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Topic: [Boxing] John Riel Casimero vs. Saul Sanchez - October 13 - page 6. (Read 2635 times)

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As expected, Casimero is the favorite, but it's not that huge, and with that, I still think that Saul Sanchez has a good chance to pull a upset here if Casimero is not going to be very careful. Not sure about the weight, but hopefully Casimero can make it and he shouldn't have any problems about it as this fight is going to be big for him. I mean the pressure is on his fight to perform better and show us that he is still that Casimero we know that knockout his opponents in a impressive fashion.

Thanks for sharing the odds mate.

I’ll be betting on Casimero here, and those moneyline odds are already attractive to me. Casimero needs to focus on this fight and not look ahead to the future. He should forget about Inoue and concentrate on this match, as it’s a make-or-break fight for him. He doesn’t need a knockout win; an impressive decision victory would be enough for TBP to sign him to another contract.

Did you bet on Casimero already? There was a big swing in the odds as it is already 50:50,



So it's possible that if this trend continues, Casimero might be the underdog, although it's just a couple of days before the fight and there could be a big possibilities that there might not be a big swing.

Let's wait then for the fans of Casimero to pour their money on their boy, or at least get that betting favorite as far as ML goes.
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I’ll be betting on Casimero here, and those moneyline odds are already attractive to me.

Same here, I’m going with Casimero, but you can check other sportsbooks where Casimero is at 1.85, which is better than what was shared. This fight is on Sunday, and it’s great that we finally see odds that are really appealing. Since there are only a few top boxers left in the Philippines, it’ll be a while before we see these kinds of fights again, so I’m thinking of putting a significant amount on this one.
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As expected, Casimero is the favorite, but it's not that huge, and with that, I still think that Saul Sanchez has a good chance to pull a upset here if Casimero is not going to be very careful. Not sure about the weight, but hopefully Casimero can make it and he shouldn't have any problems about it as this fight is going to be big for him. I mean the pressure is on his fight to perform better and show us that he is still that Casimero we know that knockout his opponents in a impressive fashion.

Thanks for sharing the odds mate.

I’ll be betting on Casimero here, and those moneyline odds are already attractive to me. Casimero needs to focus on this fight and not look ahead to the future. He should forget about Inoue and concentrate on this match, as it’s a make-or-break fight for him. He doesn’t need a knockout win; an impressive decision victory would be enough for TBP to sign him to another contract.

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As expected, Casimero is the favorite, but it's not that huge, and with that, I still think that Saul Sanchez has a good chance to pull a upset here if Casimero is not going to be very careful. Not sure about the weight, but hopefully Casimero can make it and he shouldn't have any problems about it as this fight is going to be big for him. I mean the pressure is on his fight to perform better and show us that he is still that Casimero we know that knockout his opponents in a impressive fashion.

This is the fight that will summarize Casimero's venture to fight Inoue. if he wins this fight and he wins in a decisive fashion, expect Casimero to mention Inoue's name and possibly insult him, but even if he wins the fight and the fight turns out to be close, Inoue's camp will shut him down and tell him to do better, so the pressure is on Casimero to perform beyond what is expected of him.
And as for Sanchez, he knows Casimero's pressure to knock him down and he will be ready to do a counter and try to get the fight as close as possible and eventually steal the fight.
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I try to search for the latest update and this is what I found,



So not sure if this is true or not, but he still needs to lose about 4 lbs and hopefully he can still make the required weight without putting his body on a lot of stress. And we all know that he has history of not making weight, and going to sauna to sweat it out which is not healthy specially that it's the last week and everything could be perfectly align already but this time.

How reliable is that? I thought he was already comfortable in his current division since it was the weight issues that affected his career in bantamweight. Hopefully, those rumors are just false, and Casimero is 100% fit and ready for his upcoming fight. He’s been calling out Inoue, but if he’s still struggling with weight, it might explain why he’s not getting big fights. It's been a while since he fought in a championship match, and it makes you miss those days.

Not reliable, but still it is something that we need to look at. He could be comfortable at 122 lbs, but he still needs to go on a diet. He could be walking around 130 lbs in off-season or if he is not fighting and that is typical to a boxer as it's really hard to maintain their weight.

As for not getting big fights, one explanation is the lack of impressive performance from him and also his manager. He is no longer with MP that is manage by Sean Gibbons, and we all know that they have big connections as the man behind everything is Manny Pacquiao. And now that he is under a Japanese promoter and his fight at 122 lbs ended in controversial or he wasn't able to knockout his opponent, then big fights are not happening to him.
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As expected, Casimero is the favorite, but it's not that huge, and with that, I still think that Saul Sanchez has a good chance to pull a upset here if Casimero is not going to be very careful. Not sure about the weight, but hopefully Casimero can make it and he shouldn't have any problems about it as this fight is going to be big for him. I mean the pressure is on his fight to perform better and show us that he is still that Casimero we know that knockout his opponents in a impressive fashion.
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Thank you... yeah, Sunday’s going to be exciting! Hopefully, I can find some free streams online, though I’m expecting some interruptions like before. Fingers crossed, Casimero gets the win, and it’ll set him up for a great year, maybe even another fight before the year ends, you never know!

Probably we might see some free streams in Facebook, although not sure if there will be some coverage from Filipino channel. Although there could be some of our "kababayan", putting a link in here so that we can watch the fight live.

In any case, we are expecting that Casimero will win here and he could win impressively by knocking out his opponent Saul Sanchez. We are still awaiting for Casimero to show something at 122 lbs, in similar fashion when he just beat everyone at 118 lbs and become a champion by just destroying everyone along his path.
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Thank you... yeah, Sunday’s going to be exciting! Hopefully, I can find some free streams online, though I’m expecting some interruptions like before. Fingers crossed, Casimero gets the win, and it’ll set him up for a great year, maybe even another fight before the year ends, you never know!
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No more acting this time, please. In his previous fights, Casimero had some rough endings, with some bouts ending in no contest or a draw. We want to see him win decisively, control the fight, and finish it with a KO. However, let’s not expect that a win here will automatically make him the mandatory challenger as there’s already someone in that position. Maybe if he beats the mandatory challenger, then we can talk about him moving up to that spot.

Yeah, there’s none anymore since his opponent isn’t Japanese.

I tried checking the betting odds for you guys, but nothing’s available yet. How long do we have to wait? The fight’s in four days. By the way, where do you guys check for Casimero updates? I’ve seen some videos on Facebook shared by random users, just curious if there’s an actual site or page dedicated to tracking his current status.
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This is very important fight for Casimero, he wants to get the title back and he wants to be fighter who has the opportunity to be mandatory challenger for the title, with all this ambition then we will definitely see how Casimero fights very well.
No more acting this time, please. In his previous fights, Casimero had some rough endings, with some bouts ending in no contest or a draw. We want to see him win decisively, control the fight, and finish it with a KO. However, let’s not expect that a win here will automatically make him the mandatory challenger as there’s already someone in that position. Maybe if he beats the mandatory challenger, then we can talk about him moving up to that spot.
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IExperience is very helpful for Casimero and also the age difference of 7 years is not barrier for Casimero because it is not big difference and Casimero age is also still 35 years old which can conclude that it is not an old age for boxer, look at Canelo who is 34 years old can still fight very well even though lately he has become boxer who is not too admired because of his choice in determining opponents in each fight.
What is clear for this fight I tend to rely on Casimero to be able to win even though Sanchez is also not an easy opponent to be underestimated and defeated, we see how it will be in this fight because there is still little time for them to prepare.
Sanchez is far superior in body posture and has longer reach but if Casimero fights more dominantly for close range and presses by continuing to stick then it is likely that Casimero will have chance to get more opportunities to defeat Sanchez.
I get your point mate , this fight will be a tough one for both fighters. But I believe In that one year break casimero didn't sit down relaxing he would still do some training and stuff during the break , but still we can't tell who's going to win until the match . But casimero got to take this match seriously in order to climb back to the top.  Yeah the age difference is not that much , so doesn't actually matters that much what will actually matter that day is that the two fighter put up a nice fight
This is very important fight for Casimero, he wants to get the title back and he wants to be fighter who has the opportunity to be mandatory challenger for the title, with all this ambition then we will definitely see how Casimero fights very well.
I want to see Casimero can fight like when he fought Fillipus Nghitumbwa, in this fight also showed that Fillipus Nghitumbwa is much younger and the age difference is around 7 years but in reality Casimero can fight very dominantly and get an absolute victory.
We just see how the fight goes later, what is clear is that this fight must be won by Casimero if he wants to get back what he lost before, on the other hand Casimero also has target to be able to dominate again in the Batam Super class.
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I try to search for the latest update and this is what I found,



So not sure if this is true or not, but he still needs to lose about 4 lbs and hopefully he can still make the required weight without putting his body on a lot of stress. And we all know that he has history of not making weight, and going to sauna to sweat it out which is not healthy specially that it's the last week and everything could be perfectly align already but this time.

How reliable is that? I thought he was already comfortable in his current division since it was the weight issues that affected his career in bantamweight. Hopefully, those rumors are just false, and Casimero is 100% fit and ready for his upcoming fight. He’s been calling out Inoue, but if he’s still struggling with weight, it might explain why he’s not getting big fights. It's been a while since he fought in a championship match, and it makes you miss those days.

We really don't know, maybe it was just a rumor, or it could be true. But as I have said before in the other community, this might really be a big factor if he doesn't lose that extra pounds or if he will another sauna thing that he did when he was supposed to fight Butler but was caught by the British commission.

It will also be a surprised if Casimero is going to be the underdog here, he is well known fighter as compare to Sanchez.

But let's wait for casinos to released that odds, Casimero might be the slight favorite and we can only hope that he will perform better than his previous fight at super bantamweight and impressed us again.
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I try to search for the latest update and this is what I found,



So not sure if this is true or not, but he still needs to lose about 4 lbs and hopefully he can still make the required weight without putting his body on a lot of stress. And we all know that he has history of not making weight, and going to sauna to sweat it out which is not healthy specially that it's the last week and everything could be perfectly align already but this time.

How reliable is that? I thought he was already comfortable in his current division since it was the weight issues that affected his career in bantamweight. Hopefully, those rumors are just false, and Casimero is 100% fit and ready for his upcoming fight. He’s been calling out Inoue, but if he’s still struggling with weight, it might explain why he’s not getting big fights. It's been a while since he fought in a championship match, and it makes you miss those days.
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I try to search for the latest update and this is what I found,



So not sure if this is true or not, but he still needs to lose about 4 lbs and hopefully he can still make the required weight without putting his body on a lot of stress. And we all know that he has history of not making weight, and going to sauna to sweat it out which is not healthy specially that it's the last week and everything could be perfectly align already but this time.
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I'm not sure if what’s written here (https://champinon.info/schedule/casimero-vs-sanchez/#iw-modal) is accurate, Casimero seems to be the underdog at 2/1, while Sanchez is at 1/1...

I checked several sportsbooks, but none of the ones I’m using have the odds for this fight yet, so this is all we’ve got for now. I have a feeling, though, that these numbers aren’t quite right.
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@bisdak40. Who is the favorite for this fight? I cannot find the odds being offered. Did the sportsbooks forget to include this in their list or are they very much afraid that the underdog for this fight might win if Casimero is the favorite? Also, if I will bet Casimero, how much trust can you put in him against Saul Sanchez? Can we trust this Treasure Boxing promotion? The skeptical me is thinking that they might be fixing their fights.
I think Casimero will be the favorite, and if you have been betting in boxing for so long, we all know that fight that is big usually get the first listing in crypto base gambling sites. And unknown fights like this one usually is late, and they are going to list it a few days or even the fight day itself.

For Treasury Boxing, I think they are legit and I do not see any reason for them to fixed this fight or any fight under them for any matter. It's not like we are in 1960's wherein fights are fixed here and there because of the influence of Mafia. Treasury Boxing is Japanese, and we all know how discipline this race is, a simple accusations on their name, they really take it personally. So for me, there is nothing wrong that the odds are not released yet be it fiat or crypto based casinos.

I expect this to happen since Casimero is well known compare to Sanchez. So for sure that many bettors would provably go on Casimero side since they know how strong he is.

Its Treasure Boxing Promotion to be exact and yeah they seems to be legit and don't see any reason on why they do that since provably they will be in huge trouble if officials find out that there's something like that happen. Casimero's name is so hot and provably that lots of people watching this fight. Its hard to think about anomaly that possible to happen since for sure they won't ruined their name just for this matter. Also provably we can observe those things if something shady happen. Much better for now is to enjoy their possible match up then see the possible highlights of this event.
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@bisdak40. Who is the favorite for this fight? I cannot find the odds being offered. Did the sportsbooks forget to include this in their list or are they very much afraid that the underdog for this fight might win if Casimero is the favorite? Also, if I will bet Casimero, how much trust can you put in him against Saul Sanchez? Can we trust this Treasure Boxing promotion? The skeptical me is thinking that they might be fixing their fights.
I think Casimero will be the favorite, and if you have been betting in boxing for so long, we all know that fight that is big usually get the first listing in crypto base gambling sites. And unknown fights like this one usually is late, and they are going to list it a few days or even the fight day itself.

For Treasury Boxing, I think they are legit and I do not see any reason for them to fixed this fight or any fight under them for any matter. It's not like we are in 1960's wherein fights are fixed here and there because of the influence of Mafia. Treasury Boxing is Japanese, and we all know how discipline this race is, a simple accusations on their name, they really take it personally. So for me, there is nothing wrong that the odds are not released yet be it fiat or crypto based casinos.
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@bisdak40. Who is the favorite for this fight? I cannot find the odds being offered. Did the sportsbooks forget to include this in their list or are they very much afraid that the underdog for this fight might win if Casimero is the favorite? Also, if I will bet Casimero, how much trust can you put in him against Saul Sanchez? Can we trust this Treasure Boxing promotion? The skeptical me is thinking that they might be fixing their fights.

No odds yet, unfortunately, this is usual for boxing though, even at Bivol vs Beterbiev fight I see that there is not that much listing. So with that, we will have to wait, maybe in the last day or two, we will see at least ML or the over and under.

I do not thing that they are going to fixed this much. And I do not see that Saul Sanchez wanting to take a dive here. For me, this is going to be a fair fight, we wanted Casimero to win by knockout and so, his team should really be focusing on it and not pulling that fixing match because for sure it will really hurt his career once it is revealed later.
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@bbc.reporter, I haven’t seen any odds yet, even in our local sportsbooks. Based on my experience with Casimero’s fights, bookies typically release the odds two days before the fight, so we can expect them by Friday at the earliest.

In my opinion, Casimero will be the favorite in this fight since he is the bigger fighter, with Saul Sanchez moving up in weight. Additionally, Treasure Boxing Promotion is hoping for an impressive win from Casimero to reignite talks of a fight with Naoya Inoue.

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@bisdak40. Who is the favorite for this fight? I cannot find the odds being offered. Did the sportsbooks forget to include this in their list or are they very much afraid that the underdog for this fight might win if Casimero is the favorite? Also, if I will bet Casimero, how much trust can you put in him against Saul Sanchez? Can we trust this Treasure Boxing promotion? The skeptical me is thinking that they might be fixing their fights.
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