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Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

Exactly, one step at a time, if Canelo could win here, he can get some fights with the other champions on the same division. This guy is really up to a challenge, I mean, he wouldn't be in his position now if he does not keep pushing himself to his limit and I believe he has not achieve his limit yet since he is fighter in a heavier division and fore sure a more challenging division than his past divisions.

I'm sure he will win this fight, the odds difference is very convincing that even is Makabu is a natural heavy fighter but Canelo is more talented as a boxer. The opening odds pretty much tells everything.

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Boxing odds: Canelo Alvarez -700 favorite / Ilunga Makabu +500 underdog.
Canelo aims to become a five-weight world champion with a win over Makabu.
Boxing fans are more familiar with Ilunga Makabu losing by KO to Tony Bellew in 2016.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 16, 2021, 12:17:59 AM

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Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

Exactly, one step at a time, if Canelo could win here, he can get some fights with the other champions on the same division. This guy is really up to a challenge, I mean, he wouldn't be in his position now if he does not keep pushing himself to his limit and I believe he has not achieve his limit yet since he is fighter in a heavier division and fore sure a more challenging division than his past divisions.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on December 15, 2021, 10:04:48 PM

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

Based on the body built of Canelo it wouldn't be hard for him to attain the 175 pounds requirement for the Cruiserweight division and yeah for sure he and or his team wouldn't allow jumping from one division to another if they know that Canelo isn't capable of. Maybe 190 pounds would be a bit challenging for him on how to attain it but somehow I think we shouldn't have to focus on it since Canelo has already a scheduled upcoming fight against Makabu.

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I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

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Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that.

Nope, not the first time, he fights in 168 lbs before and then jump to 175 lbs (LHW) and then challenge Kovalev gets the belt and then goes down to 168 lbs again and said that he won't go back to LHW and then clean up the Super MW division and then jumps to CW with a potential Makabu fight.

So he is familiar with jumping on the weight class, but this time though it is a big weight disparity at it will be in the 190 lbs.

Yes, Canelo has been jumping from one weight division to another. And even when he jumped to 175 pounds he was still able to handle himself well and even scored a great knockout victory against Kovalev. So I don't think Canelo has made this decision without taking into consideration how much weight he has to gain to be able to face Makabu. If he makes it to the scale, I think he can also handle Makabu well and could even bring him to the canvas as well. But 175 to 190 has 15 pounds in the middle. That's a big amount of weight Canelo has to gain.

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I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

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Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that.

Nope, not the first time, he fights in 168 lbs before and then jump to 175 lbs (LHW) and then challenge Kovalev gets the belt and then goes down to 168 lbs again and said that he won't go back to LHW and then clean up the Super MW division and then jumps to CW with a potential Makabu fight.

So he is familiar with jumping on the weight class, but this time though it is a big weight disparity at it will be in the 190 lbs.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 15, 2021, 05:29:22 PM

The odds are nowhere near exact, we must remember that even if the casinos think that Makabu is the favorite if the fans begin to bet overwhelmingly in favor of Canelo then they need to improve the odds for Canelo to the point he becomes the favorite, this is a known issue when it comes to sports bets, as popular figures or teams are preferred by casual bettors, and casinos need to take this into account when they release their odds.

Gambling sites are just referring to the general odds provided by all bookies.

There will be no reason at all for them to justify their odds as long as it was close to the public odds released globally. I don't remember any issues regarding Favorites that were being questioned or Underdog on the other way around.

If I missed some issues related to that, can you provide me with an example? For me to have a good read that such cases happened mostly.

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There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.

Per https://box.live/world-rankings/cruiserweight/. Makabu is actually number 2 in ranking, so he is really a good fighter in his division, but look at the betting odds, he is an underdog against Canelo, so I think there are not many quality boxers in cruiserweight division.

The odds are nowhere near exact, we must remember that even if the casinos think that Makabu is the favorite if the fans begin to bet overwhelmingly in favor of Canelo then they need to improve the odds for Canelo to the point he becomes the favorite, this is a known issue when it comes to sports bets, as popular figures or teams are preferred by casual bettors, and casinos need to take this into account when they release their odds.

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I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 13, 2021, 09:00:26 AM

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that Canelo attempted to fight in a heavier division, so I would not really think that Canelo is better than Makabu as it's hard to compare both fighters who are not fighting in the same division, maybe the basis was only the popularity why you said that.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 13, 2021, 08:56:40 AM

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 13, 2021, 09:00:26 AM

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

I also consider that Canelo is well above MaKabu, Makabu is a great boxer, his technique is very good and in fact his training is not easy at all, I have seen some videos of him and they really are very promising, but when we compare him with Canelo , I think Canelo is still above the average of many boxers, because he is accustomed to his victories and Makabu is starting in a higher category than him and to welcome him, Canelo would say that Canelo is overqualified for him, without detracting from the effort of Makabu.

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Quote from: molsewid on December 13, 2021, 08:56:40 AM

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career.

Since Canelo is moving up, he becomes an interest to anyone. Defeating Makabu is the first step if he is fit on a much above weight class. I don't consider Makabu as an easy opponent as he is used to fighting already on that catchweight.

Quote from: btc_angela on December 13, 2021, 09:00:26 AM

Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

I also thought of this but if Canelo will win the fight, he will think he can handle that weight class and will be more open to fighting much above boxers. If he loses, he will ask for a rematch before considering going back to his preferred weight class.

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Quote from: btc_angela on December 13, 2021, 09:00:26 AM

But Arum says that most likely Canelo will go down to CW and face Beterbiev somewhere in May or in September next year. Arum handles Beterbiev by the way, so it's obvious that he is shilling for his boy. But it make sense because CW is too much for Canelo I reckon. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

Honestly, we can't consider it as shilling as Artur Beterbiev is really a big thing. He can be a tough opponent for Canelo before moving up facing Ilunga Makabu. A real pound-for-pound fighter won't miss a chance to fight someone like Beterbiev.

Since it's just about several months to go, no official preparations nor announcements have been made on. We can surely expect some progress of it around January to February.

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Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind.

If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this
kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history.

Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target.

Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event Wink

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. I'm sure that this fight of Canelo vs. Makabu will be one of the anticipated fight by next year and we will see what kind of performance does Canelo would going to show us as he moves up to the high level of CW.

That's wrong, Canelo is not undefeated as he has one loss and that is against Mayweather last 2013-09-14. you can check his record , he is now 57-1. About the fight, of course it's an anticipated fight as it's Canelo's first fight in Cruiserweight division.

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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.

We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority.

As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know.

That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter.

But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him.

He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him.

That's exactly what I'm also thinking, cruiserweight is his maximum reach and limit because if he will still decide to go heavyweight, it's already too much for him considering his weight and diet needed. There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.

But Arum says that most likely Canelo will go down to CW and face Beterbiev somewhere in May or in September next year. Arum handles Beterbiev by the way, so it's obvious that he is shilling for his boy. But it make sense because CW is too much for Canelo I reckon. Maybe he just wanted to test the waters and if he didn't like it or if he goes to win a belt then he can go down to LW and chase more against a undefeated champion in Beterbiev.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on December 13, 2021, 02:31:01 AM

Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind.

If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this
kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history.

Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target.

Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event Wink

I know everyone is keeping an eye on Canelo and believing that he could make this upcoming fight of him against Makabu favor on him again which it is undeniable that Canelo is a great fighter with no record of loss but he needed to accomplish this planned game of him before he entertain another milestone on his career. I'm sure that this fight of Canelo vs. Makabu will be one of the anticipated fight by next year and we will see what kind of performance does Canelo would going to show us as he moves up to the high level of CW.

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I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.

Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.

I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here.

Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind.

If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this
kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history.

Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target.

Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event Wink

This fight will gauge his journey in the future, if he easily dominates Makabu, then there's a reason to believe that he could dominate this division. He got some skills, he is fast and precise, so all the qualities of a successful boxer is on him, if others were able to succeed when going up, for sure nothing is impossible with Canelo too.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 13, 2021, 06:16:48 AM

There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.

Per https://box.live/world-rankings/cruiserweight/. Makabu is actually number 2 in ranking, so he is really a good fighter in his division, but look at the betting odds, he is an underdog against Canelo, so I think there are not many quality boxers in cruiserweight division.

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If Canelo is successful in Cruiserweight then he might stay there for a while, but yeah, him moving to Heavies? not gonna happen.

We aren't sure about that. Once a boxer is undisputed in every weight class, he is qualified for the next level. Their body is now switching to adopt a much heavy challenge as the training becomes more intense too. Canelo can move up a bit higher than Light Heavyweight if that's the goal but not a priority.

As of now, Canelo wants to destroy every fighter on the way regardless of their status. If where he will end up, we don't know.

That's exactly what I'm thinking also, Canelo is not planning to stop in cruiserweight division if ever he defeats Makabu, no that's not in his plan. Can't you see that he's accepting any rematch from any of his former opponents that he defeated? He's planning to move any division he wants with a goal to defeat any undisputed fighter.

But it will be dangerous for him bouncing in weight though, so I guess he would either have to stick to this new division or go to LHW with Beterviev or Bivol waiting for him it Cruiserweight will be too much for him.

He give GGG a rematch though, but we wanted a 3rd fight but Canelo doesn't want it and decided to move to 168 lbs. And he can't move to Heavyweight either, I think that's out of his options for now. So either 175 lbs or cruiserweight for him.

That's exactly what I'm also thinking, cruiserweight is his maximum reach and limit because if he will still decide to go heavyweight, it's already too much for him considering his weight and diet needed. There are a lot more stronger boxers than him that is natural to their weights even in crusierweight like Makabu. So that leaves him only 2 options, it's either CW or LHW, no more higher or lower than that division.

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I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.

Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.

I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here.

Good comparison and we really can't conclude if what inside Canelo's mind.

If he has this kind of desire, he needed to be accomplish one step at the time, not an easy task but if he is keen fulfilling this
kind of dream the success will put his name to this sport's history.

Future is not ours and we should enjoy this upcoming fight first then assume on his next target.

Whatever plan he's camp has in mind will be reveal after this fight, the assessment mostly happened after the event Wink

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 09, 2021, 05:49:37 AM

I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.

Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.

I can't imagine Canelo would go higher than CW, he will be facing giants in that division, unless he has the power like Mike Tyson who could make a taller guy fall with his powerful punches. I checked Canelo's height, he is 1.75 m while Tyson is 1.78 m, so not much of a difference, he can still be in HW but he has to finish his business first in CW by dominating here.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 09, 2021, 05:49:37 AM

I think Canelo moving to HW is far stretch for now, I mean just imagine Fury vs Canelo? or even Wilder vs Canelo for all the money? The weight and the height difference will be too much.

Canelo is just testing the waters in the CW division and if he see fit here, then maybe he will stay or go down to LHW but there are two champions in the weight division that has big power as well and maybe that's the reason why he skip LHW and go directly to CW because it's "easy" fight for him and possible to get all the belts after just a couple of fights.

Of course, Canelo is not ready for the HW division right now and he has stated he has no plans to move to it, however everything is going to depend on how much success he has on the CW division, taking into account how popular he is it should be obvious this is a very calculated move for him so I doubt he will have too much problem adjusting to the division, but if he can deal with the increase on punching power from his opponents and dominate the division, then the only option left will be the HW, still it will take a few fights to know if he can make the transition to the CW successfully.

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