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It appears we have another boxer who will be very exciting similar to how Manny Pacman was during his challenges in different weight divisions. However, Naoya Inoue's mission is to be the first male boxer to unify all championships in 2 different divisions. According to this article he mentioned that he will be in the ring again on April or May! I speculate him to challenge Akhmadaliev first, before a unification superfight against Stephen Fulton on December.

He also mentioned that his body can reach the limit to featherweight.

Naoya Inoue became the ninth fighter to unify all four major titles in boxing's four-belt era.

Inoue is now looking to become the only male fighter to accomplish the feat in two weight classes.

"I believe I'm going to aim for it," Inoue said. "We'll need to develop a thorough plan."

The Japanese star will be heading up to 122-pounds, after knocking out British fighter Paul Butler in eleven rounds to unify the IBF, WBO, WBA, WBC world bantamweight titles.

Inoue plans to return on a date in April or May of the coming year.

The world titles at 122-pounds are owned by two undefeated fighters, Uzbekistan's Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Stephen Fulton of the United States - with each boxer holding two belts.

Source https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-i-go-far-featherweight--171207

Compete higher. I would love to see this happen. Make history. Break records. I bet the fighters in that weight division are itching to have a piece of Naoya Inoue but they will have to wait. I mean, who doesn't love good competition and fresh blood? Cheesy

"Thorough plan." Yes, he will need it as this is a new jungle that he will be up against. He may have dominated his weight class but I am sure the boxers in the next will not just give him what he wants to happen.
Challenges will pour out in his schedule.

Interesting to wait if who among these title holders will be Inoue's target to deal with and call for a challenge fight,
his comeback to formally announce his plan to move up will bring a big hype.

After dominating his current division, it will be a big challenge to him, those belt holders from 122lbs are also
excited to face him.

It would be a good risk for Inoue and whoever champ that he will challenge.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 10, 2023, 12:15:20 AM

However, Naoya Inoue's mission is to be the first male boxer to unify all championships in 2 different divisions.

I was going to say Canelo is already unify all belts in 2 different divisions, but after I check his record, he missed the WBO middleweight title while he already get WBA, WBC, IBF and The Ring belts, not sure why Canelo jump to super middleweight at that time.

Quote from: danherbias07 on January 10, 2023, 05:26:28 AM

Compete higher. I would love to see this happen. Make history. Break records. I bet the fighters in that weight division are itching to have a piece of Naoya Inoue but they will have to wait. I mean, who doesn't love good competition and fresh blood? Cheesy

"Thorough plan." Yes, he will need it as this is a new jungle that he will be up against. He may have dominated his weight class but I am sure the boxers in the next will not just give him what he wants to happen.
Challenges will pour out in his schedule.

Either Fulton or Akhmadaliev, they both are strong boxer and can't be taken down easily. We're know Canelo was fought everyone in super middleweight, but when he jump to light heavyweight, he's lose the fight.

I think it's better for Inoue to fight with Daniel Roman first, because Roman already fought Fulton and Akhmadaliev, although he lose the two fight.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 10, 2023, 12:15:20 AM

It appears we have another boxer who will be very exciting similar to how Manny Pacman was during his challenges in different weight divisions. However, Naoya Inoue's mission is to be the first male boxer to unify all championships in 2 different divisions. According to this article he mentioned that he will be in the ring again on April or May! I speculate him to challenge Akhmadaliev first, before a unification superfight against Stephen Fulton on December.

He also mentioned that his body can reach the limit to featherweight.

Naoya Inoue became the ninth fighter to unify all four major titles in boxing's four-belt era.

Inoue is now looking to become the only male fighter to accomplish the feat in two weight classes.

"I believe I'm going to aim for it," Inoue said. "We'll need to develop a thorough plan."

The Japanese star will be heading up to 122-pounds, after knocking out British fighter Paul Butler in eleven rounds to unify the IBF, WBO, WBA, WBC world bantamweight titles.

Inoue plans to return on a date in April or May of the coming year.

The world titles at 122-pounds are owned by two undefeated fighters, Uzbekistan's Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Stephen Fulton of the United States - with each boxer holding two belts.

Source https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-i-go-far-featherweight--171207

Compete higher. I would love to see this happen. Make history. Break records. I bet the fighters in that weight division are itching to have a piece of Naoya Inoue but they will have to wait. I mean, who doesn't love good competition and fresh blood? Cheesy

"Thorough plan." Yes, he will need it as this is a new jungle that he will be up against. He may have dominated his weight class but I am sure the boxers in the next will not just give him what he wants to happen.
Challenges will pour out in his schedule.

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It appears we have another boxer who will be very exciting similar to how Manny Pacman was during his challenges in different weight divisions. However, Naoya Inoue's mission is to be the first male boxer to unify all championships in 2 different divisions. According to this article he mentioned that he will be in the ring again on April or May! I speculate him to challenge Akhmadaliev first, before a unification superfight against Stephen Fulton on December.

He also mentioned that his body can reach the limit to featherweight.

Naoya Inoue became the ninth fighter to unify all four major titles in boxing's four-belt era.

Inoue is now looking to become the only male fighter to accomplish the feat in two weight classes.

"I believe I'm going to aim for it," Inoue said. "We'll need to develop a thorough plan."

The Japanese star will be heading up to 122-pounds, after knocking out British fighter Paul Butler in eleven rounds to unify the IBF, WBO, WBA, WBC world bantamweight titles.

Inoue plans to return on a date in April or May of the coming year.

The world titles at 122-pounds are owned by two undefeated fighters, Uzbekistan's Murodjon Akhmadaliev and Stephen Fulton of the United States - with each boxer holding two belts.

Source https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-i-go-far-featherweight--171207

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I completely missed the Gervonta Davis VS Hector Garcia fight, and didn't make a bet for it, but watching the recap it was an amazing fight but it was an intense fight I have seen a different Gervonta Davis in the later round because Hector Garcia really is baiting Davis for him to counter while Gervonta Davis is learnings and studying Hector Garcia, and he will surely go with the bait of Garcia, but it was a fight of baiting his opponent because Gervonta Davis is also baiting Garcia aswell, it was a real mental fight for both fighters to initial a beautiful bait but surely Tank Davis experience and sturdiness and power made Hector Garcia retired in the fight,

Well right now a little time left maybe it will start soon, is a fight from japan and it was called the 96th Phoenix Battle

and here in the poster we can see that it says, the future monster takes the field! pertaining to Naoya Inoue's signature name and this youth to be the next in line in the future,

There is also a fight in the Philippines called Bakbakan where the future next Pacman might appear but surely it will surely suffice in the future I will not show the cards but you can all check it out in Tapology,

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 08, 2023, 06:30:50 PM

Quote from: Baofeng on January 08, 2023, 10:23:07 AM

The Ellis hype train though has ended in this fight, hehehe. And also Ennis, I guess there is always a first time, as he was extended by Karen to 12 rounds but it was a complete domination by Jaron to win every rounds. So no more Ennis vs Ellis fight in the future, too bad, they hype it already during the press con in this fight.

I lost both my bets on those two fights as I took the early ending for Ennis to win and the same for Ellis.
Karen was as tough as hell and gave Ennis a difficult time getting a knockdown.
Villa on the other end dominated Ellis. I was just curious why he felt like he won that fight when interviewed, I mean, how many knockdowns were that?
That's all score for Villa.

Quote from: Baofeng on January 08, 2023, 10:23:07 AM

As what we expected, Davis won but not after a tough and need some rounds to figure out Hector Garcia. But the ring IQ of Davis is one of the best in the game and keep on hitting that same spot of the eye of Garcia. And the total accumulation, as he did the damage was enough and his eye was hurt. And if the boxer complains that he can't see, then it's gonna be over. Hopefully the eye is not that damage to the extend that it needed a repair or something.

Davis was patient, but Garcia was not. When he started to put his hands down, he gave Davis the biggest chance he could have. I gave Garcia most of the rounds and if it ended UD, there's a high chance the judges might also give him the win (assuming every round will be the same). But we will never know, maybe if he continued it will be worst.
Thankfully, his coaching side is good and checked him first before letting him stand again.
I also hope it will not be a bad injury but from the looks of it, his head might've just shaken a bit.

Yeah, unfortunately, some of us lost that Ennis and Ellis bet as well, Ennis is expected to finished the fight early as he was a huge favorite going into this fight and we thought that it will not even last 3 rounds. But Karen was very tough and durable and doesn't want to go down in this fight and continue to stand in front of Ennis, although we can see that he was frustrated at times.

As for Ennis, again, the hype on him has gone, second time that Villa has pulled an upset as a underdog.

I guess for Ennis he can't accept the defeat, but him getting knockdown twice says enough. And Villa says that it is just a matter of time because he can land that big shot because he knows that Ennis will get tired and that's exactly what happen and that knockdown was a big swing on points on his favor.

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You see no reason for referees using a headset inside the ring but when they do, that is something to really wonder why. There were just hypotheses about referees getting instructions from the top where they could just raise the hand of a fighter that obviously fated to win even before the fight started.

Maybe true, maybe not. We can't just associate that with a form of cheating as maybe, that serves another purpose. Although, who knows?

Generally, from judges to referees, there's really a chance to manipulate results especially if the fight turned out close.

Because of that, I remember the Bivol-Canelo bout where there are speculations that if the fight instead turned out close the whole time, judges can easily score more points for Canelo every round. This fight turned the underdog Bivol into a superstar overnight.

It does serves another purpose because the count has to be synched and referees need some guide from the outside because there might be some angle that the referees are not aware or haven't saw. But still, these headsets raises some suspicious issues because they are really the ones who know what's going on behind that ear piece.

And yes, I definitely agee, Canelo has been favored a lot lately when it comes to close fights that needed a judge to rule and give the outcome. There's no doubt that if Bivol didn't show a dominant performance, he's likely a nobody today who have no belts because in that fight, judges will actually favor Canelo. But Bivol made an outstanding performance which literally upsets the crowd/bookies/judges favorite and made a fight that can't be helped by the judges.

The organization should take a closer look on this, if there's a lot of doubt that already spreading regarding to that earpiece issue
then they should act right away and prevent the ref to use it.

It's still good to see a clean fight without any angle of cheating or any concern with manipulations, I get the point where judges
can ruined the outcome if the fight ended close.

That example with Bivol, and how he dominates the fight to avoid any manipulation or control of the judges those are legit.

That is if the industry can really sacrifice the referee's earpiece as it is also an important tool for them in every given fight, they should think for another method as well to minimize this practice because the uncertainties from the people will always develop regarding the fight especially if it's an important match-up. Every year, there will be a technology that will be develop so maybe the industry can benefit from it soon.

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Quote from: Kasabus on January 08, 2023, 06:56:07 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on January 05, 2023, 02:27:08 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on January 05, 2023, 10:45:25 AM

You see no reason for referees using a headset inside the ring but when they do, that is something to really wonder why. There were just hypotheses about referees getting instructions from the top where they could just raise the hand of a fighter that obviously fated to win even before the fight started.

Maybe true, maybe not. We can't just associate that with a form of cheating as maybe, that serves another purpose. Although, who knows?

Generally, from judges to referees, there's really a chance to manipulate results especially if the fight turned out close.

Because of that, I remember the Bivol-Canelo bout where there are speculations that if the fight instead turned out close the whole time, judges can easily score more points for Canelo every round. This fight turned the underdog Bivol into a superstar overnight.

It does serves another purpose because the count has to be synched and referees need some guide from the outside because there might be some angle that the referees are not aware or haven't saw. But still, these headsets raises some suspicious issues because they are really the ones who know what's going on behind that ear piece.

And yes, I definitely agee, Canelo has been favored a lot lately when it comes to close fights that needed a judge to rule and give the outcome. There's no doubt that if Bivol didn't show a dominant performance, he's likely a nobody today who have no belts because in that fight, judges will actually favor Canelo. But Bivol made an outstanding performance which literally upsets the crowd/bookies/judges favorite and made a fight that can't be helped by the judges.

The organization should take a closer look on this, if there's a lot of doubt that already spreading regarding to that earpiece issue
then they should act right away and prevent the ref to use it.

It's still good to see a clean fight without any angle of cheating or any concern with manipulations, I get the point where judges
can ruined the outcome if the fight ended close.

That example with Bivol, and how he dominates the fight to avoid any manipulation or control of the judges those are legit.

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Quote from: goinmerry on January 05, 2023, 02:27:08 PM

Quote from: bittraffic on January 05, 2023, 10:45:25 AM

You see no reason for referees using a headset inside the ring but when they do, that is something to really wonder why. There were just hypotheses about referees getting instructions from the top where they could just raise the hand of a fighter that obviously fated to win even before the fight started.

Maybe true, maybe not. We can't just associate that with a form of cheating as maybe, that serves another purpose. Although, who knows?

Generally, from judges to referees, there's really a chance to manipulate results especially if the fight turned out close.

Because of that, I remember the Bivol-Canelo bout where there are speculations that if the fight instead turned out close the whole time, judges can easily score more points for Canelo every round. This fight turned the underdog Bivol into a superstar overnight.

It does serves another purpose because the count has to be synched and referees need some guide from the outside because there might be some angle that the referees are not aware or haven't saw. But still, these headsets raises some suspicious issues because they are really the ones who know what's going on behind that ear piece.

And yes, I definitely agee, Canelo has been favored a lot lately when it comes to close fights that needed a judge to rule and give the outcome. There's no doubt that if Bivol didn't show a dominant performance, he's likely a nobody today who have no belts because in that fight, judges will actually favor Canelo. But Bivol made an outstanding performance which literally upsets the crowd/bookies/judges favorite and made a fight that can't be helped by the judges.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 08, 2023, 10:23:07 AM

The Ellis hype train though has ended in this fight, hehehe. And also Ennis, I guess there is always a first time, as he was extended by Karen to 12 rounds but it was a complete domination by Jaron to win every rounds. So no more Ennis vs Ellis fight in the future, too bad, they hype it already during the press con in this fight.

I lost both my bets on those two fights as I took the early ending for Ennis to win and the same for Ellis.
Karen was as tough as hell and gave Ennis a difficult time getting a knockdown.
Villa on the other end dominated Ellis. I was just curious why he felt like he won that fight when interviewed, I mean, how many knockdowns were that?
That's all score for Villa.

Quote from: Baofeng on January 08, 2023, 10:23:07 AM

As what we expected, Davis won but not after a tough and need some rounds to figure out Hector Garcia. But the ring IQ of Davis is one of the best in the game and keep on hitting that same spot of the eye of Garcia. And the total accumulation, as he did the damage was enough and his eye was hurt. And if the boxer complains that he can't see, then it's gonna be over. Hopefully the eye is not that damage to the extend that it needed a repair or something.

Davis was patient, but Garcia was not. When he started to put his hands down, he gave Davis the biggest chance he could have. I gave Garcia most of the rounds and if it ended UD, there's a high chance the judges might also give him the win (assuming every round will be the same). But we will never know, maybe if he continued it will be worst.
Thankfully, his coaching side is good and checked him first before letting him stand again.
I also hope it will not be a bad injury but from the looks of it, his head might've just shaken a bit.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 08, 2023, 02:45:59 AM

Okay, so that ends it.

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Gervonta Davis def. Hector Luis Garcia via eighth-round TKO
Jaron Ennis def. Karen Chukhadzhian via unanimous decision (120-108, 120-108, 120-108)
Roiman Villa def. Rashidi Ellis via majority decision (114-112, 114-112, 113-113)
Demetrius Andrade def. Demond Nicholson via unanimous decision (100-88, 100-88, 100-88)

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/gervonta-davis-vs-hector-luis-garcia-fight-results-live-boxing-updates-scorecard-start-time-undercard/live/

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Garcia repeatedly told his corner "I can't see" in between rounds and the fight is over! Davis does it again, having some rocky moments before scoring the fight-ending shot.

I really thought Garcia can prolong it until it becomes a UD but he felt that last shot in the 8th round.
His soul went out, he was out and yet still fighting and standing. I am amazed he can make it until that round with all the banging in his head and also he didn't fall. Garcia is a great fighter indeed with a lot of heart.

Davis already said in his interview, the other Garcia (Ryan) will be next in April. He will be back to training after celebrating for a week or two.

The Ellis hype train though has ended in this fight, hehehe. And also Ennis, I guess there is always a first time, as he was extended by Karen to 12 rounds but it was a complete domination by Jaron to win every rounds. So no more Ennis vs Ellis fight in the future, too bad, they hype it already during the press con in this fight.

As what we expected, Davis won but not after a tough and need some rounds to figure out Hector Garcia. But the ring IQ of Davis is one of the best in the game and keep on hitting that same spot of the eye of Garcia. And the total accumulation, as he did the damage was enough and his eye was hurt. And if the boxer complains that he can't see, then it's gonna be over. Hopefully the eye is not that damage to the extend that it needed a repair or something.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 08, 2023, 02:45:59 AM

Davis already said in his interview, the other Garcia (Ryan) will be next in April. He will be back to training after celebrating for a week or two.

This is really anticipated and both will be preparing for this upcoming fight, we all know that both fighters are eager to win from one another and it will be concluded once they already inside the ring and throwing their best combinations to win the fight, I see that Davis still will get the favor of bookies here and for those who loves to bet with the underdog, Ryan is someone that they can take as it worth the risk betting with him.

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Okay, so that ends it.

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Gervonta Davis def. Hector Luis Garcia via eighth-round TKO
Jaron Ennis def. Karen Chukhadzhian via unanimous decision (120-108, 120-108, 120-108)
Roiman Villa def. Rashidi Ellis via majority decision (114-112, 114-112, 113-113)
Demetrius Andrade def. Demond Nicholson via unanimous decision (100-88, 100-88, 100-88)

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/gervonta-davis-vs-hector-luis-garcia-fight-results-live-boxing-updates-scorecard-start-time-undercard/live/

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Garcia repeatedly told his corner "I can't see" in between rounds and the fight is over! Davis does it again, having some rocky moments before scoring the fight-ending shot.

I really thought Garcia can prolong it until it becomes a UD but he felt that last shot in the 8th round.
His soul went out, he was out and yet still fighting and standing. I am amazed he can make it until that round with all the banging in his head and also he didn't fall. Garcia is a great fighter indeed with a lot of heart.

Davis already said in his interview, the other Garcia (Ryan) will be next in April. He will be back to training after celebrating for a week or two.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 07, 2023, 07:09:40 PM

Unfortunate event as the highly anticipated match between Stanionis and Vergil Ortiz Jr. will not happen per schedule date of March 18 due to Eimantas Stanionis will have a appendectomy surgery.

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One of the most anticipated fights on the boxing calendar has been hit with a delay.

WBA ‘Regular’ welterweight titlist Eimantas Stanionis was hospitalized and forced to undergo appendectomy surgery on Friday, thus postponing his planned title defense versus mandatory challenger Vergil Ortiz Jr.

https://www.boxingscene.com/eimantas-stanionis-forced-go-emergency-appendectomy-surgery-vergil-ortiz-fight-postponed--171656

So this is another setback since Stanionis is the WBA regular champion, and possible the winner of this fight could be the mandatory belt for the WBA Welterweight (super) held by Spence.

Hopefully once the surgery is done and totally healed, this two will still face each other in the future, both undefeated boxers and in their prime and as I have said, could have a shot against the top dog right now, in Errol Spence.

This is bad news indeed, as there are a lot of eliminators in the 147 lbs since Spence has the 3 belts for this weight division. In any case though, it might extend Spence reign and probably the won't be force to give up his WBA super belt because obviously he can't defend it to his mandatory.

While there is looming fight for him this April as the name Keith Thurman might be his next fight.

And then we also have Ennis as well fighting for the interim belt in IBF as the Davis-Hector Garcia undercard, so he too can have a shot at Spence in the future if he wins here.

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But despite of these numerous needs of the referees to wear some form of headset, people are still not complacent by the fact because they don't know what's going on behind it. It's best give the respective camps some headwears too so that there won't be an anomaly and a suspicion won't be raised because they can also hear what's going on behind these headsets.

Speaking of these headset concerns, I think that was just for communicating with the panel.

In the panel, I truly believed that not all personnel there will likely participate in the ongoing manipulation if there's any. If they will do some shitting with the results and speak that to the referee, they will likely be heard by those people around them.

Besides, the announcement of the winner won't be decided by the referees. They will just raise the hands of the winner. The manipulation will be at the hands of the judges and no need for them to speak with the referees thru headsets.

Too many conspiracies as for these headsets, people are forgetting that it will still be visible on who is clearly going to be the winner of a match. I agree that it could just be for communication and you are right that it is still the judges that will give points unless there is a clear KO or TKO for which is visible to everyone ans not just for the ref.

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Unfortunate event as the highly anticipated match between Stanionis and Vergil Ortiz Jr. will not happen per schedule date of March 18 due to Eimantas Stanionis will have a appendectomy surgery.

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One of the most anticipated fights on the boxing calendar has been hit with a delay.

WBA ‘Regular’ welterweight titlist Eimantas Stanionis was hospitalized and forced to undergo appendectomy surgery on Friday, thus postponing his planned title defense versus mandatory challenger Vergil Ortiz Jr.

https://www.boxingscene.com/eimantas-stanionis-forced-go-emergency-appendectomy-surgery-vergil-ortiz-fight-postponed--171656

So this is another setback since Stanionis is the WBA regular champion, and possible the winner of this fight could be the mandatory belt for the WBA Welterweight (super) held by Spence.

Hopefully once the surgery is done and totally healed, this two will still face each other in the future, both undefeated boxers and in their prime and as I have said, could have a shot against the top dog right now, in Errol Spence.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 07, 2023, 03:25:21 AM

But despite of these numerous needs of the referees to wear some form of headset, people are still not complacent by the fact because they don't know what's going on behind it. It's best give the respective camps some headwears too so that there won't be an anomaly and a suspicion won't be raised because they can also hear what's going on behind these headsets.

Speaking of these headset concerns, I think that was just for communicating with the panel.

In the panel, I truly believed that not all personnel there will likely participate in the ongoing manipulation if there's any. If they will do some shitting with the results and speak that to the referee, they will likely be heard by those people around them.

Besides, the announcement of the winner won't be decided by the referees. They will just raise the hands of the winner. The manipulation will be at the hands of the judges and no need for them to speak with the referees thru headsets.

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Referees wearing headset will really raise some suspicion to the public, even if they will have a valid reason for it, people and the respective camps will of course doubt as they don't know what's going on with the headset thing as they don't know what the referees are hearing. Anyway, are they using some kind of headset nowadays? I don't know that, if yes, then that shouldn't be allowed to prevent the referees from clouding their judgement.

If there's a doubt that may develop better not to allow refs to have that kind of headset, we can't tell what they are
hearing or what are the real purpose of those headsets.

It's better to not to have that kind of device while you are in the middle of the fight as doubt may develop if there's a problem
with fair judging.

Best to remove any possible ways to question any judgements.

There is a need for a head set, the count must be sync with the counter and it is provided by the headset. Aside from that, there might be some crucial instruction that needed to implement such as telling the referee that he is so lapse sided and need more focus in officiating the fight or instructing the referee about the missed call fouls like low blows, elbows etc. Or have an instruction to check the condition of the boxer and have it checked by the ring side physician when their cut is too deep to continue.

But despite of these numerous needs of the referees to wear some form of headset, people are still not complacent by the fact because they don't know what's going on behind it. It's best give the respective camps some headwears too so that there won't be an anomaly and a suspicion won't be raised because they can also hear what's going on behind these headsets.

If I'm not mistaken, the count is in sync with the time keeper and before the referee starts his count, he will confirm it first where the count is before he officially starts the count, so I don't think the referee needs to wear something.

I guess maybe in the amateur ranks this could be effective, but in pro I don't think this kind of headwears will be helpful. On the contrary, I would agree that it will just raise more suspicions that anything else.

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Quote from: mirakal on January 06, 2023, 10:34:45 AM

Referees wearing headset will really raise some suspicion to the public, even if they will have a valid reason for it, people and the respective camps will of course doubt as they don't know what's going on with the headset thing as they don't know what the referees are hearing. Anyway, are they using some kind of headset nowadays? I don't know that, if yes, then that shouldn't be allowed to prevent the referees from clouding their judgement.

If there's a doubt that may develop better not to allow refs to have that kind of headset, we can't tell what they are
hearing or what are the real purpose of those headsets.

It's better to not to have that kind of device while you are in the middle of the fight as doubt may develop if there's a problem
with fair judging.

Best to remove any possible ways to question any judgements.

There is a need for a head set, the count must be sync with the counter and it is provided by the headset. Aside from that, there might be some crucial instruction that needed to implement such as telling the referee that he is so lapse sided and need more focus in officiating the fight or instructing the referee about the missed call fouls like low blows, elbows etc. Or have an instruction to check the condition of the boxer and have it checked by the ring side physician when their cut is too deep to continue.

But despite of these numerous needs of the referees to wear some form of headset, people are still not complacent by the fact because they don't know what's going on behind it. It's best give the respective camps some headwears too so that there won't be an anomaly and a suspicion won't be raised because they can also hear what's going on behind these headsets.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 06, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

^^ You might as well be interested in this fight,

Rashidi Ellis vs. Roiman Villa, 12 rounds, welterweights

Yeah, saw the clip between Ennis and Ellis, how old is Ellis though, he seems to be talking about a fight that has been offered to him years ago, the fight that Manny did take as a comeback fight, against Lucas Matthysse. So I'm thinking why just now?

Quote from: Baofeng on January 06, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

During the press con, Ellis and Ennis has some heated arguments so it might be interesting to see if this two are going to face each other in the future although Ennis is looking for the big boys in the division specially Spence. But who knows, they already started trash talking and maybe if Ennis can't get a fight with Spence or Crawford then probably Ellis might be a good choice for him.

Again we will see if Ellis is just pure talk or what. If he has been in the ring more than Ennis, then he needs to get back into his act and make a statement win.

Quote from: Baofeng on January 06, 2023, 05:00:19 PM

Demetrius Andrade vs. Demond Nicholson fight as well, Andrade is trying to get into the mix fighting the sweepstakes in Canelo so let's see. He has been opening his mouth and always talking trash against Alvarez whenever he can.

Everyone is barking on Canelo, for me Andrade is way past his prime.

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