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Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 17. (Read 3659 times)

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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

I think the main concern relies on the purse split why Spence seems to avoid Crawford. A 50-50 split is not making sense for Spence.

The reason? Between him and Crawford, the former seems the one that will make the possible fight profitable. He is a much-considered King of PPV compared to Crawford and that was proven already.

Maybe a 60-40 should be fine but I don't know if Crawford will like that idea.

Also another concern is the pot might not be very big enough for Spencer to accept Terence Crawford's challenge. As I mentioned before, Errol Spence Jr. is using a similar tactic as Floyd Mayweather where he will so no until the money is right for him to say yes. My only hope is they will not be old before they say yes similar to Amir Khan versus Kell Brook hehe.

I don't think there will be no money in this fight, there will be enough for both, biggest paycheck ever for anyone of them. The hype is still there specially if Spence bet Ugas in his fight. Crawford has been calling him for quite sometime now, it's up to Spence to response back to make this fight happen. We don't want to see him on the downturn of their career before facing each other. It should be in their primes, in the next 2 years.

I never told everyone that there will be no money for Spence versus Crawford, however, it would be very wrong to assume that there will be enough money on offer for 1 of the fighters. I am implying Errol Spence might want more than how much is on offer for him to fight the other king of the welterweight division. This is happening very much similar to Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. There were offers proposed for Mayweather, however, he rejected them because he was very certain the next offer would be bigger. He waited until he thought it was the biggest offer possible from the promoters. I reckon Spence is also waiting for the biggest offer that he speculates would be the biggest possible from the promoters.

So you saying that it will be waiting game moving forward? If that will be the reasoning that maybe there will be no hype if they decided to fight in the next couple of years or when Spence is satisfied with the offer. And who knows, maybe along the way there could be some that might come up and this fight might not going to happen until it was too late.

And it seems that Crawford will have to sit because of this one:

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Terence Crawford has filed a lawsuit against his former promoter Bob Arum’s Top Rank, in which he’s alleged that ‘revolting racial bias’ prevented him from securing big fights and earning millions of dollars.

https://talksport.com/sport/1022645/bob-arum-terence-crawford-lawsuit-top-rank/
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Blair Cobbs makes prediction for Errol Spence Jr. vs. Yordenis Ugas

About a week ago, WBC-NABF welterweight champion Blair Cobbs shared his prediction on this upcoming fight between Errol Spence Jr and Yordenis Ugas.

He sides on Ugas to win this match as he sees Spence doesn't have that usual fighting spirit anymore compared to his previous fights. I don't know what he meant for that tough. He also shared the ring with Ugas and maybe already sees the style that can match Spence Jr. He also showed interest in betting money with Ugas to support his stand.

Out of topic but Cobbs has a scheduled fight 2 days from now.

Hmm, not sure what he was talking as well, but maybe the lost layoff of Spence might be a big factor that's why he sided on Ugas on this one.

Good if he can back up his talk on supporting Ugas on this fight, he is the underdog so it's going to be a winfall if Ugas win. So different opinions on this fight, a lot of good points that we can't really take into account before making out bet.
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

I think the main concern relies on the purse split why Spence seems to avoid Crawford. A 50-50 split is not making sense for Spence.

The reason? Between him and Crawford, the former seems the one that will make the possible fight profitable. He is a much-considered King of PPV compared to Crawford and that was proven already.

Maybe a 60-40 should be fine but I don't know if Crawford will like that idea.

Also another concern is the pot might not be very big enough for Spencer to accept Terence Crawford's challenge. As I mentioned before, Errol Spence Jr. is using a similar tactic as Floyd Mayweather where he will so no until the money is right for him to say yes. My only hope is they will not be old before they say yes similar to Amir Khan versus Kell Brook hehe.

I don't think there will be no money in this fight, there will be enough for both, biggest paycheck ever for anyone of them. The hype is still there specially if Spence bet Ugas in his fight. Crawford has been calling him for quite sometime now, it's up to Spence to response back to make this fight happen. We don't want to see him on the downturn of their career before facing each other. It should be in their primes, in the next 2 years.

I never told everyone that there will be no money for Spence versus Crawford, however, it would be very wrong to assume that there will be enough money on offer for 1 of the fighters. I am implying Errol Spence might want more than how much is on offer for him to fight the other king of the welterweight division. This is happening very much similar to Mayweather vs. Pacquiao. There were offers proposed for Mayweather, however, he rejected them because he was very certain the next offer would be bigger. He waited until he thought it was the biggest offer possible from the promoters. I reckon Spence is also waiting for the biggest offer that he speculates would be the biggest possible from the promoters.
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Blair Cobbs makes prediction for Errol Spence Jr. vs. Yordenis Ugas

About a week ago, WBC-NABF welterweight champion Blair Cobbs shared his prediction on this upcoming fight between Errol Spence Jr and Yordenis Ugas.

He sides on Ugas to win this match as he sees Spence doesn't have that usual fighting spirit anymore compared to his previous fights. I don't know what he meant for that tough. He also shared the ring with Ugas and maybe already sees the style that can match Spence Jr. He also showed interest in betting money with Ugas to support his stand.

Out of topic but Cobbs has a scheduled fight 2 days from now.

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True! Spence should refrain from being too confident on Ugas because he might suddenly gets overwhelmed, we don't know as everything is possible and it's better to be safe and cautious if he still wants a bigger slice on taking his next fight against Crawford. Just saying though!

Ring rust shouldn't be a problem to Spence, he just needs to train and prepare harder to avoid being rusty in the ring. Even Thurman avoided it so Spence here can also do that.

I don't think that Spence will be too much confidence. Once he stepped on the ring, he knows that he needs to win. He knows the capability of Ugas and even he thinks that he can surely dominate him, he will always be serious. Just imagining what he will lose when he is defeated by Ugas will make him more dedicated to winning the fight.

An upset loss will make him feel downed. He will also lose his hold titles. The expected big money he can bring home once he is faced with Crawford will also gone.

Spence has lots of things on his shoulder that will boost his strength mentally and physically. Ugas is like facing a big wall here but there's always a chance for an upset. They are all both dedicated to winning this match.

Thinking about the possible consequences of losing this fight to Ugas will change the course of his boxing career.
So yes, I don't think he is taking this fight lightly. But for sure, both camps will be in serious training here.
There are belts that are at stake and of course their future careers are on the line.
This I believe, is one of the fights for this year that boxing fans are looking forward to.
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True! Spence should refrain from being too confident on Ugas because he might suddenly gets overwhelmed, we don't know as everything is possible and it's better to be safe and cautious if he still wants a bigger slice on taking his next fight against Crawford. Just saying though!

Ring rust shouldn't be a problem to Spence, he just needs to train and prepare harder to avoid being rusty in the ring. Even Thurman avoided it so Spence here can also do that.

I don't think that Spence will be too much confidence. Once he stepped on the ring, he knows that he needs to win. He knows the capability of Ugas and even he thinks that he can surely dominate him, he will always be serious. Just imagining what he will lose when he is defeated by Ugas will make him more dedicated to winning the fight.

An upset loss will make him feel downed. He will also lose his hold titles. The expected big money he can bring home once he is faced with Crawford will also gone.

Spence has lots of things on his shoulder that will boost his strength mentally and physically. Ugas is like facing a big wall here but there's always a chance for an upset. They are all both dedicated to winning this match.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.

True! Spence should refrain from being too confident on Ugas because he might suddenly gets overwhelmed, we don't know as everything is possible and it's better to be safe and cautious if he still wants a bigger slice on taking his next fight against Crawford. Just saying though!

Ring rust shouldn't be a problem to Spence, he just needs to train and prepare harder to avoid being rusty in the ring. Even Thurman avoided it so Spence here can also do that.
Actually depends on a fighters dedication and passion for the sport because you wouldn't let that ring rust will really affect you despite on having no fight for too long.

You would see on whose the one who had been maintaining his body or not.Also, being too confident and trusting up too much on his skills and power would really be having that risks.
You wouldnt be having that win anytime or from time to time and always consider that theres someone on this world which is better than you.  Wink
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.

True! Spence should refrain from being too confident on Ugas because he might suddenly gets overwhelmed, we don't know as everything is possible and it's better to be safe and cautious if he still wants a bigger slice on taking his next fight against Crawford. Just saying though!

Ring rust shouldn't be a problem to Spence, he just needs to train and prepare harder to avoid being rusty in the ring. Even Thurman avoided it so Spence here can also do that.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
For sure there are some ring rust, but knowing how good Spence is, it should not be a big disadvantage for him because he already did that in the past when he met a car accident, came back, and beat Shawn Porter. IMO, Shawn Porter is even better than Ugas based on their previous fight.

I believe this will only happen if the fighter is out of his prime but since Spence still on his best shape then provably he will make the life of Ugas hard on this fight. But I don't agree on what he is doing now by thinking his next opponent since its like he's downplaying this fight and think about he can defeat Ugas on this match. Maybe he need to stay focus on the fight and forget other things so that he can make sure that he is on his best shape on their fight night.


In some sense, it's just showing his confidence or he just trying to be inspired, thinking that the next fight is bigger than this one.

If he beats Ugas, the next one to accomplish is Crawford, and that might really be a good inspiration to think ahead, but likewise

focusing first on this upcoming fight is needed. We never know what preparation Ugas is undergoing by now to be more prepared

once the fight takes place.


Beating Ugas is not a problem for Spence, however, fighting Crawford is a different story as these fighters have not reached an agreement that they will fight despite the fact that they can unify and could make a lot of money for the big fight. Seems like one is challenging but the other is a dodging a fighter, don't know who is telling the truth, so I would just watch and not speculate too much of this happening.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
For sure there are some ring rust, but knowing how good Spence is, it should not be a big disadvantage for him because he already did that in the past when he met a car accident, came back, and beat Shawn Porter. IMO, Shawn Porter is even better than Ugas based on their previous fight.

I believe this will only happen if the fighter is out of his prime but since Spence still on his best shape then provably he will make the life of Ugas hard on this fight. But I don't agree on what he is doing now by thinking his next opponent since its like he's downplaying this fight and think about he can defeat Ugas on this match. Maybe he need to stay focus on the fight and forget other things so that he can make sure that he is on his best shape on their fight night.


In some sense, it's just showing his confidence or he just trying to be inspired, thinking that the next fight is bigger than this one.

If he beats Ugas, the next one to accomplish is Crawford, and that might really be a good inspiration to think ahead, but likewise

focusing first on this upcoming fight is needed. We never know what preparation Ugas is undergoing by now to be more prepared

once the fight takes place.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
For sure there are some ring rust, but knowing how good Spence is, it should not be a big disadvantage for him because he already did that in the past when he met a car accident, came back, and beat Shawn Porter. IMO, Shawn Porter is even better than Ugas based on their previous fight.

I believe this will only happen if the fighter is out of his prime but since Spence still on his best shape then provably he will make the life of Ugas hard on this fight. But I don't agree on what he is doing now by thinking his next opponent since its like he's downplaying this fight and think about he can defeat Ugas on this match. Maybe he need to stay focus on the fight and forget other things so that he can make sure that he is on his best shape on their fight night.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
For sure there are some ring rust, but knowing how good Spence is, it should not be a big disadvantage for him because he already did that in the past when he met a car accident, came back, and beat Shawn Porter. IMO, Shawn Porter is even better than Ugas based on their previous fight.
This kind of thing of course has been realized by Spence and the coach himself and surely they have anticipated this by honing Spence's Performance with practice and I personally feel this is not a very big problem.
He is a great boxer and everyone already knows that there is no way a trivial thing like this will interfere with his career especially hindering a big fight like this.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
For sure there are some ring rust, but knowing how good Spence is, it should not be a big disadvantage for him because he already did that in the past when he met a car accident, came back, and beat Shawn Porter. IMO, Shawn Porter is even better than Ugas based on their previous fight.

The formula is very simple, Porter beat Ugas, Spence beat Porter, so the answer is SPENCE WINS.

No more complicating things, we know who is the better fighter here and if Ugas wins, we call it as an upset although they bought hold a belt and it's a unification fight, it's just that Spence is a more quality fighter and he is the more popular.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
For sure there are some ring rust, but knowing how good Spence is, it should not be a big disadvantage for him because he already did that in the past when he met a car accident, came back, and beat Shawn Porter. IMO, Shawn Porter is even better than Ugas based on their previous fight.
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^^ Spence should really be careful and not to take Ugas lightly because who knows, ring rust might affect Spence here and it might be too late before he can recover from that as Ugas might piled in points early on him. So still one month to go before the fight, just enough for them to really unwind their training for this big fight. Boxing media has started to pick up as well with Spence interviews here and there.
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You're exactly right about that, we can only speculate what is likely to happen this May but we can't ever conclude the exact thing unless these two are finish fighting in the ring. The one who prepared the most only increases his chances to win, it doesn't mean that it is already sure because if that's the measurement there's no need to fight.


Hahaha Grin more on the actual scene when these two champs meet inside the ring, all the hard work and preparations will be decided when each of them start throwing punches, the one who's eager to win will shine and if a lucky KO punch landed, it will be a sure win for him. Let's wait and see how both gentlemen will end this fight up.

Spence and Ugas are both known for this division. They've got the belt to stake, and it's a winner takes all fight.

Aside from the belts, there's also huge money behind and for sure that influence the most for both fighters in eagerly try to bring their best
inside the ring.

Fame and glory of course which is just typical or normal thing that they are tending to acquire on winning up their fights.The stronger guy would win but we couldnt really
just ignore the possibilities of some another upset made by Ugas but just like been said, they would be trying out their best inside the canvass.
Based up on the schedule, this fight would be happening tomorrow?

You're right about that! Spence has the higher hand, we cannot doubt that but he still needs to be careful on getting aggressive because Ugas has a history about that, just like what he did to Manny Pacquiao. Well, it's not that I'm compare spence to the old man who's already retired but he still should be cautious about it especially now that Ugas got some good time to prepare.
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You're exactly right about that, we can only speculate what is likely to happen this May but we can't ever conclude the exact thing unless these two are finish fighting in the ring. The one who prepared the most only increases his chances to win, it doesn't mean that it is already sure because if that's the measurement there's no need to fight.


Hahaha Grin more on the actual scene when these two champs meet inside the ring, all the hard work and preparations will be decided when each of them start throwing punches, the one who's eager to win will shine and if a lucky KO punch landed, it will be a sure win for him. Let's wait and see how both gentlemen will end this fight up.

Spence and Ugas are both known for this division. They've got the belt to stake, and it's a winner takes all fight.

Aside from the belts, there's also huge money behind and for sure that influence the most for both fighters in eagerly try to bring their best
inside the ring.

Fame and glory of course which is just typical or normal thing that they are tending to acquire on winning up their fights.The stronger guy would win but we couldnt really
just ignore the possibilities of some another upset made by Ugas but just like been said, they would be trying out their best inside the canvass.
Based up on the schedule, this fight would be happening tomorrow?
No, it would be still having 1 month to go before this fight happens and im sure that you had just overlook on tomorrows date and month.  Cheesy
It would be on April 16 https://www.maxboxing.com/news/news/its-on-errol-spence-jr-vs-yordenis-ugas-april-16
So better mark that calendar of yours.

He might have mistaken this month as April and because it's 16th of the month. Relax mate, we all are excited about this fight as well so better lock on your bets if you haven't bet yet. Surely this year of 2022 have a lots of interesting fights and almost of all the fights have big names on it just like this one.
For me, I'm a straight Spence.
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You're exactly right about that, we can only speculate what is likely to happen this May but we can't ever conclude the exact thing unless these two are finish fighting in the ring. The one who prepared the most only increases his chances to win, it doesn't mean that it is already sure because if that's the measurement there's no need to fight.


Hahaha Grin more on the actual scene when these two champs meet inside the ring, all the hard work and preparations will be decided when each of them start throwing punches, the one who's eager to win will shine and if a lucky KO punch landed, it will be a sure win for him. Let's wait and see how both gentlemen will end this fight up.

Spence and Ugas are both known for this division. They've got the belt to stake, and it's a winner takes all fight.

Aside from the belts, there's also huge money behind and for sure that influence the most for both fighters in eagerly try to bring their best
inside the ring.

Fame and glory of course which is just typical or normal thing that they are tending to acquire on winning up their fights.The stronger guy would win but we couldnt really
just ignore the possibilities of some another upset made by Ugas but just like been said, they would be trying out their best inside the canvass.
Based up on the schedule, this fight would be happening tomorrow?
No, it would be still having 1 month to go before this fight happens and im sure that you had just overlook on tomorrows date and month.  Cheesy
It would be on April 16 https://www.maxboxing.com/news/news/its-on-errol-spence-jr-vs-yordenis-ugas-april-16
So better mark that calendar of yours.
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You're exactly right about that, we can only speculate what is likely to happen this May but we can't ever conclude the exact thing unless these two are finish fighting in the ring. The one who prepared the most only increases his chances to win, it doesn't mean that it is already sure because if that's the measurement there's no need to fight.


Hahaha Grin more on the actual scene when these two champs meet inside the ring, all the hard work and preparations will be decided when each of them start throwing punches, the one who's eager to win will shine and if a lucky KO punch landed, it will be a sure win for him. Let's wait and see how both gentlemen will end this fight up.

Spence and Ugas are both known for this division. They've got the belt to stake, and it's a winner takes all fight.

Aside from the belts, there's also huge money behind and for sure that influence the most for both fighters in eagerly try to bring their best
inside the ring.

Fame and glory of course which is just typical or normal thing that they are tending to acquire on winning up their fights.The stronger guy would win but we couldnt really
just ignore the possibilities of some another upset made by Ugas but just like been said, they would be trying out their best inside the canvass.
Based up on the schedule, this fight would be happening tomorrow?
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Too much speculation is not good, let's wait for the result of this fight, and let's see how Crawford and Spence would react to a possible big fight. AFAIK, Crawford is already willing to fight Spence, so if Spence would say no, people will lose respect for him as a champion.

for reference, ; https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/terence-crawford-calls-for-errol-spence-fight/206552

I think the main concern relies on the purse split why Spence seems to avoid Crawford. A 50-50 split is not making sense for Spence.

The reason? Between him and Crawford, the former seems the one that will make the possible fight profitable. He is a much-considered King of PPV compared to Crawford and that was proven already.

Maybe a 60-40 should be fine but I don't know if Crawford will like that idea.

Also another concern is the pot might not be very big enough for Spencer to accept Terence Crawford's challenge. As I mentioned before, Errol Spence Jr. is using a similar tactic as Floyd Mayweather where he will so no until the money is right for him to say yes. My only hope is they will not be old before they say yes similar to Amir Khan versus Kell Brook hehe.

I don't think there will be no money in this fight, there will be enough for both, biggest paycheck ever for anyone of them. The hype is still there specially if Spence bet Ugas in his fight. Crawford has been calling him for quite sometime now, it's up to Spence to response back to make this fight happen. We don't want to see him on the downturn of their career before facing each other. It should be in their primes, in the next 2 years.

Money won't be a problem for this two boxers, I bet the paycheck is still that big enough, if not the biggest paycheck and it can always grow as time passed by specifically if indeed Spence will defeat Ugas because as you said that the hype is still there.
It's also possible that Spence won't speak about the fight for now to increase the deal, and he'll use this as an advantage because Crawford is still calling and looking forward to have a fight with him. Nonetheless, I know that they will fight sooner.

I think the point is that who is going to get the most of the purse split? Yes, money is in the table, but you have to think that this athlete has some ego, they wanted to be the top dog of the fight and maybe Spence wanted to have like 60-40 on his favor against Crawford but Crawford doesn't want to give it to him. Doesn't matter if he don't want to speak to it in public, on the contrary, if he doesn't comment on it, boxing fans might think he is avoiding Crawford at all cost.

This is one of the most common problems in the boxing industry especially if both names that will face is known and famous, I reckon that this would take longer than expected because none of them are willing to take the 40% cut of the purse, but in the end if Crawford is really looking forward to make this match happen then I think he will get that 40% but for now he will just chase for it.
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