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Quote from: Distinctin on June 13, 2022, 02:36:37 PM

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It's easier for him to retire if he loses the fight because if he wins, it would open more opportunities for him to have big fights and that means a big payday for him, unless, he will think of his legacy and will retire with a pride, like what Mayweather and Marquez did. In the end, it still depends on the decision of GGG, he know his limit and he knows what he likes to achieve in life, so let's enjoy the trilogy as we have been asking for it.

If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

He might for another fight with any possible boxer if he can defeat Canelo in their trilogy, but the way I see it, win or lose, GGG will likely hang up his gloves because he is already stepping at age 40 and that's where most boxers retire because the exactly knew that they won't be that relevant in the game as their body has been through countless battles since they started their professional fights. Though the upper hand is on Canelo, I would love to see GGG winning in his last match before he retires, I don't want him to be a reason just to have Canelo his ace again.

When it comes to retirement then it would be definitely depending on a certain boxer whether they would be hanging out their gloves or not or would continue despite of the body condition that they do have which we could definitely say that it wont really be much effective when it comes on fighting younger opponents and same as yours im rooting for GGG to win on this one and not that overrated Canelo i would say.
GGG might be old but seeing with that recent fight against Murata then he could still land some good shot and its better to see he would win up against Canelo with this trilogy.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on June 11, 2022, 04:17:33 PM

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It's easier for him to retire if he loses the fight because if he wins, it would open more opportunities for him to have big fights and that means a big payday for him, unless, he will think of his legacy and will retire with a pride, like what Mayweather and Marquez did. In the end, it still depends on the decision of GGG, he know his limit and he knows what he likes to achieve in life, so let's enjoy the trilogy as we have been asking for it.

If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

He might for another fight with any possible boxer if he can defeat Canelo in their trilogy, but the way I see it, win or lose, GGG will likely hang up his gloves because he is already stepping at age 40 and that's where most boxers retire because the exactly knew that they won't be that relevant in the game as their body has been through countless battles since they started their professional fights. Though the upper hand is on Canelo, I would love to see GGG winning in his last match before he retires, I don't want him to be a reason just to have Canelo his ace again.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on June 11, 2022, 11:14:07 PM

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If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

If GGG win he will become an undisputed champion in super middleweight division, I think he wouldn't move to light heavyweight like Canelo do, he will collect other belts in middleweight division since he only have both WBA and IBF belts currently. I think after he already become undisputed champion in middleweight divison, he will retire. The odds are favor on Canelo as favorite with 1.22x odds, while GGG as an underdog with 4.00x odds.

That will remain as big if for now because there's no denying that Canelo have the advantages this time, GGG is still good but not as good when he last fought Canelo in their rematch and time have passed, now he is getting older at 40 years old while Canelo is currently standing at his prime. Canelo forced this fight because he needs it now than ever with confident while declining the trilogy for quite few years because he's hiding from the reason that he have defeated GGG already and there's no need for a trilogy.

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After the fall of the legendary and future Hall of Fame Nonito Donaire from the hands of a much younger Naoya Inoue, I can see GGG is next. Although GGG has better odds than Donaire, I still believe the latter has the better chances of winning due to his power and he did hurt Inoue during their first fight. Canelo Alvarez already took GGG's best shots for 24 rounds. Now GGG is old and slower, I really really doubt he can outbox nor hurt Canelo Alvarez. Canelo Alvarez will stop GGG this time. Watch out on boxers entering their mid 30's as their bodies will start to decline (Lomachenko and Crawford).

That may be true but GGG and Donaire is incomparable, the only identical for the both boxers is they are both approach 40 and 40's. Aside from that, GGG have made his own legacy while Donaire have made his own too but they belong in completely different leagues. GGG may lose this trilogy but Canelo won't have that much hype because he didn't gave GGG his deserved rematch for years and now his giving it because he is now sure that he can defeat GGG much easier.

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Watch out on boxers entering their mid 30's as their bodies will start to decline (Lomachenko and Crawford).

Like Canelo, right? The man is also approaching mid 30's.

this is why this match is an interesting one. can GGG prove that age doesn't matter inside the ring? GGG won his last fight with murata, but can he still give a good fight with canelo. for sure, both camps have the motivation to win this upcoming fight. GGG wanting to win one last time maybe before he retires, whereas, canelo wanting to win because he lost his last fight. no odds yet, but who do you think will be the slight favourite of bookies?

Indeed this is an interesting fight but it's not like one of the most anticipated fights because we can somehow say that this fight is a mismatch because the trilogy was already late. No proof could back up that Canelo is afraid of GGG that's why he didn't give him a chance with a trilogy but Canelo cannot hide his anxiousness towards GGG at that time because his actions are somehow clear that he won't risk his record with GGG who has a strong chin and can withstand his power.

Slight favourite of the sports bookies? I bet it will be Canelo for sure, his loss won't be accounted for in this fight because of their gap.

There is no doubt in my mind that after the second fight which was so controversial Canelo and his training staff decided to begin to avoid GGG, as it was simply a fighter that was too difficult to overcome and most likely Canelo would have liked to never face GGG ever again.

However after the loss he suffered against Bivol he needs a fight to raise his status again and GGG is the best option for it, as he will try to dispel all of the doubts generated after the second fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 08, 2022, 04:23:09 AM

After the fall of the legendary and future Hall of Fame Nonito Donaire from the hands of a much younger Naoya Inoue, I can see GGG is next. Although GGG has better odds than Donaire, I still believe the latter has the better chances of winning due to his power and he did hurt Inoue during their first fight. Canelo Alvarez already took GGG's best shots for 24 rounds. Now GGG is old and slower, I really really doubt he can outbox nor hurt Canelo Alvarez. Canelo Alvarez will stop GGG this time. Watch out on boxers entering their mid 30's as their bodies will start to decline (Lomachenko and Crawford).

That may be true but GGG and Donaire is incomparable, the only identical for the both boxers is they are both approach 40 and 40's. Aside from that, GGG have made his own legacy while Donaire have made his own too but they belong in completely different leagues. GGG may lose this trilogy but Canelo won't have that much hype because he didn't gave GGG his deserved rematch for years and now his giving it because he is now sure that he can defeat GGG much easier.

Quote from: inthelongrun on June 08, 2022, 04:23:09 AM

Watch out on boxers entering their mid 30's as their bodies will start to decline (Lomachenko and Crawford).

Like Canelo, right? The man is also approaching mid 30's.

this is why this match is an interesting one. can GGG prove that age doesn't matter inside the ring? GGG won his last fight with murata, but can he still give a good fight with canelo. for sure, both camps have the motivation to win this upcoming fight. GGG wanting to win one last time maybe before he retires, whereas, canelo wanting to win because he lost his last fight. no odds yet, but who do you think will be the slight favourite of bookies?

Indeed this is an interesting fight but it's not like one of the most anticipated fights because we can somehow say that this fight is a mismatch because the trilogy was already late. No proof could back up that Canelo is afraid of GGG that's why he didn't give him a chance with a trilogy but Canelo cannot hide his anxiousness towards GGG at that time because his actions are somehow clear that he won't risk his record with GGG who has a strong chin and can withstand his power.

Slight favourite of the sports bookies? I bet it will be Canelo for sure, his loss won't be accounted for in this fight because of their gap.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 13, 2022, 05:15:59 AM

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If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

If GGG win he will become an undisputed champion in super middleweight division, I think he wouldn't move to light heavyweight like Canelo do, he will collect other belts in middleweight division since he only have both WBA and IBF belts currently. I think after he already become undisputed champion in middleweight divison, he will retire. The odds are favor on Canelo as favorite with 1.22x odds, while GGG as an underdog with 4.00x odds.

Looking at the odds, it is not just a slight Canelo lead. It means that Canelo is a huge favorite in this fight. And I couldn't disagree with it since GGG is old and at the same time he is also moving up in weight. Just in case GGG pulls an upset, is there a rematch clause?

I don't know about the contract yet but I think it would be nice if GGG will give Canelo a chance for a rematch as he was given a chance for a trilogy despite the fact that he has not won a single fight.

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David Benavidez meanwhile is the WBC super middleweight interim champion. He may get the winner of this fight. This kid is a young and big killer. He is fighting under the PBC umbrella though a rival network of DAZN where Canelo and GGG are connected.

For sure that's going to be his big fight as GGG and Canelo are very popular, that would also mean a decent payday.

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If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

If GGG win he will become an undisputed champion in super middleweight division, I think he wouldn't move to light heavyweight like Canelo do, he will collect other belts in middleweight division since he only have both WBA and IBF belts currently. I think after he already become undisputed champion in middleweight divison, he will retire. The odds are favor on Canelo as favorite with 1.22x odds, while GGG as an underdog with 4.00x odds.

Looking at the odds, it is not just a slight Canelo lead. It means that Canelo is a huge favorite in this fight. And I couldn't disagree with it since GGG is old and at the same time he is also moving up in weight. Just in case GGG pulls an upset, is there a rematch clause?

David Benavidez meanwhile is the WBC super middleweight interim champion. He may get the winner of this fight. This kid is a young and big killer. He is fighting under the PBC umbrella though a rival network of DAZN where Canelo and GGG are connected.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on June 11, 2022, 04:17:33 PM

If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

If GGG win he will become an undisputed champion in super middleweight division, I think he wouldn't move to light heavyweight like Canelo do, he will collect other belts in middleweight division since he only have both WBA and IBF belts currently. I think after he already become undisputed champion in middleweight divison, he will retire. The odds are favor on Canelo as favorite with 1.22x odds, while GGG as an underdog with 4.00x odds.

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If it goes down to the scorecard, then Canelo is definitely going to win. Grin

Canelo for sure will be under a lot of pressure. Already he is being blamed for delaying the trilogy fight and on top of that he is still recovering from his upset loss to Dmitry Bivol. I watched the highlights of the match. Canelo started well and Bivol was on the defensive for the first few rounds. But probably Canelo tried too hard too early and after a few rounds, it looked as if he was tired. All the three judges had exactly the same scoring for all the 12 rounds. Canelo won the first four rounds, while Bivol won 7 out of the next 8 rounds.

No doubt but I think GGG can survive the whole 12 rounds without getting knocked out but Canelo will have the upper hand when it comes to the judge's hand.

Hopefully he will somehow give this fight a good one to see because people and fans still wanted to see this trilogy not because they're interested how would the fight go but because this might be GGG's last fight before he decides to hang up his gloves as he is already 40 years old. I'm not underestimating GGG here, I just want him to retire as he is much older already and he's in the hall of fame and won't be forgotten through time. Continuing to dance in this industry will eventually make him look bad as the upcoming champions will look for his name to include him in their rapsheet.

For the first two fights, the scorecards from third party sports websites were completely different from what was given in the end by the jury. So this time there is going to be a lot more scrutiny and the judges will be under a lot of pressure. And regarding the second point, although Golovkin is 40 years old, I don't think that this is going to be his last fight. He can go on for another 2-3 years without lowering his profile. But if he gets knocked out this time, then he might think about an early retirement.

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It's easier for him to retire if he loses the fight because if he wins, it would open more opportunities for him to have big fights and that means a big payday for him, unless, he will think of his legacy and will retire with a pride, like what Mayweather and Marquez did. In the end, it still depends on the decision of GGG, he know his limit and he knows what he likes to achieve in life, so let's enjoy the trilogy as we have been asking for it.

If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

If GGG wins, then he should go back to 160 lbs, there are a lot of young ang upcoming fighters on that division. We have Charlo and then Lara and also Jaime Munguia. So a lot of options for GGG if he chooses to continue to fight.

As for Canelo, at 168 lbs, we've said that he has clean up this division already, and that's why he moved up in weight by defeated by Bivol. The only one name relevant for Canelo at Super Middle is David Benavidez.

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Quote from: Maslate on June 11, 2022, 04:07:38 PM

It's easier for him to retire if he loses the fight because if he wins, it would open more opportunities for him to have big fights and that means a big payday for him, unless, he will think of his legacy and will retire with a pride, like what Mayweather and Marquez did. In the end, it still depends on the decision of GGG, he know his limit and he knows what he likes to achieve in life, so let's enjoy the trilogy as we have been asking for it.

If he will beat Canelo on this one, I am sure, he may not think of retiring yet. But who will be his next opponent other than Canelo again? So yes, this will be interesting how this match will pan out. But in this trilogy, I believe, Canelo will win. As he is coming from a loss, he has the motivation to train and prepare hard for this fight. This is to regain his status and popularity. I am thinking that bookies may slightly favor Canelo here. But let us see once bookies give their odds to this fight.

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Canelo will still likely win this match because he now have more advantage than GGG, but getting a win in this trilogy won't give him much hype but he needs to endure this fight because this is his ticket to get a rematch agaisnt Bivol.

Yes, I agree with that. Winning against GGG won't put Canelo on fame as the big thing is by defeating Dmitry Bivol. If Canelo will win here, I think it's just a recognition that he will receive but the hype isn't that high because GGG is already on his retirement age and this trilogy might be his last fight.

Regardless, Canelo has to win no matter what. If GGG wins instead, I doubt Canelo will have a chance to face Bivol in a rematch. Aside from that, Canelo might not get big fights and needs to go back from the below rankings before having a shot again to fight in a title match.

Nobody have thought that Dmitry Bivol will be the 2nd boxer who will put a stain in Canelo's record, Bivol has the reach advantage but Canelo has the IQ in the ring as he is more experienced but the defending champion, Bivol has done a good job in frustrating Canelo. The judge's tried to help Canelo but the fight was really clear that Canelo was having a hard time getting near with Bivol.

If GGG will win in this trilogy, I don't know anymore. Perhaps Canelo should go back down to his most comfortable division and make his name again great in that specific division.

Yeah, GGG is also determined to win, and now that Canelo is coming from a loss that will make GGG more confident that he can exploit Canelo's weakness. After this, GGG can retire (regardless of the outcome) because he is not getting any younger and he has already achieved a lot in boxing to be called as one of the greatest, so he can enjoy his life while he is still healthy.

It's easier for him to retire if he loses the fight because if he wins, it would open more opportunities for him to have big fights and that means a big payday for him, unless, he will think of his legacy and will retire with a pride, like what Mayweather and Marquez did. In the end, it still depends on the decision of GGG, he know his limit and he knows what he likes to achieve in life, so let's enjoy the trilogy as we have been asking for it.

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Canelo will still likely win this match because he now have more advantage than GGG, but getting a win in this trilogy won't give him much hype but he needs to endure this fight because this is his ticket to get a rematch agaisnt Bivol.

Yes, I agree with that. Winning against GGG won't put Canelo on fame as the big thing is by defeating Dmitry Bivol. If Canelo will win here, I think it's just a recognition that he will receive but the hype isn't that high because GGG is already on his retirement age and this trilogy might be his last fight.

Regardless, Canelo has to win no matter what. If GGG wins instead, I doubt Canelo will have a chance to face Bivol in a rematch. Aside from that, Canelo might not get big fights and needs to go back from the below rankings before having a shot again to fight in a title match.

Nobody have thought that Dmitry Bivol will be the 2nd boxer who will put a stain in Canelo's record, Bivol has the reach advantage but Canelo has the IQ in the ring as he is more experienced but the defending champion, Bivol has done a good job in frustrating Canelo. The judge's tried to help Canelo but the fight was really clear that Canelo was having a hard time getting near with Bivol.

If GGG will win in this trilogy, I don't know anymore. Perhaps Canelo should go back down to his most comfortable division and make his name again great in that specific division.

Yeah, GGG is also determined to win, and now that Canelo is coming from a loss that will make GGG more confident that he can exploit Canelo's weakness. After this, GGG can retire (regardless of the outcome) because he is not getting any younger and he has already achieved a lot in boxing to be called as one of the greatest, so he can enjoy his life while he is still healthy.

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Canelo will still likely win this match because he now have more advantage than GGG, but getting a win in this trilogy won't give him much hype but he needs to endure this fight because this is his ticket to get a rematch agaisnt Bivol.

Yes, I agree with that. Winning against GGG won't put Canelo on fame as the big thing is by defeating Dmitry Bivol. If Canelo will win here, I think it's just a recognition that he will receive but the hype isn't that high because GGG is already on his retirement age and this trilogy might be his last fight.

Regardless, Canelo has to win no matter what. If GGG wins instead, I doubt Canelo will have a chance to face Bivol in a rematch. Aside from that, Canelo might not get big fights and needs to go back from the below rankings before having a shot again to fight in a title match.

Nobody have thought that Dmitry Bivol will be the 2nd boxer who will put a stain in Canelo's record, Bivol has the reach advantage but Canelo has the IQ in the ring as he is more experienced but the defending champion, Bivol has done a good job in frustrating Canelo. The judge's tried to help Canelo but the fight was really clear that Canelo was having a hard time getting near with Bivol.

If GGG will win in this trilogy, I don't know anymore. Perhaps Canelo should go back down to his most comfortable division and make his name again great in that specific division.

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Maybe it was because can see his punch as it is slow, or Bivol is too good for Canelo at Light Heavyweight. But when him and GGG fight it will be in his sweet zone of 168 lbs so perhaps Canelo will be quick and have that crisp in his shot. But like the rest of you guys, we like the chances of GGG, I think he can still fight even at his age and it could still be a war like in the first 2 fights. Both give each other hell, but they have a granite chin so no one was knock out or knock down. And this could hold true in the trilogy and it will go on the judges scorecard.

If it goes down to the scorecard, then Canelo is definitely going to win. Grin

Canelo for sure will be under a lot of pressure. Already he is being blamed for delaying the trilogy fight and on top of that he is still recovering from his upset loss to Dmitry Bivol. I watched the highlights of the match. Canelo started well and Bivol was on the defensive for the first few rounds. But probably Canelo tried too hard too early and after a few rounds, it looked as if he was tired. All the three judges had exactly the same scoring for all the 12 rounds. Canelo won the first four rounds, while Bivol won 7 out of the next 8 rounds.

No doubt but I think GGG can survive the whole 12 rounds without getting knocked out but Canelo will have the upper hand when it comes to the judge's hand.

Hopefully he will somehow give this fight a good one to see because people and fans still wanted to see this trilogy not because they're interested how would the fight go but because this might be GGG's last fight before he decides to hang up his gloves as he is already 40 years old. I'm not underestimating GGG here, I just want him to retire as he is much older already and he's in the hall of fame and won't be forgotten through time. Continuing to dance in this industry will eventually make him look bad as the upcoming champions will look for his name to include him in their rapsheet.

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We know this is a problem with professional boxing, since boxing is a sport of appreciation there is always a chance judges can be bribed or simply have a bias which affects their judgment, without a doubt Bivol won the fight and he did by a wider margin than the official result, still the reputation of Canelo was enough to shorten the difference in the score, for GGG things will be even more difficult because officially he has lost against Canelo already, even if such result was very controversial as well.

If the loss is controversial there should be a succeeding fight to once and for all resolve it, I hate seeing boxers winning by a close margin when you looked at the fight it's not even close, I love to fight that end by knock out or stoppage, there's already a lot of matches in boxing history that are very controversial and deprived boxers of deserving wins.
The first two fights between GGG and Canelo are too close to call I hope they can finally resolve it but I doubt it because they are both good in their last fights.

I agree that if there is a controversial fight we would need to get a rematch almost immediately to resolve any doubts the public may have about the fight, however we also need to remember that most of the time boxers will put their interests above the interests of the public, in this particular case after Canelo got the win over GGG on the second fight there was interest by the public to see them fight right away, but Canelo refused, it is only now that Canelo needs to reestablish himself as a top fighter after his most recent loss and the fact that GGG is now older that we will get to see this fight.

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After the fall of the legendary and future Hall of Fame Nonito Donaire from the hands of a much younger Naoya Inoue, I can see GGG is next. Although GGG has better odds than Donaire, I still believe the latter has the better chances of winning due to his power and he did hurt Inoue during their first fight. Canelo Alvarez already took GGG's best shots for 24 rounds. Now GGG is old and slower, I really really doubt he can outbox nor hurt Canelo Alvarez. Canelo Alvarez will stop GGG this time. Watch out on boxers entering their mid 30's as their bodies will start to decline (Lomachenko and Crawford).

But we love these boxers who try to defy Father time, but slowly, not just in boxing, and sooner or later they will have to face the reality that they are past heir prime already and this might be the fight that we might see GGG and say that. Maybe it's the way they really take care of their body and the advancement of sports medicine and not taking shots and damages that we see this boxers still fighting at 40's.

I agree, fight fans will always love and remember those who made the extra mile. I think nearly all athletes are taking care of their bodies especially boxers where lives are at stake. It's just that the great ones have also the tendencies to make it another extra mile. Because their extra ordinary gifts and skills are sometimes enough to win fights even if their bodies are not prime anymore. Record breaking old fighters like George Foreman, Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather and Nonito Donaire are already legends even before achieving another milestones by continuing to fight despite past their primes.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 09, 2022, 08:24:42 PM

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I think both of them will have a lot of pressure on this fight. GGG wanted to get his only lost and believed that he won the 2 previous fight. And then Canelo coming from a humiliating defeat from Bivol and wanted to show that he is the real winner and there should be no controversies in their first 2 fight. And for sure this two are going to bad mouth each other again.

I agree with the first part, but not with the second. Even of Canelo wins fair and square against GGG this time, the controversy regarding the first two fights will not die. Golovkin is already 40 years old and he is a clear underdog for the trilogy fight. If Canelo had accepted the challenge in 2019, then I would have agreed that he is not afraid to face GGG and he is all in for a fair fight. But he has waited for three years, just to wear down GGG. And it further amplifies Golovkin's claim that the previous two matches were stolen from him.

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 09, 2022, 04:06:27 AM

Maybe it was because can see his punch as it is slow, or Bivol is too good for Canelo at Light Heavyweight. But when him and GGG fight it will be in his sweet zone of 168 lbs so perhaps Canelo will be quick and have that crisp in his shot. But like the rest of you guys, we like the chances of GGG, I think he can still fight even at his age and it could still be a war like in the first 2 fights. Both give each other hell, but they have a granite chin so no one was knock out or knock down. And this could hold true in the trilogy and it will go on the judges scorecard.

If it goes down to the scorecard, then Canelo is definitely going to win. Grin

Yeah, but hopefully this time they will pick judges that are not biased to Canelo Cheesy

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Quote from: Kemarit on June 09, 2022, 04:06:27 AM

Canelo for sure will be under a lot of pressure. Already he is being blamed for delaying the trilogy fight and on top of that he is still recovering from his upset loss to Dmitry Bivol. I watched the highlights of the match. Canelo started well and Bivol was on the defensive for the first few rounds. But probably Canelo tried too hard too early and after a few rounds, it looked as if he was tired. All the three judges had exactly the same scoring for all the 12 rounds. Canelo won the first four rounds, while Bivol won 7 out of the next 8 rounds.

I think both of them will have a lot of pressure on this fight. GGG wanted to get his only lost and believed that he won the 2 previous fight. And then Canelo coming from a humiliating defeat from Bivol and wanted to show that he is the real winner and there should be no controversies in their first 2 fight. And for sure this two are going to bad mouth each other again.

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