe. If they have that act scripted, then there should not be hurting physically, verbal spat should be okay and if ever that act was scripted then they deserve an Oscars lol.

Yeah, you have a point that there's no need for that scuffle if an increase in viewership is what they need as Canelo is already a crowd drawer. Caleb Plant is trying to get under the skin of Canelo in order for him to lose focus as revenge will be the only thing in his mind thus setting aside their pre-fight plan.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 27, 2021, 08:09:01 AM

Canelo is okay with the statement of Caleb Plant that he is using illegal drugs, but to disrespect her mother, that's below the belt, and the fact that he said it in his face during the face-off, I think Plant really provoked a fight.

"He Talked About My Mother, He Said 'You Motherf**ker'": Confused Canelo Reveals What Sparked Press Conference Brawl

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Saul Canelo Alvarez has revealed exactly what Caleb Plant said to him which sparked their press conference brawl.

And by the looks of things, Canelo got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Speaking just after their heated clash, Canelo told reporters that Plant took a below-the-belt shot by talking about his mother during their face-off.

Now I am 100% sure that all of this is scripted. Caleb hasn't abused anyone like this in any of his previous fights. If he is deviating from his normal behavior, then it is either resulting from the directives given by the organizers (to increase the viewership count and publicity), or as a result of a plan being drafted by his team in order to provoke Canelo. Either way, I don't disapprove of these cheap tactics. This is not the right way to attract more viewership and interest. And when you have a legend like Canelo at one end, you definitely don't need this.

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I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.

Right now it's a psychological war Plant accusing Alvarez of drugs while Canelo keeps announcing that Plant is not at his level, Canelo has been in this psywar before but he never pushes anyone, he is agitated by Caleb Plant's provocation, I think it's not about making to hype the fight it's more on the two fighters wanting to get on his head, six weeks and we will see more trash talk and things will be more personal, they really hate each other.

Canelo is okay with the statement of Caleb Plant that he is using illegal drugs, but to disrespect her mother, that's below the belt, and the fact that he said it in his face during the face-off, I think Plant really provoked a fight.

"He Talked About My Mother, He Said 'You Motherf**ker'": Confused Canelo Reveals What Sparked Press Conference Brawl

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Saul Canelo Alvarez has revealed exactly what Caleb Plant said to him which sparked their press conference brawl.

And by the looks of things, Canelo got the complete wrong end of the stick.

Speaking just after their heated clash, Canelo told reporters that Plant took a below-the-belt shot by talking about his mother during their face-off.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 27, 2021, 02:14:41 AM

I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.

Right now it's a psychological war Plant accusing Alvarez of drugs while Canelo keeps announcing that Plant is not at his level, Canelo has been in this psywar before but he never pushes anyone, he is agitated by Caleb Plant's provocation, I think it's not about making to hype the fight it's more on the two fighters wanting to get on his head, six weeks and we will see more trash talk and things will be more personal, they really hate each other.

Yeah, watch some video of Canelo being interviewed both in Spanish and in English, and he is saying the same, Caleb is not on his level and this is a very high level fight and no matter what Caleb is saying in the social media, Canelo will let Caleb pay for that inside the ring. And in those video's, Canelo is fast with those body shots and left hook and this will be his main weapon against Caleb, and for sure he can't take that because Canelo has one of the best hook in the business.

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That was really shocking, just imagine, Canelo just bully Callum Smith in their fight and he bounced back with a very big win. You can also tell that Canelo is just too superior that he can make a good boxer look bad when they are in the ring.

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The writing on the wall is clear.. Canelo is just dominating his weight class, similar to what Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield, Wladimir Klitschko and GGG did during their peak years. He is just 31 years old and I don't foresee any significant competition for him in the next 2-3 years at least. And I am really getting worried about Caleb. He made a few statements (probably being told to do so by the organizers), and it might have got Canelo really irritated. I am afraid that Caleb will be beaten to pulp on November 6th.

Most probably he will be beaten up, but as a boxer, he knows the risk of what he is doing and he is surely still confident that he can upset Canelo because he has not tasted a loss yet. If he is really a great boxer, then he should not be afraid of Canelo, this is a competition, if you want to be the best, you need to beat your toughest opponent, and that is no other than Canelo Alvarez.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on September 27, 2021, 02:14:41 AM

I don't think Canelo would lose in this fight, Mike Tyson in his time is fully reliant on his power, he has become an indiscipline boxer, goes to parties, and use illegal drugs. Canelo is always focused on his fight, that's why he is dominant now and he keeps improving.

Right now it's a psychological war Plant accusing Alvarez of drugs while Canelo keeps announcing that Plant is not at his level, Canelo has been in this psywar before but he never pushes anyone, he is agitated by Caleb Plant's provocation, I think it's not about making to hype the fight it's more on the two fighters wanting to get on his head, six weeks and we will see more trash talk and things will be more personal, they really hate each other.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 27, 2021, 02:37:47 AM

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Quote from: CaVO32 on September 26, 2021, 05:18:35 PM

Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

LOL.. comparing Canelo Álvarez with Anthony Joshua? The former is a legend, while the latter is a media product who is overhyped beyond all limits. Usyk could win over AJ because the latter's skill sets are not extraordinary. That is not the case with Canelo. He is far ahead of anyone else in his weight class. That gap didn't existed between AJ and Usyk. AJ was the clear favorite, but no one thought that he was invincible. In case of Canelo, I would say that he's near invincible. Caleb may be having +500 or +600 odds with him, but I would say that even these odds are over-predicting his chances.

Joshua was been beaten already by Ruiz Jr, so I agree that there could be no comparison against Canelo. Yes, Canelo too has 1 lost against one of the best, but that was before he really turn into a great and legendary boxing.

Again, smart money would go on Canelo here, ML is not that attractive, but maybe a decision win or even a knockout is a good bet.

Probably a win by KO, yeah, that's probably what's gonna happen in this fight as Canelo would not let those disrespectful words of Caleb Plant pass, he will make a way to teach Plant a lesson, that's why the win by KO is very possible, and I think the odds are good for that kind of bet.

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on September 27, 2021, 12:19:41 AM

Quote from: CaVO32 on September 26, 2021, 05:18:35 PM

Who knows, we can have another upset after Usyk won over Joshua? Though Canelo has really a lot of advantages over Caleb but sometimes their preparation is the key to their success inside the ring. So Canelo should not underestimate what Caleb can do, he needs to cover all angles to win on this fight.

LOL.. comparing Canelo Álvarez with Anthony Joshua? The former is a legend, while the latter is a media product who is overhyped beyond all limits. Usyk could win over AJ because the latter's skill sets are not extraordinary. That is not the case with Canelo. He is far ahead of anyone else in his weight class. That gap didn't existed between AJ and Usyk. AJ was the clear favorite, but no one thought that he was invincible. In case of Canelo, I would say that he's near invincible. Caleb may be having +500 or +600 odds with him, but I would say that even these odds are over-predicting his chances.

Joshua was been beaten already by Ruiz Jr, so I agree that there could be no comparison against Canelo. Yes, Canelo too has 1 lost against one of the best, but that was before he really turn into a great and legendary boxing.

Again, smart money would go on Canelo here, ML is not that attractive, but maybe a decision win or even a knockout is a good bet.

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