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Well.. that is also true. Golovkin is now 40 years old. Canelo should have agreed to the trilogy fight in 2019 or 2020. He delayed the fight without any real reason apart from the fear of losing. But even now, it is not going to be easy for Canelo. All that said, the chance of Golovkin winning by KO is next to zero. It is going to be either KO win for Canelo, or a win for either of the sides based on majority decision. And when it comes to latter, Canelo will always have an advantage since the match is taking place in the United States.

Why fighting in United States gives Canelo an advantage over Golovkin? You think because Canelo lives there currently and GGG lives in Kazakhstan? Long time ago GGG has moved to Germany, and I had faced numerous articles claiming he lives both in Stuttgart Germany and Santa Monica US. GGG has same huge army of fans all around the world, and I am sure the venue they will fight, will be crowded by his people, similar to Canelo fans. You would be amazed how GGG is popular in Kazakhstan and how people support him. He wont feel like a visitor during this fight, definitely.

If you have watched the first two fights, then you should know.  Grin

I was closely following the live scorecards from sports channels and all of them had GGG ahead by a large margin before the official results were announced. Even CNN Sports had Golovkin ahead. But when the final results announced, it ended as a draw. Dave Moretti (whom I consider one of the best judges ever) scored the match 115-113 for Golovkin, while Don Trella had a scorecard of 114-114. Then shockingly Adalaide Byrd had a scorecard of 118-110 in favor of Canelo. I was astounded by the scorecard from Byrd. She was definitely not watching the same match that others were watching.

Ohhh... You have meant judges...I though you were talking about "at home even walls help" Cheesy Like it always easier to perform at home, because the fans, the crowd is always for your (however that did not work in a fight against Bivol). Yeap, judging was a disaster. Byrd perhaps was in love for Canelo and scored him as a dominant fighter that evening Cheesy Also To all of the boxing critics, boxing fans, the NSAC and most of all GGG, I am truly sorry for misjudging the fight and after I was able to. Glad she realizes she had screw up. Since that, she hasnt judged big fights anymore.
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We love this two fighters, but after the second fight, it seems that Canelo head and ego grow big as he doesn't want to give GGG his trilogy. But finally, it was set already so again, emotions are going to run high between the two fighters as GGG said that he won both fights and then chase Canelo for many years.

Who will resist expected big money in return just to accept the call of everybody to do a trilogy with GGG? Smiley

Before the fight with Bivol, it was reported that Canelo reached an agreement to fight Bivol plus two more fights in 2022 in exchange for $160 million.

That was just for 1-year fighting and that was an insane amount already that Canelo will surely bag this year, I think regardless of the result. We just don't how much specifically he will earn with the trilogy. That money figure that Canelo expectedly to receive this year alone, contributes to his status as one of having the highest net worth in sports.

That amount is already huge, more than enough for his retirement.
But he has a long way to go to his retirement phase.
Canelo is favored on this match, so the pressure is real.
He should show us a different Canelo here and have a very worthwhile match.

Yes, that amount is already huge enough to cover his expenses for his along with his beloved family but that money is still not enough and he will still get more because we know that Canelo can still dance will in the ring and he is still at the peak of his prime, that said, $160 Million is just a small amount compared to what he could bag in the coming years.

I'm just curious though, @goinmerry said, that said figure was paid to him in-exchange to fight Bivol and other 2 fights. Who's the 3rd boxer? As we all know, Bivol and GGG were the ones who established the fight this year, so there could be a 3rd fight for Canelo this year after September? I'm curious about that.
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Well.. that is also true. Golovkin is now 40 years old. Canelo should have agreed to the trilogy fight in 2019 or 2020. He delayed the fight without any real reason apart from the fear of losing. But even now, it is not going to be easy for Canelo. All that said, the chance of Golovkin winning by KO is next to zero. It is going to be either KO win for Canelo, or a win for either of the sides based on majority decision. And when it comes to latter, Canelo will always have an advantage since the match is taking place in the United States.

Why fighting in United States gives Canelo an advantage over Golovkin? You think because Canelo lives there currently and GGG lives in Kazakhstan? Long time ago GGG has moved to Germany, and I had faced numerous articles claiming he lives both in Stuttgart Germany and Santa Monica US. GGG has same huge army of fans all around the world, and I am sure the venue they will fight, will be crowded by his people, similar to Canelo fans. You would be amazed how GGG is popular in Kazakhstan and how people support him. He wont feel like a visitor during this fight, definitely.

If you have watched the first two fights, then you should know.  Grin

I was closely following the live scorecards from sports channels and all of them had GGG ahead by a large margin before the official results were announced. Even CNN Sports had Golovkin ahead. But when the final results announced, it ended as a draw. Dave Moretti (whom I consider one of the best judges ever) scored the match 115-113 for Golovkin, while Don Trella had a scorecard of 114-114. Then shockingly Adalaide Byrd had a scorecard of 118-110 in favor of Canelo. I was astounded by the scorecard from Byrd. She was definitely not watching the same match that others were watching.
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i am also not thinking that after fighting with ggg, his next aim is a rematch with bivol. i believe that was not on the table before. but we knew that he had a contract to fight GGG even before his bivol's fight. because their trilogy is like finishing the unfinished business.
as GGG is the underdog with this upcoming fight, it will be a good motivation for him to beat Canelo. also, he had seen the bivol's fight so he has idea on where to poke Canelo to beat him. the odds are good if some of you here are going for GGG.

As I previously posted, it was reported Canelo reached an agreement to fight Bivol plus two more fights in 2022 in exchange for $160 million.

The fight against Bivol was already done and next on the line is GGG. I'm not sure who's the 3rd one and I doubt they can insert that fight until the end of the year. Maybe the best logical guess is after GGG, the third fight on Canelo's schedule on that $160M agreement will be on 1Q of 2023.

After finishing that whole year's agreement, the rematch will Bivol will now take place although I doubt if Bivol will still accept the challenge of Canelo.

It was Eddie Hearn advised as well that Canelo should skipped with the Bivol rematch and go with a trilogy with GGG. Maybe they think that Canelo's chances is higher since GGG is old enough and that Canelo will regain back his glory if he defeated his archfoe. And then go for Bivol rematch next year in May in Bivol is willing to give him the rematch. And it boils down to the offer, if they gave offer more than the first fight, maybe he is willing to give Canelo a rematch.

Not sure how many fights did Canelo sign with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, maybe 3-4 fights I reckon. So maybe it was a good advised to fight GGG first, the money is there and Canelo could have made more money than having a rematch fight with Bivol and the chance for him to lose back to back is high. So good call for them. It's easy to book Canelo's fight next year so I agree that it might take place 1Q of 2023 for the Bivol fight.

I'm not even sure if Canelo is really interested to have a rematch against Bivol. I think he'd be more interested to face much smaller opponents with equal or even bigger paychecks next time. In their fight, even if it was so close it almost ended in a draw in the official scorecards of the judges, it was very clear that Canelo was having a really hard time hitting, much more hurting, Bivol. He simply couldn't handle Bivol.
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i am also not thinking that after fighting with ggg, his next aim is a rematch with bivol. i believe that was not on the table before. but we knew that he had a contract to fight GGG even before his bivol's fight. because their trilogy is like finishing the unfinished business.
as GGG is the underdog with this upcoming fight, it will be a good motivation for him to beat Canelo. also, he had seen the bivol's fight so he has idea on where to poke Canelo to beat him. the odds are good if some of you here are going for GGG.

As I previously posted, it was reported Canelo reached an agreement to fight Bivol plus two more fights in 2022 in exchange for $160 million.

The fight against Bivol was already done and next on the line is GGG. I'm not sure who's the 3rd one and I doubt they can insert that fight until the end of the year. Maybe the best logical guess is after GGG, the third fight on Canelo's schedule on that $160M agreement will be on 1Q of 2023.

After finishing that whole year's agreement, the rematch will Bivol will now take place although I doubt if Bivol will still accept the challenge of Canelo.

It was Eddie Hearn advised as well that Canelo should skipped with the Bivol rematch and go with a trilogy with GGG. Maybe they think that Canelo's chances is higher since GGG is old enough and that Canelo will regain back his glory if he defeated his archfoe. And then go for Bivol rematch next year in May in Bivol is willing to give him the rematch. And it boils down to the offer, if they gave offer more than the first fight, maybe he is willing to give Canelo a rematch.

Not sure how many fights did Canelo sign with Matchroom and Eddie Hearn, maybe 3-4 fights I reckon. So maybe it was a good advised to fight GGG first, the money is there and Canelo could have made more money than having a rematch fight with Bivol and the chance for him to lose back to back is high. So good call for them. It's easy to book Canelo's fight next year so I agree that it might take place 1Q of 2023 for the Bivol fight.
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i am also not thinking that after fighting with ggg, his next aim is a rematch with bivol. i believe that was not on the table before. but we knew that he had a contract to fight GGG even before his bivol's fight. because their trilogy is like finishing the unfinished business.
as GGG is the underdog with this upcoming fight, it will be a good motivation for him to beat Canelo. also, he had seen the bivol's fight so he has idea on where to poke Canelo to beat him. the odds are good if some of you here are going for GGG.

As I previously posted, it was reported Canelo reached an agreement to fight Bivol plus two more fights in 2022 in exchange for $160 million.

The fight against Bivol was already done and next on the line is GGG. I'm not sure who's the 3rd one and I doubt they can insert that fight until the end of the year. Maybe the best logical guess is after GGG, the third fight on Canelo's schedule on that $160M agreement will be on 1Q of 2023.

After finishing that whole year's agreement, the rematch will Bivol will now take place although I doubt if Bivol will still accept the challenge of Canelo.

It was Eddie Hearn advised as well that Canelo should skipped with the Bivol rematch and go with a trilogy with GGG. Maybe they think that Canelo's chances is higher since GGG is old enough and that Canelo will regain back his glory if he defeated his archfoe. And then go for Bivol rematch next year in May in Bivol is willing to give him the rematch. And it boils down to the offer, if they gave offer more than the first fight, maybe he is willing to give Canelo a rematch.
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i am also not thinking that after fighting with ggg, his next aim is a rematch with bivol. i believe that was not on the table before. but we knew that he had a contract to fight GGG even before his bivol's fight. because their trilogy is like finishing the unfinished business.
as GGG is the underdog with this upcoming fight, it will be a good motivation for him to beat Canelo. also, he had seen the bivol's fight so he has idea on where to poke Canelo to beat him. the odds are good if some of you here are going for GGG.

As I previously posted, it was reported Canelo reached an agreement to fight Bivol plus two more fights in 2022 in exchange for $160 million.

The fight against Bivol was already done and next on the line is GGG. I'm not sure who's the 3rd one and I doubt they can insert that fight until the end of the year. Maybe the best logical guess is after GGG, the third fight on Canelo's schedule on that $160M agreement will be on 1Q of 2023.

After finishing that whole year's agreement, the rematch will Bivol will now take place although I doubt if Bivol will still accept the challenge of Canelo.
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Just curious about that last statement, it's a different division, right? not sure about that ticket to call for a rematch against Bivol, he can ask for it and wait for Bivol camp's to accept it, but there's no relation if ever he wins against GGG aside from the hypes and social media exposures. It's in a different division and I'm sure Canelo sign it up to bring more money on his payroll.

Actually, if Canelo will lose against GGG, there's no way Bivol will accept the rematch.

Canelo needs to hype himself again to catch the attention of Bivol.

Bivol makes it clear already that he is not interested in Canelo anymore. He wants to fight other champions and add belts to his possession. That's why a win against GGG in this trilogy is a must-win for Canelo or else, say goodbye now for a rematch against Bivol.

You are correct. The fight between GGG and Bivol is on a different division but Canelo still wants to move up weight and he should pass Bivol first but the latter is not interested anymore. The task now for Canelo is to bring more wins as much as possible.
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I have not read much of the discussions of this thread and this is my first reply. Forgive me if this question has been asked before, however, does anyone speculate that Canelo might be accepting this fight very early after his loss vs. Bivol? GGG should not be very underestimated for this because it also appears that Bivol gave him the tactic to defeat Canelo. GGG also does not look like an old man in the ring with the wins after the loss to Canelo hehe.

As far as I know, this match has been scheduled and set this September though in the past the date was more of a tentative but I think they already have this in mind, sure nobody expected that he would lose against Bivol.

Also, Canelo was the first one to sign the deal because the contract was to fight GGG after Bivol, and GGG followed through after he won against Murata last April. But yes, I also think that this was pushed through much earlier and that really explains that Canelo is really frustrated about his 2nd defeat that's why he want to push this fight much earlier because this match is his ticket for the rematch against Bivol.

Just curious about that last statement, it's a different division, right? not sure about that ticket to call for a rematch against Bivol, he can ask for it and wait for Bivol camp's to accept it, but there's no relation if ever he wins against GGG aside from the hypes and social media exposures. It's in a different division and I'm sure Canelo sign it up to bring more money on his payroll.

It's a money fight since fans are waiting for this to happen, though it's late but better than never.

i am also not thinking that after fighting with ggg, his next aim is a rematch with bivol. i believe that was not on the table before. but we knew that he had a contract to fight GGG even before his bivol's fight. because their trilogy is like finishing the unfinished business.
as GGG is the underdog with this upcoming fight, it will be a good motivation for him to beat Canelo. also, he had seen the bivol's fight so he has idea on where to poke Canelo to beat him. the odds are good if some of you here are going for GGG.
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I have not read much of the discussions of this thread and this is my first reply. Forgive me if this question has been asked before, however, does anyone speculate that Canelo might be accepting this fight very early after his loss vs. Bivol? GGG should not be very underestimated for this because it also appears that Bivol gave him the tactic to defeat Canelo. GGG also does not look like an old man in the ring with the wins after the loss to Canelo hehe.

As far as I know, this match has been scheduled and set this September though in the past the date was more of a tentative but I think they already have this in mind, sure nobody expected that he would lose against Bivol.

Also, Canelo was the first one to sign the deal because the contract was to fight GGG after Bivol, and GGG followed through after he won against Murata last April. But yes, I also think that this was pushed through much earlier and that really explains that Canelo is really frustrated about his 2nd defeat that's why he want to push this fight much earlier because this match is his ticket for the rematch against Bivol.

Just curious about that last statement, it's a different division, right? not sure about that ticket to call for a rematch against Bivol, he can ask for it and wait for Bivol camp's to accept it, but there's no relation if ever he wins against GGG aside from the hypes and social media exposures. It's in a different division and I'm sure Canelo sign it up to bring more money on his payroll.

It's a money fight since fans are waiting for this to happen, though it's late but better than never.
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I have not read much of the discussions of this thread and this is my first reply. Forgive me if this question has been asked before, however, does anyone speculate that Canelo might be accepting this fight very early after his loss vs. Bivol? GGG should not be very underestimated for this because it also appears that Bivol gave him the tactic to defeat Canelo. GGG also does not look like an old man in the ring with the wins after the loss to Canelo hehe.

As far as I know, this match has been scheduled and set this September though in the past the date was more of a tentative but I think they already have this in mind, sure nobody expected that he would lose against Bivol.

Also, Canelo was the first one to sign the deal because the contract was to fight GGG after Bivol, and GGG followed through after he won against Murata last April. But yes, I also think that this was pushed through much earlier and that really explains that Canelo is really frustrated about his 2nd defeat that's why he want to push this fight much earlier because this match is his ticket for the rematch against Bivol.
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He should show us a different Canelo here and have a very worthwhile match.

Canelo should show us a different him in this fight? Seriously against fighting with already closed to a retired boxer?

Let's hope instead for a different Canelo once he faced the boxer in his own league, especially against Dmitry Bivol.

This trilogy is just more of an entertainment. If Canelo will lose here, that's a disgrace. GGG still has the power but he is up against a prime boxer. The difference between them is large. It will be more pressure on Canelo to win the fight instead of GGG as the latter is already catching his father time.

I definitely agree! It's not that Canelo should be prepare for his best because this might be a trilogy but this fight was already a little too late because GGG is near his retirement decision and this might be his last, win or lose, we don't know but either way, Canelo won't benefit much even if he win in this trilogy. There would be no hype in his name nor he can redeem his name after his loss because only Bivol is his way for redemption but the damage has been done even if he will win against Bivol in the rematch, whilst Bivol will be remembered as one of the few who managed to defeat Canelo.
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It's easier for him to retire if he loses the fight because if he wins, it would open more opportunities for him to have big fights and that means a big payday for him, unless, he will think of his legacy and will retire with a pride, like what Mayweather and Marquez did. In the end, it still depends on the decision of GGG, he know his limit and he knows what he likes to achieve in life, so let's enjoy the trilogy as we have been asking for it.

If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.
He might for another fight with any possible boxer if he can defeat Canelo in their trilogy, but the way I see it, win or lose, GGG will likely hang up his gloves because he is already stepping at age 40 and that's where most boxers retire because the exactly knew that they won't be that relevant in the game as their body has been through countless battles since they started their professional fights. Though the upper hand is on Canelo, I would love to see GGG winning in his last match before he retires, I don't want him to be a reason just to have Canelo his ace again.
When it comes to retirement then it would be definitely depending on a certain boxer whether they would be hanging out their gloves or not or would continue despite of the body condition that they do have which we could definitely say that it wont really be much effective when it comes on fighting younger opponents and same as yours im rooting for GGG to win on this one and not that overrated Canelo i would say.
GGG might be old but seeing with that recent fight against Murata then he could still land some good shot and its better to see he would win up against Canelo with this trilogy.

Yup, that fight against Murata was impressive for a man who's already 40 years old or should I say he's 39 at that fight, correct me if I'm wrong about that. As usual, GGG survived that fight with a good outcome and he's still somewhat flexible, for that, I think he still have a shot against Canelo Alvarez. His chin would suffice as long as he won't be KOd.
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GGG just need to perform and try all the best that he can offer during the fight, like what you have said he have nothing to prove just take things the way he always is, his experienced will give some tough fight for Canelo and who knows he might hit him a good combo that will bring him down, boxing is the place where upset happened.

We never know who's going to win till the announcer pronounces the name of the winner.

I would love to see KO from anyone either GGG or Canelo. It will bring more attentions if they will be fighting toe-to-toe.

It seems to me that it would be in Golovkin's interest to force the fight and try to knock out Canello in the first 6 rounds. It is very unlikely that he will be able to outbox or knock him out in the later rounds as convincingly as Bivol, because he will most likely be in big trouble himself, since he is far from young. Canello's strategy is also more or less clear, so there is a chance that we will see a dynamic fight that will end in a knockout.
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Well.. that is also true. Golovkin is now 40 years old. Canelo should have agreed to the trilogy fight in 2019 or 2020. He delayed the fight without any real reason apart from the fear of losing. But even now, it is not going to be easy for Canelo. All that said, the chance of Golovkin winning by KO is next to zero. It is going to be either KO win for Canelo, or a win for either of the sides based on majority decision. And when it comes to latter, Canelo will always have an advantage since the match is taking place in the United States.

Why fighting in United States gives Canelo an advantage over Golovkin? You think because Canelo lives there currently and GGG lives in Kazakhstan? Long time ago GGG has moved to Germany, and I had faced numerous articles claiming he lives both in Stuttgart Germany and Santa Monica US. GGG has same huge army of fans all around the world, and I am sure the venue they will fight, will be crowded by his people, similar to Canelo fans. You would be amazed how GGG is popular in Kazakhstan and how people support him. He wont feel like a visitor during this fight, definitely.
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Hopefully this time, we will get a clear winner and the controversy will be put down once and for all.
And the prime Canelo will fight against an old GGG Cheesy
Ages is really an important thing in sports, especially in boxing where you don't have enough stamina, quick reflect and good movements, you can easily got knocked out. Though it's not a UFC where you can punch your opponent until the referee see the opponent doesn't have any chance to stand up or fight back, but most of the time when the boxer fell down, it's 90% he will lose.

Yes,  GGG is already 40 years old, this fight could have been made in 2019 right after the second fight, prior to the pandemic and GGG still fresh. But Canelo waited for many years, and then GGG somewhat losing his power but still manages to win against a Japanese boxer. Both though really dislikes each other, and this is just the continuation, 24 rounds and yet we are not satisfied with the results. And so this fight is now or never, But right now, I might give the edge to Canelo.

Canelo does not want to fight GGG anymore, but due to the failure of his last fight, he may be thought that he needs another big fight that he thinks he could win so people will forget his previous defeat. This is a chance for GGG to prove that he can beat Canelo because if not, it's better for him to retire after the fight.
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Hopefully this time, we will get a clear winner and the controversy will be put down once and for all.
And the prime Canelo will fight against an old GGG Cheesy
Ages is really an important thing in sports, especially in boxing where you don't have enough stamina, quick reflect and good movements, you can easily got knocked out. Though it's not a UFC where you can punch your opponent until the referee see the opponent doesn't have any chance to stand up or fight back, but most of the time when the boxer fell down, it's 90% he will lose.

Yes,  GGG is already 40 years old, this fight could have been made in 2019 right after the second fight, prior to the pandemic and GGG still fresh. But Canelo waited for many years, and then GGG somewhat losing his power but still manages to win against a Japanese boxer. Both though really dislikes each other, and this is just the continuation, 24 rounds and yet we are not satisfied with the results. And so this fight is now or never, But right now, I might give the edge to Canelo.
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Hopefully this time, we will get a clear winner and the controversy will be put down once and for all.
And the prime Canelo will fight against an old GGG Cheesy
Ages is really an important thing in sports, especially in boxing where you don't have enough stamina, quick reflect and good movements, you can easily got knocked out. Though it's not a UFC where you can punch your opponent until the referee see the opponent doesn't have any chance to stand up or fight back, but most of the time when the boxer fell down, it's 90% he will lose.

Well.. that is also true. Golovkin is now 40 years old. Canelo should have agreed to the trilogy fight in 2019 or 2020. He delayed the fight without any real reason apart from the fear of losing. But even now, it is not going to be easy for Canelo. All that said, the chance of Golovkin winning by KO is next to zero. It is going to be either KO win for Canelo, or a win for either of the sides based on majority decision. And when it comes to latter, Canelo will always have an advantage since the match is taking place in the United States.
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I'd say the first match is more controversial rather than the second, I watched the replay and see GGG should won on the first match, but the judges make it as a draw. Imagine GGG was won the first fight and Canelo was won the second fight, the trilogy will be interesting. No offense to GGG, but Canelo will win.
According to GGG the second fight was more dominant for his victory but he was disappointed with the jury decision, so in the trilogy fight then GGG hoped for an absolute victory, but Canelo is now a strong opponent since the second fight finished and Canelo has dominated many matches with a proud victory, so the fight The trilogy is a fierce battle to determine which of the two is more deserving of the real victory.

I watched the first match live and I will tell you this - there was no chance that the match ended as a draw. GGG couldn't win the match only because of some horrendous scoring from Adalaide Byrd. This individual just stole the match from GGG. I will tell you this - I have watched dozens of boxing matches and this is the worst incident of scoring that I have ever seen. The second match are more like a draw and third party observers were split in their scoring. But once again, the jury sided with Canelo and awarded him the match. So many years have passed.. and I still feel bad when I look back. Hopefully this time, we will get a clear winner and the controversy will be put down once and for all.

If a KO take place that will be a better outcome, no more controversies and the fight will point to the real winner, I can see your frustrations not just because you are fan but with witnessing the fight you also have that knowledge base from your own observations, but those long talks about the previous outcome will be possibly concluded on their upcoming fight.

It will be a good challenge from both sides, GGG to regain the title and Canelo to prove that he really deserves his place from this division.
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Hopefully this time, we will get a clear winner and the controversy will be put down once and for all.
And the prime Canelo will fight against an old GGG Cheesy
Ages is really an important thing in sports, especially in boxing where you don't have enough stamina, quick reflect and good movements, you can easily got knocked out. Though it's not a UFC where you can punch your opponent until the referee see the opponent doesn't have any chance to stand up or fight back, but most of the time when the boxer fell down, it's 90% he will lose.
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