[Boxing] Pacquiao vs Matthysse July 15 2018 - page 7.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 04, 2018, 05:36:37 PM

He is a living legend!
Manny is out of his prime already, and he didnt lost his last match, he's been robbed. In the eyes of the audience Manny won! But, sad to say Boxing becomes more of a business than a sports today. I mean, not only in boxing, everything!
As I noticed, after Manny lost his killer instinct, rigged matches had happened.

About the last fight with Jeff Horn? oh well look on who's making the crowd noisier, it's still Manny Pacquiao right? But due to his humbleness and he doesn't want to take it to a longer discussion, he had had enough with it and he knew it coming. A cooking show was settled before the fight.

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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

We can't dictate what Pacquiao should do. We don't even know his capacity. It's his own body not ours. Capacity to fight? That's not a question anymore. Let him do what he wants. Even with lots of money why he didn't focused on other things? There are lots of things that he can produce more money rather than his current earnings in boxing but still he fight.

So why? That question can only be answered by Manny Pacquaio itself and we have to respect that.

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Quote from: Vaculin on July 04, 2018, 12:34:45 AM

Manny is truly a legend, he does not need to prove anything but of course if you can still fight and make money, why not?
The game is gonna be happening soon, but I don't feel the excitement like before because he lose in his last fight and it seems like he is not on his prime anymore.

He is a living legend!
Manny is out of his prime already, and he didnt lost his last match, he's been robbed. In the eyes of the audience Manny won! But, sad to say Boxing becomes more of a business than a sports today. I mean, not only in boxing, everything!
As I noticed, after Manny lost his killer instinct, rigged matches had happened.

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I think too many people in this thread are bashing Pacquiao... I mean come on, he is a straight monster. Yes he's getting a little bit old, but he's not exactly a pensioner, he's not even 40 yet? Don't you guys remember Klitschko almost hooping Anthony Joshua at 41? And he's a HW! Pacquiao is going to hammer this fool.

I agree that Manny's performance in the last couple of fights has somewhat dwindling because of politics and age factor. His not that the same monster anymore like 5 years ago. But this fight will really show that he still has that power in his left that might hammer out Lucas in a KO or even a TKO victory. This fight will prove his detractor wrong again. So perhaps we can judge him after this fight if he still have the will and the speed to take out opponents or just old enough and no longer his prime and should retire for good.

I've read many bashers saying Manny was too old to fight for boxing, but I must question on those people! How are they doing for their health? Are they doing what Manny did for his life? These people who bashed the champion and a senator is worth inspiring, knowing that he serves both the country's reputations on boxing sports together serving the nation. We will see all those bashers will shut their mouth after all winning decisions will be made, when we withness his live fight with Mattyse this coming July 15.

Even the GOAT from previous era has bashers, but those greats have records to back up all their claim. So Manny is no exceptions and even if he win against Lucas coming July 15, there will be a lot of excuses for them to trash talk and bash him more. Yeah he did a lot for his country and now serving as a Senator, I don't know if other boxers can topple can achievement inside the ring with multiple belts in different divisions and then elected in one of the highest governing body in the country.

Manny is truly a legend, he does not need to prove anything but of course if you can still fight and make money, why not?
The game is gonna be happening soon, but I don't feel the excitement like before because he lose in his last fight and it seems like he is not on his prime anymore.

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Quote from: Chachacoin17 on July 03, 2018, 10:01:59 PM

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Quote from: boy130 on July 03, 2018, 04:23:00 PM

I think too many people in this thread are bashing Pacquiao... I mean come on, he is a straight monster. Yes he's getting a little bit old, but he's not exactly a pensioner, he's not even 40 yet? Don't you guys remember Klitschko almost hooping Anthony Joshua at 41? And he's a HW! Pacquiao is going to hammer this fool.

I agree that Manny's performance in the last couple of fights has somewhat dwindling because of politics and age factor. His not that the same monster anymore like 5 years ago. But this fight will really show that he still has that power in his left that might hammer out Lucas in a KO or even a TKO victory. This fight will prove his detractor wrong again. So perhaps we can judge him after this fight if he still have the will and the speed to take out opponents or just old enough and no longer his prime and should retire for good.

I've read many bashers saying Manny was too old to fight for boxing, but I must question on those people! How are they doing for their health? Are they doing what Manny did for his life? These people who bashed the champion and a senator is worth inspiring, knowing that he serves both the country's reputations on boxing sports together serving the nation. We will see all those bashers will shut their mouth after all winning decisions will be made, when we withness his live fight with Mattyse this coming July 15.

Even the GOAT from previous era has bashers, but those greats have records to back up all their claim. So Manny is no exceptions and even if he win against Lucas coming July 15, there will be a lot of excuses for them to trash talk and bash him more. Yeah he did a lot for his country and now serving as a Senator, I don't know if other boxers can topple can achievement inside the ring with multiple belts in different divisions and then elected in one of the highest governing body in the country.

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Quote from: boy130 on July 03, 2018, 04:23:00 PM

I think too many people in this thread are bashing Pacquiao... I mean come on, he is a straight monster. Yes he's getting a little bit old, but he's not exactly a pensioner, he's not even 40 yet? Don't you guys remember Klitschko almost hooping Anthony Joshua at 41? And he's a HW! Pacquiao is going to hammer this fool.

I agree that Manny's performance in the last couple of fights has somewhat dwindling because of politics and age factor. His not that the same monster anymore like 5 years ago. But this fight will really show that he still has that power in his left that might hammer out Lucas in a KO or even a TKO victory. This fight will prove his detractor wrong again. So perhaps we can judge him after this fight if he still have the will and the speed to take out opponents or just old enough and no longer his prime and should retire for good.

I've read many bashers saying Manny was too old to fight for boxing, but I must question on those people! How are they doing for their health? Are they doing what Manny did for his life? These people who bashed the champion and a senator is worth inspiring, knowing that he serves both the country's reputations on boxing sports together serving the nation. We will see all those bashers will shut their mouth after all winning decisions will be made, when we withness his live fight with Mattyse this coming July 15.

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Quote from: boy130 on July 03, 2018, 04:23:00 PM

I think too many people in this thread are bashing Pacquiao... I mean come on, he is a straight monster. Yes he's getting a little bit old, but he's not exactly a pensioner, he's not even 40 yet? Don't you guys remember Klitschko almost hooping Anthony Joshua at 41? And he's a HW! Pacquiao is going to hammer this fool.

I agree that Manny's performance in the last couple of fights has somewhat dwindling because of politics and age factor. His not that the same monster anymore like 5 years ago. But this fight will really show that he still has that power in his left that might hammer out Lucas in a KO or even a TKO victory. This fight will prove his detractor wrong again. So perhaps we can judge him after this fight if he still have the will and the speed to take out opponents or just old enough and no longer his prime and should retire for good.

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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

It's true, but he isn't a heavyweight, so he probably still has quite decent speed. And it's not like Matthysse is exactly young, it's not a young vs old fight by any means. Middleweights and below tend to maintain their speed up until around 40, so at worst Pacquiao still has a punchers chance, or at best he'll still be the same as when he fought Mayweather. It's very unlikely he'll get knocked out cold, even an old Pacquiao is still a beast.

I agree with you, Manny may be old but he still is deadly as he used to be. Matthysse should not be complacent about their age difference specially when he is facing a legend like Manny.

Anyone is afraid of manny's powerpunch we saw it already eveb he losses he give a mark that his punches was to strong. Age doesn't matter Manny still have a pride to fight and to win a fight. Confidefence? It will help Matthysse but in fight we will going to see how he will endure the punches.

Manny lost his killer instinct already, his punches became weaker as time passes by, the speed and stamina are still somehow intact. I guess he only has a lower chance to win a KO against an opponent these days, lets accept the fact that he's out of his prime already. But, he can still make a sell-out crowd, because everyone wants to see his fights, as he is one of the greatest boxer in the world. A living legend.

Nothing do last forever which everyone knows and for a fighter there would be definitely a time where those capacity of ours would pass away and this is what we are seeing on Pacquiao.I agree that he doesnt already have that killer instinct when he do fight inside the ring which if you are a follower into his all fights you would be missing out those things to his present fights. Power wont really be the same, movements compared when hes still young but well he do already prove himself to the world. Win or lose on this fight wont really be a big deal.

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I think too many people in this thread are bashing Pacquiao... I mean come on, he is a straight monster. Yes he's getting a little bit old, but he's not exactly a pensioner, he's not even 40 yet? Don't you guys remember Klitschko almost hooping Anthony Joshua at 41? And he's a HW! Pacquiao is going to hammer this fool.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 25, 2018, 09:57:26 PM

There were reports that the fight "might" be postpone:

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De La Hoya: I Feel 'Very Confident' Pacquiao-Matthysse Happens

There has been a lot of reports of the fight between Manny Pacquiao and Lucas Matthysse, scheduled for July 14th in Malaysia, not taking place as there are some financial issues plaguing that event.

Golden Boy Promotions and Matthysse had been waiting on some money due to them the past few weeks.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-i-feel-very-confident-pacquiao-matthysse-happens--129425

The reports seems to point to MP promotions unable to provide the needed money and a shortage of $2M in financing. I honestly believed that this is just a ploy to attract boxing fans specially in the US to buy the PPV, sort of marketing.

Mattysse already received his money and on his way to Malaysia as reported:

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t took longer than promised but Golden Boy Promotions and Lucas Matthysse have received their funds from the organizers of the July 14th event in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.

So with that said, Matthysse and his crew will be flying out there for his scheduled date with Manny Pacquiao on Tuesday.

"We have a fight, everything's great, everything's perfect," confirmed Eric Gomez, the president of Golden Boy, on Monday afternoon ."They're flying out tomorrow, we're looking forward to it. Lucas is ready and he's ready to defend his title against a legend."

https://www.boxingscene.com/matthysse-receives-his-money-heads-malaysia-on-tuesday--129632

So its really set and ready to go. Its only about 10 days to go and I hope that Lucas can acclimatized himself on a hot weather in Malaysia. As for Manny, no adjust needed because Malaysia and the Philippines have the same weather (almost).

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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

It's true, but he isn't a heavyweight, so he probably still has quite decent speed. And it's not like Matthysse is exactly young, it's not a young vs old fight by any means. Middleweights and below tend to maintain their speed up until around 40, so at worst Pacquiao still has a punchers chance, or at best he'll still be the same as when he fought Mayweather. It's very unlikely he'll get knocked out cold, even an old Pacquiao is still a beast.

I agree with you, Manny may be old but he still is deadly as he used to be. Matthysse should not be complacent about their age difference specially when he is facing a legend like Manny.

Anyone is afraid of manny's powerpunch we saw it already eveb he losses he give a mark that his punches was to strong. Age doesn't matter Manny still have a pride to fight and to win a fight. Confidefence? It will help Matthysse but in fight we will going to see how he will endure the punches.

Manny lost his killer instinct already, his punches became weaker as time passes by, the speed and stamina are still somehow intact. I guess he only has a lower chance to win a KO against an opponent these days, lets accept the fact that he's out of his prime already. But, he can still make a sell-out crowd, because everyone wants to see his fights, as he is one of the greatest boxer in the world. A living legend.

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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

It's true, but he isn't a heavyweight, so he probably still has quite decent speed. And it's not like Matthysse is exactly young, it's not a young vs old fight by any means. Middleweights and below tend to maintain their speed up until around 40, so at worst Pacquiao still has a punchers chance, or at best he'll still be the same as when he fought Mayweather. It's very unlikely he'll get knocked out cold, even an old Pacquiao is still a beast.

I agree with you, Manny may be old but he still is deadly as he used to be. Matthysse should not be complacent about their age difference specially when he is facing a legend like Manny.

Anyone is afraid of manny's powerpunch we saw it already eveb he losses he give a mark that his punches was to strong. Age doesn't matter Manny still have a pride to fight and to win a fight. Confidefence? It will help Matthysse but in fight we will going to see how he will endure the punches.

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Quote from: spiker777 on July 03, 2018, 03:39:07 AM

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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

It's true, but he isn't a heavyweight, so he probably still has quite decent speed. And it's not like Matthysse is exactly young, it's not a young vs old fight by any means. Middleweights and below tend to maintain their speed up until around 40, so at worst Pacquiao still has a punchers chance, or at best he'll still be the same as when he fought Mayweather. It's very unlikely he'll get knocked out cold, even an old Pacquiao is still a beast.

I agree with you, Manny may be old but he still is deadly as he used to be. Matthysse should not be complacent about their age difference specially when he is facing a legend like Manny.

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The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

It's true, but he isn't a heavyweight, so he probably still has quite decent speed. And it's not like Matthysse is exactly young, it's not a young vs old fight by any means. Middleweights and below tend to maintain their speed up until around 40, so at worst Pacquiao still has a punchers chance, or at best he'll still be the same as when he fought Mayweather. It's very unlikely he'll get knocked out cold, even an old Pacquiao is still a beast.

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Quote from: megynacuna on July 02, 2018, 01:50:10 AM

The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

Even if Senator Manny can still fill arenas, that doesn't mean its not the time to hang up the gloves yet. What Manny's camp should look at is his capacity to fight, can he still fight younger boxers and win. Manny is already a Legend and a future hall of famer. I would rather see him hang up the gloves while he is still on very good shape, than retire because someone knocked him out cold.

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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

I agree with you. As long as people want to watch him fighting, why I should be having problem with it? And I still remember Vitaly Klitschko fighting Manuel Charr in 2012, when the former was 40 years old.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 02, 2018, 07:36:29 AM

I don't think that Manny will kiss the canvas again with this Lucas fight. The Marquez KO was a lucky punch that put him in the canvass for good. But want I like about this fight is that Lucas is really still at his prime, IMHO and will be dangerous as any other opponent of money. I think he is one of the hardest puncher Manny has face in recent memory. The Molina vs Mattysse was voted as fight of the year 2014/2015 if I'm not mistaken. But if you are really interested in Lucas previous fights, just look at his fight with Victor Postol (Manny's sparring mate before) and see that he tends to start very quick but when he is hit, he slows down that's why Postol KO him.

the fight of postol and lucas I think happens first before lucas fights molina. You are right that at that time lucas might really get exhausted maybe because of his conditioning practice fails. However on the fight between molina he still really shows how a champion really are. That made him really dangerous but as i have said i think that he is the underdog for this fight because on my theory manny can knock him out if not once maybe twice. Now the exciting part here is if he manage to show that heart of a champion again or will manny can overpower him

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I don't want to badmouth or insult Pacquiao, but I think it may be better for him to concentrate on his career in politics. He is already 40 years old and I am afraid that the fight against Matthysse may be one-sided.

The Dude is done but i guess he can still sell a fight and make good money from his fame even though he might end up loosing so i think so long as he doesn't see anything wrong in tarnishing his reputation by loosing fights then we should leave him to make his money. It's good business dude!

That's the sad reality of boxing these days all for money, they seem to make matches like these to milk the money out of people but then considering their careers are short don't even know if one should blame them. Maybe he's going to use money to invest heavily in his political career since his boxing days are heavily outnumbered.

We knew that boxing is about fight of course with title and money into it but i don't believe its for money. Because he already have a very good life and boxing is even a big risk. If it is for money we will going to see a bad fight. I don't want to judge him for whatever reason he is still fighting its not our business and its his life.

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Quote from: serjent05 on March 15, 2018, 02:05:11 PM

I guess this is an interesting fight, there is this possibility that Manny Pacquiao may kiss the canvass with a heavy puncher as Matthysse. Remember how Marquez knocked down Pacquiao? This might be the fight Matthysse may watch and study. Aside from that Manny is not as prime as he was when he fought Marquez.

A very interesting fight indeed. Will manny really kiss the canvas like what happen during the marquez fight?, well to tell you frankly in my opinion for the past fights of manny and marquez i can consider that punch as a lucky one. So basically lucas might well have that luck in his punch.

What i like about this fight tho is that lucas is really a taugh guy and he can really stand in front of manny which makes it so exciting.

Even tho that lucas is the current champion it seems that he is the underdog on this fight

I could still remember the lucas molina fight so manny should have to be really careful on this one

I don't think that Manny will kiss the canvas again with this Lucas fight. The Marquez KO was a lucky punch that put him in the canvass for good. But want I like about this fight is that Lucas is really still at his prime, IMHO and will be dangerous as any other opponent of money. I think he is one of the hardest puncher Manny has face in recent memory. The Molina vs Mattysse was voted as fight of the year 2014/2015 if I'm not mistaken. But if you are really interested in Lucas previous fights, just look at his fight with Victor Postol (Manny's sparring mate before) and see that he tends to start very quick but when he is hit, he slows down that's why Postol KO him.

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Quote from: serjent05 on March 15, 2018, 02:05:11 PM

I guess this is an interesting fight, there is this possibility that Manny Pacquiao may kiss the canvass with a heavy puncher as Matthysse. Remember how Marquez knocked down Pacquiao? This might be the fight Matthysse may watch and study. Aside from that Manny is not as prime as he was when he fought Marquez.

A very interesting fight indeed. Will manny really kiss the canvas like what happen during the marquez fight?, well to tell you frankly in my opinion for the past fights of manny and marquez i can consider that punch as a lucky one. So basically lucas might well have that luck in his punch.

What i like about this fight tho is that lucas is really a taugh guy and he can really stand in front of manny which makes it so exciting.

Even tho that lucas is the current champion it seems that he is the underdog on this fight

I could still remember the lucas molina fight so manny should have to be really careful on this one

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