[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 15.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 19, 2022, 10:28:39 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

Well the bookies have listed Spence as the favorite rather than Ugas but that doesn't mean that the favorite will always be the winner and the underdog will always be the one to lose.

What I meant is the other half of the crowd are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and others are also speculating that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO, surely I haven't said that most of them are on Ugas's side like the what you've said.

And it is really okay that you don't agree about Spence winning via KO, were just here to make some speculations. Chance are chances, no matter how slim that chances are. I'm just saying Grin

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 19, 2022, 02:42:31 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 19, 2022, 10:28:39 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

That's why this kind of discussion is needed because we have 2 sides of the story. So it's either you are wrong in your speculation or you got it right.

And with this fight, it's really hard to see where the fight will go, although sport bookies put Spence as the favorite but Ugas can be seen as a live underdog.

Exactly, that's why this thread discussion is made. It is to throw some speculations and opinions on who will win in this match to help us give an idea on have the most probability in the fight but our speculations will be only answered after the fight announcer concludes the winner.

Almost all of us have a different point of view and while others may have share the same.

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Quote from: Maslate on March 19, 2022, 04:19:22 PM

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 19, 2022, 03:28:43 PM

Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.

It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

Beating Ugas is like beating Pacman also, so no more speculation that Spence could lose the fight if he did not cancel it. There's a lot of stake on this fight as both are champions trying to unify their belt, and I like Ugas for taking this fight even though he is a real underdog, which only says he really has the heart of a champion.

Agree with what you said because indeed if Spence managed to beat Ugas indirectly he also beat Pacman because basically Pacman lost to Ugas before.
Apart from that, as you said, this is a match that is really worth waiting for because this is a match that is quite enthusiastic everywhere in my opinion because it will be phenomenal.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 20, 2022, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2022, 09:48:11 PM

Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

It's understandable that Ugas will remain as an underdog, however, that 4:1 odds for him is quite undervalued for him. I would understand if it's 3:1, but 4:1, I think that is just too much, and with that said, I might consider betting on Ugas. Who knows, upset could happen anytime.

Both are equally talented no doubt about it, good jab, ring IQ and they are almost equal.

But for me Spence has the edge in this fight, although we can think that Ugas has a real shot at Spence, but in the end Spence would prevail in a very entertaining but close fight. The jab will be the key here, both have a decent jab, but the first one that can get and double up will probably have a good score on the judges scorecard.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 20, 2022, 11:44:38 AM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 20, 2022, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2022, 09:48:11 PM

Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

It's understandable that Ugas will remain as an underdog, however, that 4:1 odds for him is quite undervalued for him. I would understand if it's 3:1, but 4:1, I think that is just too much, and with that said, I might consider betting on Ugas. Who knows, upset could happen anytime.

Yeah, that is a huge underdog odds if it is 4:1 for Ugas. And this could influence bettors who are not a fan, but a pure gambler to just put money on him because of the possibility of an upset. And it seems that Spence is very confident that he will beat Ugas, so who knows, that confidence might fall through and the unexpected happen, bring huge profits to those who take the risk.

Right, anything can happen so why not risk it right now when the odds is still very high for a Ugas upset? And then we will see if Spence confidence is still there despite the eye injury and his accident years ago.

All things considered, this will be a great fight, of course everyone wanted a showdown between Spence and Crawford but this fight makes sense for now as all the belts is on the line.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on March 20, 2022, 07:41:35 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2022, 09:48:11 PM

Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

It's understandable that Ugas will remain as an underdog, however, that 4:1 odds for him is quite undervalued for him. I would understand if it's 3:1, but 4:1, I think that is just too much, and with that said, I might consider betting on Ugas. Who knows, upset could happen anytime.

Yeah, that is a huge underdog odds if it is 4:1 for Ugas. And this could influence bettors who are not a fan, but a pure gambler to just put money on him because of the possibility of an upset. And it seems that Spence is very confident that he will beat Ugas, so who knows, that confidence might fall through and the unexpected happen, bring huge profits to those who take the risk.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2022, 09:48:11 PM

Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

It's understandable that Ugas will remain as an underdog, however, that 4:1 odds for him is quite undervalued for him. I would understand if it's 3:1, but 4:1, I think that is just too much, and with that said, I might consider betting on Ugas. Who knows, upset could happen anytime.

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Quote from: Maslate on March 19, 2022, 04:19:22 PM

Quote from: Alanaz on March 19, 2022, 03:55:19 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on March 19, 2022, 03:28:43 PM

Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.

It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

Beating Ugas is like beating Pacman also, so no more speculation that Spence could lose the fight if he did not cancel it. There's a lot of stake on this fight as both are champions trying to unify their belt, and I like Ugas for taking this fight even though he is a real underdog, which only says he really has the heart of a champion.

Well we can put it that way, if he beats Ugas then he can claim that he beat the man who beat the legend. Both belts are on the line that's why there are a lot at stakes in this fight and no one wanted to give anyone even just one advantage before the fight. Ugas is the underdog as we mentioned many times already, and there is no shift, Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

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Quote from: Alanaz on March 19, 2022, 03:55:19 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on March 19, 2022, 03:28:43 PM

Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.

It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

Beating Ugas is like beating Pacman also, so no more speculation that Spence could lose the fight if he did not cancel it. There's a lot of stake on this fight as both are champions trying to unify their belt, and I like Ugas for taking this fight even though he is a real underdog, which only says he really has the heart of a champion.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 19, 2022, 03:28:43 PM

Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.

It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

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Quote from: Baofeng on March 19, 2022, 02:42:31 PM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 19, 2022, 10:28:39 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

That's why this kind of discussion is needed because we have 2 sides of the story. So it's either you are wrong in your speculation or you got it right.

And with this fight, it's really hard to see where the fight will go, although sport bookies put Spence as the favorite but Ugas can be seen as a live underdog.

Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 19, 2022, 10:28:39 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

That's why this kind of discussion is needed because we have 2 sides of the story. So it's either you are wrong in your speculation or you got it right.

And with this fight, it's really hard to see where the fight will go, although sport bookies put Spence as the favorite but Ugas can be seen as a live underdog.

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Quote from: Oasisman on March 19, 2022, 12:24:00 PM

Exactly!
Ugas is known to be defensive and not the kind of fighter who forces his way to win by throwing plenty of punches, even If it means he is the challenger.
He's also a good counter puncher, and these type of fighters aren't the one that you're comfortable fighting with.
I would also love to see an upset in this match lol.
Spence might have a good chance of winning this fight, but knocking out Ugas might be a hard task for Spence.

Who knows if how prepared Ugas in this fight, a good counter puncher that have a good history of being a defensive specialist, more on how he can avoid those heavy punches of Spence and how he will react in sending his counterattack, he needs to plan his move a single mistake will cause him an opening that may be used against him.

Spence has a strong body he loves forcing his way. If Ugas is unable to match that power, his chance is slim, but if he can counter and continue to protect his weak sides, the chance of winning is possible.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 19, 2022, 10:28:39 AM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

Exactly!
Ugas is known to be defensive and not the kind of fighter who forces his way to win by throwing plenty of punches, even If it means he is the challenger.
He's also a good counter puncher, and these type of fighters aren't the one that you're comfortable fighting with.
I would also love to see an upset in this match lol.
Spence might have a good chance of winning this fight, but knocking out Ugas might be a hard task for Spence.

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 18, 2022, 08:59:45 AM

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Quote from: joeperry on March 18, 2022, 07:03:44 AM

Errol Spence Jr was supposed to be the original opponent of Manny Pacquiao right and ended up with Yordenis Ugas which where he lost. This could be an interesting match I think Yordenis has a higher chance of winning since I was looking at previous match of Pacquiao and Spence Jr. I see that Pacquaio has an advantage but losses to Ugas so there's a high possibility that Ugas will win the match.

Absolutely. Ugas has successfully beats Pacquiao. So I think Errol Spence will be a big losser of this match. If Ugas prepare well and be sharp, good footwork and throw more punches, Eroll will be in trouble.

Manny Pacquiao is not already in his prime and the match result is not a convincing win for him since the score tally difference is not that huge. Errol Spence is much dangerous to current MP that’s why MP keeps dodging this young deadly boxer since they know that Errol has an incredible speed and quick thinking inside the ring. I’m sure the match will be interesting by I’m not gonna put my money to Ugas this time because Errol Spence already prove his strength base on his matches and all of them is pretty convincing win for him.

Yes, by the time Ugas and Pacquiao fought, the latter wasn't in his usual speed and strength anymore that's because he ain't in his prime anymore, and I think that was the same reason on why Ugas have won by a unanimous decision. If Manny Pacquiao and Spence have fought last time, I'm certain that Spence will also win that time but sadly he had to withdraw for some issues in his eye. In the same manner, I'll put my bets on Spence too without a doubt.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 18, 2022, 05:19:49 PM

ugas definitely is preparing for this upcoming fight as it is a very challenging one for him. he knows, bookies and boxing fans are favouring spence jr here. he's the underdog as clearly seen from the odds. so can he put up a good fight with spence? we will see it inside the ring. but more then likely it is not a boring fight. this i believe is worth to watch and bet on. if you feel that ugas has a very good chance of winning on this match, the odds are actually good with about 4.35x, that's a good return of your money if he wins.

Ugas asked and requested for this fight to happen therefore we should expect that he's not going to make things easy for Spence to win.

I even want to bet on him if the odds will increase more. Since I'm not a fan of two, why not bet on the underdog as it seems it's worth risking for. Ugas is maybe underdog on sportsbook but I think there's a good chance he might make an upset for a much stronger Errol Spence.

I will decide where should I place my bet at least 2-3 before the fight.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on March 18, 2022, 08:47:03 AM

Quote from: joeperry on March 18, 2022, 07:03:44 AM

Errol Spence Jr was supposed to be the original opponent of Manny Pacquiao right and ended up with Yordenis Ugas which where he lost. This could be an interesting match I think Yordenis has a higher chance of winning since I was looking at previous match of Pacquiao and Spence Jr. I see that Pacquaio has an advantage but losses to Ugas so there's a high possibility that Ugas will win the match.

Absolutely. Ugas has successfully beats Pacquiao. So I think Errol Spence will be a big losser of this match. If Ugas prepare well and be sharp, good footwork and throw more punches, Eroll will be in trouble.

That's what makes this fight very interesting to see because Spence here is supposedly the first opponent of Manny Pacquiao but later on Spence withdraw from the fight due to some eye issues, IIRC. After the withdrawal, Ugas has been selected as his replacement but later on Ugas won via UD against Pacquiao with just a short notice and short time to prepare for the fight.

Now, Ugas will fight Spence and again he is the underdog. People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

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Quote from: dimonstration on March 18, 2022, 08:59:45 AM

Quote from: jhonjhon on March 18, 2022, 08:47:03 AM

Quote from: joeperry on March 18, 2022, 07:03:44 AM

Errol Spence Jr was supposed to be the original opponent of Manny Pacquiao right and ended up with Yordenis Ugas which where he lost. This could be an interesting match I think Yordenis has a higher chance of winning since I was looking at previous match of Pacquiao and Spence Jr. I see that Pacquaio has an advantage but losses to Ugas so there's a high possibility that Ugas will win the match.

Absolutely. Ugas has successfully beats Pacquiao. So I think Errol Spence will be a big losser of this match. If Ugas prepare well and be sharp, good footwork and throw more punches, Eroll will be in trouble.

Manny Pacquiao is not already in his prime and the match result is not a convincing win for him since the score tally difference is not that huge. Errol Spence is much dangerous to current MP that’s why MP keeps dodging this young deadly boxer since they know that Errol has an incredible speed and quick thinking inside the ring. I’m sure the match will be interesting by I’m not gonna put my money to Ugas this time because Errol Spence already prove his strength base on his matches and all of them is pretty convincing win for him.

Comparing out prime Spence on that old MP then we could really see the huge difference which it is true that this isnt something a solid nor reliable for you to mind off about Ugas to beat Spence

easily but somehow the odds or chances of some upset could be still there and just like any other boxing matches out there even where favorites could be beaten up by the underdog.
Preparations would really be just normal as always because each boxer would really be enhancing up themselves and find up some flaws towards their opponents.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on March 18, 2022, 12:18:18 PM

Quote from: dimonstration on March 18, 2022, 08:59:45 AM

Quote from: jhonjhon on March 18, 2022, 08:47:03 AM

Quote from: joeperry on March 18, 2022, 07:03:44 AM

Errol Spence Jr was supposed to be the original opponent of Manny Pacquiao right and ended up with Yordenis Ugas which where he lost. This could be an interesting match I think Yordenis has a higher chance of winning since I was looking at previous match of Pacquiao and Spence Jr. I see that Pacquaio has an advantage but losses to Ugas so there's a high possibility that Ugas will win the match.

Absolutely. Ugas has successfully beats Pacquiao. So I think Errol Spence will be a big losser of this match. If Ugas prepare well and be sharp, good footwork and throw more punches, Eroll will be in trouble.

Manny Pacquiao is not already in his prime and the match result is not a convincing win for him since the score tally difference is not that huge. Errol Spence is much dangerous to current MP that’s why MP keeps dodging this young deadly boxer since they know that Errol has an incredible speed and quick thinking inside the ring. I’m sure the match will be interesting by I’m not gonna put my money to Ugas this time because Errol Spence already prove his strength base on his matches and all of them is pretty convincing win for him.

No question about Spence strength he still young even he came from an accident he proves that he can comeback inside the ring

and win a fight against strong opponent like Porter, though we can't say that it will be an assurance to all bettors that he will win this

fight. Ugas is also a champ and have preparation that will condition himself to make sure that he is ready to face the heavy favored

Spence.

ugas definitely is preparing for this upcoming fight as it is a very challenging one for him. he knows, bookies and boxing fans are favouring spence jr here. he's the underdog as clearly seen from the odds. so can he put up a good fight with spence? we will see it inside the ring. but more then likely it is not a boring fight. this i believe is worth to watch and bet on. if you feel that ugas has a very good chance of winning on this match, the odds are actually good with about 4.35x, that's a good return of your money if he wins.

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