[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 34.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 19, 2021, 04:26:07 PM

Unlocking this thread now and changed its title because Canelo and Caleb Plant have agreed to unify their belts this coming November. Though no contracts signing at the moment but i do think that this is a go since this is Team Canelo's objective this year, to collect all the Belt in the Super middleweight division. IMO, Caleb Plant offer a very little to none resistance on Canelo's quest to unify the belt of this weight category.

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Sources: Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant agree to terms on undisputed super middleweight title bout in November

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32050685/sources-canelo-alvarez-caleb-plant-agree-terms-undisputed-super-middleweight-title-bout

Great update, and a great fight for Canelo this year.

Another boxer that is undefeated might suffer a defeat at the hands of Canelo.
his fights this year were all good, hopefully, this is a more exciting one, and that he will not just easily dominate Caleb Plant.

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Unlocking this thread now and changed its title because Canelo and Caleb Plant have agreed to unify their belts this coming November. Though no contracts signing at the moment but i do think that this is a go since this is Team Canelo's objective this year, to collect all the Belt in the Super middleweight division. IMO, Caleb Plant offer a very little to none resistance on Canelo's quest to unify the belt of this weight category.

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Sources: Canelo Alvarez, Caleb Plant agree to terms on undisputed super middleweight title bout in November

https://tv5.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/32050685/sources-canelo-alvarez-caleb-plant-agree-terms-undisputed-super-middleweight-title-bout

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Quote from: Jating on August 08, 2021, 08:27:27 AM

I think this fight is already cancelled.

And I agree with Reynoso, it's better for Canelo to unify all the belts in 168, not sure who is the last man to do it, but it will be the best interest for Canelo. If he fights Caleb Plant and then his belt, then he can go as high as light heavy weight again. But not sure if there will be money on that division because Bivol or Beterviev is not a US household name. Maybe he can defend his belt against David Benavidez who will be fighting against Uzcategui on Aug 28.

Lol, they have second thoughts on fighting Bivol because of weight issue. Canelo is hesitant to move up in weight as LHW is not his comfort zone.

Fighting Plant would fulfill their goal of unifying his current division but as per Plant statement, he is not willing to be the guy to make Canelo the undisputed champion of the Super Middleweight division Grin

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Anyways, this speculated fight may not happen this September 18 because of different issues so i will be locking this one and reopen if the negotiations start once again.

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Quote from: Jating on August 08, 2021, 08:27:27 AM

I think this fight is already cancelled.

And I agree with Reynoso, it's better for Canelo to unify all the belts in 168, not sure who is the last man to do it, but it will be the best interest for Canelo. If he fights Caleb Plant and then his belt, then he can go as high as light heavy weight again. But not sure if there will be money on that division because Bivol or Beterviev is not a US household name. Maybe he can defend his belt against David Benavidez who will be fighting against Uzcategui on Aug 28.

The thread should be close because it will not materialize, Plant should take yes on all of Canelo's demands he is the challenger he can do the same if he beats Canelo, Canelo is the superstar here and holds the majority of the title, although Plant is also the champion it's a fact that Canelo is the one that will attract more money on this fight, he takes this fight beat him and then he can command big fights on his next fights and he will line himself as one of the best.

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Quote from: robelneo on August 08, 2021, 12:04:43 AM

There's a possibility that the fight will not push through, Eddy Reynoso is working to get the Plant to happen

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Reynoso told The Athletic that Canelo would not be fighting WBA light heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol. Those talks are now “OFF,” according to Lance Pugmire.
“The project we have before us now to unify at 168. We are working real hard on this and hope to get all this together,” Reynoso said

This is their goal right now because they feel Plant is beatable and both fighters are going to get a huge paycheck, I hope the fight finally push through, this is a more interesting fight than Bivol

Eddy Reynoso says Canelo wants to unify at 168, Plant negotiations restarting

I think this fight is already cancelled.

And I agree with Reynoso, it's better for Canelo to unify all the belts in 168, not sure who is the last man to do it, but it will be the best interest for Canelo. If he fights Caleb Plant and then his belt, then he can go as high as light heavy weight again. But not sure if there will be money on that division because Bivol or Beterviev is not a US household name. Maybe he can defend his belt against David Benavidez who will be fighting against Uzcategui on Aug 28.

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There's a possibility that the fight will not push through, Eddy Reynoso is working to get the Plant to happen

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Reynoso told The Athletic that Canelo would not be fighting WBA light heavyweight champion Dmitry Bivol. Those talks are now “OFF,” according to Lance Pugmire.
“The project we have before us now to unify at 168. We are working real hard on this and hope to get all this together,” Reynoso said

This is their goal right now because they feel Plant is beatable and both fighters are going to get a huge paycheck, I hope the fight finally push through, this is a more interesting fight than Bivol

Eddy Reynoso says Canelo wants to unify at 168, Plant negotiations restarting

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 07, 2021, 09:13:58 AM

He must give GGG a third fight. Otherwise, who else he shouls fight. There no good fighter left, who he hasnt beaten already. Should he start fighting same fighters for the second time and beat everyone two times?

I remember his interview when he answered, that he has already beaten GGG in their second fight and there is nothing left to prove. Same is with other fighters, nothing left to prove them. I dont know who he should fight now and who can give him a good and interesting fight.

I don't know who this Bivol is but I agree that he should give GGG the third match because that's what fans want and they are both going to make money, they should let this fight happen because the second fight is not really conclusive, if he thought that he is better than GGG then take the fight and knock him out, not fighting and giving unknown fighters a chance to make huge money.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 07, 2021, 12:26:50 AM

But I don't think he will retire, he is still at his prime, although I agree that he is cleaning up the division from Middleweight to Light Heavy. Maybe he can give GGG a trilogy for his biggest paycheck before thinking of retirement.

He must give GGG a third fight. Otherwise, who else he shouls fight. There no good fighter left, who he hasnt beaten already. Should he start fighting same fighters for the second time and beat everyone two times?

I remember his interview when he answered, that he has already beaten GGG in their second fight and there is nothing left to prove. Same is with other fighters, nothing left to prove them. I dont know who he should fight now and who can give him a good and interesting fight.

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Quote from: Botnake on August 06, 2021, 09:58:03 AM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on August 06, 2021, 09:45:25 AM

Canelo Alvarez is only in his prime now, it's not good to doubt him as he is very strong and he can defeat anyone who will be in front of him. These boxers have faced him and will face him and lack of experience so they can't beat a more experienced and stronger fighter.

Canelo should pick a fighter that has almost beat him, and I think in any of his fights, triple G is always inserted in the discussion.

That was a draw, maybe you call that almost but Canelo won in the rematch, so that fight is over.

Gennadiy Golovkin has not fought this year yet, but if he will be given a chance for a Trilogy, then I guess it will be interesting and we will see the fans from both sides supporting their favorite fighter.

I agree with you, but we have not seen a fight of Canelo Alvarez that we thought it's a 50/50 chance from both sides, the most competitive fight he has was between GGG and everyone would want to see that, at least one more chance before GGG will retire.

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Back to the topic, I guess this is just one of the fighters that he will dominate.

No doubt about that, Canelo has fought a different type of boxers, even an almost 7 footer but he never struggle.

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Undefeated means nothing they are putting him up against one of the best boxers of our time Cancelo. I think this will be a early finish and is a pay day for Cancelo. I would like to see Cancelo creating a legacy instead of fighting prospects that do not deserve to fight him.

Quote from: pilosopotasyo on August 07, 2021, 06:20:09 AM

Canelo will be an overwhelming favorite here, but Bivol will likely make money here.

Bivol will probably not earn that much because the contract will be in the favor of Cancelo. He will demand more than 50% of the contract money because he is giving a chance to Bivol. When Cancelo wins Bivol will be left with only a slither of the money he would get if he beat Cancelo. Boxing is rigged for the popular fighters to always earn the money while challengers do not get much.

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I have to check Youtube to see who is this guy, he has a good record but unfortunately, he only fought patsy and unknown fighters who are not in the league of Canelo, he is a strong puncher judging from his knock out ratio, but I don't think he can match Alvarez's power, skills and ring generalship, Canelo will be an overwhelming favorite here, but Bivol will likely make money here.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 07, 2021, 12:39:38 AM

According to Canelo's trainer, negotiations with Caleb Plant have restarted and the plan is to now fight him in November. There was not enough time for Bivol to do a training camp for a fight in September. I would still love to see that fight at 175 eventually. I think Plant gets destroyed by Canelo and then he will move up to light heavyweight and fight Bivol or Beterbiev.

Good, I wanted to see Canelo fight Caleb first and then see how it goes. For sure he will be the favourite against Caleb and I think it will be much easier fight than him. For me, Billy Joe Saunders is the most complete fighter, but look at what Canelo did to him, broke his eye socket.

So a Canelo win will setup him up to either Bivol or Beterbiev in the future for the light-heavyweight belt.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 07, 2021, 12:39:38 AM

According to Canelo's trainer, negotiations with Caleb Plant have restarted and the plan is to now fight him in November. There was not enough time for Bivol to do a training camp for a fight in September. I would still love to see that fight at 175 eventually. I think Plant gets destroyed by Canelo and then he will move up to light heavyweight and fight Bivol or Beterbiev.

Yeah, read it as well, so this fight is going to be cancelled, not enough time for training for both and not enough time to promote the fight so obviously, Canelo look for their first option which is Caleb fight.

September is fight month for Canelo though, but it any case a November bout with Caleb Plant is still good for us boxing fans. This is the last belt that Canelo needed to complete his 168 lbs championship belt.

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This Russian is a power puncher but so does the majority of fighters Canelo beats in the past, I don't see anything extraordinary on his style except he has a good straight but Canelo is very flexible and good at angles and combination, even if they fight in a catchweight Canelo will still beat, this is a very interesting fight considering Bivol is undefeated.

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According to Canelo's trainer, negotiations with Caleb Plant have restarted and the plan is to now fight him in November. There was not enough time for Bivol to do a training camp for a fight in September. I would still love to see that fight at 175 eventually. I think Plant gets destroyed by Canelo and then he will move up to light heavyweight and fight Bivol or Beterbiev.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 06, 2021, 10:57:51 AM

Another fight that wont give Canelo anything except money and a chance to get injured by an opponent from higher weight division.
If Canelo is up to money that much, he should challenge one of Paul brothers. That will be an easy fight and easy money.

He fought one time in the LHW division and beat a former champ, it does take him more rounds though, but in the end it was the same result, Canelo by KO. Of course, that's why he bolted out of his contract with Golden Boy because of the money dispute, so he is after making big money.

Quote from: TopTort777 on August 06, 2021, 10:57:51 AM

How many more year Canelo is planning to be in business? I think it is time for him to retire (not because of age, but because there are no more strong opponents left) or move to other division.

He still has Caleb Plant in the radar, it's supposed to be him and not Bivol, maybe there are some disagreements. But I don't think he will retire, he is still at his prime, although I agree that he is cleaning up the division from Middleweight to Light Heavy. Maybe he can give GGG a trilogy for his biggest paycheck before thinking of retirement.

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Quote from: Welsh on August 06, 2021, 11:30:06 AM

I'm a bit bored of Cancelo dominating the division. I'd prefer to see him going against bigger opponents than this, even if he has previously beat them. I had high hopes for Billy Joe, but we all know how that ended. Has it been determined whether Billy Joe will be returning to boxing after his injury? I don't really keep up with boxing as much as I used to since martial arts entered my life.

The last time I read about his injury, he says the operation went well, so hopefully he can go back and fight again. But I do hope that it is not a Margarito extend injury, which ended his career after a hard beating from Pacquiao. Kell Brook comeback from the same injury after the GGG fight. And so is Inoue after the first Donaire fight.

Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on August 06, 2021, 05:20:04 AM

I like the fight but I don't like they to be in a catchweight, Canelo has fought once in LHW already defeating Kovalev. Although they have admitted that he won't be fighting at LHW and obviously goes down to 168 as his home weight. However, Bivol is the champion in LHW, so for Canelo to be really called LHW champion he needs to go back up again to 175 lbs so that there will be no excuses or arguments if he beats Bivol.

Who invented those catchweights anyways? Pacquiao become a champion fighting in catchweight as well and so far that argument doesn't hold strong regarding this status as one the greatest and a legendary. So I think this will also be the case for Canelo, even at catchweight fight he still could be considered one of the best in this era.

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I'm a bit bored of Cancelo dominating the division. I'd prefer to see him going against bigger opponents than this, even if he has previously beat them. I had high hopes for Billy Joe, but we all know how that ended. Has it been determined whether Billy Joe will be returning to boxing after his injury? I don't really keep up with boxing as much as I used to since martial arts entered my life.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 06, 2021, 05:49:37 AM

Yeah, just throw everything at Canelo's way because he is still in his prime and on a destruction path whether MW or LHW. Bivol is good, legitimate LHW and power in both hands. But I do think that Alvarez is going to be too smart for him. Canelo has a good chin and has a good defense, so I don't know how Bivol is going to touch Alvarez. So regardless of catchweight, Canelo by either TKO or UD.

Even I think the same. Canelo might have less weight than Bivol but he still has better defense than Bivol according to me.
Bivol is a good player in himseld but I think Canelo is smarter and can execute his punches better than Bivol.
It will be a good fight to watch as the competition is tough. We can't really predict so easily who is gonna win the match.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on August 06, 2021, 10:57:51 AM

How many more year Canelo is planning to be in business? I think it is time for him to retire (not because of age, but because there are no more strong opponents left) or move to other division.

I don't think he should, he is on top of his game and he is just starting out you are the only one who thinks he should, I still love to see Canelo Alvarez fight, there's a lot of science on how he fought, there's still a lot of money to be made and at the same time making himself great and setting more records.

Ever since his loss with Mayweather, Canelo has been dominating the middleweight class on his own. He improved so much and learned from that fight alone which makes him a very dangerous opponent to anything.

To be honest, I do think that Canelo is still in his prime. His destructive raw power and skill can outclass any opponent on his weight division which puts him at the top middleweight fighters of all time.

Compared to the fight of Pacquiao, I am more confident seeing Canelo win against this match; thus, I'll be betting on this fight 100%.

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