Knowing that Casimero has been on hiatus for a year is unexpected. At least this would be a test for the fighters to see how they would do in the fight. I think Sanchez is trying to make a name for himself and show Casimero that he is still in the game.
I think Sanchez can pull it off, knowing he has the determination and youth to pull off an upset.
Topic: [Boxing] John Riel Casimero vs. Saul Sanchez - October 13 - page 4. (Read 1331 times)
He is more active on taunting rather than his boxing career because he is so full of pride even though he still didn’t beat Naoya.
I mean, that is the only thing that he has right now, he lost his belt because he couldn't pass the weigh-in and in result Inoue's camp lost interest on fighting him. to be honest if he really wanted to fight Inoue he would do everything to rise again and force Inoue's camp to notice him but base on what he was doing it looks like he only wants to taunt Inoue to stay relevant.I started to hate this guy when he wish to lose fellow boxer Tapales against Naoya just to bpast that he is the only one who can beat Naoya.
I must have missed this or forgotten about it, I only remember him bragging about easily winning by betting on Inoue.I will go for Sanchez since Casimero training is not that intense due to his bad life style during his inactivity.
I am curious how Sanchez will fare against Casimero, I mean despite Casimero's inactivity he probably still has power on his punches. 
I’m a Filipino but I hate Casimero attitude considering the downfall of his career due to his inactivity. He is more active on taunting rather than his boxing career because he is so full of pride even though he still didn’t beat Naoya.
I started to hate this guy when he wish to lose fellow boxer Tapales against Naoya just to bpast that he is the only one who can beat Naoya. On this match, I will go for Sanchez since Casimero training is not that intense due to his bad life style during his inactivity.
His previous match already show hint on what he is capable now.
I started to hate this guy when he wish to lose fellow boxer Tapales against Naoya just to bpast that he is the only one who can beat Naoya. On this match, I will go for Sanchez since Casimero training is not that intense due to his bad life style during his inactivity.
His previous match already show hint on what he is capable now.
So I guess we need to accept that fact that he might not be the same fighter. Although he chances are good against Sanchez, but against a rated boxer in this division, Casimero might have a hard time and who knows, he himself might end up in the canvass.
We can only conclude if he loses against a rated boxer. In the current situation, we can't say that because Casimero hasn't lost since he moved up to the current division. His wins might not impress us, but if he's given a chance to fight a champion, we might see him upset a favorite boxer like Inoue.
The discussion now is that Inoue is moving up, and Casimero might not have a chance to fight him. Despite that, many still want a Casimero vs. Inoue fight to happen. I think this isn't about whether he deserves it or not because, for sure, this fight will generate money. After all, boxing's primary purpose is business.
on which it is really just that too obvious that Casimero wont stand up a chance against Inoue frankly speaking. When it comes to technical,speed and power then we could be able to tell on whose the one
does have that advantage on which there's no way that Casimero would be able to have that chance. Now on this upcoming October against Saul then i cant even be sure that he would be able to beat him up easily.
For those Casimero fans out there, if this one turns out to be a loss of him then its better to stop on having those kind of hopes about beating up Inoue.
A bit off topic on here, i do see tons of reels this Casimero is really just that keeps on taunting up Inoue as if he had that capability on beating him up. All of those words
but not really that totally scary when inside the ring. The only i could obviously say or tell about Casimero's weakness is on that very short stamina.
So I guess we need to accept that fact that he might not be the same fighter. Although he chances are good against Sanchez, but against a rated boxer in this division, Casimero might have a hard time and who knows, he himself might end up in the canvass.
We can only conclude if he loses against a rated boxer. In the current situation, we can't say that because Casimero hasn't lost since he moved up to the current division. His wins might not impress us, but if he's given a chance to fight a champion, we might see him upset a favorite boxer like Inoue.
The discussion now is that Inoue is moving up, and Casimero might not have a chance to fight him. Despite that, many still want a Casimero vs. Inoue fight to happen. I think this isn't about whether he deserves it or not because, for sure, this fight will generate money. After all, boxing's primary purpose is business.
Casimero has indeed rested for time that can be said to be not short, but he seems to maintain his stamina while deciding to rest, now the fight is only about 1 month left and that can be used to recover and prepare for Casimero.
Both fighters also have an age difference of around 8 years and this is one of the problems that Casimero must overcome considering that Sanchez will be superior in stamina, but Casimero is more experienced and he can take advantage of every condition to take advantage of Sanchez weaknesses.
Both fighters also have an age difference of around 8 years and this is one of the problems that Casimero must overcome considering that Sanchez will be superior in stamina, but Casimero is more experienced and he can take advantage of every condition to take advantage of Sanchez weaknesses.
I would say that this might be his last chance to prove to us that he still has that killer instinct left in him, and he should win by KO. However, I'm already guessing what people will say after this fight, even if it ends in a KO win for Casimero. They might claim that his opponent wasn’t a quality fighter, which is why he won easily. I think the same goes for Inoue, who just recently beat his opponent, and fans didn’t get excited watching it.
He is in his mid-35 so the killer instinct in him might be gone, or slowly getting little by little as we all know that in this sports, when you age, if will really affect your performance. And so far when Casimero moves to 122 lbs, he hasn't win by knockout.
So I will agree, the window is closing and so this could be his last time to prove us that he can win via knockout and that he is still somewhat in his prime. Otherwise, if he shows nothing here in this fight, against a fighter that majority thinks he can knockout, then it might be over for him or at least he is no longer in his prime.
But this match against Sanchez maybe a deciding factor if he still have gas left to continue or he need to retire since if he lost against Sanchez for sure no boxing promoter will give him a big fight. That's why he need to perform more better compare to his last fight since he's so awful at that time and its like he's no stamina to continue which is common problem with Casimero.
Yes, and that is what I'm trying to say, at his age, it looks like he is on the decline as his fight in 122 lbs are not that impressive as per standard of Casimero's caliber. We still want to see him cracking his opponents and then putting them in the canvass for good.
So I guess we need to accept that fact that he might not be the same fighter. Although he chances are good against Sanchez, but against a rated boxer in this division, Casimero might have a hard time and who knows, he himself might end up in the canvass.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
I can't agree with you more on this mate, Casimero needs to win this fight to somewhat revive his career, win convincingly and perhaps he could land a championship fight next but a fight with Inoue is a slim possibility as Inoue has its own plan and Casimero's name was not on it.
Casimero’s ranking needs to improve for him to get a championship fight. For that to happen soon, Inoue would have to leave the division and move up, creating vacancies for fighters like Casimero to compete for a title. If Casimero really wants to retire as a champion and prove his doubters wrong, he needs to win all the belts and become an undisputed champion. Maybe, if Inoue struggles in the higher division, he might come back and fight Casimero as a challenger. I think it’s possible, but the chances are slim since Casimero isn’t getting any younger.
Inoue could have moved up after becoming the undisputed champion, but he chose to stay and defend his title, fighting two more boxers: Luis Nery and, most recently, TJ Doheny.
And if Inoue move up to 126 lbs, and become a undisputed champion, he will be the first one to do that. Although I would say that going up in weight and winning 8 division belt is harder to do and only Manny Pacquiao achieved that and it's a record that is hard to touch.
I don't think that there will be enough time for Casimero to unified the super bantamweight division. First, he is getting older already, so there is wear and tear and his punch output might not be the same when he is still in his prime dominating the bantamweight division. Second, there are a lot of good boxers and have the potential to become a champion if Inoue goes up in weight. So we don't know if Casimero can match with this big punchers as well to even win one of the belts. So the road for Casimero to be a champion again is closing out or getting thinner by the year. He is struggling and we don't know if he can keep up with the younger guys at 122 lbs and again, he hasn't had that one fight in this division that impresses us all.
Inoue did not spend much time becoming an undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division. If I'm not mistaken, it only took him two fights to achieve this. First, he fought Fulton, who was the champion at the time and came to Japan for the fight. Then, Inoue fought Marlon Tapales in the undisputed championship match. If Casimero follows a similar path, he could achieve the same kind success in this division.Inoue could have moved up after becoming the undisputed champion, but he chose to stay and defend his title, fighting two more boxers: Luis Nery and, most recently, TJ Doheny.
There's rumor say that he only pick those fights which he have huge chance to win. Then some boxing fans is not impressed on his win especially if he fight only in Japan. There's a rumor that next year Inoue will fight in US. But until there's no clear information or deal towards this plan I guess it will remain a rumor knowing Inoue seems like don't want to go outside Japan.
I doubt that Inoue is cherry picking though, those fighters are the best in his division and that's why he is fighting them. It looks like cherry picking because of how he dominates the fight, but we can't do anything about it.
But if he really allow to make it happen for sure lots of people would able to watch his fight since he's coming out on his comfort zone is one awaited events of boxing fans and lots people want to see if he perform the same even if he's not in his country. There's nothing left to defeat on his current division which is beneficial to them. So what Inoue provably do is he will go up and defeat his opponents then dominate again.
He had clean up the division, no more challenge for him, maybe except just one more fight at the end of the year and that is against Sam Goodman. And after that, everyone in the US, the fans are very excited to see him going there and fight. As who's the opponent? We really don't know. But if I'm not mistaken, there are a lot of 126 lbs under the stable of Top Rank that Inoue can fight in the US.
I don't think that there will be enough time for Casimero to unified the super bantamweight division. First, he is getting older already, so there is wear and tear and his punch output might not be the same when he is still in his prime dominating the bantamweight division. Second, there are a lot of good boxers and have the potential to become a champion if Inoue goes up in weight. So we don't know if Casimero can match with this big punchers as well to even win one of the belts. So the road for Casimero to be a champion again is closing out or getting thinner by the year. He is struggling and we don't know if he can keep up with the younger guys at 122 lbs and again, he hasn't had that one fight in this division that impresses us all.
Inoue did not spend much time becoming an undisputed champion in the super bantamweight division. If I'm not mistaken, it only took him two fights to achieve this. First, he fought Fulton, who was the champion at the time and came to Japan for the fight. Then, Inoue fought Marlon Tapales in the undisputed championship match. If Casimero follows a similar path, he could achieve the same kind success in this division.Inoue could have moved up after becoming the undisputed champion, but he chose to stay and defend his title, fighting two more boxers: Luis Nery and, most recently, TJ Doheny.
There's rumor say that he only pick those fights which he have huge chance to win. Then some boxing fans is not impressed on his win especially if he fight only in Japan. There's a rumor that next year Inoue will fight in US. But until there's no clear information or deal towards this plan I guess it will remain a rumor knowing Inoue seems like don't want to go outside Japan.
But if he really allow to make it happen for sure lots of people would able to watch his fight since he's coming out on his comfort zone is one awaited events of boxing fans and lots people want to see if he perform the same even if he's not in his country. There's nothing left to defeat on his current division which is beneficial to them. So what Inoue provably do is he will go up and defeat his opponents then dominate again.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
I can't agree with you more on this mate, Casimero needs to win this fight to somewhat revive his career, win convincingly and perhaps he could land a championship fight next but a fight with Inoue is a slim possibility as Inoue has its own plan and Casimero's name was not on it.
Casimero’s ranking needs to improve for him to get a championship fight. For that to happen soon, Inoue would have to leave the division and move up, creating vacancies for fighters like Casimero to compete for a title. If Casimero really wants to retire as a champion and prove his doubters wrong, he needs to win all the belts and become an undisputed champion. Maybe, if Inoue struggles in the higher division, he might come back and fight Casimero as a challenger. I think it’s possible, but the chances are slim since Casimero isn’t getting any younger.
Inoue could have moved up after becoming the undisputed champion, but he chose to stay and defend his title, fighting two more boxers: Luis Nery and, most recently, TJ Doheny.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
I can't agree with you more on this mate, Casimero needs to win this fight to somewhat revive his career, win convincingly and perhaps he could land a championship fight next but a fight with Inoue is a slim possibility as Inoue has its own plan and Casimero's name was not on it.
Casimero’s ranking needs to improve for him to get a championship fight. For that to happen soon, Inoue would have to leave the division and move up, creating vacancies for fighters like Casimero to compete for a title. If Casimero really wants to retire as a champion and prove his doubters wrong, he needs to win all the belts and become an undisputed champion. Maybe, if Inoue struggles in the higher division, he might come back and fight Casimero as a challenger. I think it’s possible, but the chances are slim since Casimero isn’t getting any younger.
People still hoping for a chance to see a Casimero vs Inoue fight which provably not gonna happen. There's lot of factor stop this and its clear that Inoue is not interested to fight Casimero anymore. Most likely they are targeting to go up since there are lots of exciting opponent to fight there. Also I guess Casimero will totally decline in terms of performance especially that he's aging. Provably there's 2 - 3 fights left in his stash and provably that will not go against Inoue. But what I want to see right now is Casimero to win against Sanchez he need to get a huge win for that fight since if he could able to knockout that guy maybe his name will be in good discussion again.
Casimero is now more of a Jake Paul, YouTuber first boxer second rather than a boxer who also happens to have a YouTube channel. It seems what's left of Casimero today is his loud mouth. I hope I'm wrong.
You will be wrong.
IMO, Casimero is still a great fighter, but he's been unlucky in the past with some of his fights ending in no contest or a draw. However, I'm sure this time will be different since Saul Sanchez is not Japanese, so he won't try to fake anything like being good at acting. Also, the ref might be fairer this time, so we have a decent chance of seeing Casimero win via knockout. Hopefully, if Casimero is interviewed and challenges Inoue, we'll hear an answer of YES.
The main key to every match is the referee, if the referee from the beginning and is known to cheat always supports one party then the match will be flawed.
I also hope Casimero says YES I am ready to compete
this will be an exciting match this year
Age is definitely a big factor, but I still don’t want to abandon my belief that Casimero can deliver an impressive result. I’m hopeful that Inoue will notice him and give him a chance to fight before he retires. We don’t want to keep speculating whether Inoue really dodged Casimero or if Casimero simply isn’t deserving of the opportunity. Inoue should respect what the fans want to see, and that’s for him to fight the boxer who has been paired with him for so long.
We will only know come fight night if Casimero is still the same fighter that terrorized 118 lbs division before and become a champion. Or simply him moving up to 122 lbs is too much for him as he looks like a regular guy in the super bantamweight while Inoue looks like the monster that we expect him to be.
So he shouldn't take this fight very light, because a upset lose will really dampen his career even more and that one fight that we wanted to see will not happen anymore. So he should focus in this fight and not talk about Inoue anymore. Or at least if he wins, then maybe in the post fight interview he could discussed a potential fight. However, Inoue is moving up in weight already and I do not see Casimero in his frame going as high as the featherweight division.
Judging by his past fights, we can be assured that he takes his matches seriously since he hasn’t experienced a loss in this division yet. It’s just that his wins haven’t been impressive, which is preventing him from getting bigger fights. Another possible reason could be the change in his promoter. 
I don't think that there will be enough time for Casimero to unified the super bantamweight division. First, he is getting older already, so there is wear and tear and his punch output might not be the same when he is still in his prime dominating the bantamweight division.
His last fight was against Yukinori Oguni and this was eleven months ago. He was still good on that fight but was halted because of an accidental headbut that declared the fight a draw, After a year, we still don't know if he still has it. His last two fights are very far from his old forms, so this is going to be an assessment fight for Casimero; he needs to show something to the boxing community.
Let's see if he can back up his words of claim that he is the one who can beat Inoue, for all we know, he just wants to make money out of Inoue and eventually retire.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
I can't agree with you more on this mate, Casimero needs to win this fight to somewhat revive his career, win convincingly and perhaps he could land a championship fight next but a fight with Inoue is a slim possibility as Inoue has its own plan and Casimero's name was not on it.
Casimero’s ranking needs to improve for him to get a championship fight. For that to happen soon, Inoue would have to leave the division and move up, creating vacancies for fighters like Casimero to compete for a title. If Casimero really wants to retire as a champion and prove his doubters wrong, he needs to win all the belts and become an undisputed champion. Maybe, if Inoue struggles in the higher division, he might come back and fight Casimero as a challenger. I think it’s possible, but the chances are slim since Casimero isn’t getting any younger.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
I can't agree with you more on this mate, Casimero needs to win this fight to somewhat revive his career, win convincingly and perhaps he could land a championship fight next but a fight with Inoue is a slim possibility as Inoue has its own plan and Casimero's name was not on it.
Casimero’s ranking needs to improve for him to get a championship fight. For that to happen soon, Inoue would have to leave the division and move up, creating vacancies for fighters like Casimero to compete for a title. If Casimero really wants to retire as a champion and prove his doubters wrong, he needs to win all the belts and become an undisputed champion. Maybe, if Inoue struggles in the higher division, he might come back and fight Casimero as a challenger. I think it’s possible, but the chances are slim since Casimero isn’t getting any younger.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
I can't agree with you more on this mate, Casimero needs to win this fight to somewhat revive his career, win convincingly and perhaps he could land a championship fight next but a fight with Inoue is a slim possibility as Inoue has its own plan and Casimero's name was not on it.
We will only know come fight night if Casimero is still the same fighter that terrorized 118 lbs division before and become a champion. Or simply him moving up to 122 lbs is too much for him as he looks like a regular guy in the super bantamweight while Inoue looks like the monster that we expect him to be.
So he shouldn't take this fight very light, because a upset lose will really dampen his career even more and that one fight that we wanted to see will not happen anymore. So he should focus in this fight and not talk about Inoue anymore. Or at least if he wins, then maybe in the post fight interview he could discussed a potential fight. However, Inoue is moving up in weight already and I do not see Casimero in his frame going as high as the featherweight division.
So he shouldn't take this fight very light, because a upset lose will really dampen his career even more and that one fight that we wanted to see will not happen anymore. So he should focus in this fight and not talk about Inoue anymore. Or at least if he wins, then maybe in the post fight interview he could discussed a potential fight. However, Inoue is moving up in weight already and I do not see Casimero in his frame going as high as the featherweight division.
There’s a lot to revive in Casimero’s career, and it will start with winning this fight. Otherwise, he might not get another chance. As we continue to hype the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, people will gradually become convinced that these two may not face each other in the future. While Inoue continues to enjoy his success, Casimero struggles to meet fans’ expectations despite his many wins.
Casimero has indeed rested for time that can be said to be not short, but he seems to maintain his stamina while deciding to rest, now the fight is only about 1 month left and that can be used to recover and prepare for Casimero.
Both fighters also have an age difference of around 8 years and this is one of the problems that Casimero must overcome considering that Sanchez will be superior in stamina, but Casimero is more experienced and he can take advantage of every condition to take advantage of Sanchez weaknesses.
Both fighters also have an age difference of around 8 years and this is one of the problems that Casimero must overcome considering that Sanchez will be superior in stamina, but Casimero is more experienced and he can take advantage of every condition to take advantage of Sanchez weaknesses.
I would say that this might be his last chance to prove to us that he still has that killer instinct left in him, and he should win by KO. However, I'm already guessing what people will say after this fight, even if it ends in a KO win for Casimero. They might claim that his opponent wasn’t a quality fighter, which is why he won easily. I think the same goes for Inoue, who just recently beat his opponent, and fans didn’t get excited watching it.
He is in his mid-35 so the killer instinct in him might be gone, or slowly getting little by little as we all know that in this sports, when you age, if will really affect your performance. And so far when Casimero moves to 122 lbs, he hasn't win by knockout.
So I will agree, the window is closing and so this could be his last time to prove us that he can win via knockout and that he is still somewhat in his prime. Otherwise, if he shows nothing here in this fight, against a fighter that majority thinks he can knockout, then it might be over for him or at least he is no longer in his prime.
Age is definitely a big factor, but I still don’t want to abandon my belief that Casimero can deliver an impressive result. I’m hopeful that Inoue will notice him and give him a chance to fight before he retires. We don’t want to keep speculating whether Inoue really dodged Casimero or if Casimero simply isn’t deserving of the opportunity. Inoue should respect what the fans want to see, and that’s for him to fight the boxer who has been paired with him for so long.
We will only know come fight night if Casimero is still the same fighter that terrorized 118 lbs division before and become a champion. Or simply him moving up to 122 lbs is too much for him as he looks like a regular guy in the super bantamweight while Inoue looks like the monster that we expect him to be.
So he shouldn't take this fight very light, because a upset lose will really dampen his career even more and that one fight that we wanted to see will not happen anymore. So he should focus in this fight and not talk about Inoue anymore. Or at least if he wins, then maybe in the post fight interview he could discussed a potential fight. However, Inoue is moving up in weight already and I do not see Casimero in his frame going as high as the featherweight division.
Yes, that true because if Casimero fails to win and can't fight well, then it clear that more people won't believe in him and he probably won't be able to get the fight he always wanted, even worse, Casimero won't be able to fight for the title in the future.
Whatever the result, the most important thing is that he must be able to show great fight, whether he wins or loses, there will always be negative statements about him because everyone must have their own favorite fighter.
I don't really care about what people out there will talk about because the most important thing in my opinion is that Casimero can fight like when he was young and at the peak of his glory with fighting style that seemed aggressive.
It been long time since we saw Casimero fight and his return to the ring is highlight for his fans.
There’s only one result that would put his name back in the discussion, and that’s if he wins by knockout. It would be even more impressive if he finishes the fight in less than three rounds, as that would spark speculation that Casimero still has his KO power. When that happens, people will start talking about a possible Inoue vs. Casimero fight, and hopefully, Inoue’s camp will make it happen. I don't really care about what people out there will talk about because the most important thing in my opinion is that Casimero can fight like when he was young and at the peak of his glory with fighting style that seemed aggressive.
It been long time since we saw Casimero fight and his return to the ring is highlight for his fans.
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