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Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 12. (Read 3688 times)

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The adjustment from Ugas will be the exciting thing that may happen here, if he can take those solid punches and throw also a good heavy counter to bring Spence down..

That's what I like to see from him, however, I think the chance is very low because his counter punch is not to damage the opponent but for him to only score and win the fight. If his counter is solid, he could have knock-out Pacman in his last fight when the legend could not even move like his usual.

A win is a win though. If that's his style, then just focus on it instead of pushing for a Knock Out win. Even we think that judges will be side with Spence, Ugas just have to make sure that he steals every round and the viewers really see that Spence is struggling.

Judges will have a fair result if that's the scene they will see, Ugas dominating Spence every round.

Tough work but necessary to do. It's hard to KO Spence so go with the other way around if necessary.

He needs to think fast while inside the ring, and have alternatives with the techniques.
If one doesn't work, he should easily switch to another one. Otherwise, Spence Jr will win easily.
Being the underdog here, he should be more aggressive to show what he's got.
KO or not, he should think strategically to get ahead of the game, otherwise, those 3 belts are gone.
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The adjustment from Ugas will be the exciting thing that may happen here, if he can take those solid punches and throw also a good heavy counter to bring Spence down..

That's what I like to see from him, however, I think the chance is very low because his counter punch is not to damage the opponent but for him to only score and win the fight. If his counter is solid, he could have knock-out Pacman in his last fight when the legend could not even move like his usual.

A win is a win though. If that's his style, then just focus on it instead of pushing for a Knock Out win. Even we think that judges will be side with Spence, Ugas just have to make sure that he steals every round and the viewers really see that Spence is struggling.

Judges will have a fair result if that's the scene they will see, Ugas dominating Spence every round.

Tough work but necessary to do. It's hard to KO Spence so go with the other way around if necessary.

True, I don't see anyone knocking out Spence as this point, I wouldn't say that he has a good chin, but it has been crack, there are fights of him that he was hit in the chin, didn't go down but wobble.

And I doubt that Ugas has the power to knock him out, it will be a deliberate fight on Ugas, that will be his strategy, wait for Spence to make a mistake and then counter and score points. It's just how the judges will score the fight, if they score it for Ugas on a per round then good. For sure, boxing pundits will call it a robbery if they see the winner not deserving specially fight of this magnitude.
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The adjustment from Ugas will be the exciting thing that may happen here, if he can take those solid punches and throw also a good heavy counter to bring Spence down..

That's what I like to see from him, however, I think the chance is very low because his counter punch is not to damage the opponent but for him to only score and win the fight. If his counter is solid, he could have knock-out Pacman in his last fight when the legend could not even move like his usual.

A win is a win though. If that's his style, then just focus on it instead of pushing for a Knock Out win. Even we think that judges will be side with Spence, Ugas just have to make sure that he steals every round and the viewers really see that Spence is struggling.

Judges will have a fair result if that's the scene they will see, Ugas dominating Spence every round.

Tough work but necessary to do. It's hard to KO Spence so go with the other way around if necessary.
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The adjustment from Ugas will be the exciting thing that may happen here, if he can take those solid punches and throw also a good heavy counter to bring Spence down..

That's what I like to see from him, however, I think the chance is very low because his counter punch is not to damage the opponent but for him to only score and win the fight. If his counter is solid, he could have knock-out Pacman in his last fight when the legend could not even move like his usual.
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Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.
It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

Beating Ugas is like beating Pacman also, so no more speculation that Spence could lose the fight if he did not cancel it. There's a lot of stake on this fight as both are champions trying to unify their belt, and I like Ugas for taking this fight even though he is a real underdog, which only says he really has the heart of a champion.
Agree with what you said because indeed if Spence managed to beat Ugas indirectly he also beat Pacman because basically Pacman lost to Ugas before.
Apart from that, as you said, this is a match that is really worth waiting for because this is a match that is quite enthusiastic everywhere in my opinion because it will be phenomenal.
As everything has been going on, it is likely that Spence is preparing at a very high level, if UGAS maintains a level like the one it had against Pacquiao, it is very difficult to beat him, and I am not saying that Pacquiao is an exclusive reference, but rather that he has a lot of relevance because it represents being a boxing legend, in this case I think I could go more for Spence, because if Ugas loses he will only keep his title as the best, but Spence will face him and if we go psychologically, Ugas has a lot of pressure and If the statistics give a greater probability that Ugas wins, then this adds much more pressure.

The problem is that a lot of both the media and some people even prioritize statistics especially against Pacquiao whereas on the other hand I quite agree with what you said, Pacman is not that strong because he was hampered by his age against Ugas some time ago.
Pressure is sure to arise and indeed this will have little effect on Ugas if he is in the shadow of this pressure for too long, even though he is a professional but I'm not too sure if this pressure is allowed to drag on it will not have any impact
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That can be a challenge on Ugas's side because we know that Spence Jr. is not afraid to take some punch just to get near with him in-order to get a clear punch just like Ugas's goal. The thing is Ugas is known for his defensive tactics while the latter is known for his offensive tactics and often times it works.

These two rivals are expecting to get a KO somewhere before 10 rounds to get a clear statement just like you said, the question now is that can they really do it? Or a UD is more possible in this fight?

Surprise may happen. I don't say that upset, but maybe yes or maybe a draw. We really never know if how this fight will end up. And which fighter is more hunger for the win, though for sure both are, but everything will be depending on the camps scouts their opponent and how good the preparations are to have a better chance of winning this fight.

It will be more on the counters and how strong both champs to stay standing tall, heavy puncher against a well-known defensive fighter.
The adjustment from Ugas will be the exciting thing that may happen here, if he can take those solid punches and throw also a good heavy counter to bring Spence down..
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If Ugas can do it again on Spence, it's good. But Spence won't make it happen. Odds just tell us the gap between these two. It's the same odds when Ugas becomes the replacement of Spence to fight Pacquiao.

With the same strategy, I don't think it would work on Spence.

Spence is taller and with a longer reach, so in order for Ugas to hurt Spence, he should be aggressive and look for a good counter punch as Spence is very aggressive as hell.  Maybe there are lots of doubts regarding Spence health, but we can still not deny that he remains undefeated despite of that.

Right, just one factor to look at Spence in the beginning, ring rust plus the eye injury, if this two issues are not there in the fight then he has a good chance to win against Ugas.

But if he is bother by both, specially like very conscious in protecting his eye, then maybe Ugas can fine an opening and make it a good fight for Spence. So it's very important for Ugas early to try and keep the fight to Spence and really test if he is worry about this health specially that eye of his.


timing and have a solid counter punch must ugas have cause his opponent is not just easy to beat, a champion that can proved himself that he is the best in their division. If ugas play aggressive and have a lot of punches for sure he will win the match and claim the belt. But we must be carefully to Spence as it his a bloody and deadly weapon.
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If Ugas can do it again on Spence, it's good. But Spence won't make it happen. Odds just tell us the gap between these two. It's the same odds when Ugas becomes the replacement of Spence to fight Pacquiao.

With the same strategy, I don't think it would work on Spence.

Spence is taller and with a longer reach, so in order for Ugas to hurt Spence, he should be aggressive and look for a good counter punch as Spence is very aggressive as hell.  Maybe there are lots of doubts regarding Spence health, but we can still not deny that he remains undefeated despite of that.

Yes, if he wants to win, Ugas needs to be more aggressive and not just to focus on his old style of fighting, more defense than trying
to knock down his opponents, I'm pretty sure that if it's the prime Pacman that he faces chances of him beating beaten is high. The speed

is no longer their for Pacman and the cramps that he's complaining, the effects of aging really show, not an excuse but reality that takes place.
Moving back, Spence is still young and still in his prime, big and strong and can be more aggressive to break any wall that Ugas will try to

use. A solid punch from Spence will surely shake Ugas and that's what most the fans wanted to see once the fight take place.
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If Ugas can do it again on Spence, it's good. But Spence won't make it happen. Odds just tell us the gap between these two. It's the same odds when Ugas becomes the replacement of Spence to fight Pacquiao.

With the same strategy, I don't think it would work on Spence.

Spence is taller and with a longer reach, so in order for Ugas to hurt Spence, he should be aggressive and look for a good counter punch as Spence is very aggressive as hell.  Maybe there are lots of doubts regarding Spence health, but we can still not deny that he remains undefeated despite of that.

Right, just one factor to look at Spence in the beginning, ring rust plus the eye injury, if this two issues are not there in the fight then he has a good chance to win against Ugas.

But if he is bother by both, specially like very conscious in protecting his eye, then maybe Ugas can fine an opening and make it a good fight for Spence. So it's very important for Ugas early to try and keep the fight to Spence and really test if he is worry about this health specially that eye of his.
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If Ugas can do it again on Spence, it's good. But Spence won't make it happen. Odds just tell us the gap between these two. It's the same odds when Ugas becomes the replacement of Spence to fight Pacquiao.

With the same strategy, I don't think it would work on Spence.

Spence is taller and with a longer reach, so in order for Ugas to hurt Spence, he should be aggressive and look for a good counter punch as Spence is very aggressive as hell.  Maybe there are lots of doubts regarding Spence health, but we can still not deny that he remains undefeated despite of that.
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Majority of people been really basing off with that Pacquiao vs Ugas fight but to mind off that Pacquiao wasnt on his prime already on the time he fought Ugas which it wont really be that enough on making it as a reference or having that triangle kind of perception towards the upcoming fight.

It just makes sense for people to look at what happened in Pacquiao vs Ugas fight as a reference to this fight because even a non-prime Pacquiao, Ugas should have difficulty making a win. But look at what happened, Ugas clearly beat Pacquiao at most rounds and we can Pacman is having trouble. Pacquiao even not in the prime is still deadly but Ugas make the fight look simple to him.

Ugas win on that fight not because Pacquiao is not in his prime anymore but he just really totally dominated the whole fight.

If Ugas can do it again on Spence, it's good. But Spence won't make it happen. Odds just tell us the gap between these two. It's the same odds when Ugas becomes the replacement of Spence to fight Pacquiao.
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Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.
It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

Beating Ugas is like beating Pacman also, so no more speculation that Spence could lose the fight if he did not cancel it. There's a lot of stake on this fight as both are champions trying to unify their belt, and I like Ugas for taking this fight even though he is a real underdog, which only says he really has the heart of a champion.
Agree with what you said because indeed if Spence managed to beat Ugas indirectly he also beat Pacman because basically Pacman lost to Ugas before.
Apart from that, as you said, this is a match that is really worth waiting for because this is a match that is quite enthusiastic everywhere in my opinion because it will be phenomenal.
As everything has been going on, it is likely that Spence is preparing at a very high level, if UGAS maintains a level like the one it had against Pacquiao, it is very difficult to beat him, and I am not saying that Pacquiao is an exclusive reference, but rather that he has a lot of relevance because it represents being a boxing legend, in this case I think I could go more for Spence, because if Ugas loses he will only keep his title as the best, but Spence will face him and if we go psychologically, Ugas has a lot of pressure and If the statistics give a greater probability that Ugas wins, then this adds much more pressure.

Majority of people been really basing off with that Pacquiao vs Ugas fight but to mind off that Pacquiao wasnt on his prime already on the time he fought Ugas which it wont really be that enough
on making it as a reference or having that triangle kind of perception towards the upcoming fight. If Ugas would lost into this one then it wont really be that much a big concern but if Spence then
that would be his first and would be a giving a great effect not only mentally but also in overall career statistics which it would be good if he had able to retain that no-loss fighter.
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Can't underestimate Ugas, he is now a champion and we cannot just look at his past fights as every boxer has a chance to improve and be more motivated especially if they are already holding a belt. The last fight of Ugas probably will bring him enough confidence in facing Spence, and Spence should see that as Ugas is not the same fighter anymore 2 years ago.

Ugas believers here can take advantage of the betting odds, the public would not change their view anyway, so Ugas will remain as underdog.
It's true that things like this are very clear because indeed his victory against Paquiao clearly gives him an advantage in terms of public opinion now.
But on the other hand Spence definitely knows this and with this he will be more motivated I think. Victory against Ugas will certainly make his name shine even more and this will be his chance to make history for his career. I think it will be tough in terms of the fight later but even so I will not hesitate to be on Spence's Side

Beating Ugas is like beating Pacman also, so no more speculation that Spence could lose the fight if he did not cancel it. There's a lot of stake on this fight as both are champions trying to unify their belt, and I like Ugas for taking this fight even though he is a real underdog, which only says he really has the heart of a champion.
Agree with what you said because indeed if Spence managed to beat Ugas indirectly he also beat Pacman because basically Pacman lost to Ugas before.
Apart from that, as you said, this is a match that is really worth waiting for because this is a match that is quite enthusiastic everywhere in my opinion because it will be phenomenal.
As everything has been going on, it is likely that Spence is preparing at a very high level, if UGAS maintains a level like the one it had against Pacquiao, it is very difficult to beat him, and I am not saying that Pacquiao is an exclusive reference, but rather that he has a lot of relevance because it represents being a boxing legend, in this case I think I could go more for Spence, because if Ugas loses he will only keep his title as the best, but Spence will face him and if we go psychologically, Ugas has a lot of pressure and If the statistics give a greater probability that Ugas wins, then this adds much more pressure.
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I just check one sport bookies and I don't see the odds for a KO before round 10 or a UD results. It's just the ML and obviously Spence is still the heavy favorite to win. Maybe when we see more odds we can say if bookies will favor a KO or a UD. And if it is a good odds then why not take it?

We will probably have that kind of odds by April next month.
For now, we can only see the moneyline odds as we can see here - https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/international-matchups/spence-errol-vs-ugas-yordenis-620ca5f0d7d8928580f63be3

Spence 1.20
Ugas 4.10
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I think you didn't get the distribution of the percentage made above. From what I understand, it means that if the fight goes to decision and even Ugas is ahead, the probability that the judge will still favor Spence is likely high as he's the favorite and the most anticipated fight by many is him against Terence Crawford. I can even give Spence at 80% to win by Decision.

That is possible to happen that's why Ugas should make a clear win at most rounds so that people and viewers will side with him pressuring the judges to be fair. I'm not saying it will be rigged but as I said, many want to see Crawford vs Spence which now takes several years in the making.

No doubt as it happened before, Pacquiao loses a fight in a decision by judges even it's been clear that he has the most converted punches. also not saying that it can be rigged, but for Ugas to win, he needs to make a statement in throwing punches and, if possible, knocking Spence is he's best key.

Though, on the back of my mind. It's still Spence that has the advantage and has that power punch to put Ugas down. Maybe Ugas is good at protecting his body and face, but the power coming from Spence's combos is really tough to anticipate.

It's really interesting if how Ugas will counter and try to take a clear punch to knock Spence down. Roll Eyes Cool

That can be a challenge on Ugas's side because we know that Spence Jr. is not afraid to take some punch just to get near with him in-order to get a clear punch just like Ugas's goal. The thing is Ugas is known for his defensive tactics while the latter is known for his offensive tactics and often times it works.

These two rivals are expecting to get a KO somewhere before 10 rounds to get a clear statement just like you said, the question now is that can they really do it? Or a UD is more possible in this fight?

And that's why style makes fight, it will be a tactical battle from round 1, Spence trying to go inside, and then Ugas being a defensive boxer, will not allow it to happen or will counter Spence if he wants to be the aggressor early.

I just check one sport bookies and I don't see the odds for a KO before round 10 or a UD results. It's just the ML and obviously Spence is still the heavy favorite to win. Maybe when we see more odds we can say if bookies will favor a KO or a UD. And if it is a good odds then why not take it?
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I think you didn't get the distribution of the percentage made above. From what I understand, it means that if the fight goes to decision and even Ugas is ahead, the probability that the judge will still favor Spence is likely high as he's the favorite and the most anticipated fight by many is him against Terence Crawford. I can even give Spence at 80% to win by Decision.

That is possible to happen that's why Ugas should make a clear win at most rounds so that people and viewers will side with him pressuring the judges to be fair. I'm not saying it will be rigged but as I said, many want to see Crawford vs Spence which now takes several years in the making.

No doubt as it happened before, Pacquiao loses a fight in a decision by judges even it's been clear that he has the most converted punches. also not saying that it can be rigged, but for Ugas to win, he needs to make a statement in throwing punches and, if possible, knocking Spence is he's best key.

Though, on the back of my mind. It's still Spence that has the advantage and has that power punch to put Ugas down. Maybe Ugas is good at protecting his body and face, but the power coming from Spence's combos is really tough to anticipate.

It's really interesting if how Ugas will counter and try to take a clear punch to knock Spence down. Roll Eyes Cool

That can be a challenge on Ugas's side because we know that Spence Jr. is not afraid to take some punch just to get near with him in-order to get a clear punch just like Ugas's goal. The thing is Ugas is known for his defensive tactics while the latter is known for his offensive tactics and often times it works.

These two rivals are expecting to get a KO somewhere before 10 rounds to get a clear statement just like you said, the question now is that can they really do it? Or a UD is more possible in this fight?
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It's a big hill for Ugas to climb here, he really needs to have a satisfying win if this goes to 12 round. A knock out maybe be out of the picture, but who knows, maybe he can dig and find a way to hit Spence on the right spot and knock him down for good.

So yeah, Ugas should be perfect in this match, his mindset, his body in order to pull an upset and then calls for Crawford for the unification.

It is undeniable that Spence is the crowd favorite here in this upcoming match but I would still want to give Ugas a chance here to stand up and show us if a 30% chance for him to win in a Unanimous decision will be justifiable by just simple speculations. I know that Spence is a great fighter and so do Ugas too that's why I believe this will be a difficult fight for both however I would going to agree in a thought that this time Ugas will going to climb a big hill here.
The best thing to happen in his career, beating Spence will be another milestone and a good chance to fight against Crawford.

That will settle all the belts in this division, a tough journey but a big climb in case he wins. Too early and all of us here are just speculating,

Providing our thoughts and opinions to both fighters. As a fan, watching a tough to tough fight is what I'm waiting to see between these two

champs, the best one, will win and for sure it's a deserving win.
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I think you didn't get the distribution of the percentage made above. From what I understand, it means that if the fight goes to decision and even Ugas is ahead, the probability that the judge will still favor Spence is likely high as he's the favorite and the most anticipated fight by many is him against Terence Crawford. I can even give Spence at 80% to win by Decision.

That is possible to happen that's why Ugas should make a clear win at most rounds so that people and viewers will side with him pressuring the judges to be fair. I'm not saying it will be rigged but as I said, many want to see Crawford vs Spence which now takes several years in the making.

No doubt as it happened before, Pacquiao loses a fight in a decision by judges even it's been clear that he has the most converted punches. also not saying that it can be rigged, but for Ugas to win, he needs to make a statement in throwing punches and, if possible, knocking Spence is he's best key.

Though, on the back of my mind. It's still Spence that has the advantage and has that power punch to put Ugas down. Maybe Ugas is good at protecting his body and face, but the power coming from Spence's combos is really tough to anticipate.

It's really interesting if how Ugas will counter and try to take a clear punch to knock Spence down. Roll Eyes Cool
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It's a big hill for Ugas to climb here, he really needs to have a satisfying win if this goes to 12 round. A knock out maybe be out of the picture, but who knows, maybe he can dig and find a way to hit Spence on the right spot and knock him down for good.

So yeah, Ugas should be perfect in this match, his mindset, his body in order to pull an upset and then calls for Crawford for the unification.

It is undeniable that Spence is the crowd favorite here in this upcoming match but I would still want to vive Ugas a chance here to stand up and show us if a 30% chance for him to win in a Unanimous decision will be justifiable by just simple speculations. I know that Spence is a great fighter and so do Ugas too that's why I believe this will be a difficult fight for both however I would going to agree in a thought that this time Ugas will going to climb a big hill here.
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Knockout = Spence
Decision = Ugas 30% Spence 70% lol

This is probably the best probability for the fight since they are fighting in the USA where if you are not a citizen there, you need to work harder to knock out your opponent because if you let the official decide the match, it would be total chaos because it always drips away from the unofficial scorecard, especially a championship fight like this where one of the fighters is totally underdog.

I would disagree with the decision percentage, I think that's too high given for Spence considering they are both champions in this division. If the fight reaches the judges' scorecards, it's either one is not engaging a lot, or it's a closer fight where both fighters are strong enough to absorb punches from each other.

I think 60/40 would be fair enough, but it depends on who performs better, so I won't choose a boxer for a certain percentage.

I think you didn't get the distribution of the percentage made above. From what I understand, it means that if the fight goes to decision and even Ugas is ahead, the probability that the judge will still favor Spence is likely high as he's the favorite and the most anticipated fight by many is him against Terence Crawford. I can even give Spence at 80% to win by Decision.

That is possible to happen that's why Ugas should make a clear win at most rounds so that people and viewers will side with him pressuring the judges to be fair. I'm not saying it will be rigged but as I said, many want to see Crawford vs Spence which now takes several years in the making.
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