[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 17.

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 02, 2021, 07:26:47 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on October 02, 2021, 06:25:08 AM

Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

Please explain how can 1.08 be risky ? You think that Caleb Plant can surprise boxing industry November 6 ? If Canelo persuasively beat top2 and top3 boxer in worlds ranking, how can a top7 be more dangerous. Btw, during press conference, Plant came to Canelo and pushed him. Canelo responded with a punch and left a cut on Plants face. Canelo has already won before their fight Cheesy

About the small odds. Instead of wasting my limited budget to win with a 1.08 odd, I would better make a bet on a different event and get more. That what I was trying to say.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 02, 2021, 06:25:08 AM

Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

His recent fight definitely caused him some injuries so it could be a factor that Plant might win given that fight after another fight isn't really your best for someone as some injuries might last longer and can affect that fighter.

Who was injured? Plant or Canelo? I'm a little confused here as I don't see both that are injured in their previous fights. Maybe you mean the cut that Plant got when the two meet because he throw some insults about Canelo's mother? Please be more specific.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 02, 2021, 06:25:08 AM

Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

His recent fight definitely caused him some injuries so it could be a factor that Plant might win given that fight after another fight isn't really your best for someone as some injuries might last longer and can affect that fighter.

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Quote from: goinmerry on October 02, 2021, 07:26:47 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on October 02, 2021, 06:25:08 AM

Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

For 1.08, I find it too risky as well, but for those who really are risk-takers and see the 8% as a gift, I think they would put big money and take that easy money. For big bookies, I think they can handle big bets, so let's say someone bet $1 million for Canelo to win, and he would win, so that's $8,000 easily money there.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on October 02, 2021, 06:25:08 AM

Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

Clearly, you didn't understand my post. If it's not risky for you then be brave enough to bet a big amount for Canelo. Caleb is weak right? No chance to win.

Why not support your statement? Why in the end you will say you don't want to bet because odds are too small lol. An excellent argument you have there. Cheesy

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Too risky? You think that Caleb has chances to win? Personally, I find him weaker than other fightes who Canelo has fought recently. But I would not bet, because there is not surprize in this fight and odds are too small. I would better bet on other event.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on October 02, 2021, 05:10:47 AM

There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.

Stake.com odds on that match:

Caleb Plant - 5.6
Canelo Alvarez - 1.08

I agree that it will remain like that until the date of the match. No profit return for betting on Canelo. My limit on accepting small odds is only at 1.3. Betting at 1.08 is too risky even Canelo has a great chance to win in that match.

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Quote from: molsewid on October 01, 2021, 11:05:07 PM

But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Do you mean slight odds changes favoring Canelo? I doubt that will happen. The gap of odds between Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant won't be changed. Not much profit if you bet on Canelo unless you have the guts to bet a decent amount because you think it's a sure win for Canelo.

Try to check other betting options such as Canelo winning by TKO or decision, or on what round, if you want to have decent odds for betting on Canelo.

ML? nah, unless you really put a huge amount of money just to be able to get some decent win.

But a KO or maybe a UD might be attractive. Yes, smart money will go on Canelo's favor but for regular gamblers, we need to bet on where we will get a good win and ML is not.

There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.

Yes, that's what I said to him. Not making sense to put money on Canelo Moneyline. The current betting odds (outside crypto) was Canelo Alvarez @ -900 and Caleb Plant @ +500. For others to give you a clear view, you need to bet $900 for Canelo to win $100 in return.

If you have that guts to risk some money thinking it's an easy win for Canelo, then up to you to decide. But for me, obviously I will skip on that.

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Quote from: harizen on October 02, 2021, 05:04:29 AM

Quote from: molsewid on October 01, 2021, 11:05:07 PM

But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Do you mean slight odds changes favoring Canelo? I doubt that will happen. The gap of odds between Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant won't be changed. Not much profit if you bet on Canelo unless you have the guts to bet a decent amount because you think it's a sure win for Canelo.

Try to check other betting options such as Canelo winning by TKO or decision, or on what round, if you want to have decent odds for betting on Canelo.

ML? nah, unless you really put a huge amount of money just to be able to get some decent win.

But a KO or maybe a UD might be attractive. Yes, smart money will go on Canelo's favor but for regular gamblers, we need to bet on where we will get a good win and ML is not.

There's no odd yet in sportsbet.io last time I check, but we still have some time once they put in live on their platform.

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Quote from: molsewid on October 01, 2021, 11:05:07 PM

But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Do you mean slight odds changes favoring Canelo? I doubt that will happen. The gap of odds between Canelo Alvarez and Caleb Plant won't be changed. Not much profit if you bet on Canelo unless you have the guts to bet a decent amount because you think it's a sure win for Canelo.

Try to check other betting options such as Canelo winning by TKO or decision, or on what round, if you want to have decent odds for betting on Canelo.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 28, 2021, 08:23:42 AM

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We will know in their coming fight if Caleb Plant's strategy is working, but I really doubt that because we know how smart Canelo is, he might show some weakness of not being able to control his emotion but you can see in his eyes how focus he is in the ring.

I think the fight that took place at the press conference a while ago, will trigger a very strong attraction for boxing fans to watch the fight, in that incident Canelo emotions were not fully provoked in my opinion and it can be seen from the small wound Caleb got on his face, to be honest I can't imagine if security was a bit late to separate them and I'm sure Caleb's face could be badly crushed that day Grin

. I think caleb will get all the wrath of Canelo in the ring later and I personally believe that in the next fight Canelo will smash caleb face.

You have a point but if Caleb will just focus on that trashtalk he received, he might end up at a disadvantage. An act of revenge is good but Canelo should control his emotion rather than just destroy Caleb Plant because of what happened in the press conference.

Now that Caleb knows the ability of Canelo once they faced off, he now needs to think of a way how to handle Canelo at the close bout. Canelo strikes his opening that quick and he didn't anticipate it.

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Quote from: molsewid on October 01, 2021, 11:05:07 PM

Quote from: BALIK on September 28, 2021, 11:36:01 AM

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier. Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

The fight that we are going to see between Canelo vs. Plant will probably going to be the real fight between the two fighters leaving the aspect of sportsmanship behind because of the conflict that have risen during their face off on press conference. The drama seem to be the highlight of the upcoming fight that gives a more exciting fight to watch for to every bettors and boxing fans. But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

Yes, but after the fight, these two warriors are going to probably hug and show sportsmanship. Unless Canelo really take it personally that he won't allow Caleb to make amends on him.

So it will be good while it last, so we will see if Caleb can bring his talk inside the ring and Canelo more prepared and focus, get the belt unify the division. Thus this fight is going to be very intense and explosive in the first early rounds. Until Canelo connects his famous left hook.

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Quote from: BALIK on September 28, 2021, 11:36:01 AM

That fight in the press will surely add more spice to the in-ring fight. I think that the security should have been a bit more proactive in separating them earlier. Caleb received some heavy blows on his face and I hope that he wouldn't be badly injured after that incident. This will only fuel Caleb to be more furious and angry at Canelo in the ring. The pre-match drama has been completed, waiting for the in-ring one.

The fight that we are going to see between Canelo vs. Plant will probably going to be the real fight between the two fighters leaving the aspect of sportsmanship behind because of the conflict that have risen during their face off on press conference. The drama seem to be the highlight of the upcoming fight that gives a more exciting fight to watch for to every bettors and boxing fans. But for me as a bettor I would willing to take a chance to bet in favor on Canelo which I think this man deserves to have a odd favor.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 01, 2021, 03:53:54 PM

Bookies see that fans and bettors are not buying the drama. They still think that Canelo has a high edge over Plant. Though for sure there are still people who will bet for Plant in hope that upset will happen, but the majority still siding for Canelo knowing that talent and skills wise this man have a lot of advantage.

The chance that bookies implied is very small, giving such odd for Plant. If you have spare and you are into gambling, this one might give you some enticing interest to multiply or to grow your money.

Even the fans buy that drama, it has nothing to do with the change of odds. Bookies are not taking that as a basis if they want to change the odds. Mostly, odds will change if there's an event that will directly affect the performance of the boxer like having some issues, injury, training progress, etc.

If anyone wants to bet on Canelo but seems not worth it because of the odds, even you wait for several months, that won't change or just a bit. If betting for Caleb Plant don't expect much that bookies will increase the odds up to around x10 just because he seems underpowered by Canelo on that recent press conference issue. The current odds for Plant to win the fight is already good odds.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 29, 2021, 10:55:47 PM

OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.

Bookies see that fans and bettors are not buying the drama. They still think that Canelo has a high edge over Plant. Though for sure there are still people who will bet for Plant in hope that upset will happen, but the majority still siding for Canelo knowing that talent and skills wise this man have a lot of advantage.

The chance that bookies implied is very small, giving such odd for Plant. If you have spare and you are into gambling, this one might give you some enticing interest to multiply or to grow your money.

Why not go for a KO win for Plant, I'm sure the odds will be higher since people do not believe that Plant has a decent chance to upset Canelo here. But of course, for fun you can do that, probably betting on per round KO would be more interesting as the odds gets higher. The full market of odds will be available soon, so we will find out how attractive it is.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 29, 2021, 10:55:47 PM

OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.

Bookies see that fans and bettors are not buying the drama. They still think that Canelo has a high edge over Plant. Though for sure there are still people who will bet for Plant in hope that upset will happen, but the majority still siding for Canelo knowing that talent and skills wise this man have a lot of advantage.

The chance that bookies implied is very small, giving such odd for Plant. If you have spare and you are into gambling, this one might give you some enticing interest to multiply or to grow your money.

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Weird though to see Canelo's losing his cool on a press con, so I'm not sure if this was stage or not, but as you can see when he throw that left hook, it was not on a close fist but rather like a chop, a karate chop. But it took a damage on Caleb's face already, thus it will create an even greater hype for this upcoming fight. But the odds are not going to change, Canelo will still be the favourite to win this fight.

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

I think you hit the point, nobody likes to mess with the mother, and besides that I think that anyone would react that way, in fact when he clarified it on Twitter for me that attitude was totally understandable. I think it's good that he has taken that small brand, so he learns to respect and especially women.
And starting from what is coming is a great fight, all this adds more emotion, there is what we call in my land as "Pique" and that is a very good additional ingredient, I imagine that after the fight he must apologize for having gotten involved. with her mother.

Caleb says it was just a scratch but the pictures don't really look like a scratch. It's the cause of the sunglass he wore that time seems to have crammed down that resulted in that mark, you can't stage that kind of bruise.

They don't even have to insult each other its bound to happen. Every time two dominant males in one stage will cause a commotion, that is why there has to be someone in between when there is faceoff, it happens all the time in MMA. During that time, they were just them, who organized that faceoff?

I think it's because of the World Boxing Association, World Boxing Organization and World Boxing Council Unification fight for world super middleweight titles, also because Caleb depends on the International Boxing Federation I imagine they agreed. with the World Boxing Organization to set up the match. Also seeing the fame of the Mexican is very great because his incentive will be 40 million dollars while the American will take 10 million dollars, I think that only that is enough for either of the two fighters win or lose.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 29, 2021, 10:55:47 PM

OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.

The cause of it is because we already have seen the preview of the fight which was during their face-off, we saw already whos going to win. Caleb may be undefeated but base on experience alone he has just very little chance so it would take more than just trash talk to derail the fate of this fight. His odds may even go low by the fight date comes.

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OK.. we're almost in to October and I don't see any real change in the odds for Caleb Plant. For Caleb, the odds remain in +500 to +600 range (which are still overestimating his chances IMO). None of his verbal tirade against Canelo seems to have impressed the fans. If there was an uptick in bets favoring him, then the odds would have definitely changed. That hasn't happened. Neither the fans, or the sportsbooks think that he is having a realistic chance of defeating Canelo. And this may be the most one-sided fight featuring Canelo in the recent times.

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That was just my speculation because we all know that boxers want to hype their fight to make more money. Just like what happened with the Mayweather vs Logan Paul fight, I guess that one though looks real but it could also be an acting job too. But anyway, just don't mind it, we will see the fight soon, so we will see how Canelo would punish Caleb Plant in the ring.

It was different on Mayweather vs Paul because their fight has no bearing and really needed hype. Mayweather's reputation is not that good too even he is an undefeated boxer so they really need to do something to catch and attract the interest of the audiences and viewers.

It's hard for me to believe even just for speculation that the incident that happened at the Alvarez-Plant press conference is an acting job.

Regardless, I hope Caleb Plant is not just pure of talks. For Canelo, I hope that trash talk won't distract him. It's normal to get in emotion but it can affect a boxer's performance on the ring especially if heated one.

I really think that Caleb is doing everything that he can to try to get Canelo out of his game but this is a dangerous game, I have seen many of the professional fights of Canelo and one thing I have noticed is that even if he was an incredibly punching power he does not want to injure his opponent, if it seems the opponent is about to go down he gives them a chance to go down before receiving more punishment, if Caleb is doing all of this and does not have the skill to back it up, I think Canelo may try not only to beat him but to hurt him.

Caleb has the skills because he is an undefeated fighter, but his skills is way below the skills of Canelo that's why he is the underdog of this fight. Actually what Caleb needs to do here is stop trash talking and focus to surprise the fans as the fans are not really expecting that he has a chance to win here.

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