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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2023, 08:11:27 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 03:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

I agree, it is better for Magsayo to be slick, and quick and must launch a scoring punch rather than a knock-out punch. This way he can compete against Vargas in scoring. Besides not putting much of force on the punches can render him more mobile and quick. He should know when to launch heavy knockout punches and the scoring punches. Sadly, Magsayo is all brawn and not using his brain during the fight against Vargas.

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Quote from: TravelMug on February 16, 2023, 05:15:25 AM

^^ I think Jack Catterall and Josh Taylor can still fight in the future if they are going to win their respective fight. And I think both has a tougher opponents, Teo Lopez might be a good test for Josh Taylor and even if he become the odds favorite, it will be close.

Prograis is a champion and so no easy fight for Jack Catterall. But I wouldn't be surprised if Regis won on a the judges scorecard against Jack here. I think Prograis has the tools to beat Catterall.

They can surely meet each other someday but the point is, Jack Catterall should have only the right to fight Josh Taylor next and no one else. Their first meeting is too close that it needs a rematch right away but the injury got it temporarily delayed. Jack is even willing to wait until Taylor is eligible to fight.

Because of the sudden turn of events, Jack now needs to face another challenge before having a fight again with Taylor.

The worst thing that can happen is, it's not even sure that Jack will face Taylor next, for let's say they have won both their respective fights.

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I don't like the idea of him picking the same race like having a fight against another Filipino who's also aiming for the belt. But who knows, this is boxing and the position is vacated so, they can have each others hand on line and pull it.

If that's how it will go, then no choice but to face each other. Besides, it's not really in Donaire's camp to decide who will be his next opponent.

For now, who's gonna be the one that will be put as a mandatory fighter to challenge the WBC Bantamweight is still in question.

Let's follow the progress of that story.

I agree with you, although we don't want to see both Filipino boxers fighting as we only have few boxers who reach at a high level, but this is business, it defends on the organization and everytime a boxer will have a fight, they always sees it as an opportunity to shine, regardless of whom they'll face for that particular fight.

We should move on with that kind of mentality, I guess it's better to see Filipinos fighting against each other for the championship belt. Sooner or later it will happen, we've seen Donaire vs Gaballo already so we might see another one as there is another name like Astrolabio. Their goal is to win belts for the Filipinos so that they will enjoy another world champion. There were time that there are a lot of Filipino champions, Manny, Nietes, Villoria and Nonito Donaire in the same year having a belt.

Well I think we all know what the level of Filipino boxers is, it's very high, and of course they want them to eliminate each other in some way, but they should be much more cautious and make them fight against other boxers, this to maintain the sporting level well stocked and take advantage of the masses of fans who are always supporting the sport, but I think that as I said before, before the sport, especially in boxing, there is the business model, if there is not good money there, it cannot be done a lot, because when we think that certain fights will not attract a lot of money, they prefer to do this type of event, of course this is what I speculate, maybe I am wrong.

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Finally, we will see who is Donaire fighting for the vacant WBC bantamweight title, it will be Alexandro Santiago.

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BoxingScene,com has confirmed that the WBC has approved a vacant bantamweight title fight between Donaire and Mexico’s Alexandro Santiago. The pairing would satisfy the terms of the two highest ranked available contenders vying for one of the four titles left behind by former undisputed champ Naoya Inoue.

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman revealed the development during a recent interview with ESPN Knockout, confirming a February 1 news break by BoxingScene.com stating that Santiago was likely next to land the title shot.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nonito-donaire-alexandro-santiago-approved-vacant-wbc-title-date-location-tba--172526

I'm just confused though, I thought the next highest rank is Nawaphon Sor. Rungvisai and Reymart Gaballo who will have their own fight as well and I thought the winner will be Donaire's opponent for the vacant belt.

But obviously, I was very wrong hehehe, suddenly Santiago got the nod and I haven't seen his name in the WBC ranking, Cheesy

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^^ I think Jack Catterall and Josh Taylor can still fight in the future if they are going to win their respective fight. And I think both has a tougher opponents, Teo Lopez might be a good test for Josh Taylor and even if he become the odds favorite, it will be close.

Prograis is a champion and so no easy fight for Jack Catterall. But I wouldn't be surprised if Regis won on a the judges scorecard against Jack here. I think Prograis has the tools to beat Catterall.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 10, 2023, 06:44:42 PM

Wow,

https://twitter.com/ESPNRingside/status/1623920701349548032

I don't think this will sit well with Jack Catterall as they have scheduled already a rematch with Josh Taylor. Unfortunately, Josh got injured again and so the fight is called off.

Now this news is circulating that Teo Lopez is not going to fight Josh Taylor next for the title.

So I think this is a bitch move from Top Rank to bypass Catterall. Jack losses the first fight against Josh Taylor but it was very close that there are some insiders who think that Jack won the fight.

And now the WBO make it official by mandating Josh Taylor to schedule a fight with Teo Lopez and Top Rank given 10 days to settle it,

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Chairman Luis Batista Salas outlined the terms of the fight in an official letter which said the WBO is "hereby ordering the commencement of negotiations for the mandatory title defence obligation in the jr. welterweight division between Josh Taylor and Teofimo Lopez, Jr".

"The camps herein are granted 10 days upon issuance of this notice to reach an agreement or purse bid proceedings shall be conducted pursuant to WBO regulations of world championship contests.

"The minimum bid for the jr. welterweight division is 150,000 US dollars. Any of the parties involved may request a purse bid ceremony at any time during the negotiation proces

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/64657867

So I guess there is no stopping this fight from happening, and I think Josh will be the slight favorite when sports bookies open their line in this fight.

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I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

I don't think that Magsayo will have that feeling of being a nightmare when he faced again Vargas if he won first against Figueroa.

First, he already expected right from the start that if he wants to pursue again to get the title he previously had, one task is to beat Vargas.

I do think that Vargas still has the advantage over Magasayo but the way Vargas fought against Foster, he was just exposed to his weaknesses that might be used by Magsayo's camp as a reference on how to deal with Vargas. But for now, let's not talk about that first as Magsayo needs to win first over Figueroa.

Magsayo can use that information to prepare well if ever he will win his upcoming fight, it's true that Vargas don't have that huge advantage, Magsayo just need to focus in improving his stamina after that he will have that chance to beat Vargas in case they meet again, I like to see these possible rematch as we will see both power and both are willing to throw solid punches and ready to recieve as well.

And with that said, let's see how he will do against Brandon Figueroa first and not overlook him as he has one of the best chins in this division and we don't know if the power of Magsayo has an effect on Brandon if he hit him right in the face.

If he won, then good for him, now he might have to look at the tape of Foster vs Vargas and see what Foster did that make him successful against Vargas. Because in their first fight, Magsayo has difficult time on catching Vargas straight.

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Quote from: goinmerry on February 13, 2023, 06:58:48 PM

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I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

I don't think that Magsayo will have that feeling of being a nightmare when he faced again Vargas if he won first against Figueroa.

First, he already expected right from the start that if he wants to pursue again to get the title he previously had, one task is to beat Vargas.

I do think that Vargas still has the advantage over Magasayo but the way Vargas fought against Foster, he was just exposed to his weaknesses that might be used by Magsayo's camp as a reference on how to deal with Vargas. But for now, let's not talk about that first as Magsayo needs to win first over Figueroa.

Magsayo can use that information to prepare well if ever he will win his upcoming fight, it's true that Vargas don't have that huge advantage, Magsayo just need to focus in improving his stamina after that he will have that chance to beat Vargas in case they meet again, I like to see these possible rematch as we will see both power and both are willing to throw solid punches and ready to recieve as well.

Although Magsayo can't really used that information since Foster have a height and reach advantage, that's a good review tape to watch for him.

If we also remember, Magsayo is not that being dominated by Vargas on their first.

The result was split decision in favor to Vargas. Just a little bit of adjustment and Magsayo might pull an effective strategy to counter Vargas.

That is the very reason why I also believe that Mark Magsayo can somehow make a difference this time and be a champion once again, although I know it won't be an easy path for him as Vargas managed to predict him last time. Hopefully, Magsayo can learn a thing or two from Vargas vs Foster fight and then level up his performance on their first encounter so that the chances will favor him this time.

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I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

I don't think that Magsayo will have that feeling of being a nightmare when he faced again Vargas if he won first against Figueroa.

First, he already expected right from the start that if he wants to pursue again to get the title he previously had, one task is to beat Vargas.

I do think that Vargas still has the advantage over Magasayo but the way Vargas fought against Foster, he was just exposed to his weaknesses that might be used by Magsayo's camp as a reference on how to deal with Vargas. But for now, let's not talk about that first as Magsayo needs to win first over Figueroa.

Magsayo can use that information to prepare well if ever he will win his upcoming fight, it's true that Vargas don't have that huge advantage, Magsayo just need to focus in improving his stamina after that he will have that chance to beat Vargas in case they meet again, I like to see these possible rematch as we will see both power and both are willing to throw solid punches and ready to recieve as well.

Although Magsayo can't really used that information since Foster have a height and reach advantage, that's a good review tape to watch for him.

If we also remember, Magsayo is not that being dominated by Vargas on their first.

The result was split decision in favor to Vargas. Just a little bit of adjustment and Magsayo might pull an effective strategy to counter Vargas.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 13, 2023, 03:17:10 PM

I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

I don't think that Magsayo will have that feeling of being a nightmare when he faced again Vargas if he won first against Figueroa.

First, he already expected right from the start that if he wants to pursue again to get the title he previously had, one task is to beat Vargas.

I do think that Vargas still has the advantage over Magasayo but the way Vargas fought against Foster, he was just exposed to his weaknesses that might be used by Magsayo's camp as a reference on how to deal with Vargas. But for now, let's not talk about that first as Magsayo needs to win first over Figueroa.

Magsayo can use that information to prepare well if ever he will win his upcoming fight, it's true that Vargas don't have that huge advantage, Magsayo just need to focus in improving his stamina after that he will have that chance to beat Vargas in case they meet again, I like to see these possible rematch as we will see both power and both are willing to throw solid punches and ready to recieve as well.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on February 13, 2023, 03:17:10 PM

I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

I don't think that Magsayo will have that feeling of being a nightmare when he faced again Vargas if he won first against Figueroa.

First, he already expected right from the start that if he wants to pursue again to get the title he previously had, one task is to beat Vargas.

I do think that Vargas still has the advantage over Magasayo but the way Vargas fought against Foster, he was just exposed to his weaknesses that might be used by Magsayo's camp as a reference on how to deal with Vargas. But for now, let's not talk about that first as Magsayo needs to win first over Figueroa.

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Ok, I had posted days ago, Top Rank is hinting a fight between Josh Taylor and Teo Lopez. Background though, it was supposedly Jack Catterall in March for Josh Taylor for a rematch, but Taylor got injured and so obviously, the fight is cancelled. That's why is surprising to hear that Top Rank is not going to that route and instead all house Taylor vs Lopez for the WBO belt.

Now for Jack Catterall, he says, if that is the plan of Bob Arum so be it, he will be looking for Prograis who has the WBC belt. Prograis is willing to do this showdown, so let's see if this fight is going to be made.

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Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

It's indeed a nightmare for Magsayo because Vargas was the one who got the belt he once possess but I believe that Magsayo will somehow make a difference in case he will have that rematch with Vargas. But before all of that, we should watch and check first if Magsayo got some improvement from last time because if he's not making any difference then the rematch might be nonsense as Magsayo will only add another defeat on his career with the same opponent.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on February 13, 2023, 08:35:18 AM

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 03:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

So Vargas will most likely defend his belt to the Magsayo-Figueroa winner. A few hours ago I rewatched some of Figueroa's fights. The Fulton-Figueroa war was so close and those 2 judges that had it 116-112 need their eyes checked. This time I had it 6-6 or 114-114 a draw. Punch stats was one-sided and favored Figueroa. I really hope Magsayo improved a lot, especially on his stamina and inside fighting which I doubt to happen in just a few months of training. Figueroa is not good defensively but his chin is so tough at least in his old division. So it is either Magsayo will catch him early or Figueroa can take Magsayo's best punches and starts to make the fight a brawl and wins a stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight.

That's why it's intriguing match up, Fulton doesn't have the power to even rock Figueroa, but Magsayo is a heavy hitter and as much as Figueroa's chin is tough, Magsayo is going to touch if he plays defense with face first and that's what Mark loves to do, trying to get your head off with just one puch.

Quote from: inthelongrun on February 13, 2023, 08:35:18 AM

I still favor Vargas winning over Magsayo or Figueroa though. I think his first defeat will make him more of a technical fighter and Figueroa and Magsayo aren't that good at their defense.

I think the Mexican Vargas has advantages over the two, Magsayo weakness is a brawler and we have seen it in the first fight. And maybe the length of Vargas will also be a big problem on this two fighter and I think at 126 lbs, Vargas punch as more power as compare to 130 lbs as we have seen that his connect doesn't have any effect of Foster. On the other hand, Foster damage his early, a cut in his right eye.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2023, 08:11:27 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 03:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

I think it's really a nightmare match-up for Magsayo if he will rematch Vargas (assuming that he will win against Figueroa). Magsayo is not a technical fighter, and Vargas weakness is a fighter that is slick like Foster.

So he will have a lot of adjustments to make in order to win against Vargas.

Both could be motivated though, Vargas trying to bounce back from a lot, and then Magsayo avenging his defeat and the belt.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2023, 08:11:27 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 03:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

So Vargas will most likely defend his belt to the Magsayo-Figueroa winner. A few hours ago I rewatched some of Figueroa's fights. The Fulton-Figueroa war was so close and those 2 judges that had it 116-112 need their eyes checked. This time I had it 6-6 or 114-114 a draw. Punch stats was one-sided and favored Figueroa. I really hope Magsayo improved a lot, especially on his stamina and inside fighting which I doubt to happen in just a few months of training. Figueroa is not good defensively but his chin is so tough at least in his old division. So it is either Magsayo will catch him early or Figueroa can take Magsayo's best punches and starts to make the fight a brawl and wins a stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight.

I still favor Vargas winning over Magsayo or Figueroa though. I think his first defeat will make him more of a technical fighter and Figueroa and Magsayo aren't that good at their defense.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 03:03:18 AM

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

Foster has a same reach like Vargas, so Vargas can't use his reach advantage like when he was fight Magsayo. Magsayo is very hard to reach Vargas since his hand is shorter, Vargas can easily duck it. I think Vargas is to late to change his stance, he always got punched in his right face, until sixth or seventh round he's realized about that.

If Magsayo will have a rematch with Vargas, it's better for him to being more aggressive and quick rather than looking to knocking out Vargas.

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Quote from: Baofeng on February 13, 2023, 03:03:18 AM

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

March 4, right?
Any winner of these two boxers will have a chance against Vargas and I think the champion will also be itching to get a win after that loss against Foster.
Foster also showed how to beat the champion and that was the first dirt on his record. I bet Magsayo and Figueroa are also having thoughts about what strategies they will use when they face him.
But for now, they need their focus to be on the opponent in front of them before they could see the light for a title chance again.

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Yes, Foster really did his homework against a brawler like Vargas and that's why they were winning rounds because Vargas was really at lost at the style that is being shown by Foster in this fight. So congrats to him, maybe he will go for a unification fight with either Shavkat Rakhimov (IBF) or Hector Luis Garcia (WBA). So will see, there is also Oscar Valdez just waiting and Robson Conceicao. But to be honest, with the way Foster shown in this fight, it's going to be very dificult for the two mentioned to beat him.

Hector Luis Garcia, I do believe Foster can match him. There's just no news yet about when he will fight again after the loss to Davis. But as a champion, I think Foster can wait so that he could unify it.

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Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Foster definitely proved to be a master in the ring. He used a combination of slick defense and an orthodox stance that seemed to confuse Vargas, and it paid off as he came out on top. I'm also excited to see how the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight plays out, and if the winner will face off against Vargas. If it's Magsayo, I'm sure he'll be eager for a rematch to prove that he's the better fighter. However, he'll need to make the right adjustments, especially after seeing how Foster defeated Vargas. It's all about adapting and making the right moves in the ring!

Right, and for those who haven't seen the fight, here are the highlights of the fight:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIiJWRqSJk

As I have said, you can see how slick the style of Foster is, typical African-American stance made famous by Floyd, the Philly shell. And it's hard to crack it, only few boxers have known how to fight against that stance.

Yes, and again, with this lost by Vargas, it's more intriguing the Magsayo vs Figueroa outcome. And both have seen what happen to Vargas and they know that he will go down to their weight class to insert him name. Nevertheless he is the current champion so both will have no choice but to fight Vargas.

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Indeed, if he mange to win his upcoming fight, automatically the winner of Magsayo and Figueroa's fight will be declared as new title holder from that said division,

It's not automatic given there's another scenario.

The winner between Mark Magsayo and Brandon Figueroa will only be elevated from interim to regular champion if Vargas decides to move up if he wins against Foster. If Vargas loses, he will need to mandatory defend his 126 titles against the winner between Magsayo and Figueroa.

But for me, I'd rather see Vargas wins this match and move forward on achieving multiple titles per division.

If I'm not mistaken, it will be Vargas' 4th title division champion if he wins against Foster.

I guess that leads to the same thing mate as @Fredomago also stated above that "if he (Vargas) manage to win his upcoming fight" that would also mean that the winner of Figueroa-Magsayo fight will be declared as the regular champion and not as Interim champion, so somehow that's quite automatic as long as Vargas will conquer Foster successfully.

Not happening, Foster won against Vargas, it went to the judges scorecard: Tim Cheatham (117-111), Alejandro Rochin (119-109) and David Sutherland (116-112).

So it was a mastery from Foster and I think this is how you beat a brawler like Vargas, combination of slick defense, orthodox stance, which might have confused Vargas in the beginning.

And Foster has outlanded Vargas in every category to win his first title.

Vargas though remain a champion, WBC featherweight and most likely he will go down again. Making the Magsayo vs Figueroa a very interesting fight because if Vargas will defend his belt, it could be either of this two.

Foster definitely proved to be a master in the ring. He used a combination of slick defense and an orthodox stance that seemed to confuse Vargas, and it paid off as he came out on top. I'm also excited to see how the Magsayo vs Figueroa fight plays out, and if the winner will face off against Vargas. If it's Magsayo, I'm sure he'll be eager for a rematch to prove that he's the better fighter. However, he'll need to make the right adjustments, especially after seeing how Foster defeated Vargas. It's all about adapting and making the right moves in the ring!

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