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August 23, 2021, 02:41:42 AM
#50
Nobody gave Ugas a chance against Pacquiao and he won the fight with ease. Plant deserves the benefit of the doubt. I doubt he will win but he isn't so far out of his league that he can't pull off an upset if Canelo has an off night or if he makes adjustments in his style that Canelo isn't prepared for.
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August 23, 2021, 01:38:57 AM
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I think he was in Canelo's radar for a long time as he has also one of the major belt in the 168 lbs division. Yes, it is very important, for Canelo to cement his legacy and then clean up the division, for Plant, who is looking for money fights. Because he is a great fighter, but haven't had that fan base outside of the US. So the pressure is more on Caleb Plant here, he needs to be 100% on this fight, otherwise, we will be the next victim of Canelo and there's no debate that he is the number one pound for pound fighter right now.

Canelo, still the heavy favorite here fans all over the world, is eyeing for him to win.

This another good fight for Alvarez defending his belt and putting his name once again to the top, while just like you said it's a big challenge for Plant as he have now the chance to be known by many fans outside, good paycheck and if he wins, it would open many big opportunities for his career.
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August 23, 2021, 01:16:50 AM
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I think he was in Canelo's radar for a long time as he has also one of the major belt in the 168 lbs division. Yes, it is very important, for Canelo to cement his legacy and then clean up the division, for Plant, who is looking for money fights. Because he is a great fighter, but haven't had that fan base outside of the US. So the pressure is more on Caleb Plant here, he needs to be 100% on this fight, otherwise, we will be the next victim of Canelo and there's no debate that he is the number one pound for pound fighter right now.

if you happen to take a big risk on Plant, the odds are like 7.50 on him. if miraculously, he can pull this off, you will go home big. because placing bet on Canelo is somewhat not worth at 1.08. maybe, let's just be contented watching this fight this nov. hopefully, there will be new blood in boxing that will make this sports alive. this is why a lot of boxing fans are sad when Pacquiao mentioned that this ugas fight might be his last.
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August 22, 2021, 11:25:14 PM
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Saul Alvarez v Caleb Plant: Title unification bout set for Las Vegas in November

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/58276967

I'm glad that it will finally push there's a lot of accusations on both sides, Canelo is already a great fighter but one fighter who is up for debate if he really that great and that is Plant, the fight is very important for both fighters, for Canelo to seal his being an undisputed middleweight champion and for Plant who is seeking big money and big names for a long time, I'm sure this is going to be a very interesting fight and will end in a stoppage.
I think he was in Canelo's radar for a long time as he has also one of the major belt in the 168 lbs division. Yes, it is very important, for Canelo to cement his legacy and then clean up the division, for Plant, who is looking for money fights. Because he is a great fighter, but haven't had that fan base outside of the US. So the pressure is more on Caleb Plant here, he needs to be 100% on this fight, otherwise, we will be the next victim of Canelo and there's no debate that he is the number one pound for pound fighter right now.
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August 22, 2021, 10:23:48 PM
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Saul Alvarez v Caleb Plant: Title unification bout set for Las Vegas in November

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/58276967

I'm glad that it will finally push there's a lot of accusations on both sides, Canelo is already a great fighter but one fighter who is up for debate if he really that great and that is Plant, the fight is very important for both fighters, for Canelo to seal his being an undisputed middleweight champion and for Plant who is seeking big money and big names for a long time, I'm sure this is going to be a very interesting fight and will end in a stoppage.
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August 22, 2021, 05:57:06 PM
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The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.

If he wins plus a couple of defenses against the top name in the middleweight and he will land as the greatest middleweight of all time, I still consider Bernard Hopkins as the best middleweight champion He compiled 20 defenses against 17 opponents he is also the first man to hold all four major sanctioning body titles (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) in any division at the same time, Golovkin also has that record but Hopkins was still fighting at 40, now Canelo can break this record judging the way he fights.

It's debatable, for me the greatest is Marvin Hagler, seen his fight when I was growing up. Of course Hopkins record will stand and also could be considered in the top 10 if not top 3. But Canelo is campaigning now in the 168 lbs and as hight as 175 lbs.

Regarding the Canelo's fight with Caleb Plant, I think this is going to be one-sided fight and Plant will get the worst beating of his career against Canelo.
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August 20, 2021, 11:01:21 PM
#44
The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.

If he wins plus a couple of defenses against the top name in the middleweight and he will land as the greatest middleweight of all time, I still consider Bernard Hopkins as the best middleweight champion He compiled 20 defenses against 17 opponents he is also the first man to hold all four major sanctioning body titles (WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO) in any division at the same time, Golovkin also has that record but Hopkins was still fighting at 40, now Canelo can break this record judging the way he fights.
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August 20, 2021, 10:28:50 PM
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Canelo’s next opponent in boxing is hard to find canelo’s boxing dominance has earned him a great 51-1-2 record, but can he jump on two weight divisions to win over an experienced player of this level. Alvarez set foot in the ring in Las Vegas on Saturday in hopes of becoming four time world champions against kovalev it's the store's potentially historic boxing night and it'll be better than canallo than our alvarez.
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August 20, 2021, 09:50:18 PM
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Canelo's next opponent looks hard to find. The negotiations seem to be unstable even until now. The match between Alvarez and Plant was almost a done deal before things turned out differently. There came Bivol as the next possible opponent but it seems to have fallen through as well. I hope this is it and Canelo and Caleb is really going to face each other inside the ring come October. This is a better fight than the other possibility. But still I think Canelo is in his peak and it is very hard for Caleb to surmount Canelo's power and tough chin.
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August 20, 2021, 07:35:32 PM
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The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.

Yeah, Caleb is a good boxer, no doubt about it, but he is not on Canelo's level in my opinion. Canelo is way above any middle or super middle weight champion and has improved a lot in the last two years and continue to become one of the best in our generation.

Caleb Plant is a stationary fighter, I don't see much movement from him in his previous fight, he just go in front of his opponent and try to use his power. But it won't make difference, as Canelo will find that body shot to weaken or knock him out.
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August 20, 2021, 07:06:32 PM
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The fight is back on. My opinion has still not changed. Canelo is many levels above Caleb Plant and I see him winning comfortably. This would be a historic win for Canelo because he would become the first undisputed champion from Mexico.
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August 20, 2021, 04:46:03 AM
#39
Canelo really wants to prove a lot in the boxing ring so it will be another milestone for him to create a new record and a good name. However, it will still be a tough fight for him since Caleb is also well prepared for this. I hope that Canelo would continuously have a consistent win. It will surely be an exciting match.

He doesn't need to prove anything more, he is the p4p top one in my book. This is just icing in the cake for this career. Unifying the belts and then chasing more champions in the light heavyweight. He is the cash cow, so no doubt that those champions like Bivol and Beterbiev are willing to be a dancing partner of Canelo in the future. And once he get those belts, he will go down in 168 lbs, as this is more of his weight class.
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August 20, 2021, 04:44:05 AM
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The fight with Caleb is said to be postponed. Its now turned to Bivol vs Canelo next month, it's a short notice for Bivol but I guess its fair because Canelo has to bloat himself for the light heavyweight division. It's shifting to another division that a boxer will experience sudden change.



The fight is officially on after so many delays and failed talk they are finally going at it on Nov 9 for the undisputed super-middleweight title, it will now settle who really is the best MIddleweight on this generation, many will say that Canelo is the best in this generation but all doubts however small should stop after he beats Plant and Plant can now prove that he is a very much different fighter from all Canelo faces in the past, this is going to be one of the biggest events this year.
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August 20, 2021, 02:00:22 AM
#37
This is very interesting match, a world championships with four weight class vs undefeated boxer.

I don't think Canelo will have trouble against Caleb due to different weight, because he's on fire and want to show his perform. Caleb plant's boxing style mostly multiple attack with his jab and hook, while Canelo's style is counter punchers. I've seen Caleb play defensive very good, but Canelo defensive and dodging skills is on another level when he fight with Daniel Jacobs.
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August 20, 2021, 01:40:38 AM
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Canelo really wants to prove a lot in the boxing ring so it will be another milestone for him to create a new record and a good name. However, it will still be a tough fight for him since Caleb is also well prepared for this. I hope that Canelo would continuously have a consistent win. It will surely be an exciting match.

The fight with Caleb is said to be postponed. Its now turned to Bivol vs Canelo next month, it's a short notice for Bivol but I guess its fair because Canelo has to bloat himself for the light heavyweight division. It's shifting to another division that a boxer will experience sudden change.

I know its different sports but Adesanya experienced his first loss when he fight Jan Błachowicz who is an LHW. It's not a very comfortable weight division when your normal built is not a huge man from the beginning.
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August 20, 2021, 12:59:10 AM
#35
Canelo really wants to prove a lot in the boxing ring so it will be another milestone for him to create a new record and a good name. However, it will still be a tough fight for him since Caleb is also well prepared for this. I hope that Canelo would continuously have a consistent win. It will surely be an exciting match.
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August 20, 2021, 12:00:21 AM
#34
Even then it is difficult to see Canelo losing this fight even at that weight, Canelo right now is at his prime, he has his best physical condition, his body can take the most damage and he now has enough experience to create an intelligent plan for the fight, honestly I do not see him losing this fight regardless of the weight, I know that Bivol is good but it is not anywhere close the level Canelo is in right now.

I would have really loved to see a fight between Canelo and Caleb being that Caleb has a championship belt that Canelo wants to make history as the as the first undisputed super middleweight champion in the IBF, but since negotiations have fallen out, i guess this fight with Bivol will suffice even though just reputation and not their championship belts will be at stake.

Just as you said, Canelo is a favourite for the fight against Bivol, his morale is really high from his last three fights agains Callum Smith, Avni Yildirim, and Billy Joe Saunders. I hope Bivol can match his momentum.



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August 19, 2021, 10:12:50 PM
#33
Why did Bivol's name suddenly surface as Canelo's possible next opponent? Is there nobody else who's got the skills and power that would probably match that of Canelo's? Bivol has a nice record more or less but it seems he's too unexperienced for Canelo. Although the fighter's knock-out record is not that bad, it is not impressive either, having his last 5 wins all by way of unanimous decision.

Bivol's only chance is if Canelo would be having a hard time with his new weight. What was the heaviest that Canelo fought at? He hasn't even been to 160 lbs, right?
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August 19, 2021, 04:54:40 PM
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I like the fight but I don't like they to be in a catchweight, Canelo has fought once in LHW already defeating Kovalev. Although they have admitted that he won't be fighting at LHW and obviously goes down to 168 as his home weight. However, Bivol is the champion in LHW, so for Canelo to be really called LHW champion he needs to go back up again to 175 lbs so that there will be no excuses or arguments if he beats Bivol.
Yes, Canelo already defeats Kovalev at 175, therefore he can beat LHW champs no problem. But Canelo seems to realize that his best weight isn't 175. Imagine if Bivol agrees to fight at near 168, I think his chance is extremely slim. I've read Bivol's record and found it unimpressive. Only 18 wins with boxers who their name I've never heard. Bivol's hope only if Canelo agrees to fight at 175, betting that he won't be in his optimum condition to fight.
Even then it is difficult to see Canelo losing this fight even at that weight, Canelo right now is at his prime, he has his best physical condition, his body can take the most damage and he now has enough experience to create an intelligent plan for the fight, honestly I do not see him losing this fight regardless of the weight, I know that Bivol is good but it is not anywhere close the level Canelo is in right now.

He fought different fighters already, even a taller and bigger fight but we can still see how he dominated the fight. Caleb Plant is perfect on his record, but his KO rate is very low, so I would assume that he is not a heavy hitter and he needs to win in points and don't allow Canelo to hurt him if he want to have chances on judges scorecards.
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August 19, 2021, 04:09:02 PM
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I like the fight but I don't like they to be in a catchweight, Canelo has fought once in LHW already defeating Kovalev. Although they have admitted that he won't be fighting at LHW and obviously goes down to 168 as his home weight. However, Bivol is the champion in LHW, so for Canelo to be really called LHW champion he needs to go back up again to 175 lbs so that there will be no excuses or arguments if he beats Bivol.
Yes, Canelo already defeats Kovalev at 175, therefore he can beat LHW champs no problem. But Canelo seems to realize that his best weight isn't 175. Imagine if Bivol agrees to fight at near 168, I think his chance is extremely slim. I've read Bivol's record and found it unimpressive. Only 18 wins with boxers who their name I've never heard. Bivol's hope only if Canelo agrees to fight at 175, betting that he won't be in his optimum condition to fight.
Even then it is difficult to see Canelo losing this fight even at that weight, Canelo right now is at his prime, he has his best physical condition, his body can take the most damage and he now has enough experience to create an intelligent plan for the fight, honestly I do not see him losing this fight regardless of the weight, I know that Bivol is good but it is not anywhere close the level Canelo is in right now.
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