Topic: [Boxing] Naoya Inoue vs Paul Butler - Undisputed Bantamweight Bout - December 13 - page 16. (Read 16064 times)

won't be considering the place where inoue will fight, when it comes to his performance. the audience have a very little impact on his actual performance inside the ring. this is my opinion though. so wherever he will find his next fight, will depend on his prep or training, not the audience per se.
when it comes to moving up the weight division, for sure, Arum will weigh their chances on who to fight for this div. definitely, there will be assessments on their end before pushing his cash cow to the ring.

I am confident Bob Arum is willing to risk his 3-division star against any of the 122 champs. WBA/IBF champion Akhmadaliev is easier to make as WBO/WBC champion Fulton is with PBC.

So far Inoue fought in Japan, the UK, and the US only. Can't blame him though since Japan is a very rich country and is capable of bringing big fights like the US and UK.

I agree Casimero should discipline himself and stay at 118 so he can inherit any of the belts once Inoue moves up.

Like to see Inoue will head directly at those Super Bantamweight Champions after he secures all the belts here in the Bantamweight. I really feel that he can close a match against Fulton or Akhmadaliev once he moved up.

But it seems to me that a unification match between Fulton and Akhmadaliev will happen first before Inoue has a chance to face one of them.

About Casimero, he should just wait instead for Inoue to move up as when the Champion now leaves the Bantamweight, Casimero has a chance to dominate that division hehe.

The question is, will Bob Arum will push his cash cow to face either Fulton or Akhmadaliev right away after moving up?

Naoya Inoue is really a monster but we have to consider also that most of his fights are based on his homeland, Japan.

I don't know if his potential as a monster will still be seen if the crowd is against to him or not dominated by the Japanese audiences.

Not just Stephen Fulton, but Murodjon Akhmadaliev, the WBA and IBF  are waiting for Inoue too.

Yes, Inoue says that he is more comfortable at 122 lbs, his body could adapt easily at this new weight class as it is much easier for him to lose and diet around it.

So it will be interesting weight class once he officially move in, because Casimero is also having his baptism of fire in Super Bantamweight/Jr. Featherweight at the end of the year.

Naoya Inoue already said a couple of months ago that he wants to face the current WBC and WBO super bantamweight Champion Stephen Fulton once he moved up a weight division and successfully achieved being the undisputed bantamweight champion by defeating Paul Butler.

The Japanese monster is really comfortable that he can easily adopt well to the 122 lbs environment from 118 lbs.

“At 122 pounds, I can move more, and I think I can demonstrate my strength more. I don’t know how much damage I can do to opponents who should be naturally bigger. It will be an unknown world. - Naoya Inoue

Indeed, it's a token for Inoue to have that instant challenge to the next division champ just like what Canelo did when chasing

for Bivol's belt but it didn't happen since Bivol is more prepared and more fit from that current weight unlike with Alvarez
who needed to adjust and gain weight.

With Casimero, he needed to start from the scratch and prove that he belonged to this new division. It's better for him to
Jump up before the belt was stripped.. Just saying..

However the case of Inoue is different, if he wins his next fight against Butler and he becomes the undisputed he will immediately get a chance to fight for a title, this is the reason Usyk and Canelo after becoming undisputed champions on their division could immediately try to get a championship on the next division, and this is key as it could save Inoue a bunch of fights to prove his worth on the next division, but Casimero cannot do the same and he will need to once again demonstrate his worth.

I don't understand some parts of your post but I'm amazed that there are still a few thinks that Butler will survive the 12 rounds against Inoue.

It might happen and that's possible but in my observation and analysis I will rule out that from happening.


I will also ruled out the possibility of Butler winning the fight at the end. I can't even say such things and no offense to Butler's followers.

We just have to wait on the day of the fight to see if there will be an upset win or if the monster will just do his monster thing.

I really don't think that Inoue is going to beat Butler by a knockout, it's like something very terrifying for Butler, although it is very possible because the possibilities are present in them, many things can happen, among them they can be taken into account that they last All the Rounds and that the decision be unanimous, but Butler would be showing that he is a boxer who resisted one of the best there is today, this is something that must be recognized, and he could even have the right to a good rematch, However, I would think that everything could happen in the term of not finishing the rounds but with a possible knockout, and the other option is that Butler comes out, surprises Inoue and ends the fight winning.
Well I say something, Inoue is without a doubt one of the best boxers out there, so this is something that should be given, while Inopue has already proven to be the best in his category, he has to level up, I don't think he has more things to prove, for me that if he should give him the opportunity to fight against Casimero and against whoever if he wants to continue being the best, for me a boxer who decides to move up in category is to show that he can win any fight, against any boxer , and obviously earn more money, would be entering another business model that is much larger than the previous one, everything is connected.

Inoue vs. Butler: Peter McGrail Lands Spot on Undercard





Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/inoue-vs-butler-peter-mcgrail-lands-spot-on-undercard--169823

Can't agree more. Casimero wasted his chance to fight against Inoue. Now, he became so distant and will have to work his way up to gain his worth fighting against Inoue.
Let's just wait what the future holds for these 2 fighters, most probably they'll gonna step in the same ring in the future. Both are still young and still has a long way ahead of their respective careers. But then again Casimero needs extra work to reach Inoue.

I think we should stop for now the talk about Casimero vs Inoue's chances in the future. There are lots of things that Casimero needs to be done in the super bantamweight before being included in the discussion of competing in the title in that division. Once Inoue finally decides to move up, there might be a chance that he will face a champion already and won't start in that new environment by competing against mid-ranks.

Casimero's next opponent is not even in the Top 10 of the Super Bantamweight Rankings. To be able to take a shot against Inoue or other champions there, he should defeat some in the Top 10. Luis Nery for example, rank 10 in Super Bantamweight with a record of 32-1 24 KO, it seems Casimero will have a hard time against this boxer if ever they will face each other.

It is everybody's fault, not just Casimero, in the first place they haven't handled Casimero's situation correctly that is why they were forced to that resort where they had an unprecedented situation. Either way, what happened is for the better because it only shows that Casimero is really struggling hard to shrink his weight, maybe he could've afford to shrink in the last minute but he will be in the same situation if he'll face Inoue next with the chance of getting stripped. I guess that is not really his time to face the monster, let's see if these two will face in 122 pounds.

If we are smart then we should not waste our money betting on Paul Butler who obviously has no chance of beating Inoue. However, you don't put money on ML because of the very low odds, guessing what round Inoue will KO Butler is quite interesting, it's a high risk because we might make a wrong prediction but the reward is certainly be satisfying.

^^ It's not about being high risk bettor, we should be smart specially in this kind of fight.

As we have seen how Inoue's path to become a champion, he just overrun them with his power and precision. Even Donaire wasn't able to last against him in their rematch. So it's really hard to see how Paul Butler will pull an upset here. We might see him go down as well, just like the rest of Inoue's last couple of opponents.

If you are a fan of high-risk bet, I'm pretty sure that taking a side for Butler will be an entertainment for you, though most of the gamblers will
hold their fund and wait for the fight night to see additional available odds for this fight.

Inoue, on the side note, is a KO specialist, by papers it is an easy fight for him, but ML is not nice based on my personal take, not worthy if you can't
spare huge amount for this kind of odd.

I guess it's Casimero's fault for having it on his social media account like in Youtube, and this should be lessons for him not to really show everything from behind. If by chance the video is not shown and he made the weight and win against Butler by knockout or decision, he should be in this position right now.

Unfortunately, he has to move on and so he jump to the next weight class.

The odds are still not moving though, Inoue a huge 1.02 favorite as compare to Butler which is 10.00 now.

If only that video of Casimero wasn't leaked, we would've had a chance to see Casimero and Inoue fighting for the undisputed title in the bantamweight division but we cannot do anything about it as of now because Casimero was already stripped off his belt that is why Butler had an easy way of getting the belt. Just hold your horses folks, we may see them fighting again soon if Inoue will climb the next division, for sure he'd love to give Casimero a chance.

Well that's a shame, but if only Casimero hadn't made the ridiculous mistake that cost him his belt.
it's possible that we'll see Inoue fight Casimero, and it will be a very interesting fight and captivate the interest of many viewers.
we know, both Casimero and Inoue are fights with amazing and extraordinary records.

But now I hope that Inoue can beat Paul and become the holder of all belts in this division.

Maybe yes and maybe no, Casimero vs Inoue in a ordinary fight might not gain much attentions.

Unlike if Inoue moves up and challenges the current champ from the division, it will gain more viewers and interest from the
fans.

Though we all wanted to see these fights to happen but in this case it was Casimero who needed to prove something before
he can reach or call for a challenge to Inoue.