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Topic: [Boxing] Pacquiao vs Matthysse July 15 2018 - page 11. (Read 1278 times)

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You gotta watch this whiteboy he is quick and strong!!!! 36 k/o's this fight will not last 10 rounds!!!
It's easy to give prediction but during the actual fight things might change. We shouldn't underestimate him as Manny doesn't do it although when he's on interviews, he's giving his own opinion that he can beat his opponent easily. I guess that's a way to boost his confidence, as a fighter you shouldn't show your enemy that you are frightened against him.
I cannot imagine how Manny manages his time because he's a man full of priorities.
He's living his life to the fullest and it only shows on how good he is in managing time but in terms of priorities, that's a lot of activities and hobbies to focus with.
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Lucas Matthysse, I do not really know a whole lot about him, but when they first started talking about this fight, I looked up some videos of him, and the boy has some hands, Manny does too!!  You gotta watch this whiteboy he is quick and strong!!!! 36 k/o's this fight will not last 10 rounds!!!
I think this fight is really interesting just like the old fights of Manny Pacquiao.I cannot imagine how Manny manages his time because he's a man full of priorities.He's active in politics,his church and even in sports.I just hope that he will be able to make lot of practices before engaging into this fight and to think that Manny is not getting younger already,so he should be extra careful in all his acts.
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One thing that came to my mind is Chavez Sr. vs Oscar Dela Hoya, but Chavez Sr. is not as quick as Pacquiao though. Yes, the Marquez fight really put a psychological barrier to Pacquiao so to speak. He is not that aggressive and somewhat hesitant because he is afraid that he might be caught by another Hail Mary Punch and put him to sleep again. For the Mayweather fight, they promise to deliver a good fight, however, we all know how defensive Floyd is so Pacquiao trying his best to at least get a good shot at Mayweather that's why he let go of his lefts, unfortunately it wasn't enough.
This is a good observation and I also think that after Marquez fight, all his (Manny) moves are very much calculated to avoid that lucky punch again. His animal instinct inside the ring is not there anymore. The last time we saw a great KO courtesy of Manny is when he fought Ricky Hatton last 2009. But, we have to give him credit too if most of his match now is catch weight, most of his last fights, opponent is bigger and heavier but still he managed to win.
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Lucas Matthysse, I do not really know a whole lot about him, but when they first started talking about this fight, I looked up some videos of him, and the boy has some hands, Manny does too!!  You gotta watch this whiteboy he is quick and strong!!!! 36 k/o's this fight will not last 10 rounds!!!
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I still favor pacquiao to win. My reason is, I like the style of playing pacquiao with range blow distance with and with a very fast tempo.
I don't know if you have followed Pacquiao's career because he is not as what he is used to be. Everyone really loves how the way he fights, very fast hands and power specially his left. However, it has started to deteriorate as you can see in his last fight with Jeff Horn, although most of us thinks that he was robbed. He is not as fast and it looks like he is very cautious as well. But just like a real Pacquiao fans, we wanted him to win his fight against Lucas Mattysse and hope he is doesn't give that much damage because his health will really be affected down the line because of boxing.

His last fight with Jeff Horn was still an impressive to me because at his age, he can still do a close combat to much younger Jeff Horn. I can't recall a boxer who still like fighting on his prime against the much younger opponent (when I say young, like 5 to 7 years younger etc). Maybe someone can give me an example.

Though his speed is good still but hes mind has a small part of hesitation that it wont haplen again,becaus since then hes fans becomes cold to him

Yes we noticed that during his next matches after his knockout experience by Marquez. Pacquiao's fighting style was changed although he can't really resists his usual way as we seen how aggressive he is during his fight with Mayweather. Maybe it depends on his opponent because in his last fight with Jeff Horn, I think he noticed that Jeff Horn is more of aggressive fighter too so he matched with it throwing away the defense, a fist to fist fight.
One thing that came to my mind is Chavez Sr. vs Oscar Dela Hoya, but Chavez Sr. is not as quick as Pacquiao though. Yes, the Marquez fight really put a psychological barrier to Pacquiao so to speak. He is not that aggressive and somewhat hesitant because he is afraid that he might be caught by another Hail Mary Punch and put him to sleep again. For the Mayweather fight, they promise to deliver a good fight, however, we all know how defensive Floyd is so Pacquiao trying his best to at least get a good shot at Mayweather that's why he let go of his lefts, unfortunately it wasn't enough.
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I still favor pacquiao to win. My reason is, I like the style of playing pacquiao with range blow distance with and with a very fast tempo.
I don't know if you have followed Pacquiao's career because he is not as what he is used to be. Everyone really loves how the way he fights, very fast hands and power specially his left. However, it has started to deteriorate as you can see in his last fight with Jeff Horn, although most of us thinks that he was robbed. He is not as fast and it looks like he is very cautious as well. But just like a real Pacquiao fans, we wanted him to win his fight against Lucas Mattysse and hope he is doesn't give that much damage because his health will really be affected down the line because of boxing.

His last fight with Jeff Horn was still an impressive to me because at his age, he can still do a close combat to much younger Jeff Horn. I can't recall a boxer who still like fighting on his prime against the much younger opponent (when I say young, like 5 to 7 years younger etc). Maybe someone can give me an example.

Though his speed is good still but hes mind has a small part of hesitation that it wont haplen again,becaus since then hes fans becomes cold to him

Yes we noticed that during his next matches after his knockout experience by Marquez. Pacquiao's fighting style was changed although he can't really resists his usual way as we seen how aggressive he is during his fight with Mayweather. Maybe it depends on his opponent because in his last fight with Jeff Horn, I think he noticed that Jeff Horn is more of aggressive fighter too so he matched with it throwing away the defense, a fist to fist fight.
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I still favor pacquiao to win. My reason is, I like the style of playing pacquiao with range blow distance with and with a very fast tempo.
I don't know if you have followed Pacquiao's career because he is not as what he is used to be. Everyone really loves how the way he fights, very fast hands and power specially his left. However, it has started to deteriorate as you can see in his last fight with Jeff Horn, although most of us thinks that he was robbed. He is not as fast and it looks like he is very cautious as well. But just like a real Pacquiao fans, we wanted him to win his fight against Lucas Mattysse and hope he is doesn't give that much damage because his health will really be affected down the line because of boxing.
He become very cautious when he loss with marquez in just a single blow,because of over confidence he since he had won over marquez in the past he thinks he can easily kill him but unfortunately what happens the other way around because before hi did know out marquez he  received a single job that rapidly bring him to dead in the ring.

Though his speed is good still but hes mind has a small part of hesitation that it wont haplen again,becaus since then hes fans becomes cold to him
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I still favor pacquiao to win. My reason is, I like the style of playing pacquiao with range blow distance with and with a very fast tempo.
I don't know if you have followed Pacquiao's career because he is not as what he is used to be. Everyone really loves how the way he fights, very fast hands and power specially his left. However, it has started to deteriorate as you can see in his last fight with Jeff Horn, although most of us thinks that he was robbed. He is not as fast and it looks like he is very cautious as well. But just like a real Pacquiao fans, we wanted him to win his fight against Lucas Mattysse and hope he is doesn't give that much damage because his health will really be affected down the line because of boxing.
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I still favor pacquiao to win. My reason is, I like the style of playing pacquiao with range blow distance with and with a very fast tempo.
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Pacquiao hits out at 'saboteurs' of Matthysse fight

Looks like postponement issues are being thrown out to the upcoming fight between Manny Pacquiao and Lucas Matthysse. Not really sure about the benefits of these thrown issues by some of the people concern but I think it can't distract the focus of 2 fighters while doing their daily regime as part of conditioning in their bout.

As far as the latest news is concern, parties involved (not just a simple parties but "big parties") doesn't see any problem why postponement will happened so just let them bring it on and disregard those negative issues.
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After pacquiao's consecutive loses i lost my sympathy about him,as if i am seeing different boxer in ring this past few fights of foghting senator..

But for this fight i think I'll bet on pacquiao again,as i saw a advantageous of philippine boxer over his opponent,if there would be some betting i guess i will be on this tims

I hope you are right mate because his opponent is one of the hardest hitting during his time. And we all know that his chin has been broken by Marquez already, so if by chance Lucas hits Pacquiao perfectly, it will be very ugly. However, he is really training very hard for this fight because he wants to prove that he can still fight and give his fans a good show so let's see if Manny still has it otherwise, its really time for him to retire.
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After pacquiao's consecutive loses i lost my sympathy about him,as if i am seeing different boxer in ring this past few fights of foghting senator..

But for this fight i think I'll bet on pacquiao again,as i saw a advantageous of philippine boxer over his opponent,if there would be some betting i guess i will be on this tims
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I'm bit surprised that he's able to carry himself so far and his body is yet supporting him, may be he's inspired by rocky it ain't over I heard no bell, just kidding on a serious note irrespective of the outcome he should retire and not make his body suffer anymore, when you're on the wrong side of age taking such stunts are not nice. It'll be nothing less than a miracle if he wins this.
Agree, Manny should have retired after the Jeff Horn fight. He has nothing to proved and he is a sure Hall Of Famer. If he value his health and life, this should be his last fight.
He did not retire because he think he has still more to offer and that fight was not really convincing.
I think this would be the time that Manny will retire if he will get dominated in this fight, but as a true pacman fan, I would still bet on him.
The problem with that kind of mindset is that most of the boxers who are at a crossroads suffers worst defeat. Just look at Roy Jones, how many times he got KTFO before he decided to quit. We don't want to see that happen to Manny. Although what we can do? As fight fans we all wanted to see him fight for a long time but it's not gonna happen. Sooner or later he will retire. I do hope that what ever the outcome of his fight against Lucas Mattyse, he will quit with his health intact and wait for him to be inducted in the Boxing Hall of Fame.
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Winding down.
I'm bit surprised that he's able to carry himself so far and his body is yet supporting him, may be he's inspired by rocky it ain't over I heard no bell, just kidding on a serious note irrespective of the outcome he should retire and not make his body suffer anymore, when you're on the wrong side of age taking such stunts are not nice. It'll be nothing less than a miracle if he wins this.
Agree, Manny should have retired after the Jeff Horn fight. He has nothing to proved and he is a sure Hall Of Famer. If he value his health and life, this should be his last fight.
He did not retire because he think he has still more to offer and that fight was not really convincing.
I think this would be the time that Manny will retire if he will get dominated in this fight, but as a true pacman fan, I would still bet on him.
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I'm bit surprised that he's able to carry himself so far and his body is yet supporting him, may be he's inspired by rocky it ain't over I heard no bell, just kidding on a serious note irrespective of the outcome he should retire and not make his body suffer anymore, when you're on the wrong side of age taking such stunts are not nice. It'll be nothing less than a miracle if he wins this.
Agree, Manny should have retired after the Jeff Horn fight. He has nothing to proved and he is a sure Hall Of Famer. If he value his health and life, this should be his last fight.
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I'm bit surprised that he's able to carry himself so far and his body is yet supporting him, may be he's inspired by rocky it ain't over I heard no bell, just kidding on a serious note irrespective of the outcome he should retire and not make his body suffer anymore, when you're on the wrong side of age taking such stunts are not nice. It'll be nothing less than a miracle if he wins this.
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Pacman is going to completely destroy Mattysse, people seem to think that just because Pacquiao has gone into politics that somehow he's not a beast anymore. The guy has an amazing record. He barely lost to the GOAT mayweather, so I really don't see him having much of a challenge in this fight. It will probably go the distance, but it should be a UD.

Yes he was a beast before but he's still human and getting aged by the years so somehow there's a chance of having him under of Matthyse. I mean Matthyse is more young and can move more in the ring. Well, I see Pacquiao how fought in the ring but maybe he should just focus now in his political career and just retire and leave the ring while it's never too late.

As per Pacquiao:

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"I am not saying it will be the last, but it will be the basis for (me) to think about (whether) to continue or not. So I am trying my best and doing our best in the training in this fight to show if I can still do it or not," Pacquiao told AFP.

https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-matthysse-fight-provide-basis-continue-not--128265

So it looks like the Pacman is contemplating on retirement. Maybe at the back of his mind he can still pull the trigger. But he knows that if he loses this one then its time to hang up the gloves for good and concentrate on his political career. So let's see how everything turns out. IF he gives us a good showing then just maybe he still have 1 good fight to give his fans, otherwise, its about time. We can all relieved his glory though in Youtube. hehehehe.

But why bring his body and get bang because we all know that his opponent hits very hard as well? And that is the difference between him and Floyd, both are around in the 40's already but Manny looks older and Floyd looks fresher than his age. Don't wait till he get another Marquez KO, just say "I'm done" and that's it.
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Pacman is going to completely destroy Mattysse, people seem to think that just because Pacquiao has gone into politics that somehow he's not a beast anymore. The guy has an amazing record. He barely lost to the GOAT mayweather, so I really don't see him having much of a challenge in this fight. It will probably go the distance, but it should be a UD.

Yes he was a beast before but he's still human and getting aged by the years so somehow there's a chance of having him under of Matthyse. I mean Matthyse is more young and can move more in the ring. Well, I see Pacquiao how fought in the ring but maybe he should just focus now in his political career and just retire and leave the ring while it's never too late.

As per Pacquiao:

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"I am not saying it will be the last, but it will be the basis for (me) to think about (whether) to continue or not. So I am trying my best and doing our best in the training in this fight to show if I can still do it or not," Pacquiao told AFP.

https://www.boxingscene.com/pacquiao-matthysse-fight-provide-basis-continue-not--128265

So it looks like the Pacman is contemplating on retirement. Maybe at the back of his mind he can still pull the trigger. But he knows that if he loses this one then its time to hang up the gloves for good and concentrate on his political career. So let's see how everything turns out. IF he gives us a good showing then just maybe he still have 1 good fight to give his fans, otherwise, its about time. We can all relieved his glory though in Youtube. hehehehe.
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Pacman is going to completely destroy Mattysse, people seem to think that just because Pacquiao has gone into politics that somehow he's not a beast anymore. The guy has an amazing record. He barely lost to the GOAT mayweather, so I really don't see him having much of a challenge in this fight. It will probably go the distance, but it should be a UD.

Yes he was a beast before but he's still human and getting aged by the years so somehow there's a chance of having him under of Matthyse. I mean Matthyse is more young and can move more in the ring. Well, I see Pacquiao how fought in the ring but maybe he should just focus now in his political career and just retire and leave the ring while it's never too late.
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Here's an update about this upcoming fight. We all know already that Freddie Roach will not join the training camp of Senator Manny Pacquio for this fight. Aside from Buboy Fernandez, Senator Manny added Dodie Boy Peñalosa and Jon Peñalosa and in the team plus Nonito Donaire Sr (father of Fil-Am boxer Nonito Donaire Jr.) was also tapped to help Senator Manny to prepare for his fight with Matthysse.

For me those guys are 'old skool', No disrespect to Dodie Boy or Nonito Donaire Sr, but Manny has trained with Roach and made a lot of progress under his tutelage but shifting to Dodie and Donaire Sr. at this stage will not do good for Manny in my opinion. Don't get me wrong here, we all love Manny, but what new tricks this 2 can offer to Manny though?

This fight is so interesting especially for Manny Pacquioa who never fought for almost a year and so busy on his political life as Philippine Senator, I do hope to see more action on the boxing ring.

By the way did you know that Senator Manny Pacquioa would launch his own crypto currency you can read the details here.

Yes we all know that Manny had already get his hand on crypto as well. He is a famous sports figure and I lot of fans and I'm sure that this news was all in the radar even before the launch.
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