Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 106. (Read 31627 times)

And with the pressure from the fans maybe it will also bring both camps into the table, I mean boxing is a business for sure both sides wants not just the hypes for their career but more so with the money that they'll going to earn if ever the fight will take place, I see your point and I agree with you, if Inoue lose against Fulton and he decide to stay the chance to fight Casimero might happen, if both fighters are really aiming to meet each other inside the ring, that scenario will bring them closer to each other.

Well, sometimes haymakers are fun to watch too, the likes of Isaac Cruz who's very aggressive but at the same time doesn't let his guard down. That fight against Tank was a close one. Anyway, defensive boxers like Mayweather are undeniably boring to watch, but boxing enthusiast sees it as thing of beauty.  However, that style of boxing is not going to attract more fans, because we all want to see a fighter who is technically skilled to KO any opponent. That is how Loma, Pacquiao, and Inoue got their fans.

I disagree, technical fighters are great to watch as long as they are not a match between two technical defensive boxer (this match will make its viewer fell asleep lol).  There are technical offensive boxer like Lomachenco and Pacquiao where they can adjust their boxing style according to the strategy of their opponent.   It is better to watch two technical aggressive boxer than just two aggressive boxer where two aggressive boxer often ends up like  street brawl.

That would be an early present for the people if it will be rumored that John Riel Casimero and Naoya Inoue is up next, considering that Inoue have lost his first title chase at 122. But if Inoue will succeed, Tapales will surely accept the challenge of unifying the belts as aside from it is what they wanted in the first place, it's already a win-win for Tapales regardless of the result as he could be looking at the biggest paycheck in his whole career.

As per Boxing Scene, Casimero holds the 5th position in the rankings of WBO while 8th position in WBC. I don't know if this is already updated or what but Casimero is already moving towards the top.
As per The Ring, Casimero and Inoue is not yet in the Top 10 spot at 122.

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Links for reference:
https://www.ringtv.com/ratings/?weightclass=284
https://www.boxingscene.com/rankings

Please feel free to quote below if there is a much better link when it comes to seeing the rankings per weight class.

Yup! He needs to be active for sure if he wants to catch up and get the full PPV when the time his fight with Naoya it will be a grand fight for sure, I want to see him fight certain boxers that could give him the edge and experience he needed not just picked fight, I really think they thought that Fillipus Nghitumbwa will be a walk in the park fight but surely it is proven that Fillipus Nghitumbwa is durable but Casimero has the edge on the speed that is why he got so many punches on Fillipus Nghitumbwa, for me there is no more making excuses for Casimero he needs to focus on the fight ahead and never underestimate his opponent I want to see him fight a boxer with a belt in that division before he fights Naoya Inoue, that will be a sure loaded fight for him, I am sure to be rooting for that fight but for now it is too early I don't really want what I see when he fights Fillipus Nghitumbwa, for me he needs to train more,


Well for me I like it more technically just like playing chess if you don't put any strategy and all you do it just attack without even planning any defense and counter there is no point in getting in a brawl when I was starting in analyzing boxers I really thought that it is just brawling, speed and power nothing more, the sure essential need of a boxer training those muscles and planning those movements and surely analyzing the opponent as well so he knows when and where to counter for me boxing is also like chess it surely needs technical analysis on it,

Not only that, it will be the biggest purse of Tapales for sure and it will also be a privilege to fight one of the best and to pound for pound. Just watching how Inoue dismantle Emmanuel Rodriguez in two rounds, reminds me of Manny Pacquiao knocking out Eric Morales and saying no mas.

He is really being held highly by the WBO. Casimero is their former champion in 118 lbs and actually he didn't lost the belt in a fight. It's that he can't make the weight anymore. He needed another good dancing partner to bring the best out of Casimero.

That's what I see too if ever Naoya Inoue is defeated by Fulton. It increases the chances of Casimero finally having that bout against the boxer who he really wants to fight for a long time. Because if Inoue wins, he will pursue the other two belts which means it will be Marlon Tapales who will be next instead of Casimero and I doubt the camp of Tapales could easily avoid that especially if they also have a chance to unite all 4 titles in the process.
If Inoue wins again, he might go up another weight class so he should be defeated.

Regarding ranks, I think Casimero is also in the high spot in WBO now after defeating Fillipus Nghitumbwa for the Global Super Bantam Title. The chances they will meet are getting thicker after winning 9 consecutive bouts. Maybe one more win for Casimero and they can start making a trend about their fight.

Yeah, stay active and fight decent fighters in the ranking. He is also not getting any younger so his next fight should be with WBO. He organization love this guy so most likely he will be given a mandatory fight next year assuming he stays active.


This is Haney's last fight with Top Rank and most likely he will move up to 140 lbs. Although there is a enticing fight with Shakur Stevenson. But Shakur is under Top Rank. So let's see what will be the Haney's next move.


Oh so this is Melvin's first defense of his title. So this is against a Puerto, this could be a banger and hopefully Melvin retains his belt.

Whenever in Fútbol or boxing, even in any other sport, as I have said before, what he has to put in is a lot of brains, but here things can change when he not only puts in muscle and technique, the strategies in any sport are what will make us better than others, and intelligence will always be the prototype that will distinguish us all, as far as I am concerned, at least in boxing I like it better when a fight is not focused technically, because it seems boring, so don't take away the emotion from this.

Sad to say that I was one of the people who underestimated Filipus Nghitumbwa just because I leaned of the fact that he's unknown and assumed that he is not that strong which brings me back that this Filipus might just fight for survival just like what the Cuban boxer did, Rigondeau, that just wasted everybody's time by running in circles.
But Filipus proved me wrong and credits for him for that because he can definitely eat the Filipino boxer's punches and stay poised even if he was knocked down in the middle of their fight.

Fortunately, Casimero had a good fight which gave him a good experience here at super-bantam and hopefully he remains active and grab more fights this year while he can still make it because he definitely needed more fights to lift his name towards the top names and be a mandatory fighter someday.

There is no need to worry about that because I bet Casimero already knew about his situation and the opportunity he can get if he continue to fight actively, thus, I believe that he will fight at least one more before this year ends because he needed to catch-up with the time he wasted and while his weight is not giving him any struggles. Soon enough!

We don't know what's really next for now as there could be a rematch between Haney and Lomachenko because these promoters and organizers will surely take advantage while the people are calling for that fight unless Haney himself will avoid that. But if ever there will be no rematch, and if there will be no mandatory, maybe he will pick Shakur as these two have been in the headlines too for quite some time and they have their own rivalry way back in their amateur years.

Casimero has to stay active if it wants to get a title shot next year. He is not getting younger as well so he better stay focused on the remaining years of his career. There are only 2 champions in the division which make it more difficult for Casimero to get a title shot. Both champions are also keen on unifying each other. The IBF is expected to issue a mandatory probably next year and hopefully, the WBC won't make their own mandatory so Casimero still has time to become a mandatory, probably by the WBO. 

Meanwhile, Eddie Hearn the former promoter of Devin Haney might make a move to take him back to DAZN mentioning the names of 140 WBC champion Regis Prograis and GBP's Ryan Garcia as potential opponents inside the network. Jack Catterall is also another fighter Matchroom signed and will surely be in the mix.

4 title fights this weekend:
Matchroom/DAZN- Featherweight champ, Mauricio Lara (26-2-19 KOs) will defend his WBA belt against Leigh Wood (26-3-16 KOs) in a rematch.
Boxxer/Sky Sports(UK)- WBO cruiser champion Lawrence Okolie (19-0-14 KOs) defends his belt against Chris Billam-Smith (17-1-12 KOs).
Top Rank-Queensberry/ESPN-BT Sport(UK)- Luis Alberto Lopez's (27-2-15 KOs) first defense of his IBF belt against Michael Conlan (18-1-9 KOs).
Golden Boy Promotions/DAZN- Minimumweight champion Melvin Jerusalem's(20-2-12 KOs) first defense of his WBO belt against Oscar Collazo (6-0-4 KOs).

Let's say Fulton spoils the chance and we have Inoue that just got defeated in his first fight at 122, (although I'm not hoping for that to happen) that is a much better way because Casimero's chances to face Inoue is likely to happen much sooner especially if Casimero will make another bout before this year ends so that his ranking will increase further until he will be inside the Top 3 to 5.

Other than that, Fulton have also said that he will leave the division regardless of the result and if it turns out that Inoue has been defeated. We might see Casimero and Inoue chasing for the belts that was vacated by Fulton as I know both of them is targeting those said belts in the first place.

Regardless though, if Casimero wanted to fight Inoue then he will have to:

a. fight again, but this time with a rank fighter
b. just ignore what Inoue will do in the future

So at least what Casimero has is that he has full control of his future. Whatever happens to Fulton vs Inoue remains to be seen. All he has to do is really break barrier in this 122 lbs and win a fight against a good boxer, like the likes of Akaho or Nghitumbwa (no offense to them).

There is a huge possibility for a Naoya Inoue VS John Riel Casimero to take place now that Casimero is in the same division as Inoue, the only thing that Casimero needs to do is secure a belt so Naoya Inoue will not have any alibi in not getting the fight

But my issue with Casimero does he know what he is doing. Is he ready to fight Naoya Inoue I think it is too early for him, I think he needs to make a fight 1st that his fans would say that there is no doubt that Naoya Inoue can not win against Casimero, because I am still seeing that Casimero is likely doesn't have a chance he must do something about this,


I really wish John Riel Casimero can strike another champion in this division so if Casimero and Inoue's fight comes it will be one epic fight and this could surely produce a big event and PPV that will be remembered by all their fans and likely followers, I really love that idea, but it is up to John Riel Casimero if he just like Naoya Inoue as his opponent but this is what I see

Unless Fulton spoiled the chance, I mean Inoue needs to be a champ then Casimero might have that chance if his ranking will continue to rank up, once Inoue already holding the belt chances for the possible negotiation or mandatory between these two former 118lbs champ might take place, if destiny bring them together for sure it will be a good challenge between them.

Both want each other, though it will still depend on how promoters and handlers will negotiate to proceed with the possible scheduled.

in my opinion at this moment Casimero should focus on improving himself first and then he can think about fighting Inoue, but for now the casemiro should get Inoue out of his mind, I had already commented on that before, boxing currently It's not just about fighting anymore, it's also about money, fight promoters try to organize fights that get a lot of attention so that they will make a lot of profit, and the casemiro had a big ladder on him that all he needed to do was climb quickly to the top. ladder that with that he would have a lot of attention from fight promoters, fighters and the whole marketing machine, but casemiro had difficulties in his last fight causing all the great expectations of many people to fall into that fight

for many people casemiro would win by a knockout, it was almost 100% guaranteed for many people and even guys who analyze fights on youtube had this great expectation, but during the fight people started to get real, casemiro was not overcoming his opponent a lot, and it was a fight that looked like his opponent was also a great former champion of some division and at the end of the fight most of the comments I could read didn't see the casemiro prepared to fight Inoue at that moment , which is why I very much doubt that Inoue's team is giving importance to the casemiro at this moment

I bet a time like that will come soon and that Inoue will find himself again in the same position as before when they were still at the bantamweight and in this instance, Casimero might not be a champion yet but he is already much closer in-terms of the rankings and that gives him more chance to be picked for a mandatory fight for the championship belt holders.

Still a long way for both fighters. If mandatory might take place, then for sure it will be good news for all the fans who really love to see
both fighters are inside the same ring.

I like that possibility in where both fighters will not have any chance to decline the fight, though in this sport fighters still have that option to cancel the fight.

Hoping to see if the possibility will take place in between these two great fighters.

I really want to see John Riel Casimero fight Naoya Inoue but in my opinion, his fight with Fillipus Nghitumbwa is not really great at all, it is OK Fillipus Nghitumbwa is a real shocker at 1st glance he seems not a dangerous fighter but if that fight have turned in favor with Fillipus Nghitumbwa it could get ugly for Casimero, I want to see Casimero fight 2 more times and even get a belt in his division again before he can face Naoya Inoue, I just feel that he will not withstand punches from Inoue at all,


For always  not backing down, I should say this is the right time to think before he accepts anything that Fillipus Nghitumbwa's fight was a real banger and it was like Casimero's power punches weren't really effective against Fillipus Nghitumbwa or Nghitumbwa surely has a good chin or a durable body that can withstand the damage, but surely we can not see the real reaction of Fillipus Nghitumbwa for saying that he can really withstand those punches,