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Quote from: Japinat on February 23, 2023, 11:36:07 AM

Is it already a mandator fight between Callum Smith and Beterbiev? As far as I know, the 3-belt champion is not yet due for another mandatory title defense, correct me if I'm wrong though. But hopefully that it's not yet the case because a unification fight in the light-heavyweight is the one that people wanted and in-fact, avid fans waited for quite a long time. In the end, WBC will be a huge hurdle.

For this fight to be to fruition Callum Smith would need to defeat Pawel Stepien on March 11th, so he can get his mandated fight for the WBC against Artur Beterbiev, so the Artur Beterbiev VS Dmitry Bivol will not happen but Hearn has said he wants this fight to happen in Abu Dhabi but yeah it was a hurdle for that two to fight or collide, but yeah the Callum Smith VS Beterbiev is in the horizon if Smith defeats Pawel Smith because if not there are no chance for Callum to face Beterbiev for a title shot,

Quote from: freedomgo on February 23, 2023, 02:32:32 PM

Can't really blame Paul Butler for his action as he just have to do what he had to do because it was his only chance to get a massive amount of money because getting a fight with the likes of Inoue will surely generate a good amount of money amounting to millions of dollars, that's guaranteed.

About the other champion at 122 which is Akhmadaliev, yes, Inoue will eventually face him much sooner but not for now because he doesn't possess the WBO belt. Now as a super champion, Inoue got the perk to go directly against Fulton because he got the WBO belt.

For sure every boxer wants millions of money in return for the fight who would not? surely Paul Butler has the intention of that accepting the fight and a chance to unify the belts that Inoue possesses, but surely we have all seen what happened in that fight Naoya Inoue Dominantly defeats Paul Butler while Butler already knows that he doesn't have any chance in beating Inoue and had aimed for the fight to go the distance but to no avail, he was drop by the devastating blows from Naoya Inoue,

And right now Naoya Inoue is going to greater heights and for the next unification he can achieve and I am really waiting for his chance to come,

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 22, 2023, 04:01:06 PM

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Quote from: turneps on February 22, 2023, 03:22:06 AM

Inoue easily won against Paul Butler, conquering all opponents in the Bantamweight division, Inoue decided to increase the weight class. His opponent in the new Super Bantamweight class is most likely Fulton .
Fulton holds two world championship belts, WBO and WBC, is the world No. 1 boxer in this weight class. Against Fulton, Inoue will surely face the biggest and most difficult test ever.
I look forward to having a confrontation as soon as possible .

Not most likely because Stephen Fulton is indeed Inoue's first assignment in his transfer at 122, hence why we have a separate thread about Inoue vs Fulton.
Read here: https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/35474707/naoya-inoue-stephen-fulton-agree-122-pound-title-bout
The thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-stephen-fulton-vs-naoya-inoue-wbc-wbo-122-lbs-bout-july-25-5436075

And about Inoue's recent fight with Butler, it's almost guaranteed the Inoue will unify all the belts and become the undisputed champion even before their fight commenced because it's too plain to see that Butler doesn't have what it takes to defeat a champion caliber especially if we are talking about him facing the Monster of Japan, the man won't surely be touted as such if he's not really that kind of boxer.

Yeah, there was just hype on Butler before the fight, and it's obvious that he wanted to make some noise. However, when the fight started, it's obvious that he is no match, but still commend him for staying and almost last the full 12 rounds but he has been taking a lot of punishments in the fight.

There is also another champion in that division Murodjon Akhmadaliev who holds the other 2 belts.

So can't say that Fulton is the no. 1 boxer in that weight class.

Can't really blame Paul Butler for his action as he just have to do what he had to do because it was his only chance to get a massive amount of money because getting a fight with the likes of Inoue will surely generate a good amount of money amounting to millions of dollars, that's guaranteed.

About the other champion at 122 which is Akhmadaliev, yes, Inoue will eventually face him much sooner but not for now because he doesn't possess the WBO belt. Now as a super champion, Inoue got the perk to go directly against Fulton because he got the WBO belt.

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Quote from: Silberman on February 22, 2023, 03:30:10 PM

Quote from: yazher on February 22, 2023, 04:15:27 AM

Right now I am excited to see the progress in negotiations between Beterbiev and Bivol because this is the best fight we could have this year if they won't gonna delay it. based on this source, they will gonna try to make it happen in June and I think that would be best for both of them to prepare for real war against each other.

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I wonder how Bivol will deal with that destructive power of Beterbiev, his few punches will gonna make him lose his defense in just a matter of 3 rounds if Bivol is not careful and ready to take those superpower punches.

I hope it happens but I am not so sure it could happen during this summer since the WBC has ordered Beterbiev to fight Callum Smith, and if the aim of Bivol is to make some more money before facing Beterbiev then he could fight Canelo again in September and then fight Beterbiev until 2024, but even if the fight were delayed I think that both of them are confident on getting the win and I do not see them ducking each other for long.

Is it already a mandator fight between Callum Smith and Beterbiev? As far as I know, the 3-belt champion is not yet due for another mandatory title defense, correct me if I'm wrong though. But hopefully that it's not yet the case because a unification fight in the light-heavyweight is the one that people wanted and in-fact, avid fans waited for quite a long time. In the end, WBC will be a huge hurdle.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 23, 2023, 05:08:52 AM

Most likely it was Fulton and Figueroa headlining this event but this main undercard is now lifted as its main event. This is another good fight. Subriel Matias is probably the more polished but I am hoping for Jeremias Ponce to score an upset. Hopefully, Ponce won't be too reckless with his aggression because Matias is also a KO artist. The biggest names in their division are all in Top Rank, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, Teofimo Lopez, and the possibility of Devin Haney coming up too. And we may not see Matias facing them due to his contract with PBC so it is better and more exciting for boxing if Ponce wins.

Yes, It was initially Stephen Fulton VS Brandon Figueroa but for some unknown reasons it was not disclosed to the media I don't see any news about the fight cancellation anywhere, but apparently, maybe it was the ESPN news on January 16, that Stephen Fulton would instead face Mark Magsayo as Fulton has done a negotiation with the former three-division world champion Naoya Inoue, that hasn't any lead yet but maybe the Stephen Fulton VS Mark Magsayo will be this year, but there are any newer about it,

Well Speaking of the current Main event fight Jeremias Nicolas Ponce indeed have a lot of experience when it comes against Subriel Matias because of his many fights, but you can not take away the Polish movement of Subriel Matias well I am also leaning towards Subriel Matias, for sure he will give a more spicy result but will indeed looking for some other things right because I have made my final bet,

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on February 23, 2023, 02:38:10 AM

This coming February 25, This could be a Stephen Fulton VS Brandon Figueroa fight but it was canceled or it was rumored to be in this event we are still having a great event and for me, I would surely make my pick here I haven't seen any other thread about this fight so check this out

Showtime Championship Boxing: Matias vs. Ponce

Saturday 02.25.2023
Promotion: TGB Promotions
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota
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Most likely it was Fulton and Figueroa headlining this event but this main undercard is now lifted as its main event. This is another good fight. Subriel Matias is probably the more polished but I am hoping for Jeremias Ponce to score an upset. Hopefully, Ponce won't be too reckless with his aggression because Matias is also a KO artist. The biggest names in their division are all in Top Rank, Josh Taylor, Jose Ramirez, Teofimo Lopez, and the possibility of Devin Haney coming up too. And we may not see Matias facing them due to his contract with PBC so it is better and more exciting for boxing if Ponce wins.

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This coming February 25, This could be a Stephen Fulton VS Brandon Figueroa fight but it was canceled or it was rumored to be in this event we are still having a great event and for me, I would surely make my pick here I haven't seen any other thread about this fight so check this out

Showtime Championship Boxing: Matias vs. Ponce

Saturday 02.25.2023
Promotion: TGB Promotions
Location: Minneapolis, Minnesota

IBF World Super Lightweight Title
MAIN EVENT

Subriel Matias VS Jeremias Nicolas Ponce

CO-MAIN EVENT

Jamal James VS Alberto Palmetta

MAIN CARD

Elvis Rodriguez VS Joseph Adorno

PRELIMINARY CARD

Kudratillo Abdukakhorov VS Ve Shawn Owens
Mickel Spencer VS Margarito Hernandez
Derrick Jackson VS Willie Jones
Jonathan Lopez VS Eduardo Diogo
Breeon Carothers VS Kevin Schmidt
Adam Kownacki VS Devin Vargas

CANCELLED CARD

Stephen Fulton VS Brandon Figueroa

All information was from TAPOLOGY

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Quote from: Silberman on February 22, 2023, 03:30:10 PM

Quote from: yazher on February 22, 2023, 04:15:27 AM

Right now I am excited to see the progress in negotiations between Beterbiev and Bivol because this is the best fight we could have this year if they won't gonna delay it. based on this source, they will gonna try to make it happen in June and I think that would be best for both of them to prepare for real war against each other.

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I wonder how Bivol will deal with that destructive power of Beterbiev, his few punches will gonna make him lose his defense in just a matter of 3 rounds if Bivol is not careful and ready to take those superpower punches.

I hope it happens but I am not so sure it could happen during this summer since the WBC has ordered Beterbiev to fight Callum Smith, and if the aim of Bivol is to make some more money before facing Beterbiev then he could fight Canelo again in September and then fight Beterbiev until 2024, but even if the fight were delayed I think that both of them are confident on getting the win and I do not see them ducking each other for long.

Just like what he did against Canelo, he will use volume punching to throw off Beterbiev in the early rounds. Bivol also has a lot of gas tank and he can do it the whole 12 rounds.

And just like Yarde did to Beterbiev early, the problem with his is that he doesn't have a huge lungs and when Beterbiev caught him, it's over. So this fight is going to be big, two champions in the LHW class, both Russians. But then again, it might not be easily made as they have different promoters and network affiliations.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 22, 2023, 03:39:36 PM

Quote from: turneps on February 22, 2023, 03:22:06 AM

Inoue easily won against Paul Butler, conquering all opponents in the Bantamweight division, Inoue decided to increase the weight class. His opponent in the new Super Bantamweight class is most likely Fulton .
Fulton holds two world championship belts, WBO and WBC, is the world No. 1 boxer in this weight class. Against Fulton, Inoue will surely face the biggest and most difficult test ever.
I look forward to having a confrontation as soon as possible .

Not most likely because Stephen Fulton is indeed Inoue's first assignment in his transfer at 122, hence why we have a separate thread about Inoue vs Fulton.
Read here: https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/35474707/naoya-inoue-stephen-fulton-agree-122-pound-title-bout
The thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-stephen-fulton-vs-naoya-inoue-wbc-wbo-122-lbs-bout-july-25-5436075

And about Inoue's recent fight with Butler, it's almost guaranteed the Inoue will unify all the belts and become the undisputed champion even before their fight commenced because it's too plain to see that Butler doesn't have what it takes to defeat a champion caliber especially if we are talking about him facing the Monster of Japan, the man won't surely be touted as such if he's not really that kind of boxer.

Yeah, there was just hype on Butler before the fight, and it's obvious that he wanted to make some noise. However, when the fight started, it's obvious that he is no match, but still commend him for staying and almost last the full 12 rounds but he has been taking a lot of punishments in the fight.

There is also another champion in that division Murodjon Akhmadaliev who holds the other 2 belts.

So can't say that Fulton is the no. 1 boxer in that weight class.

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Quote from: turneps on February 22, 2023, 03:22:06 AM

Inoue easily won against Paul Butler, conquering all opponents in the Bantamweight division, Inoue decided to increase the weight class. His opponent in the new Super Bantamweight class is most likely Fulton .
Fulton holds two world championship belts, WBO and WBC, is the world No. 1 boxer in this weight class. Against Fulton, Inoue will surely face the biggest and most difficult test ever.
I look forward to having a confrontation as soon as possible .

Not most likely because Stephen Fulton is indeed Inoue's first assignment in his transfer at 122, hence why we have a separate thread about Inoue vs Fulton.
Read here: https://www.espn.ph/boxing/story/_/id/35474707/naoya-inoue-stephen-fulton-agree-122-pound-title-bout
The thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boxing-stephen-fulton-vs-naoya-inoue-wbc-wbo-122-lbs-bout-july-25-5436075

And about Inoue's recent fight with Butler, it's almost guaranteed the Inoue will unify all the belts and become the undisputed champion even before their fight commenced because it's too plain to see that Butler doesn't have what it takes to defeat a champion caliber especially if we are talking about him facing the Monster of Japan, the man won't surely be touted as such if he's not really that kind of boxer.

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Quote from: yazher on February 22, 2023, 04:15:27 AM

Right now I am excited to see the progress in negotiations between Beterbiev and Bivol because this is the best fight we could have this year if they won't gonna delay it. based on this source, they will gonna try to make it happen in June and I think that would be best for both of them to prepare for real war against each other.

Source

I wonder how Bivol will deal with that destructive power of Beterbiev, his few punches will gonna make him lose his defense in just a matter of 3 rounds if Bivol is not careful and ready to take those superpower punches.

I hope it happens but I am not so sure it could happen during this summer since the WBC has ordered Beterbiev to fight Callum Smith, and if the aim of Bivol is to make some more money before facing Beterbiev then he could fight Canelo again in September and then fight Beterbiev until 2024, but even if the fight were delayed I think that both of them are confident on getting the win and I do not see them ducking each other for long.

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Quote from: yazher on February 22, 2023, 04:15:27 AM

Right now I am excited to see the progress in negotiations between Beterbiev and Bivol because this is the best fight we could have this year if they won't gonna delay it. based on this source, they will gonna try to make it happen in June and I think that would be best for both of them to prepare for real war against each other.

Source

I wonder how Bivol will deal with that destructive power of Beterbiev, his few punches will gonna make him lose his defense in just a matter of 3 rounds if Bivol is not careful and ready to take those superpower punches.

Wow, so they really trying to push the negotiation, I agree that if these one will be push, then fans will be there to support, it's a great much between two champs and we all know how both of them showcase their talents. It's more on speed and power that will ignite here. Bivol has that speed while Beterbiev has that KO power to watch out.

I like how they both will take pride defending the belts. I'll look if how Beterbiev will work with Bivol's speed and how Bivol will hold
with Beterbiev's strong punches, whether he will engage or he will find a strategy to avoid that engagement and try to win the fight
with his own way of fighting.

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Right now I am excited to see the progress in negotiations between Beterbiev and Bivol because this is the best fight we could have this year if they won't gonna delay it. based on this source, they will gonna try to make it happen in June and I think that would be best for both of them to prepare for real war against each other.

Source

I wonder how Bivol will deal with that destructive power of Beterbiev, his few punches will gonna make him lose his defense in just a matter of 3 rounds if Bivol is not careful and ready to take those superpower punches.

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He should forget about the monster Inoue though, he had his chance but he blew it already. The first thing that he should do is to capture a belt here. He is now on good position as he bolster and go to rank 5 in the WBO.

Let Fulton vs Inoue fight each other, and then fight the next highest rank that is available to him.

Probably just 2 fights and he will be in for a world title again, regardless of how it is.

It looks likes WBO is also trying to plot a twist on their super bantamweight class to make it more entertaining.
There's a trend before that John Riel Casimero is really pursuing to fight Inoue like a hunter and now that he is on the same class as him, it could really happen anytime as long as he keeps on winning his fights.
I have a feeling that they will meet once Inoue wins against Fulton or the other ending where Inoue needs to prove that he can pursue a rematch for the belt again by fighting another boxer and winning it.
I love what WBO is doing here.

Yes, that is possible scenario for Inoue, and as fans we really love to see that fight as we are robbed by it, when Casimero was stripped of the WBO bantamweight belt because he can't make the weight anymore.

And we all love what the WBO has done here and Casimero can thank them later if the fight materializes against Inoue in the future.

So yeah, for now, lets say Casimero fight another rank contender in this division and wait till he get his chance and hopefully he will do everything in his hand to fight Naoya when Inoue beat Fulton.

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Inoue easily won against Paul Butler, conquering all opponents in the Bantamweight division, Inoue decided to increase the weight class. His opponent in the new Super Bantamweight class is most likely Fulton .
Fulton holds two world championship belts, WBO and WBC, is the world No. 1 boxer in this weight class. Against Fulton, Inoue will surely face the biggest and most difficult test ever.
I look forward to having a confrontation as soon as possible .

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 21, 2023, 11:58:26 PM

He should forget about the monster Inoue though, he had his chance but he blew it already. The first thing that he should do is to capture a belt here. He is now on good position as he bolster and go to rank 5 in the WBO.

Let Fulton vs Inoue fight each other, and then fight the next highest rank that is available to him.

Probably just 2 fights and he will be in for a world title again, regardless of how it is.

It looks likes WBO is also trying to plot a twist on their super bantamweight class to make it more entertaining.
There's a trend before that John Riel Casimero is really pursuing to fight Inoue like a hunter and now that he is on the same class as him, it could really happen anytime as long as he keeps on winning his fights.
I have a feeling that they will meet once Inoue wins against Fulton or the other ending where Inoue needs to prove that he can pursue a rematch for the belt again by fighting another boxer and winning it.
I love what WBO is doing here.

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Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:59:56 PM

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

That's interesting, if given a chance Casimero will not waste any to bring his name back on top, though it's a new division but the good thing here is he might have that chance to fight Inoue, if both will continue to win on their respective upcoming fights the chance that we might see negotiations between both camps is very possible.

Patience is a virtue here. If we hope to see that time will come for both of them inside the same ring, it's really something that might take place.

This move to a higher weight division will be good for Casimero because he had problems in weight cutting before in bantamweight. However, he might wait for a very long time before he can get his opportunity to challenge the monster hehehe. Inoue has his ambition to unify the championships of the super bantamweight division and be the first fighter to do it. This implies that if he is the winner against Fulton he will accept the rematch then he will challenge Akhmadaliev for the unification. It also implies that also this fight will also have a rematch clause.

Casimero should also first prove himself by challenging Fulton or Akhmadaliev if they lose twice each against Inoue. The problem however is Inoue might go higher again to featherweight.

He should forget about the monster Inoue though, he had his chance but he blew it already. The first thing that he should do is to capture a belt here. He is now on good position as he bolster and go to rank 5 in the WBO.

Let Fulton vs Inoue fight each other, and then fight the next highest rank that is available to him.

Probably just 2 fights and he will be in for a world title again, regardless of how it is.

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Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:59:56 PM

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

That's interesting, if given a chance Casimero will not waste any to bring his name back on top, though it's a new division but the good thing here is he might have that chance to fight Inoue, if both will continue to win on their respective upcoming fights the chance that we might see negotiations between both camps is very possible.

Patience is a virtue here. If we hope to see that time will come for both of them inside the same ring, it's really something that might take place.

This move to a higher weight division will be good for Casimero because he had problems in weight cutting before in bantamweight. However, he might wait for a very long time before he can get his opportunity to challenge the monster hehehe. Inoue has his ambition to unify the championships of the super bantamweight division and be the first fighter to do it. This implies that if he is the winner against Fulton he will accept the rematch then he will challenge Akhmadaliev for the unification. It also implies that also this fight will also have a rematch clause.

Casimero should also first prove himself by challenging Fulton or Akhmadaliev if they lose twice each against Inoue. The problem however is Inoue might go higher again to featherweight.

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Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:59:56 PM

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

He is, as per the official WBO website, and it seems it was a recent update on their rankings.

https://wboboxing.com/rankings

Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:59:56 PM

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

WBO recognized Casimero as he is is a one time WBO bantamweight champion and that is good news for Casimero handlers. As you can see on the standings, Azat and Nery just had their fights, so most likely Casimero next fight will be against those names, hopefully it will be against #2 Ra'eese Aleem.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 21, 2023, 02:05:45 PM

Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:59:56 PM

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

That's interesting, if given a chance Casimero will not waste any to bring his name back on top, though it's a new division but the good thing here is he might have that chance to fight Inoue, if both will continue to win on their respective upcoming fights the chance that we might see negotiations between both camps is very possible.

Patience is a virtue here. If we hope to see that time will come for both of them inside the same ring, it's really something that might take place.

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Quote from: harizen on February 20, 2023, 06:59:56 PM

I encountered a Facebook post from the sports page that John Riel Casimero is now ranked #5 in the Super Bantamweight in WBO.

But checking the current rankings, he is still not ranked by the WBO and still, only WBC ranked him. I don't know if that's just a made-up article lol.

I would be happy if that happened since Casimero is now getting an inch closer to a possible title match.

With so many fights that will happen this year, I am sure his rank will go higher as they are all focused on defeating Inoue. New blood, they may want to have a taste of him.
Luis Nery didn't waste the opportunity to go up the ladder and defeated Azat Hovhannisyan in a TKO and now he is getting near the tile.
Casimero, as I checked my favorite rankings website is just below them.
Very soon he will be up against the top contenders and a possibility for his aim to fight Inoue or getting back his championship title.

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