[Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 14.

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Quote from: Mahanton on March 22, 2022, 12:11:53 PM

For counting punching then Ugas is really capable on doing so and this man does really have also that stamina as we have seen on his past fights specially with that against MP.
Spence is a good technical boxer which he knows to adjust out and he wont really be that dumb to took the bait on what Ugas is really aiming or waiting for.
We dont know on what are the preparations in between boxers but this one would really be lasting on 12 rounds or till end which is somewhat i do expect or anticipate too.

I personally didn't see anything special in that match because technically he was against Manny who incidentally is a champion and can be said to be one of the best boxers but on the other hand what he fought was also an old boxer so of course the difference is visible but now it's different because of that. the opponent can be said to be quite balanced.
Even if Ugas is superior with the results of the previous match against Manny but still this will be the difference for Spence

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I guess we are only dealing here a pure speculation since after all both of them are strong, but what Ugas have is confidence as he came from a huge victory from a boxing legend.

For now of course, all we have is just speculation as this fight does not happen yet.

Ugas and Spence are both at their prime, so expect that it should be a big fight that would probably last 12 rounds.
I'm just hoping to see a KO but I'm okay with decision as long as they'll go toe to toe.

Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

For counting punching then Ugas is really capable on doing so and this man does really have also that stamina as we have seen on his past fights specially with that against MP.
Spence is a good technical boxer which he knows to adjust out and he wont really be that dumb to took the bait on what Ugas is really aiming or waiting for.
We dont know on what are the preparations in between boxers but this one would really be lasting on 12 rounds or till end which is somewhat i do expect or anticipate too.

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Quote from: ultrloa on March 22, 2022, 08:23:33 AM

I guess we are only dealing here a pure speculation since after all both of them are strong, but what Ugas have is confidence as he came from a huge victory from a boxing legend.

For now of course, all we have is just speculation as this fight does not happen yet.

Ugas and Spence are both at their prime, so expect that it should be a big fight that would probably last 12 rounds.
I'm just hoping to see a KO but I'm okay with decision as long as they'll go toe to toe.

Most probably the fight will end in 12 rounds. Ugas is not an aggressive fighter, he will just wait for Spence to attack so he can counter, and of course, Spence would also not gonna take that bait as we know how smart he is in the ring, so it will be a battle of scores per round, and I see that Spence has the edge on that.

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Quote from: ultrloa on March 22, 2022, 08:23:33 AM

I guess we are only dealing here a pure speculation since after all both of them are strong, but what Ugas have is confidence as he came from a huge victory from a boxing legend.

For now of course, all we have is just speculation as this fight does not happen yet.

Ugas and Spence are both at their prime, so expect that it should be a big fight that would probably last 12 rounds.
I'm just hoping to see a KO but I'm okay with decision as long as they'll go toe to toe.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 22, 2022, 08:02:36 AM

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People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

Well the bookies have listed Spence as the favorite rather than Ugas but that doesn't mean that the favorite will always be the winner and the underdog will always be the one to lose.

What I meant is the other half of the crowd are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and others are also speculating that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO, surely I haven't said that most of them are on Ugas's side like the what you've said.

And it is really okay that you don't agree about Spence winning via KO, were just here to make some speculations. Chance are chances, no matter how slim that chances are. I'm just saying Grin

Let's just put our bet and at the end of the fight, we will know if we are right or wrong. Right now, we are just speculators of the fight, and since no one can ensure the outcome of the fight, then there's no right or wrong on our predictions.

That's pretty much better because too much speculations won't help us to decide which boxer we wanted to bet, just trust your own instincts. Either way, only one of them will be hailed winner because I think that a draw on this one ain't possible to happen and until the match has end, that's the time that we can figure out if our speculations were right or wrong.

There so many things to happen in regards with this fight so we might see Ugas to win or either Spence will upset Ugas on this fight so I guess we are only dealing here a pure speculation since after all both of them are strong, but what Ugas have is confidence as he came from a huge victory from a boxing legend.

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People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

Well the bookies have listed Spence as the favorite rather than Ugas but that doesn't mean that the favorite will always be the winner and the underdog will always be the one to lose.

What I meant is the other half of the crowd are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and others are also speculating that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO, surely I haven't said that most of them are on Ugas's side like the what you've said.

And it is really okay that you don't agree about Spence winning via KO, were just here to make some speculations. Chance are chances, no matter how slim that chances are. I'm just saying Grin

Let's just put our bet and at the end of the fight, we will know if we are right or wrong. Right now, we are just speculators of the fight, and since no one can ensure the outcome of the fight, then there's no right or wrong on our predictions.

That's pretty much better because too much speculations won't help us to decide which boxer we wanted to bet, just trust your own instincts. Either way, only one of them will be hailed winner because I think that a draw on this one ain't possible to happen and until the match has end, that's the time that we can figure out if our speculations were right or wrong.

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^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

True, his long layoff could play a factor, ring rust generally affected fighters. However, if Spence is the kind of fighter that is A-class, for sure he can overcome it in the first couple of rounds. He is still in his prime so this could have a little to no effect on him. And as he become confident in the ring with Ugas then we could see his old form, jab-jab (although both have good jab), and I think this will be one of the factors in this fight. If he could established his jab early and not let Ugas get's inside or counter, his chance to win will double.

He is an A-Plus fighter, we've seen him fight in the past when he fought Porter after he recovered from a car crash. So this fight should not be hard for him, besides, Porter IMO is better than Ugas because he won against him, so let's see how Ugas will prepare against Spence in this unification fight.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 21, 2022, 08:36:42 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 21, 2022, 07:06:46 AM

^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

True, his long layoff could play a factor, ring rust generally affected fighters. However, if Spence is the kind of fighter that is A-class, for sure he can overcome it in the first couple of rounds. He is still in his prime so this could have a little to no effect on him. And as he become confident in the ring with Ugas then we could see his old form, jab-jab (although both have good jab), and I think this will be one of the factors in this fight. If he could established his jab early and not let Ugas get's inside or counter, his chance to win will double.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 21, 2022, 09:17:09 PM

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Everything is going to depend on what he was doing during that time that he was outside the ring, if he was responsible and he maintained himself in shape and doing some light training then going back to his previous shape and improve significantly would be incredibly easy for him, and in such scenario getting a win over Ugas would be realistic for him. However if he did not trained at all during that time and he is only getting in shape now then Ugas may have a chance as Spence will not be as sharp as he usually is and his reflexes will not be the same.

Look on their social media, both were training himself, so it's expected the fight would be interesting. Perhaps Spence's right eye might will be his weakness and targeted by Ugas. Usually even the injury had been recovered, it will not fully 100% same like before... moreover it's a serious injury. It's really mournful to see someone attacking their opponent weakness, but it's a fight and each of them wanted to win as long as it's legal.

In boxing, where the weakest point is, the attack must be directed. Boxing is a negative sport in a way because the goal will always be to hurt the opponent as much as possible. So if the opponent has an old injury in the eye, he should be targeted there. If the opponent has a weak chin, the chin should be the primary target. If the opponent has a weaker, then body shots are expected. This has always been how boxing works. But since everybody is aware of that, all of them must have made preparations and adjustments for it. I know Spence is doing a lot of preparations also.

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Quote from: South Park on March 21, 2022, 02:13:06 PM

Everything is going to depend on what he was doing during that time that he was outside the ring, if he was responsible and he maintained himself in shape and doing some light training then going back to his previous shape and improve significantly would be incredibly easy for him, and in such scenario getting a win over Ugas would be realistic for him. However if he did not trained at all during that time and he is only getting in shape now then Ugas may have a chance as Spence will not be as sharp as he usually is and his reflexes will not be the same.

Look on their social media, both were training himself, so it's expected the fight would be interesting. Perhaps Spence's right eye might will be his weakness and targeted by Ugas. Usually even the injury had been recovered, it will not fully 100% same like before... moreover it's a serious injury. It's really mournful to see someone attacking their opponent weakness, but it's a fight and each of them wanted to win as long as it's legal.

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The fight of Spence was different compared to the Ugas.The game result is not an matter.The match played by both the team was the unique one.Everyone had a unique way of match.In a match both the players tried to win the game.But the fortunes was on the day of match.The Spence was the good player with a good physic.Since he had strong hand, he can easily do the defence.

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Quote from: Sanitough on March 21, 2022, 05:11:09 AM

Exactly, that's why this thread discussion is made. It is to throw some speculations and opinions on who will win in this match to help us give an idea on have the most probability in the fight but our speculations will be only answered after the fight announcer concludes the winner.

Almost all of us have a different point of view and while others may have share the same.

You may have your own preferences in how you assess this upcoming fight, or you have your own favorite fighter that you really supporting, same deal with other people around, this open discussion could give us ideas on how to project the possible winner, but the conclusion will remain the same, until the announcer announce who win the fight everything that we discuss here are all speculations.

It will be reviewed once the fight is over. It's just sharing your sentiments and how you want to see the possible
outcome but nothing is precise till the day comes and these two fighters met inside the ring.

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^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

Everything is going to depend on what he was doing during that time that he was outside the ring, if he was responsible and he maintained himself in shape and doing some light training then going back to his previous shape and improve significantly would be incredibly easy for him, and in such scenario getting a win over Ugas would be realistic for him. However if he did not trained at all during that time and he is only getting in shape now then Ugas may have a chance as Spence will not be as sharp as he usually is and his reflexes will not be the same.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 21, 2022, 08:36:42 AM

Quote from: btc_angela on March 21, 2022, 07:06:46 AM

^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

Ring rust? It would be easy to recondition out himself via training which it wouldn't be hard because i dont see for it to be that a big effect even if he had no fights on past years which he could still make out some

reconditioning and would back on track just like traditional ways and i couldn't blame out people on minding or thinking about possible upset because Ugas could really have having a shot on this one.
Chances are slim but it is really having that kind of probability thats why they've been thinking about that particular situation to happen.

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Quote from: freedomgo on March 21, 2022, 08:36:42 AM

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve.

The comparison above is more dominant for Ugas because he feels very confident after defeating Manny Pacquiao, while Spence only trained backstage and never felt the thrill of fighting in the ring after an eye injury, Spence had to come back fully prepared and endure the opponent's challenges of a unified champions. It looks like Ugas rating has improved in the last few fights, but that's not enough to face Spence having returned to fighting in the ring. My prediction, this match will have the potential to be a knockout because both have hard punches to stop the match for an absolute win.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 21, 2022, 07:06:46 AM

^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

The only weakness I see for Spence is that he was inactive for over a year, while Ugas was actively fighting and continues to train hard to improve. Well, on paper, it's really Spence who has the advantage, the record comparison alone made us easily decide who is better. However, this time, both are champions fighting for a chance to be a unified champion, it should be an intense fight.

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^^ Right, I think only few people are expecting an upset in this fight. Spence is the favorite for nothing, although Ugas seems to be a formidable opponent in paper and both have their advantages and disadvantages, Spence is about a complete fighter as we can get in the welterweight division. Tall, power in both hands, tight defense, ring IQ. Ugas is a good fighter, no question about it, but Spence is going to beat him in my opinion.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2022, 09:48:11 PM

Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

It's understandable that Ugas will remain as an underdog, however, that 4:1 odds for him is quite undervalued for him. I would understand if it's 3:1, but 4:1, I think that is just too much, and with that said, I might consider betting on Ugas. Who knows, upset could happen anytime.

Yeah, that is a huge underdog odds if it is 4:1 for Ugas. And this could influence bettors who are not a fan, but a pure gambler to just put money on him because of the possibility of an upset. And it seems that Spence is very confident that he will beat Ugas, so who knows, that confidence might fall through and the unexpected happen, bring huge profits to those who take the risk.

I'm quite sure there will be people who's gonna take the risk. The odds really tells how much of an underdog Ugas is, but some people's speculations might be a bit different because the upset percentage is quite higher than most of the underdogs in boxing history.
Though a lot of people are speculating for an upset, but the odds stays what it is.
This fight will going to be exciting for sure.

That's for sure, although Ugas had 4 loses in his career, but he was never knockout on that loses, so expect that the fight might reach 12 rounds because Ugas will stay in front of Spence and fight until the end.

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Especially when more people are expecting an upset lol.

I guess only few people are expecting an upset.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on March 20, 2022, 11:44:38 AM

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 19, 2022, 09:48:11 PM

Ugas is 4:1 underdog still. Very good and attractive odds at this point.

It's understandable that Ugas will remain as an underdog, however, that 4:1 odds for him is quite undervalued for him. I would understand if it's 3:1, but 4:1, I think that is just too much, and with that said, I might consider betting on Ugas. Who knows, upset could happen anytime.

Yeah, that is a huge underdog odds if it is 4:1 for Ugas. And this could influence bettors who are not a fan, but a pure gambler to just put money on him because of the possibility of an upset. And it seems that Spence is very confident that he will beat Ugas, so who knows, that confidence might fall through and the unexpected happen, bring huge profits to those who take the risk.

I'm quite sure there will be people who's gonna take the risk. The odds really tells how much of an underdog Ugas is, but some people's speculations might be a bit different because the upset percentage is quite higher than most of the underdogs in boxing history.
Though a lot of people are speculating for an upset, but the odds stays what it is.
This fight will going to be exciting for sure. Especially when more people are expecting an upset lol.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 19, 2022, 08:24:35 AM

People are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and the others were also saying that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO.

If the crowd really speculate Ugas will win against Spence, surely bookies will listed the fight where Ugas is the favorited... but the fact he's an underdog. It means the crowd is still on Spence's side not Ugas.

I could accept the speculation Ugas will upset Spence, but I don't agree if Spence will won via KO as we know Ugas do have good defensive style.

Well the bookies have listed Spence as the favorite rather than Ugas but that doesn't mean that the favorite will always be the winner and the underdog will always be the one to lose.

What I meant is the other half of the crowd are speculating that Ugas will upset Spence and others are also speculating that Spence will defeat Ugas via KO, surely I haven't said that most of them are on Ugas's side like the what you've said.

And it is really okay that you don't agree about Spence winning via KO, were just here to make some speculations. Chance are chances, no matter how slim that chances are. I'm just saying Grin

Let's just put our bet and at the end of the fight, we will know if we are right or wrong. Right now, we are just speculators of the fight, and since no one can ensure the outcome of the fight, then there's no right or wrong on our predictions.

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