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Topic: [Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 - page 11. (Read 3129 times)

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We can not say that after canelo beating the triple G in the last fight he can beat again in this fight.  Yes without a doubt if he can win in this fight he will be recognized as tougher boxer in all time but we can not say that in earlier stage of the fight. Causes we all know how GGG will fight even if in his age get older but he can fight and win against his opponent, and after all happening in the last fight between him and canelo for sure he will adjust and make some move to win the fight.

GGG seems in shape but if we saw his last fight against Murata, he seems struggling in the early rounds although fortunately, he get back on his feet and did a 10th round TKO. That incident where he was struggling against an aging Murata shouldn't happen against Canelo as currently, Canelo is in his prime and a much better fighter compare to Murata.

The speculation if GGG can still match Canelo will just be known on the night of the fight.

But before that, Canelo needs to pass Bivol first before taking the trilogy with GGG.
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^ I think it's all about the money, and Canelo might think that he will beat GGG because he is old already. I'm not saying that he waited for GGG to get old, but with no potential fighters except LHW, but it won't give him the money that he could get from fighting an old GGG in a trilogy? Why not? And after this fight and he declare as a winner then he can tell everyone that he is the best fighter in the world right now and stop the discussion about their infamous fights.

Well, if it's not about the money then what is it about? I would not believe if Canelo would say that he wants to end that discussion once and for all because if he really thinks that way then he should've fought GGG long time ago. Anyways I agree that defeating GGG again on their trilogy will make him the best fighter in the world in todays modern age and no one can doubt that.
I guess that will also clear everything the issue, as he will get to prove that he's tougher and quicker than GGG when it comes to boxing. But as to when the trilogy will happen, for now its still uncertain. Hopefully, after this fight with Bivol, if he wins this game, probably the trilogy will be given clear date as it will be another day to remember.
We can not say that after canelo beating the triple G in the last fight he can beat again in this fight.  Yes without a doubt if he can win in this fight he will be recognized as tougher boxer in all time but we can not say that in earlier stage of the fight. Causes we all know how GGG will fight even if in his age get older but he can fight and win against his opponent, and after all happening in the last fight between him and canelo for sure he will adjust and make some move to win the fight.
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^ I think it's all about the money, and Canelo might think that he will beat GGG because he is old already. I'm not saying that he waited for GGG to get old, but with no potential fighters except LHW, but it won't give him the money that he could get from fighting an old GGG in a trilogy? Why not? And after this fight and he declare as a winner then he can tell everyone that he is the best fighter in the world right now and stop the discussion about their infamous fights.

Well, if it's not about the money then what is it about? I would not believe if Canelo would say that he wants to end that discussion once and for all because if he really thinks that way then he should've fought GGG long time ago. Anyways I agree that defeating GGG again on their trilogy will make him the best fighter in the world in todays modern age and no one can doubt that.
I guess that will also clear everything the issue, as he will get to prove that he's tougher and quicker than GGG when it comes to boxing. But as to when the trilogy will happen, for now its still uncertain. Hopefully, after this fight with Bivol, if he wins this game, probably the trilogy will be given clear date as it will be another day to remember.
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The fight is very controversial and for many years, Canelo has been haunted by it. Boxing writers continue to ask him why he didn't want to give GGG a third fight. And maybe he wanted to show who the real winner is but facing him in the trilogy. But we can talk about it later once he settled and win against his tougher opponent in Bivol next month.

Yes, Canelo doesn't want that trilogy as he already claimed he's the winner in 1st and 2nd fight. Nothing to prove anymore. But is that really a reason or Canelo just accepts the fact that GGG is the toughest opponent he fought in his prime?

I don't know what thing happened that makes Canelo change his mind, maybe pressure or just imagining how much the expected revenue that the trilogy will make if he accepts it and finally seal their chapter.

But yes, we can talk this more if he beats Bivol. If he will lose here, no trilogy will happen and GGG will move on to other opponents.
The last fight with Canelo and GGG has ended in a controversial split draw and until now, Canelo is still bothered by it because its more likely the fight ended not fairly when based on the comments made by GGG fans. Even myself, i am looking forward to witness their rematch once granted, but as for now let's focus first on his fight with Bivol, who happens to be the light-heavyweight world champion that made me think Canelo will test again his skills in boxing if he can truly beat the undefeated Bivol.
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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.


That is surely a wild speculation right there but you have a point, I also asked that to myself after I've read your quote.

Although I'm sure that Canelo wouldn't let an upset happen to him as it could stain and really add a toll on his career after being defeated by a man who will hangs up his gloves in maybe next few years but yes what if, right? My honest answer is that there could be a 4th fight as their score is tied and definitely another fight needs to happen to settle things between the two of them but I'm quite certain that a 4th fight is a settlement fight unless it would again result into a draw.

Yes that is possible as well, we have seen Pacquiao and Marquez fought many times because their fight is really close.

And so if this fight goes that way again, I mean with no clear winner, maybe we can see a 4th fight or until there is clear winner for us. The only barrier is the age of GGG because we will be over 40 years old if there will be 4th fight.

Indeed it is possible but the chances that they will be having another fight after the trilogy is somehow slim because in reality this fight will not be going for a draw, at least both parties are going to do their best so that a winner will be declared and not a draw especially Canelo who is so vocal that he already won so I guess he will make sure that this will be the last.
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I usually like underdogs. So I am rooting for Bivol to score an upset. He's got the skills and size to utilize over Canelo. But I am not betting here. It is very hard to beat Canelo by decision even if he is losing in the actual fight. Only Floyd beat Canelo and the scorecards were even close despite the former clearly out boxing and out smarting the then young kid from Mexico.

I hope Bivol's training camp is doing well. I hope Bivol is 100% come fight night. I hope the Russian will be treated fairly. I said this because just nearly 2 weeks ago, Russian Petr Yan, an ex UFC champion had issues leading to his title fight. The fight was close and many (including me) thought he won that fight but he lost. Boxing (and mma) is an individual sport and should not be included in world sanctions against Russia IMO.

I guess the issue of these Russian fighters isn't that bad anymore unlike the few weeks when the invasion had started, I also do hope Bivol won't experience such thing to discourage him just like Petr Yan have experienced.

Being an underdog doesn't really mean that he's no chance to defeat the favorite at all, an upset is always available in the fight no matter how slim that chance is. Bivol is much more confident in this division than Canelo as he is the defending champion but knowing Canelo, he will always find a way to defeat his opponents.
Agree with what you said. The frying pan for news related to Russia is not as hard as it was before although there are still a lot at this time because Russia hasn't stopped it yet but now there are some rules that are starting to loosen.

Bivol still have a chance and don't really care about being underdogs or anything but the chances are still open now. what to do now he must focus and not be distracted by anything
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I usually like underdogs. So I am rooting for Bivol to score an upset. He's got the skills and size to utilize over Canelo. But I am not betting here. It is very hard to beat Canelo by decision even if he is losing in the actual fight. Only Floyd beat Canelo and the scorecards were even close despite the former clearly out boxing and out smarting the then young kid from Mexico.

I hope Bivol's training camp is doing well. I hope Bivol is 100% come fight night. I hope the Russian will be treated fairly. I said this because just nearly 2 weeks ago, Russian Petr Yan, an ex UFC champion had issues leading to his title fight. The fight was close and many (including me) thought he won that fight but he lost. Boxing (and mma) is an individual sport and should not be included in world sanctions against Russia IMO.

I guess the issue of these Russian fighters isn't that bad anymore unlike the few weeks when the invasion had started, I also do hope Bivol won't experience such thing to discourage him just like Petr Yan have experienced.

Being an underdog doesn't really mean that he's no chance to defeat the favorite at all, an upset is always available in the fight no matter how slim that chance is. Bivol is much more confident in this division than Canelo as he is the defending champion but knowing Canelo, he will always find a way to defeat his opponents.
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I usually like underdogs. So I am rooting for Bivol to score an upset. He's got the skills and size to utilize over Canelo. But I am not betting here. It is very hard to beat Canelo by decision even if he is losing in the actual fight. Only Floyd beat Canelo and the scorecards were even close despite the former clearly out boxing and out smarting the then young kid from Mexico.

I hope Bivol's training camp is doing well. I hope Bivol is 100% come fight night. I hope the Russian will be treated fairly. I said this because just nearly 2 weeks ago, Russian Petr Yan, an ex UFC champion had issues leading to his title fight. The fight was close and many (including me) thought he won that fight but he lost. Boxing (and mma) is an individual sport and should not be included in world sanctions against Russia IMO.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.

Yes, this has been discussed over and over again and the primary concern on the part of GGG is his age. GGG is about to face the end of his career while Canelo is still very much at his peak. And if we take a careful look at both boxers' last performances, no doubt Canelo is going to win. Although it is still clear that GGG still has a powerful punch, it seems that he is now becoming stiff and therefore an easier target. And considering Canelo's accuracy and power, it is troubling if GGG will constantly absorb Canelo's punches if his footwork and head movement are gone.

I admit that the GGG vs Canelo trilogy was so overly discussed since the news surfaced in the internet that this time it will be materialized, it's so famous that even if both of them have its own current opponent still people are talking about their opinions and speculations about their trilogy afterwards after their respective bouts.

In the same note, it's so hard to deny Canelo's power over GGG and it is also real hard to suspect an upset to this fight. Their trilogy may be interesting to see but we somehow know in ourselves the outcome of it.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.

Maybe that was the factor why GGG started slow and tries to catch up his own movement in the ring for him to be more confident towards Murata because he hasn't fought anyone for almost 2 years or 16 months to be exact, but that's just a maybe because he ain't inactive in all those months because he is still preparing and training for a while against Murata. Although, I admit I'm still amazed how GGG works his magic in the ring but if it's against Canelo who is yes currently at the peak of his prime then I don't know about that anymore if GGG could really handle Canelo.
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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.


That is surely a wild speculation right there but you have a point, I also asked that to myself after I've read your quote.

Although I'm sure that Canelo wouldn't let an upset happen to him as it could stain and really add a toll on his career after being defeated by a man who will hangs up his gloves in maybe next few years but yes what if, right? My honest answer is that there could be a 4th fight as their score is tied and definitely another fight needs to happen to settle things between the two of them but I'm quite certain that a 4th fight is a settlement fight unless it would again result into a draw.

Yes that is possible as well, we have seen Pacquiao and Marquez fought many times because their fight is really close.

And so if this fight goes that way again, I mean with no clear winner, maybe we can see a 4th fight or until there is clear winner for us. The only barrier is the age of GGG because we will be over 40 years old if there will be 4th fight.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.

Yes, this has been discussed over and over again and the primary concern on the part of GGG is his age. GGG is about to face the end of his career while Canelo is still very much at his peak. And if we take a careful look at both boxers' last performances, no doubt Canelo is going to win. Although it is still clear that GGG still has a powerful punch, it seems that he is now becoming stiff and therefore an easier target. And considering Canelo's accuracy and power, it is troubling if GGG will constantly absorb Canelo's punches if his footwork and head movement are gone.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.

Maybe it was the ring rust that affects GGG in that fight and he needed a few round to settle down and go to his rhythm. However, we have discussed this so far, the age of GGG, and this could be the most important factor in this fight. If he shows like a real 40 year old, then he get loss this fight easily, maybe by a KO or TKO. But assuming he can still fight, it will be a big task for him as Canelo is still on his prime years.
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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.


That is surely a wild speculation right there but you have a point, I also asked that to myself after I've read your quote.

Although I'm sure that Canelo wouldn't let an upset happen to him as it could stain and really add a toll on his career after being defeated by a man who will hangs up his gloves in maybe next few years but yes what if, right? My honest answer is that there could be a 4th fight as their score is tied and definitely another fight needs to happen to settle things between the two of them but I'm quite certain that a 4th fight is a settlement fight unless it would again result into a draw.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

Canelo have only won once in their 2 fights and that's the 2nd fight after their draw, if Canelo have indeed won twice then I seriously think there's no reason anymore to have a trilogy as Canelo have already proved his point to GGG. Also there is really no exact clear reason about Canelo's avoidance, what we just know is what he said but it doesn't really make some sense.
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Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

SO in case upset takes place and GGG happens to win this trilogy another fight for both to settle everything? Just thinking, though, if promoters will take these opportunities to suck more money from the fans and the gamblers. With how things are happening now,
the chance of upsetting Canelo is still possible even GGG is no longer in his prime.

Let see if the negotiations are already been cooked and after this upcoming fight against Bivol if rumors will be there for
this trilogy to take place.
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Bivol should perform his best during his fight against Canelo especially the game will take place on his territory not just to defend to his belt or his title but to give honour to their countrymen. But like what we always have speculated we knew that Canelo will outperform at this game and we will expect that this man will going to perform his best like what he always do. But let's wait and see when the game starts and our speculations will be concluded.

Isn't it obvious that once a boxer is scheduled for a big event, they should expect to perform their best?

Bivol should already know the drill and there should be no questions about what we can expect for him on the day of the fight. As a champion who has well-defended his title for years, he is always bound to do his best in any fight regardless of how strong or famous the opponent is.

Canelo Alvarez might be the biggest challenge he has to face in his boxing career and I'm sure he won't just allow being dominated mostly in their fight.

It should be and a boxer will trained hard and make an observation through watching past fight of their opponent in order to have a chance of winning I agree with you that if someone professional boxer schedule u big event or a big fight on his career he must put all his best to play against his opponent and If it will be happening a crowd well see a good and interesting fight

With all the speculation that has been generated just for Canelo's side it's unbelievable because everyone is assuming that Canelo must win for his matchup possibly with GGG, which is highly anticipated, but very few people are taking into account the power that Canelo has. Russian, Bivol is with everything, he has all the chances of making history, and as they have said before, what better wasn't a victory against a great like Canelo and then what would the critics and fans say? Would they be looking for the other fight again with the same intensity? this is what i mean.



On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

it may not be the greatest, but definitely it will fetch huge figures. now, we will wait for purse split here but we need to see canelo-bivol fight. if canelo wins, then i believe the purse split may be so close. even the odds here will be so tight. but would want to see first the performance of canelo over bivol. that's when we will somehow see what he's got going up in division.

Regarding all this, my hopes are high especially for Bivol, because I believe that this Russian can bring a lot to boxing, in addition there are many precedents, he is a Russian athlete who will fight against all odds, this is something that for most People don't want to see the mere fact that there is the conflict in Russia and Ukraine, I think that this rivalry will make this fight much more interesting.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

Yes, both of their fights were very close that all of them ended up controversial. Both parties believed that their fighters won. That is why the demand for a trilogy was very strong even after the second fight was decided. But it was just unfortunate that it didn't take place right after the second fight. Now it could happen but it's not anymore as anticipated as it used to be. I saw GGG fight against Murata. He is still strong but he looked a bit too stiff.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.

it may not be the greatest, but definitely it will fetch huge figures. now, we will wait for purse split here but we need to see canelo-bivol fight. if canelo wins, then i believe the purse split may be so close. even the odds here will be so tight. but would want to see first the performance of canelo over bivol. that's when we will somehow see what he's got going up in division.
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On the other side, I cannot blame Canelo for avoiding GGG that time as it could stain his record. I mean he cannot afford to lose again from that defeat he suffered from Mayweather, he's building his career to have some legacy in the industry which he did and now that he's already at the peak of his prime, he can now destroy whoever he wanted to fight even if it's GGG.

This one is true I mean we can't really tell the exact reason why Canelo is avoiding to have a trilogy against GGG but he already prove his skills, strength and power against GGG by winning for two times. Though, there are some speculations that Canelo's victory during their fight have some sort of questionable but then I think Canelo now is more focus and looking forward to face new fighters and opponents. Though, I wouldn't disagree that Canelo vs. GGG trilogy will be a good fight to watch for if happen again.

No Mate, Canelo only wins once. The first one is a draw. That's the very reason why from the longest time GGG wanted to have a rematch
but Canelo avoiding that one, thought there's a smoke surrounding the boxing community about the possibilities of having a trilogy, for now it would be the fight against Bivol to watch out before we will deal for that trilogy against GGG.

All GGG fans are still waiting for Canelo to accept the fight before the man will completely hang his gloves.

We don't know yet if there's some inside negotiation that already happening between the camps, but it's good if they will push this one.
Canelo's camp already confirmed the trilogy, so there could be negotiations already even prior to making it public.

Yeah, it was a draw, but there are fans seeing it as a GGG win in the first fight. And then Canelo slightly edging GGG in the second. But still the fight is very close that we need to see a 3rd fight and finally Canelo is willing because of the money and revenues and then become the greatest of this generation.
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