[Boxing] John Riel Casimero vs. Saul Sanchez - October 13 - page 13.

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Quote from: Natalim on August 29, 2024, 09:38:29 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on August 29, 2024, 01:05:18 AM

Casimero is now more of a Jake Paul, YouTuber first boxer second rather than a boxer who also happens to have a YouTube channel. It seems what's left of Casimero today is his loud mouth. I hope I'm wrong.

You will be wrong.

IMO, Casimero is still a great fighter, but he's been unlucky in the past with some of his fights ending in no contest or a draw. However, I'm sure this time will be different since Saul Sanchez is not Japanese, so he won't try to fake anything like being good at acting. Also, the ref might be fairer this time, so we have a decent chance of seeing Casimero win via knockout. Hopefully, if Casimero is interviewed and challenges Inoue, we'll hear an answer of YES.

Then we'd be both happy if I'm wrong.

Casimero isn't unlucky. He was lucky, on the contrary. He was provided with great opportunities. He was granted great fights. The problem is that he wasted them all. He missed them because of sheer arrogance, unprofessionalism, carelessness, negligence, and so on.

Beating Sanchez doesn't automatically make him a worthy opponent of Inoue. Who is Sanchez, after all? Was he even a world champion? Do you think a 10-rounder victory against a nobody makes Inoue notice him?

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Quote from: Darker45 on August 29, 2024, 01:05:18 AM

Casimero is now more of a Jake Paul, YouTuber first boxer second rather than a boxer who also happens to have a YouTube channel. It seems what's left of Casimero today is his loud mouth. I hope I'm wrong.

You will be wrong.

IMO, Casimero is still a great fighter, but he's been unlucky in the past with some of his fights ending in no contest or a draw. However, I'm sure this time will be different since Saul Sanchez is not Japanese, so he won't try to fake anything like being good at acting. Also, the ref might be fairer this time, so we have a decent chance of seeing Casimero win via knockout. Hopefully, if Casimero is interviewed and challenges Inoue, we'll hear an answer of YES.

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Quote from: TravelMug on August 29, 2024, 01:09:48 AM

Even if he knocks out Saul Sanchez, I do not think that Inoue will be interested on him anymore. Naoya even skip Murodjon Akhmadaliev, a much tougher opponent than Inoue if I'm not mistaken.

Naoya just wanted a easy last fight at super bantamweight that's why he chooses TJ as his last. So even Casimero wins, Inoue will move up in weight class. It will be good for this contender though as all the belts are going to be open and maybe for the last time, Casimero will become a champion at super bantamweight.

Boxing fans will be intrigued and there will be hanging questions about what will be the outcome if the fight between Casimero and Inoue materializes, so it will just fuel the discussion between the two, Casimero is pressured to win this fight and he must win it dramatically like knocking him out in the early rounds.
Because he's been bragging that he can beat and knock out Inoue, he will end up a laughing stock if he has a hard time against Saul who is considered not on his level.
If Inoue leaves the Super Welterweight and Casimero has a good showing in this fight he might end up ruling this division, so the discussion between the two will continue if this scenario happens.

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Quote from: Darker45 on August 29, 2024, 01:05:18 AM

I don't know if this is even worth discussing about, especially if we don't drag along the name of Naoya. If there isn't a thread here dedicated to the next fights of the likes of Caleb Plant, for example, or Danny Garcia, then perhaps Casimero's 10-rounder comeback is also not that interesting.

Casimero is now more of a Jake Paul, YouTuber first boxer second rather than a boxer who also happens to have a YouTube channel. It seems what's left of Casimero today is his loud mouth. I hope I'm wrong.

We should, he happens to be a three-division World Champion and a Hall of Famer candidate and he hasn't lost a fight for seven years its just his clowning attitude that made him get away from the spotlight but an old Casimero is capable of beating any champion.

This is going to be an easy fight for Casimero provided that he gets back to his old form, I have seen his form last month and he has a very big belly, overweight and loves to eat a lot of carbo, but if he cannot get back his old fighting form this could become a disaster for Casimero.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 29, 2024, 12:06:30 AM

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if Casimero has any hope of getting a fight against Naoya Inoue, he will have to win impressively by knockout against this opponent who is coming up in weight.

If Casimero could knockout Saul Sanchez then the talks of him fighting Inoue in the future will be back again but with his recent performance i doubt he could deliver an impressive performance against a former title contender considering that Casimero has been out of the ring for almost a year, ring rust may be a factor here.

Even if he knocks out Saul Sanchez, I do not think that Inoue will be interested on him anymore. Naoya even skip Murodjon Akhmadaliev, a much tougher opponent than Inoue if I'm not mistaken.

Naoya just wanted a easy last fight at super bantamweight that's why he chooses TJ as his last. So even Casimero wins, Inoue will move up in weight class. It will be good for this contender though as all the belts are going to be open and maybe for the last time, Casimero will become a champion at super bantamweight.

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I don't know if this is even worth discussing about, especially if we don't drag along the name of Naoya. If there isn't a thread here dedicated to the next fights of the likes of Caleb Plant, for example, or Danny Garcia, then perhaps Casimero's 10-rounder comeback is also not that interesting.

Casimero is now more of a Jake Paul, YouTuber first boxer second rather than a boxer who also happens to have a YouTube channel. It seems what's left of Casimero today is his loud mouth. I hope I'm wrong.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 28, 2024, 12:23:25 PM

if Casimero has any hope of getting a fight against Naoya Inoue, he will have to win impressively by knockout against this opponent who is coming up in weight.

If Casimero could knockout Saul Sanchez then the talks of him fighting Inoue in the future will be back again but with his recent performance i doubt he could deliver an impressive performance against a former title contender considering that Casimero has been out of the ring for almost a year, ring rust may be a factor here.

So true, Casimero is not getting any younger and then when we moves up to 122 lbs, his power is no longer there and although before we love to see him against Inoue, but this version of Inoue is very hard to defeat.

And if in any case Inoue goes up in another weight class, then say goodbye to that dreams of Casimero. It's lucky that Casimero was able to be awarded of another fight for this year, his career really make a downward spiral when he severe his ties with MP promotions and then take a Japanese manager.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 28, 2024, 12:23:25 PM

if Casimero has any hope of getting a fight against Naoya Inoue, he will have to win impressively by knockout against this opponent who is coming up in weight.

If Casimero could knockout Saul Sanchez then the talks of him fighting Inoue in the future will be back again but with his recent performance i doubt he could deliver an impressive performance against a former title contender considering that Casimero has been out of the ring for almost a year, ring rust may be a factor here.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 28, 2024, 12:23:25 PM

The fight will be in Japan and if Casimero has any hope of getting a fight against Naoya Inoue, he will have to win impressively by knockout against this opponent who is coming up in weight.

I doubt doing that would even make Inoue's team notice him last time I heard, Inoue's had lost interest with Casimero. As much as I like Casimero I feel like he lost his momentum and this 1 year break and his age doesn't really help him. if he wants to be considered as a potential challenger to Inoue he would need to fight more boxers. anyway, despite all I said I still hope he wins this fight.

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After a year of being inactive, John Riel Casimero will make his return to the ring against former title challenger Saul Sanchez. Sanchez is ranked #13 and #8 by the WBC and WBO in the bantamweight division. Earlier this year, he lost a majority decision to Jason Moloney. He is a decent quality fringe contender. The fight will be in Japan and if Casimero has any hope of getting a fight against Naoya Inoue, he will have to win impressively by knockout against this opponent who is coming up in weight.

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