[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 13.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 23, 2022, 06:58:56 PM

Knockout = Spence
Decision = Ugas 30% Spence 70% lol

This is probably the best probability for the fight since they are fighting in the USA where if you are not a citizen there, you need to work harder to knock out your opponent because if you let the official decide the match, it would be total chaos because it always drips away from the unofficial scorecard, especially a championship fight like this where one of the fighters is totally underdog.

I would disagree with the decision percentage, I think that's too high given for Spence considering they are both champions in this division. If the fight reaches the judges' scorecards, it's either one is not engaging a lot, or it's a closer fight where both fighters are strong enough to absorb punches from each other.

I think 60/40 would be fair enough, but it depends on who performs better, so I won't choose a boxer for a certain percentage.

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Quote from: Mahanton on March 23, 2022, 04:16:46 PM

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the possibility is very small indeed because, as you said, Spence has a fairly large body in this case, Ugas has a hard time knocking out pacman and that's true especially now dealing with bigger people. but this can still happen if Spence does make a pretty fatal mistake although this is quite likely in my opinion and even less likely to happen

Mistakes should really be avoided or making it as little as possible because it would really be might causing that Fatal shit which would really be putting you in trouble.Dont really make yourself
that too confident just because you are owning your opponent basing on statistics and built but we know that this is where shit happens when you do underestimate your enemy.
Ugas isnt a solid hitter but does really have that stamina which you could really count on.I do see this would last in 12 rounds but UD for Spence if he wont able to take him down.

In terms of endurance maybe he is quite strong and that is clear evidence but you also admit when it was 12 rounds wouldn't it be profitable for Spence.
Ugas has to make something tangible by increasing his hitting and has to be determined to drop if he doesn't want to lose the count because this is something he's possible if he wants to win.
but the problem is what should he do? because it attacks aggressively in my opinion this is also less effective for Ugas

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 23, 2022, 06:58:56 PM

Knockout = Spence
Decision = Ugas 30% Spence 70% lol

This is probably the best probability for the fight since they are fighting in the USA where if you are not a citizen there, you need to work harder to knock out your opponent because if you let the official decide the match, it would be total chaos because it always drips away from the unofficial scorecard, especially a championship fight like this where one of the fighters is totally underdog.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 23, 2022, 06:58:56 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 11:35:54 PM

Sorry mate, I think Spence will win this fight if this will end in KO.

No way, Ugas would beat Spence by KO if he will play safe all the time, if he was not able to KO Pacman who is a smaller fighter and had a problem in the fight, how much more a bigger and a prime Spence, so NO.

Knockout = Spence
Decision = Ugas 30% Spence 70% lol

Ugas has no way to win but to show he's the clear winner of the fight. Although we are just are guessing here, looks like everything is on Spence's side. Poor Ugas, he really needs to work a hard way since, in the first place, that was the necessary thing to do.

No need for a Knock Out win but if he can do it, much better. That's a big upset to Spence if he will won this match.

It's a big hill for Ugas to climb here, he really needs to have a satisfying win if this goes to 12 round. A knock out maybe be out of the picture, but who knows, maybe he can dig and find a way to hit Spence on the right spot and knock him down for good.

So yeah, Ugas should be perfect in this match, his mindset, his body in order to pull an upset and then calls for Crawford for the unification.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 11:35:54 PM

Sorry mate, I think Spence will win this fight if this will end in KO.

No way, Ugas would beat Spence by KO if he will play safe all the time, if he was not able to KO Pacman who is a smaller fighter and had a problem in the fight, how much more a bigger and a prime Spence, so NO.

Knockout = Spence
Decision = Ugas 30% Spence 70% lol

Ugas has no way to win but to show he's the clear winner of the fight. Although we are just are guessing here, looks like everything is on Spence's side. Poor Ugas, he really needs to work a hard way since, in the first place, that was the necessary thing to do.

No need for a Knock Out win but if he can do it, much better. That's a big upset to Spence if he will won this match.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 23, 2022, 06:38:29 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on March 23, 2022, 04:16:46 PM

Ugas isnt a solid hitter but does really have that stamina which you could really count on.I do see this would last in 12 rounds but UD for Spence if he wont able to take him down.

Lasting to 12 rounds and if the fight will be in Decision, Ugas is in trouble.

Even Ugas is the clear winner of the fight, I'm speculating a boxing politics here.

For sure, this is a possibility, judges might favored Spence if this goes to a full 12 round because of boxing politics. Some of judges favored champions to win.

Quote from: goinmerry on March 23, 2022, 06:38:29 PM

Without a doubt, a big money is expected if Spence vs Crawford will happen instead of Ugas vs Crawford. That's just my speculation but possible to happen. We are not born yesterday to think there's no such thing as that happening behind the curtains.

Yes, it will be a mega-fight if the division, two undefeated champion and still on their prime, all the belts in the line, this will be huge fight. Maybe comparable to Pacquiao vs Floyd and could crack top 10 or even top 5 as far as PPV revenue goes.

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Quote from: Mahanton on March 23, 2022, 04:16:46 PM

Ugas isnt a solid hitter but does really have that stamina which you could really count on.I do see this would last in 12 rounds but UD for Spence if he wont able to take him down.

Lasting to 12 rounds and if the fight will be in Decision, Ugas is in trouble.

Even Ugas is the clear winner of the fight, I'm speculating a boxing politics here.

Without a doubt, a big money is expected if Spence vs Crawford will happen instead of Ugas vs Crawford. That's just my speculation but possible to happen. We are not born yesterday to think there's no such thing as that happening behind the curtains.

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Errol Spence: ‘I got 2 more fights at 147 then I’m moving up’

Errol Spence seems a sure win already based on his recent statement. It's obvious that he was referring to Yordenis Ugas and Terence Crawford as his last 2 target fights at 147lbs before moving up to 154lbs. He is really confident that he's the King at 147. If only Pacquiao is focusing on boxing alone without any distraction and side activities, even at his current age, we might see Spence struggling to be the undisputed champion.

Some analyst says that Crawford is not as deadly as before and Spence might win over him. During the 2 previous fights of Crawford, he seems struggling at the early rounds but was able to take care of the business later on. A win is a win although not his usual.

After all, that was all speculation and the real deal will just be witnessed once they faced it. Prior to Crawford, there's Ugas first to settle with.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 08:37:14 AM

Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

Spence might be annoyed during the process and will try to crack the defense of Ugas in the 6th or 7th round. That might lead to an opening to Spence that Ugas can take advantage of. But that was a plan, Spence will be an aggressive fighter until Ugas will attempt to counter it making an opening too for him. Then that will be the turning point per round.

I don't see this fight ending at 12 rounds. It will be a KO victory but to whom, we don't know.

We are now turning to technical boxing analysts here lol.

Sorry mate, I think Spence will win this fight if this will end in KO.

No way, Ugas would beat Spence by KO if he will play safe all the time, if he was not able to KO Pacman who is a smaller fighter and had a problem in the fight, how much more a bigger and a prime Spence, so NO.

the possibility is very small indeed because, as you said, Spence has a fairly large body in this case, Ugas has a hard time knocking out pacman and that's true especially now dealing with bigger people. but this can still happen if Spence does make a pretty fatal mistake although this is quite likely in my opinion and even less likely to happen

Mistakes should really be avoided or making it as little as possible because it would really be might causing that Fatal shit which would really be putting you in trouble.Dont really make yourself
that too confident just because you are owning your opponent basing on statistics and built but we know that this is where shit happens when you do underestimate your enemy.
Ugas isnt a solid hitter but does really have that stamina which you could really count on.I do see this would last in 12 rounds but UD for Spence if he wont able to take him down.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 11:35:54 PM

Quote from: agustina2 on March 22, 2022, 06:39:15 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 08:37:14 AM

Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

Spence might be annoyed during the process and will try to crack the defense of Ugas in the 6th or 7th round. That might lead to an opening to Spence that Ugas can take advantage of. But that was a plan, Spence will be an aggressive fighter until Ugas will attempt to counter it making an opening too for him. Then that will be the turning point per round.

I don't see this fight ending at 12 rounds. It will be a KO victory but to whom, we don't know.

We are now turning to technical boxing analysts here lol.

Sorry mate, I think Spence will win this fight if this will end in KO.

No way, Ugas would beat Spence by KO if he will play safe all the time, if he was not able to KO Pacman who is a smaller fighter and had a problem in the fight, how much more a bigger and a prime Spence, so NO.

the possibility is very small indeed because, as you said, Spence has a fairly large body in this case, Ugas has a hard time knocking out pacman and that's true especially now dealing with bigger people. but this can still happen if Spence does make a pretty fatal mistake although this is quite likely in my opinion and even less likely to happen

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^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

Yes, expect an intense and tough fight because this is a unification match and we will definitely get to see those in less than a month now.

Being inactive for over a year is not that big deal anymore as almost every boxer can now avoid being rusty in the ring and that's the least weakness for Spence because even if he's not fighting for more than 1 year he still fit and doing light to heavy exercise and that could include sparring in his workout sessions.

this is why preparation is the key here and the strategies they are planning once inside the ring. as this is a unification fight, who will win will win big on this match. it is very clear that spence jr is highly favoured here. but we can't ignore ugas' skills. but in any case, i believe, we will see a very good toe-to-toe fight and that would be worth it.

Exactly! We can tell that both of them have prepared and have planned each and every strategy carefully if either one of them is moving this way because both of their belt is at stake, so we can actually tell that this would be an interesting match to see because neither of them is willing to lose.

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People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

Well the bookies have listed Spence as the favorite rather than Ugas but that doesn't mean that the favorite will always be the winner and the underdog will always be the one to lose.

What I meant is the other half of the crowd are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and others are also speculating that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO, surely I haven't said that most of them are on Ugas's side like the what you've said.

And it is really okay that you don't agree about Spence winning via KO, were just here to make some speculations. Chance are chances, no matter how slim that chances are. I'm just saying Grin

Let's just put our bet and at the end of the fight, we will know if we are right or wrong. Right now, we are just speculators of the fight, and since no one can ensure the outcome of the fight, then there's no right or wrong on our predictions.

That's pretty much better because too much speculations won't help us to decide which boxer we wanted to bet, just trust your own instincts. Either way, only one of them will be hailed winner because I think that a draw on this one ain't possible to happen and until the match has end, that's the time that we can figure out if our speculations were right or wrong.

There so many things to happen in regards with this fight so we might see Ugas to win or either Spence will upset Ugas on this fight so I guess we are only dealing here a pure speculation since after all both of them are strong, but what Ugas have is confidence as he came from a huge victory from a boxing legend.

Yes, the fact that he have won against the People's Champ (Pacquiao) surely gets him in a much nicer spot in the industry which led him into a fight against Spence now and he must win again now to prove the people that he's a live underdog and we can't forget that this time Ugas has given a much longer time to prepare for this fight unlike last time with his fight against Pacquiao.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not an Ugas's fan. I'm just also telling some facts to help people decide where to bet on this match.

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Quote from: agustina2 on March 22, 2022, 06:39:15 PM

Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 08:37:14 AM

Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

Spence might be annoyed during the process and will try to crack the defense of Ugas in the 6th or 7th round. That might lead to an opening to Spence that Ugas can take advantage of. But that was a plan, Spence will be an aggressive fighter until Ugas will attempt to counter it making an opening too for him. Then that will be the turning point per round.

I don't see this fight ending at 12 rounds. It will be a KO victory but to whom, we don't know.

We are now turning to technical boxing analysts here lol.

It's good though, I mean we all have been in the sports of boxing for many years and we have seen fighters with this kind of breed. And I do agree with your analysis, that Spence will play the aggressor in this fight and Ugas comfortable at countering because he likes to be that kind of fighter.

But not sure if he can counter Spence though, Spence has been with a lot of counter boxers, like Danny Garcia and he avoided that patented left hook of Danny and even negate it. So this is really a interesting battle to watch.

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Quote from: harizen on March 22, 2022, 06:58:41 PM

Seems that we have a hot discussion regarding throwing speculations.

Just throw your speculations and analysis, guys. Everyone is entitled to do it as long as of course, it makes sense. We are really ended up speculating here since obviously, we are talking about the pre-fight analysis here. It's also good that we are discussing those here to somehow give us a reference on who's to bet. There are also lurkers here that want some idea. Don't hesitate to share your thoughts. We are all having a friendly discussion here with a sense.

Yeah, it's true that there are some people here who are checking for the best information before taking their bets.

By sharing your knowledge and those updates from these two fighters, you can provide an idea that maybe influenced someone to

bet alongside with you. No one can accurately predict the actual outcome. Either upset or heavy favorite will win this fight. It will

be decided after the last announcement has been proclaimed.

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Quote from: agustina2 on March 22, 2022, 06:39:15 PM

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Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

Spence might be annoyed during the process and will try to crack the defense of Ugas in the 6th or 7th round. That might lead to an opening to Spence that Ugas can take advantage of. But that was a plan, Spence will be an aggressive fighter until Ugas will attempt to counter it making an opening too for him. Then that will be the turning point per round.

I don't see this fight ending at 12 rounds. It will be a KO victory but to whom, we don't know.

We are now turning to technical boxing analysts here lol.

Sorry mate, I think Spence will win this fight if this will end in KO.

No way, Ugas would beat Spence by KO if he will play safe all the time, if he was not able to KO Pacman who is a smaller fighter and had a problem in the fight, how much more a bigger and a prime Spence, so NO.

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Seems that we have a hot discussion regarding throwing speculations.

Just throw your speculations and analysis, guys. Everyone is entitled to do it as long as of course, it makes sense. We are really ended up speculating here since obviously, we are talking about the pre-fight analysis here. It's also good that we are discussing those here to somehow give us a reference on who's to bet. There are also lurkers here that want some idea. Don't hesitate to share your thoughts. We are all having a friendly discussion here with a sense.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 22, 2022, 08:37:14 AM

Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

Spence might be annoyed during the process and will try to crack the defense of Ugas in the 6th or 7th round. That might lead to an opening to Spence that Ugas can take advantage of. But that was a plan, Spence will be an aggressive fighter until Ugas will attempt to counter it making an opening too for him. Then that will be the turning point per round.

I don't see this fight ending at 12 rounds. It will be a KO victory but to whom, we don't know.

We are now turning to technical boxing analysts here lol.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on March 22, 2022, 05:27:50 PM

this is why preparation is the key here and the strategies they are planning once inside the ring. as this is a unification fight, who will win will win big on this match. it is very clear that spence jr is highly favoured here. but we can't ignore ugas' skills. but in any case, i believe, we will see a very good toe-to-toe fight and that would be worth it.

From what I observed, Ugas is more aggressively doing some intense training since he is eyeing really on the goal to be the undisputed champion. When he beat Pacquiao, something has become an inspiration to him that he can also be part of the discussion on their weight class. Now that he achieved it and has a quick path to face Spence, he won't waste that opportunity.

After Spence, just one fight away to become a Unified champion and that's against Terence Crawford.

Ugas will finally be happy with his retirement making a good portfolio on his career. Although as I'm writing this, that's just a dream for now to him.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 21, 2022, 08:36:42 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 21, 2022, 07:06:46 AM

^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

Yes, expect an intense and tough fight because this is a unification match and we will definitely get to see those in less than a month now.

Being inactive for over a year is not that big deal anymore as almost every boxer can now avoid being rusty in the ring and that's the least weakness for Spence because even if he's not fighting for more than 1 year he still fit and doing light to heavy exercise and that could include sparring in his workout sessions.

this is why preparation is the key here and the strategies they are planning once inside the ring. as this is a unification fight, who will win will win big on this match. it is very clear that spence jr is highly favoured here. but we can't ignore ugas' skills. but in any case, i believe, we will see a very good toe-to-toe fight and that would be worth it.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 21, 2022, 08:36:42 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 21, 2022, 07:06:46 AM

^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

Yes, expect an intense and tough fight because this is a unification match and we will definitely get to see those in less than a month now.

Being inactive for over a year is not that big deal anymore as almost every boxer can now avoid being rusty in the ring and that's the least weakness for Spence because even if he's not fighting for more than 1 year he still fit and doing light to heavy exercise and that could include sparring in his workout sessions.

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