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Quote from: mirakal on February 08, 2023, 03:46:14 PM

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Good thing with Magsayo if he will win his fight against Figueroa and Vargas will step down again and face Magsayo for possible title match, money wise it will give Magsayo decent amount of profits, but first he needs to take care of Figueroa and make sure that he will be ready for Vargas if he decided to go back and negotiate for the possible fight.

Future will be much better for them as they've got that chance to make money with the fans who wanted to see how those fighters will perform.

I love to see that Magsayo will be taking his revenge to a fighter that had beaten him. This fight is his best chance though, he is fighting a good fighter so if he wins this, it only imply that he had learn from his mistakes and have made adjustments to make himself a better fighter.

Vargas vs Magsayo II, that's a good title, and everyone will be interested watching to know if Magsayo will successfully take his revenge, who knows? we might see a trilogy if he wins.

A promising title indeed.
Magsayo had that belt in the first place, he should be able to get a rematch and both promoters' sides should love the idea because it can hoard more money for both camps.
After this fight against Figueroa, he should pursue taking back the WBC title. I just wish it will be a different result when that fight comes.
Figueroa has the same goal as he did challenge Vargas for that title match last July (after he took it from Magsayo) but ended up being denied to get the opportunity because Vargas said he has nothing to gain from it.
This may end up as a great fight as both boxers are aiming to get the title match that they badly want.

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

All we need to do is to wait for Magsayo to win and have that opporntunity to call for a rematch, if he will manage to bring Vargas to the ring for the second time, I'm pretty sure that that the camp already have the adjustments and proper trainings to prapare for this anticipate rematch, Magsayo needs to work out on his stamina and not just the early powerful combinations but a long lasting stamina to stay on the fight once his opponents manages to take his punches and stay standing up to the last round.

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Quote from: mirakal on February 08, 2023, 03:46:14 PM

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Good thing with Magsayo if he will win his fight against Figueroa and Vargas will step down again and face Magsayo for possible title match, money wise it will give Magsayo decent amount of profits, but first he needs to take care of Figueroa and make sure that he will be ready for Vargas if he decided to go back and negotiate for the possible fight.

Future will be much better for them as they've got that chance to make money with the fans who wanted to see how those fighters will perform.

I love to see that Magsayo will be taking his revenge to a fighter that had beaten him. This fight is his best chance though, he is fighting a good fighter so if he wins this, it only imply that he had learn from his mistakes and have made adjustments to make himself a better fighter.

Vargas vs Magsayo II, that's a good title, and everyone will be interested watching to know if Magsayo will successfully take his revenge, who knows? we might see a trilogy if he wins.

A promising title indeed.
Magsayo had that belt in the first place, he should be able to get a rematch and both promoters' sides should love the idea because it can hoard more money for both camps.
After this fight against Figueroa, he should pursue taking back the WBC title. I just wish it will be a different result when that fight comes.
Figueroa has the same goal as he did challenge Vargas for that title match last July (after he took it from Magsayo) but ended up being denied to get the opportunity because Vargas said he has nothing to gain from it.
This may end up as a great fight as both boxers are aiming to get the title match that they badly want.

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

Vargas though has move up in weight in his next fight, so if he is successful then he might not stay and give Magsayo a rematch even if Magsayo win this fight. Unless otherwise he also move up in weight and chase Vargas, but I doubt that will be the plan of Mark.

Maybe down the road they will have to clash again, but right now it's better that Magsayo focused first on his fight and get the belt and make his name relevant again. Let Vargas do his thing at 130 lbs vs Foster.

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Congrats mate. The spread was very small for Artur, but it's still good because you won the game. It was not an easy win for him, good thing he was able to connect with a solid punch that put Yarde down and that was the end of the fight as Yarde could not respond anymore.

Just watch the highlights but I heard the news that he won the fight, he is still undefeated now and with a perfect KO win in all of his fights.

Beterbiev is really a monster, no one can survive from his punch. I think if there's a fight where he can't knock out his opponent, anyone will think the boxer is capable and has a power to compete with Beterbiev. The odds for Beterbiev to win via decision is high too since everyone know Beterbive always knock out every opponents including the strong boxer like Yarde, Smith Jr, Gvozdyk and Browne.

Could Bivol survive for the complete 12 rounds or he will pull an upset against Beterbiev?

Really hard to see how the Beterbiev vs Bivol will turn out. Obviously, Beterbiev has the power, but Bivol has the footprint and the volume punching.

Yes, I do think that Yarde did very good in this fight and judges awarded him as he was ahead in the 2 cards. But it's just a matter on time before he will be caught by Beterbiev's power and that happen. Just very unfortunately that he was doing good until the 8th, and the right hand had a lot of power as you can see in his eyes that he felt that power.

The Beterbiev thing is something unique, but they have to take into consideration that they can do bigger things, if we see how the fight went, I at least expected much more from Yarde, I thought he had another guy in preparation, I really saw that his The training was normal, it didn't go further, and against one of the best like Beterbiev you have to leave everything in training, be as strong as possible and apart from everything you have to be much stronger when the day comes to Fighting, I don't know what Yarde's strategy was, but I saw him with a lack of creation, he fought well, but I really know that he lacked a lot.

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Artur Beterbiev thoroughly enjoyed soaking his gloves in the blood of Anthony Yarde this past weekend. Although he fought courageously, the 31-year-old contender succumbed to the pernicious knockout power of the unified champion.

As Beterbiev stopped and posed for pictures while holding onto his three light heavyweight straps, promoter Eddie Hearn stood motionless in awe. Impressive, amongst a bevy of words in Hearn’s view, first came to mind.

Presently, the current head honcho of Matchroom Boxing has no promotional ties to the newly turned 38-year-old. Nevertheless, that didn't stop him from fantasizing about a certain high-stakes showdown that would deliver in the most violent of ways.

“Canelo vs. Beterbiev is a helluva fight,” said Hearn to BoxingScene.com. “That’s a bloodbath.”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/eddie-hearn-canelo-vs-beterbiev-helluva-fight--172365

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Quote from: mirakal on February 08, 2023, 03:46:14 PM

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

It looks like Magsayo will have a hard time regaining his title since Vargas isn't open for a rematch and does not want a fight that he can gain nothing. So for Magsayo to have a chance for a title fight needs the governing bodies to order Vargas to a mandatory defense against Magsayo. So this time, Magsayo must win convincingly against Figueroa and climb his way to rank 1 contender.

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Today it came out that Jamal Ben Sadik has turned in a positive doping test during his match last year against a Romanian fighter. And he is now suspended for more than 1 year. That also means that there will be no rematch in the match against Rico Verhoeven. He would have different opponents, but otherwise there was a possibility that Verhoeven and Saddik might face each other in December. A line can now finally be drawn through that. I'm always amazed that fighters can get away with it for so long. The fight was in August 2022 and it has only now emerged that Sadik has used doping. It is noteworthy to mention.

It takes some time for an investigation to finish. They need some legal proceedings in order to test everything and that may take months before it can be approved and another months for the sample to be analyzed. So yeah, it will really take time before the decision and investigation to release if there is any issue against a boxer or a fight.

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Today it came out that Jamal Ben Sadik has turned in a positive doping test during his match last year against a Romanian fighter. And he is now suspended for more than 1 year. That also means that there will be no rematch in the match against Rico Verhoeven. He would have different opponents, but otherwise there was a possibility that Verhoeven and Saddik might face each other in December. A line can now finally be drawn through that. I'm always amazed that fighters can get away with it for so long. The fight was in August 2022 and it has only now emerged that Sadik has used doping. It is noteworthy to mention.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 06, 2023, 08:56:24 AM

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Good thing with Magsayo if he will win his fight against Figueroa and Vargas will step down again and face Magsayo for possible title match, money wise it will give Magsayo decent amount of profits, but first he needs to take care of Figueroa and make sure that he will be ready for Vargas if he decided to go back and negotiate for the possible fight.

Future will be much better for them as they've got that chance to make money with the fans who wanted to see how those fighters will perform.

I love to see that Magsayo will be taking his revenge to a fighter that had beaten him. This fight is his best chance though, he is fighting a good fighter so if he wins this, it only imply that he had learn from his mistakes and have made adjustments to make himself a better fighter.

Vargas vs Magsayo II, that's a good title, and everyone will be interested watching to know if Magsayo will successfully take his revenge, who knows? we might see a trilogy if he wins.

A promising title indeed.
Magsayo had that belt in the first place, he should be able to get a rematch and both promoters' sides should love the idea because it can hoard more money for both camps.
After this fight against Figueroa, he should pursue taking back the WBC title. I just wish it will be a different result when that fight comes.
Figueroa has the same goal as he did challenge Vargas for that title match last July (after he took it from Magsayo) but ended up being denied to get the opportunity because Vargas said he has nothing to gain from it.
This may end up as a great fight as both boxers are aiming to get the title match that they badly want.

That is the thing right there, Vargas is not open to give opportunities to the boxer he once defeated or if he can't gain anything from fighting them. Although, let's still hope that if Magsayo will prevail on this fight successfully, Vargas will give him a chance to redeem his belt that was once on his possession and make a rematch. This speculated bout will be a good fight soon because Magsayo managed to knock down Vargas, right? And this time, I'm sure Magsayo will train much harder in-order to commit a different outcome.

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Quote from: harizen on February 05, 2023, 05:35:37 PM

To simply explain this:

- if Rey Vargas will win against Foster, likely he will continue his journey at 130lbs and will give up his 126lbs title
- if Rey Vargas will lose against Foster, he will return to 126lbs as a champion and will mandatory face the winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa for his title defense match
- if Rey Vargas will finally move up to 130lbs as a champion, the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa will be elevated as a full champion

Someone can correct me on this if I missed something.

Yeah, I think that's the summary of it.
He is playing safe so that he will stay a champion even if he loses against Foster. Or, he will just test the waters of how much the difference is between the two weight classes and maybe he would prepare one more time (if he loses) while defending the other title. It's a good strategy if boxers are not decided if they want to climb the ladder.
Unlike what Inoue did giving everything up so he could focus more on his new class rather than being dragged back by the old as many will try to steal the belt from him.

Quote from: Baofeng on February 07, 2023, 06:01:00 PM

@danherbias07 - I'm looking at this fight going to full 12 rounds and Vargas by decision.

Still good @2.04 odds, hehehehe.

Yes, there are backers of Foster as well that's why the odds keeps on moving.

I will take it now before it changes again. Cheesy

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Quote from: Bananington on February 06, 2023, 04:15:01 PM

Anthony Joshua will be looking to make his return back to boxing after his loosing streak that made him go private for a while and away from any further fight. This will be an important fight for him on the 1st of April and I cannot imagine how bad it will be for his career and him if he looses again to a fighter like Jermaine Franklin. Jermaine Franklin may look like an easy opponent for Anthony Joshua, but anything is still possible and maybe Franklin intends to use this opportunity to impress as well and show that he can fight high profiled boxers.

If he losses this one, this it might be over for Joshua's career as it's hard to pick up the pieces with his 2 loses with Usyk and then against a relatively unknown in Franklin. So he need to win this one very badly and he should by a big statement win so that his name could still be in the discussion for a mega fight with Tyson Fury, all British showdown.

Quote from: Bananington on February 06, 2023, 04:15:01 PM

Who is your favorite for this fight? If you will bet, who will you bet on?

Joshua will indeed be the favorite here, but I wouldn't bet on the ML for him. It's better to skip this fight as least for me.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 07, 2023, 11:01:31 AM

Anybody else think it’s a little strange that Jake Paul already has his next fight lined up and he hasn’t even fought Tommy Fury yet? Is that normal in boxing? It seems strange to me that it doesn’t really matter who wins or loses this Paul/Fury fight if the next event with KSI is already lined up. This will probably fuel the fire of a conspiracy that all of Jake Paul’s fights are rigged. I don’t believe that for whatever it’s worth.

No, it's not normal in boxing, but Jake Paul is on a whole league of his own, which is exhibition matches, and he has become a manager as well, so he can dictate the terms as to who will be his next fight after Tom Fury (if this fight is going to happen).

@danherbias07 - I'm looking at this fight going to full 12 rounds and Vargas by decision.

Still good @2.04 odds, hehehehe.

Yes, there are backers of Foster as well that's why the odds keeps on moving.

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Quote from: OgNasty on February 07, 2023, 11:01:31 AM

Anybody else think it’s a little strange that Jake Paul already has his next fight lined up and he hasn’t even fought Tommy Fury yet? Is that normal in boxing? It seems strange to me that it doesn’t really matter who wins or loses this Paul/Fury fight if the next event with KSI is already lined up. This will probably fuel the fire of a conspiracy that all of Jake Paul’s fights are rigged. I don’t believe that for whatever it’s worth.

Basing up on what i have searched
Jake Paul next fight: ‘Problem Child’ vs. Tommy Fury in February
https://sportsnaut.com/jake-paul-next-fight/

So i dont know if its cancelled or not and talking already about KSI. I cant be sure about being rigged with those Pauls fight but it is really hard
to believe on.

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Anybody else think it’s a little strange that Jake Paul already has his next fight lined up and he hasn’t even fought Tommy Fury yet? Is that normal in boxing? It seems strange to me that it doesn’t really matter who wins or loses this Paul/Fury fight if the next event with KSI is already lined up. This will probably fuel the fire of a conspiracy that all of Jake Paul’s fights are rigged. I don’t believe that for whatever it’s worth.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 06, 2023, 11:08:33 AM

So here is the odds for Vargas vs Foster,

ML is Vargas @1.54 and Foster @2.50

Vargas by KO @6.20
Foster by KO @6.00

Vargas by decision @1.99
Foster by decision @3.90

All taken from Stake, so it looks like Rey Vargas by decision might be a good odds to bet. I'm expecting this to be a brawl, but it could go to the judges scored and perhaps Vargas edging Foster.

Thanks. It actually changed. @2.04 for Rey Vargas and @3.70 for Oshaquie Foster.
That's how fast it could be in just a day of missing the odds. I guess there are also gamblers who are predicting for Foster to win this match.

The lowest would be the bet for "Will the fight go the distance?" @1.31
Spectators and analysts might be predicting this to end in a UD but just don't have the accuracy to predict who will be the winner in the end. I think that's the safest bet of all.
Vargas not having any KO in his last recent fights, but Foster has some mixed results in his last fights.
This is kind of difficult to decide on whom and what to bet for.

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Quote from: Bananington on February 06, 2023, 04:15:01 PM

Anthony Joshua will be looking to make his return back to boxing after his loosing streak that made him go private for a while and away from any further fight. This will be an important fight for him on the 1st of April and I cannot imagine how bad it will be for his career and him if he looses again to a fighter like Jermaine Franklin. Jermaine Franklin may look like an easy opponent for Anthony Joshua, but anything is still possible and maybe Franklin intends to use this opportunity to impress as well and show that he can fight high profiled boxers.

Don't get me wrong, the gap difference between Joshua and Franklin is really huge. The reason why Joshua lose his last two fights because he's want get back all of his belts. He was start from the bottom and almost become an undisputed heavyweight champion, he only lack of The Ring belt. Joshua is experienced and have fought many good boxers, while Franklin only win against weak boxers, his biggest fight was against Dillian Whyte, but he lose.

99% bettors will go for Joshua, but the odds is really small and not worth to bet.

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Anthony Joshua will be looking to make his return back to boxing after his loosing streak that made him go private for a while and away from any further fight. This will be an important fight for him on the 1st of April and I cannot imagine how bad it will be for his career and him if he looses again to a fighter like Jermaine Franklin. Jermaine Franklin may look like an easy opponent for Anthony Joshua, but anything is still possible and maybe Franklin intends to use this opportunity to impress as well and show that he can fight high profiled boxers.

Who is your favorite for this fight? If you will bet, who will you bet on?

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Quote from: mirakal on February 06, 2023, 07:07:48 AM

Vargas vs Magsayo II, that's a good title, and everyone will be interested watching to know if Magsayo will successfully take his revenge, who knows? we might see a trilogy if he wins.

The rematch is only possible to happen:

- if Rey Vargas fails in his attempt to get the vacant WBC Super Featherweight Title against O'Shaquie Foster on February 11
- if Mark Magsayo will win against Brandon Figueroa in their WBC Featherweight interim bout on March 4

It's not making sense for Vargas to pursue the Super Featherweight Title and be able to win it, then return to 126. He will surely move forward with the new division if he wins. That makes him out of contention in the 126. Not unless in the future, Magsayo will also consider moving up to 130, he might meet Vargas again.

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Quote from: Fredomago on February 06, 2023, 03:17:30 AM

Good thing with Magsayo if he will win his fight against Figueroa and Vargas will step down again and face Magsayo for possible title match, money wise it will give Magsayo decent amount of profits, but first he needs to take care of Figueroa and make sure that he will be ready for Vargas if he decided to go back and negotiate for the possible fight.

Future will be much better for them as they've got that chance to make money with the fans who wanted to see how those fighters will perform.

I love to see that Magsayo will be taking his revenge to a fighter that had beaten him. This fight is his best chance though, he is fighting a good fighter so if he wins this, it only imply that he had learn from his mistakes and have made adjustments to make himself a better fighter.

Vargas vs Magsayo II, that's a good title, and everyone will be interested watching to know if Magsayo will successfully take his revenge, who knows? we might see a trilogy if he wins.

Same here, I believe he can still make a difference against Vargas and will get his revenge by taking the belt again on Vargas's possession. But that's still a long way for now because even if Magsayo got some decent chance over Figueroa, we still can't underestimate him that easily because just like Magsayo, the man got skills.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on February 06, 2023, 08:56:24 AM

Magsayo had that belt in the first place, he should be able to get a rematch and both promoters' sides should love the idea because it can hoard more money for both camps.
After this fight against Figueroa, he should pursue taking back the WBC title. I just wish it will be a different result when that fight comes.

If the goal is to just get the WBC Title, no need for Magsayo to clash with Vargas again in a rematch.

Let's say Magsayo won this interim fight against Figueroa and Vargas won against Foster, the latter won't surely bother to return to 126 and he will finally give up the title he got to Magsayo. Then Magsayo will be elevated his status to regular champion and will continue his journey again in the 126.

Just a what-if though but likely to happen as I'm biased toward Magsayo lol.

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As enticing as a Vargas-Magsayo II to happen, I don't think Magsayo is even a favorite to win against Brandon Figueroa whose only loss was a very close decision to Stephen Fulton in a unification fight. And I think Rey Vargas will successfully win his 3rd division belt which makes the rematch becoming more difficult. I honestly, would like to see an improved Magsayo when he fights Figueroa. Hopefully, he is not the same Magsayo that has limited stamina and has difficulty when facing a brawler. Because if not, Figueroa will take him into deep waters and stops him.

Everybody in this division wants former WBA champion Luis Santa-Cruz because he is the biggest money-maker in this division. The same reason why the corrupt WBA allowed him to hostage the real WBA belt for years despite being already inactive in the division. Magsayo wanted to unify with LSC before. And then Vargas also chased for an LSC fight after taking the WBC belt.

This is going to be the hardest fight of Magsayo, Figueroa is a former champion and likes to take punches to give punches, this is going to be a slugfest because both fighters like to move forward, I agree that Magsayo's stamina is a big concern especially if he is fighting the like of Figueroa, hopefully, his team can do something on this, he needs a good nutritionist and also a good conditioning coach to be able to last a full 12 rounds of a slugfest.
I'm still hoping Magsayo can pull this one, to keep the legacy of Manny Pacquiao.

Yes, Figueroa can also take those solid punches and absorb it so Magsayo needs to have more stamina to last the fight, it was his weakness when he tried to defend his belt but unfortunately he loses the fight, now it is his chance to climb back and I'm hoping that the team behind him already have a best solution with regarding to this exposed weakness.

I'm also with you. I'm aiming for Magsayo to win this fight and hopefully make his way to bring more hypes and more belts under his name.

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So here is the odds for Vargas vs Foster,

ML is Vargas @1.54 and Foster @2.50

Vargas by KO @6.20
Foster by KO @6.00

Vargas by decision @1.99
Foster by decision @3.90

All taken from Stake, so it looks like Rey Vargas by decision might be a good odds to bet. I'm expecting this to be a brawl, but it could go to the judges scored and perhaps Vargas edging Foster.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 06, 2023, 09:37:14 AM

As enticing as a Vargas-Magsayo II to happen, I don't think Magsayo is even a favorite to win against Brandon Figueroa whose only loss was a very close decision to Stephen Fulton in a unification fight. And I think Rey Vargas will successfully win his 3rd division belt which makes the rematch becoming more difficult. I honestly, would like to see an improved Magsayo when he fights Figueroa. Hopefully, he is not the same Magsayo that has limited stamina and has difficulty when facing a brawler. Because if not, Figueroa will take him into deep waters and stops him.

Everybody in this division wants former WBA champion Luis Santa-Cruz because he is the biggest money-maker in this division. The same reason why the corrupt WBA allowed him to hostage the real WBA belt for years despite being already inactive in the division. Magsayo wanted to unify with LSC before. And then Vargas also chased for an LSC fight after taking the WBC belt.

This is going to be the hardest fight of Magsayo, Figueroa is a former champion and likes to take punches to give punches, this is going to be a slugfest because both fighters like to move forward, I agree that Magsayo's stamina is a big concern especially if he is fighting the like of Figueroa, hopefully, his team can do something on this, he needs a good nutritionist and also a good conditioning coach to be able to last a full 12 rounds of a slugfest.
I'm still hoping Magsayo can pull this one, to keep the legacy of Manny Pacquiao.

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