[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 12.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 04, 2021, 10:38:28 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2021, 05:49:45 AM

Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

I believe yes it seems that the legendary boxer Manny Pacquiao has still his biggest advantage while on ring which is his speed though he is aged compared to Errol Spence Jr but i bet bettors were still on favor of Manny Pacquiao. Also, this man has still his strongest left punch that listed many knock out on his past games so the edge still on him and I wouldn't doubt to place a bet on him this coming Aug. 21st. The game is fast approaching so let's all watch and see the result of our speculations.

He is but I guess he can still do the tango with Errol even at this age and I wouldn't doubt that he would. He will still be the favorite and I don't think the age is a hindrance not to be. It's just around the corner and looks like our country will gets on pause again once the fight goes live. Rooting for my own countryman Manny.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2021, 10:06:50 AM

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Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

Yes, 100%... Manny Pacquiao has the speed advantage over spence, I'm sure majority of bettors and fans here will agree with me. Spence has the youth, has the advantage in terms of power, "maybe", but with the experience and speed, I think Manny will win the fight. Just think of it, if you are not sure yet, but I'd say, follow your heart always, so you'll have fun watching the fight.

If Pacquiao has the most important advantage, why isn't he the favorite in this fight? Bookmakers are ready to answer with money for their analysis and they give a clear preference to Spence.
Sometimes I am very sorry that in sports we always see single results and cannot assess the overall picture. Sometimes a random event happens, but in the absence of others, we recognize it as natural. I think if Pacquiao wins it will be something similar.

Pacman is the underdog because Errol Spence is younger, bigger, stronger and Pacman has not been active in boxig after his fight versus Keith Thruman. Spence is also presently higher than Pacman in the best boxer pound for pound rankings.

However, you question Pacman’s speed hehe. You can watch Pacman’s heavy bag training on youtube and compare this with Spence heavy bag training.

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Quote from: molsewid on August 04, 2021, 10:38:28 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2021, 05:49:45 AM

Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

I believe yes it seems that the legendary boxer Manny Pacquiao has still his biggest advantage while on ring which is his speed though he is aged compared to Errol Spence Jr but i bet bettors were still on favor of Manny Pacquiao. Also, this man has still his strongest left punch that listed many knock out on his past games so the edge still on him and I wouldn't doubt to place a bet on him this coming Aug. 21st. The game is fast approaching so let's all watch and see the result of our speculations.

Pacquiao has been slowing down because he has lost some of his speed. And if you look at boxers in history, the first sign that a fighter is past his prime is that they've lost their hand speed. Take for example, Roy Jones Jr. he has one of the quickest hands during his prime but when he goes up to heavyweight and then goes down to light heavy and even super middle, he has somewhat not the same. And after that he lost many fights because that hand speed is not there.

I'm not saying that Pacquiao is shot already, but he is not the same during his path of distraction. His speed has diminished.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2021, 05:49:45 AM

Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

I believe yes it seems that the legendary boxer Manny Pacquiao has still his biggest advantage while on ring which is his speed though he is aged compared to Errol Spence Jr but i bet bettors were still on favor of Manny Pacquiao. Also, this man has still his strongest left punch that listed many knock out on his past games so the edge still on him and I wouldn't doubt to place a bet on him this coming Aug. 21st. The game is fast approaching so let's all watch and see the result of our speculations.

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Quote from: Questat on August 04, 2021, 07:13:43 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 04, 2021, 05:49:45 AM

Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

Yes, 100%... Manny Pacquiao has the speed advantage over spence, I'm sure majority of bettors and fans here will agree with me. Spence has the youth, has the advantage in terms of power, "maybe", but with the experience and speed, I think Manny will win the fight. Just think of it, if you are not sure yet, but I'd say, follow your heart always, so you'll have fun watching the fight.

If Pacquiao has the most important advantage, why isn't he the favorite in this fight? Bookmakers are ready to answer with money for their analysis and they give a clear preference to Spence.
Sometimes I am very sorry that in sports we always see single results and cannot assess the overall picture. Sometimes a random event happens, but in the absence of others, we recognize it as natural. I think if Pacquiao wins it will be something similar.

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I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence

It's worth betting to any of the fighters, they are champions and we know they can give a good fight and there's a reason why we choose one fighter over the other. Some believe that Manny will lose, while some believed on Spence to win, that's normal in sports betting but for me, I'll pick the older fighter which they called the legend, that's a no brainer for me, it's power vs speed and I'm going with the speed.

Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

Yes, 100%... Manny Pacquiao has the speed advantage over spence, I'm sure majority of bettors and fans here will agree with me. Spence has the youth, has the advantage in terms of power, "maybe", but with the experience and speed, I think Manny will win the fight. Just think of it, if you are not sure yet, but I'd say, follow your heart always, so you'll have fun watching the fight.

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Quote from: Questat on August 03, 2021, 05:46:13 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 03, 2021, 07:02:59 AM

I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence

It's worth betting to any of the fighters, they are champions and we know they can give a good fight and there's a reason why we choose one fighter over the other. Some believe that Manny will lose, while some believed on Spence to win, that's normal in sports betting but for me, I'll pick the older fighter which they called the legend, that's a no brainer for me, it's power vs speed and I'm going with the speed.

Do you think Pacquiao has more speed? I strongly doubt it, at least with each new round he will slow down more than the young boxer. I am still wondering what kind of bet I should make. Maybe I'll wait for the match to start and place a bet online if I see a profitable change in odds.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 03, 2021, 07:02:59 AM

I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence

Seeing Manny Pacquiao train in the gym, you will likely place your bet on him as his speed and power have not abandoned him all this time, that may be the reason for the change in odds in his favor. If you are inclined on placing your bet on Spence (just like me

) just wait till it's only 3 days to go before the fight as I'm sure that the odds for Spence to win will increase and there will be more markets at that time.

Agreed. In the fight vs. Shawn Porter, Errol Spence had difficulties with Shawn Porter’s speed and angles from where the punches came from. That fight ended in a split decision which might have encouraged Pacman for the challenge. Pacman is faster and has more power than Porter.

@Boafeng. Be ready to create the thread, Terrence Crawford vs. Shawn Porter is being negotiated for November hehehe.

Terence Crawford and Shawn Porter are trying to agree a deal after being ordered to fight by the WBO and boxing fans are keen to know when there will be tickets available for the big bout.

The question on many fans' lips is when will tickets be available for the fight. There are a few things to sort out first before tickets will be sold.

One of these things is when will the date of the fight be, and for now this is not confirmed, but it is believed that it will happen in November.

Source https://www.givemesport.com/1732394-terence-crawford-vs-shawn-porter-when-will-tickets-be-available

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 03, 2021, 08:26:16 AM

Forget about that lawsuit, Pacquiao is confident it will not affect the fight and it's not a big problem.

good for him.

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Pacquiao's biggest problem now is politics because he might win this fight but there's a little chance that he will win in the Presidential race if he will really pursue it.

I lost interest in his politics. I am pretty sure that he'll never win that presidential seat anyway. as much as I love him as a boxer, his performance as a senator? no so much.

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He is a legend and has a lot of experience, so he is a seasoned man and he will not just let his problem outside boxing affect his game.

I am sure he has his ways to deal with it and I am inclined to agree with you. the question only arose because an athlete's performance does get affected when the athlete has a personal or legal problem to think about.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 03, 2021, 07:12:48 AM

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have you heard about the lawsuits surrounding Pacquiao? apparently, Paradigm sports filed a motion to stop the Pacquiao and Spence fight claiming that Pacquiao breached their contract and is demanding payment for the damages it caused. that being said Pacquiao also filed a counter lawsuit against Paradigm sports claiming that the company has failed to fulfill the fight it promised to Pacquiao and other things when Pacquaio signed the deal to Paradigm sports.

I wonder how will these things affect Pacquiao's performance. sure, Pacquiao is a professional but added pressure can have a lot of negative physical and mental effects on an athlete.

here's the article for more information https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/07/31/manny-pacquiao-motion-paradigm-spence/

I have heard about it last month. I thought they're done with that lawsuit. Because Pacquiao said it won't affect his preparations against Spence Jr. I personally though, it's something they can quickly fixed.

When we're talking about pressure against Pacquiao, he already have a lot of it. From the senatorial duties, political agendas, lawsuit, and preparation as an underdog against Spence Jr. Yes, he is a professional athlete but he's still human and gets affected by things happening around him. So yeah this will affect his preparations.

Each person does have different situations that been facing in life which hadn't been known by the masses or by the community and to those things that you had mentioned about possible problems from
lawsuits to on being a senate then it can neither affect him or not.

Preparation is something in default because when you do have an upcoming fight then you cant really just make yourself sit and relax and wait for the fight day.

You would be of course preparing for that even though the extensiveness would really be different to each boxer depending on the time and effort had been spent.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 03, 2021, 07:02:59 AM

I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence

Seeing Manny Pacquiao train in the gym, you will likely place your bet on him as his speed and power have not abandoned him all this time, that may be the reason for the change in odds in his favor. If you are inclined on placing your bet on Spence (just like me

) just wait till it's only 3 days to go before the fight as I'm sure that the odds for Spence to win will increase and there will be more markets at that time.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 03, 2021, 07:02:59 AM

I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence

It's worth betting to any of the fighters, they are champions and we know they can give a good fight and there's a reason why we choose one fighter over the other. Some believe that Manny will lose, while some believed on Spence to win, that's normal in sports betting but for me, I'll pick the older fighter which they called the legend, that's a no brainer for me, it's power vs speed and I'm going with the speed.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 03, 2021, 07:12:48 AM

Quote from: acroman08 on August 02, 2021, 11:02:47 PM

have you heard about the lawsuits surrounding Pacquiao? apparently, Paradigm sports filed a motion to stop the Pacquiao and Spence fight claiming that Pacquiao breached their contract and is demanding payment for the damages it caused. that being said Pacquiao also filed a counter lawsuit against Paradigm sports claiming that the company has failed to fulfill the fight it promised to Pacquiao and other things when Pacquaio signed the deal to Paradigm sports.

I wonder how will these things affect Pacquiao's performance. sure, Pacquiao is a professional but added pressure can have a lot of negative physical and mental effects on an athlete.

here's the article for more information https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/07/31/manny-pacquiao-motion-paradigm-spence/

I have heard about it last month. I thought they're done with that lawsuit. Because Pacquiao said it won't affect his preparations against Spence Jr. I personally though, it's something they can quickly fixed.

When we're talking about pressure against Pacquiao, he already have a lot of it. From the senatorial duties, political agendas, lawsuit, and preparation as an underdog against Spence Jr. Yes, he is a professional athlete but he's still human and gets affected by things happening around him. So yeah this will affect his preparations.

Forget about that lawsuit, Pacquiao is confident it will not affect the fight and it's not a big problem. Pacquiao's biggest problem now is politics because he might win this fight but there's a little chance that he will win in the Presidential race if he will really pursue it.

He is a legend and has a lot of experience, so he is a seasoned man and he will not just let his problem outside boxing affect his game.

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Quote from: acroman08 on August 02, 2021, 11:02:47 PM

have you heard about the lawsuits surrounding Pacquiao? apparently, Paradigm sports filed a motion to stop the Pacquiao and Spence fight claiming that Pacquiao breached their contract and is demanding payment for the damages it caused. that being said Pacquiao also filed a counter lawsuit against Paradigm sports claiming that the company has failed to fulfill the fight it promised to Pacquiao and other things when Pacquaio signed the deal to Paradigm sports.

I wonder how will these things affect Pacquiao's performance. sure, Pacquiao is a professional but added pressure can have a lot of negative physical and mental effects on an athlete.

here's the article for more information https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/07/31/manny-pacquiao-motion-paradigm-spence/

I have heard about it last month. I thought they're done with that lawsuit. Because Pacquiao said it won't affect his preparations against Spence Jr. I personally though, it's something they can quickly fixed.

When we're talking about pressure against Pacquiao, he already have a lot of it. From the senatorial duties, political agendas, lawsuit, and preparation as an underdog against Spence Jr. Yes, he is a professional athlete but he's still human and gets affected by things happening around him. So yeah this will affect his preparations.

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I do not see any compelling reasons for the change in odds that we are seeing now. I think this is only due to the fact that the bookmakers are forced to balance the bets that they have already accepted (apparently most of the bets are placed on Pacquiao). I am more and more inclined to think that it is worth betting on Spence

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have you heard about the lawsuits surrounding Pacquiao? apparently, Paradigm sports filed a motion to stop the Pacquiao and Spence fight claiming that Pacquiao breached their contract and is demanding payment for the damages it caused. that being said Pacquiao also filed a counter lawsuit against Paradigm sports claiming that the company has failed to fulfill the fight it promised to Pacquiao and other things when Pacquaio signed the deal to Paradigm sports.

I wonder how will these things affect Pacquiao's performance. sure, Pacquiao is a professional but added pressure can have a lot of negative physical and mental effects on an athlete.

here's the article for more information https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2021/07/31/manny-pacquiao-motion-paradigm-spence/

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I would not be surprised now if Manny ended up as a slight underdog only in the fight, if I have a lot of extra money now, I would not hesitate to take that 2.47 and I'm pretty sure that would not be seen weeks from now. Manny keeps going and he seemed to be focused on his training since he does not talk about politics, he is just so cool, trying to impress the fans with his daily routine, this guy is so friendly, no wonder people are coming back to the gym to see him.

It is possible that the lines might come down in the coming weeks and if you are confident enough that Manny Pacquiao is going to win the fight then this is the best time to wage a bet, my take on the fight is that if it goes to the decision there is no way the judges are going to give the fight to Manny Pacquiao and we have seen these stupid decision making judges in the past and he needs to knock him out to be the winner and i doubt he has that same speed that could surprise Errol Spence.

Oops! There seems to be a line movement again, Pacman is quite up now with 2.60 odds per Sportsbet, I don't know what's happening but I think this is a great opportunity to take advantage of the opportunity, with a price boost, you can get 2.76.. that extra 76 is good enough if you are really confident that Manny Pacquiao will win.

That weird, from 2.47 now to 2.60 odds, so a lot of movement and it seems that money on Spence right now three weeks before the fight. But that is still very far, money will be pouring a day before the fight so that's where we should look. But yes, with the recent line movement, it's good to bet on Pacquiao right now at this odds.

It's not consistent, looks like there's not enough money being wagered yet as the betting is moving fast. The bigger bets coming from the sharps might come a week before the fight, they are just monitoring the movement now, and I'm pretty sure they'll put their bet once they find a great opportunity. With this odds movement, it's not anymore certain if Manny's odds will go up or go down minutes before the betting odds close.

For those Pacquiao's loyalists here, time to bet on him while the odds are still good.
Because a week before the fight, it may change again, I guess it will go down a lil bit.
I am seeing that Pacquiao can still attract a lot of interest even here on this forum.
Many are betting on him than on Spence. I hope he will not fail us as I am looking forward to this fight as well.

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I would not be surprised now if Manny ended up as a slight underdog only in the fight, if I have a lot of extra money now, I would not hesitate to take that 2.47 and I'm pretty sure that would not be seen weeks from now. Manny keeps going and he seemed to be focused on his training since he does not talk about politics, he is just so cool, trying to impress the fans with his daily routine, this guy is so friendly, no wonder people are coming back to the gym to see him.

It is possible that the lines might come down in the coming weeks and if you are confident enough that Manny Pacquiao is going to win the fight then this is the best time to wage a bet, my take on the fight is that if it goes to the decision there is no way the judges are going to give the fight to Manny Pacquiao and we have seen these stupid decision making judges in the past and he needs to knock him out to be the winner and i doubt he has that same speed that could surprise Errol Spence.

Oops! There seems to be a line movement again, Pacman is quite up now with 2.60 odds per Sportsbet, I don't know what's happening but I think this is a great opportunity to take advantage of the opportunity, with a price boost, you can get 2.76.. that extra 76 is good enough if you are really confident that Manny Pacquiao will win.

That weird, from 2.47 now to 2.60 odds, so a lot of movement and it seems that money on Spence right now three weeks before the fight. But that is still very far, money will be pouring a day before the fight so that's where we should look. But yes, with the recent line movement, it's good to bet on Pacquiao right now at this odds.

It's not consistent, looks like there's not enough money being wagered yet as the betting is moving fast. The bigger bets coming from the sharps might come a week before the fight, they are just monitoring the movement now, and I'm pretty sure they'll put their bet once they find a great opportunity. With this odds movement, it's not anymore certain if Manny's odds will go up or go down minutes before the betting odds close.

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I would not be surprised now if Manny ended up as a slight underdog only in the fight, if I have a lot of extra money now, I would not hesitate to take that 2.47 and I'm pretty sure that would not be seen weeks from now. Manny keeps going and he seemed to be focused on his training since he does not talk about politics, he is just so cool, trying to impress the fans with his daily routine, this guy is so friendly, no wonder people are coming back to the gym to see him.

It is possible that the lines might come down in the coming weeks and if you are confident enough that Manny Pacquiao is going to win the fight then this is the best time to wage a bet, my take on the fight is that if it goes to the decision there is no way the judges are going to give the fight to Manny Pacquiao and we have seen these stupid decision making judges in the past and he needs to knock him out to be the winner and i doubt he has that same speed that could surprise Errol Spence.

Oops! There seems to be a line movement again, Pacman is quite up now with 2.60 odds per Sportsbet, I don't know what's happening but I think this is a great opportunity to take advantage of the opportunity, with a price boost, you can get 2.76.. that extra 76 is good enough if you are really confident that Manny Pacquiao will win.

That weird, from 2.47 now to 2.60 odds, so a lot of movement and it seems that money on Spence right now three weeks before the fight. But that is still very far, money will be pouring a day before the fight so that's where we should look. But yes, with the recent line movement, it's good to bet on Pacquiao right now at this odds.

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Quote from: Russlenat on August 01, 2021, 05:34:56 PM

I would not be surprised now if Manny ended up as a slight underdog only in the fight, if I have a lot of extra money now, I would not hesitate to take that 2.47 and I'm pretty sure that would not be seen weeks from now. Manny keeps going and he seemed to be focused on his training since he does not talk about politics, he is just so cool, trying to impress the fans with his daily routine, this guy is so friendly, no wonder people are coming back to the gym to see him.

It is possible that the lines might come down in the coming weeks and if you are confident enough that Manny Pacquiao is going to win the fight then this is the best time to wage a bet, my take on the fight is that if it goes to the decision there is no way the judges are going to give the fight to Manny Pacquiao and we have seen these stupid decision making judges in the past and he needs to knock him out to be the winner and i doubt he has that same speed that could surprise Errol Spence.

Oops! There seems to be a line movement again, Pacman is quite up now with 2.60 odds per Sportsbet, I don't know what's happening but I think this is a great opportunity to take advantage of the opportunity, with a price boost, you can get 2.76.. that extra 76 is good enough if you are really confident that Manny Pacquiao will win.

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