Topic: [Boxing] Crawford vs Spence - page 11. (Read 8564 times)

I have to look at this Jaron Ennis though, I have read a lot about him lately so I might be interested to check him out and how good he is. Next Floyd Mayweather? I don't believed that, maybe they are just hyping him and probably but the next super welterweight that might stay as the champion. But the fight is still Spence vs Crawford, no other option for the 147 lbs, forget about Thurman, Ennis and who is on the radar right now. Spence vs Crawford is what the fans demanded from this promoters and networks.

I mean the mandatory seems to be willing to step aside and let them fight? So why not for Spence or Crawford to push for their fight first before anyone else? After this one, they fight their mandatories, have rematch or move up to the next weight class. So it doesn't make sense to fight Ennis because as you have said, less money for either of them. Besides, they are already 30++ years old, although they are still in their prime, but they can't wait for another year and postpone this match.

And if I'm not mistaken, both have been talking about Ennis for now, I hear Crawford mention him several times in his interview and believed that Ennis is the future but he is also open in facing him and unless there will be no issues with their promotions, this is a good fight as well in my opinion.

But what we are waiting is still the unification fight that we all have been speculating for many months now and so far their is a definitive date but we think that it can't be made on time. There is a demand for this fight so obviously, the money is going to be huge.

Jaron Ennis is the mandatory opponent of Spence and this guy has an awesome record he has 29 wins and 27 knockouts and is touted to be the next Floyd Mayweather, Spence is going to get less money on this fight and he will be in trouble against this guy because this is a worthy challenger, this could be the guy that can stop the Spence - Crawford to happen if he beat Spence, Spence should face Crawford because there is huge money that he's going to take than fighting Ennis.

It's been widely known by the fans that Crawford is willing to accept the smaller slice of the cake because he knows that Spence has earned the right to get bigger slice, what the man wants is a full transparency, is that really hard to agree? If that's the case then it's somewhat clear that Spence and his camp wants to take as much as they can while they have the advantage and by denying Crawford. Maybe it's time to affect the fact that Spence and his camp have no plans on making the fight happen.

This is a possible scenario since there is no contract to talk about, the big question is why now they have been negotiating for months, its easy to delay or stop the fight by pointing out something in the contract, in this case, this so-called transparency, now they have the December and January date, after this, we will read more issues and eventually both fighters will look for other fighters to fight, they just take us for a ride, because if they are serious they should have signed the contract earlier.

This is bad news, though it's also speculation it's not good to see this kind of news that will only disappoint the fans who keep hyping this fight. I don't know why they are still hesitant to make it happen, it's a big PPV fight, both will certainly make huge money.

Either way, we cannot verify if it's indeed Spence or Crawford but just like what you said, many believed that Spence is the one who's ducking and not Crawford because the latter is really eager to make the fight happen while Spence and his camp is so silent all this time. We thought that the fight is already a done deal as they are just waiting for the signing of contracts, but just few days after, we received some news that they are again in dispute.

As I was browsing, I found this.
Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2022/10/02/errol-spence-jr-terence-crawford-contract-mess/

Crawford accepted the smaller split. What else Spence and his team want? There is another problem that appeared. Crawford will receive the smaller split and his split is based on the net income of the fight. It is normal for Crawford to ask for all expenses to be recorded in transparent way if he is only given a share from net revenues. Once again Spence and Al Haymon are silent and hesitant to give Crawford full access to fight expenses. Things are getting messy and smelly. Crawford gettin' tripped here.

Well there is a popular belief that Spence is somewhat stalling this fight, not necessarily being coward, but most probably just want to get the lion share of the purse. And we also believed that Crawford has agreed to the 60-40 split. So there should be no hindrance whatsoever.

And yet, the fight is still not being made and we are lead to believed that November is the date. But it's already October and we haven't heard much except what they term as 'agreed in terms'.

Who is the coward of these two boxers? I am hearing this talks about they will face each other but we are now in 2022 and nothing has changed but all hype. If I could remember, Terrence Crawford was the undisputed champ at 140 and there were talks already about him and Errol Spence facing each other. We even believed that the fight did not materialize because of different promoters. But now Terrence Crawford as no promoter but there is no deal happening. Everyone will finally see who is ducking who in this situation.

Of course, bookies can do that, putting an early lines would attract bettors, and they can even use the money of the early bets, that's in their favor too. Well, hopefully it will not be cancelled but there should be no issue betting early even if there's no announcement yet.

Yes, definitely sportsbookies can update their dates or even delete it totally if the fight is not going to happen.


The date could have been floated by someone around close to the fight, most likely the network.


That's why fights are promoted, there could be at least a story line. Like in this case, both are champions, so we need to see who is going to be the top dog of the 147 lbs. Undefeated, and still in their prime. So everyone is anticipating this boxing fight and it could even topple the GGG-Canelo numbers as far as PPV numbers.

it's anticipated but long been delayed because of something behind that keeps both fighter's camp not to sign the deal.

Not sure if what kind of negotiations are still on progress, but yes with the set dates and bookies already add the fight in the betting list.

They can easily cancel the bet and bring all the money back to the early bettors in-case the fight got cancelled to whatever reason.

The odds posted by the sportsbooks can easily be withdrawn if both camps decided to suspend the fight.
But yes, there's a date already so maybe they are just making some issues to make a scene in the boxing community.
After all, a controversy is always good to promote a fight, and this fight in particular is already a big one.
They are seeing how this one will attract from the boxing fans, and for me, this match is one of the anticipated boxing fights in the last few months of this year.

But the hype is already building so big that fans are eagerly waiting for the result of the negotiation. We are being teased that both agreed in terms already, now we hear that one side wanted the contract to be transparent, or whatever that it means.

So it's either we have been duped to believed that the fight is happening, and they even have a date to boot. Or it's not, they are just putting in some works to keep everyone hope alive that they are going to face, but instead it might in the middle of next year, or maybe not.

Including me, I have no doubt that Crawford have the higher hand here compared to Spence and he's likely going to win. Crawford is fearless and doesn't really care that much whom he will face next, as long as you're in the way or you're a belt holder, sooner or later you will have your chance to fight Crawford because he's aiming for legacy and not for money fights.

Although this time around, Crawford is demanding or asking the opposite camp to be transparent and that may be the reason why the fight has been delayed to December or January.

Indeed! It's a tough choice for sure but maybe the odds of the draw will be great soon, so maybe I'd throw some few dollars as I can't let that chance pass as I said anything could be possible. But you also got a point because a draw is really not likely to happen here because this fight is all about their legacy and I think they'll fight while chasing scores if they can't knockout each other.

Nowadays money can dictate what people did and about this fight if this match will happen then for sure many people around the world wish to watch the fight in the venue and if the organization choose the biggest venue then  95-100 percent sure that the setting capacity is became fully occupied by the audience. So a lot of money will earn and if money speaks then this fight will be come and that's the biggest goal of the organization,

For me, Crawford is really looking forward to the fight with Spence. for me there will be no offer so that these two do not meet, I think there is no way that the fight does not take place, it would also be somewhat annoying if it does not take place, for me these fights have a lot to do with the handle that It moves, that is, if the number of people who will attend exceed expectations, it is obvious that it will happen, I do not think that one of the organizers will say No to money, I think that will be one of the things that they can never accept.

When taking into account, what they are trying to fix, it must be that there are other interests above them who do not want me to fight, but hopefully the sport succeeds before the money they handle behind the scenes.



The truth is that you are absolutely right, right now the boxers know all the money they can earn, of course they only dedicate themselves to the fights and only concentrate on their training, and the promoters are the ones who have the contacts and manage themselves at all levels So if Crawford learned from all this, then he has the right to be able to run his own businesses, the truth is not bad at all, everyone has the right to do it, that is why I think they did everything possible to attract attention, many people They believe that this fight will not happen, but for me it is imperative that it be done, if we take into account the voice of the fans, it should be developed.

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For now this is one of the latest news that I have found out regarding this fight:

     Errol Spence Jr vs. Terence Crawford in jeopardy




Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/09/errol-spence-jr-vs-terence-crawford-in-jeoparty/

This is something that has kept us abreast of what may or may not happen, personally I want this fight to happen, if it does happen I would like it, Crawford can venture into the best of being a businessman.